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1. I give the source with everything ready to Hazard and dentldir
2. Hazard or dentldir mines 1.3k blocks, and distributes the source
3. I try to mine a new genesis block, but because I'm on a netbook I won't make the launch
4. I use a genesis block not matching the PoW, advice given by someone in the thread.
5. Future blocks cannot build upon this. Can't mine.

To those saying, "get everything ready before launch".. I have!

The problem is, someone leaked the source code so I had to redo it.

Great... now what?

See you tomorrow.

wat

lol

please give a seed node

sleep now

lol

well...

damn

fail

So what you are saying is..............

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/2754976/oh-for-fuck-s-sake-o.gif

Oh for fuck sake

So who is this Hazard guy and why was he trusted?

epic <you know what>

So you're taking your ball and going home? lol

Well that's the end of that coin.

Milkshake's blocks count!

lulz

juuuusttt great.

Hdclover stfu please say in your own thread

You left out the part where I discovered you premined 1360 blocks on top of the genesis block you provided me.

Refer to page 22 of the original thread for more info.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=203647.420


That aside, you are an incompetent boob and have no business releasing a coin.

Okay, this fail tops PWC

It's not really a waste, you can still have all your miners running failovers

lol and hazard telling it was a big fail xD

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204788.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204788.0)

Next Coin Please!

Just et everything ready BEFORE launch and then announce it.
With compiled sources for Windows. Its just scam if you won't

I think this has to be the fastest FAIL of a launched alt coin.

GameCoin has been dethroned. We have a new champion.

*sigh* well, shoulda prepared a tiny bit better by renting a couple hrs of compute time on an amazon extra giant or whatever the hell, mined a valid genblock... just sayin'

guess we need new sources then. let us know when and where.

REMEMBER KIDS, NO BENEFIT TO EARLY MINING WITH THIS COIN.

check the source and find out why! (im sure someone will post)

Ill join the block chain in the morn, bedtime.

now we can have a calm and quiet proper release with the people dedicated to making this work and all the pumpdumpers can go to JScoin or hazardcoin here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204697.new#new

Look, you fucked up, but you're owning up to it. Your coin has a new idea and is important as such to determine its feasibility.

Get back in the saddle and get working version up when you can. Ignore the douchebags.

.b

Damn you are an annoying little fag! Can you even type without your flamboyant moron 'big red' letters?
Pathetic fail.

Hmm don't forget frank

On the bright side, the outcome of all of this made me lawl so hard that I almost turned inside out.

That was fun ^^

We need YAFcoin.

Yet Another Failed Coin.

employ someone to compile it for you NOT FROM THIS FORUM OR WHOM IS EVEN BOTHERED ABOUT MINING COINS trusting someone from here who wants to mine coins with the ability to do a solo premine is madness.

start again and come back when it's ready for a professional release. Even better provide your own p2pool on release on a decent server and put diff to 1 at least. Don't rush it out.

Close the damn threads, let it die. Waste of time.

Maybe a re-launch in 24 hours with pools properly set up and a Windows qt?

YOU premined it.

Wow, just wow.

Like, wow. :o

Maybe let it die. It's a failure.

I like how you're now trying to pin all those blocks on me. Hilarious, really.

Why would milkshake premine it and then give it to you so you could see.... mmmm

Who do we know who to believe?

I got an idea.

Start OVER, release WINDOWS binaries and set a new launch. 7PM tonight? (12 hour delay from official launch)

Just compile it yourself or fuck windows, get a new blockchain, ppl will mine it anyway even after this since they are greedy as fuck  ;D 8)

So, Milkshake, what's your plan?

Never worked in the first place if you ask me. If it did, then prove it by telling us how you got it to mine on the main-net or did you not actually get it to do that? If you can't explain it, then you're not much of a Dev. Me either, which is why I can say it--but changing the merkel/genesis should be pretty easy for someone who "knows how to write a coin."

Thanks for wasting my evening, at least it was "fun."

it's a scam coin anyway, just look at this

static CBigNum bnProofOfWorkLimit(~uint256(0) >> 40); // Elacoin: starting difficulty

you think chcoin is low starting diff? try something that's 2^20 lower.

Because he was an idiot and left his client running after he sent me the source to compile. He noticed it pretty fast and disconnected.

+1. Even if everything from here on out goes roses, apparently SOMEBODY premined a good bit. My vote goes towards letting this coin sink to the bottom of the pile.

well pls in 24h not 1 hour let peaple go to sleep

And you launch your coin after you premine elacoin and blame milkshake.. how said

Oh? Then it was  dentldir, the other person I gave the source code to build.

I can't even mine a genesis block under a hour, do you seriously think I can premine that many blocks?

So to sumarise:

Hazard is a guy that should not be trusted.

Github needs a minimum age requirement to stop kids posting coins and ruining the Crypto image in general?

what is the plan now? re release after alter source or let coin die?

Dude, we know you were the one that premined it. Claiming the 'hard limit' would make it impossible, idiot. 1300 blocks is EXACTLY how much it would allow you to premine.

Why would the creator of a coin give our the source code? Surely doing so would mean something like this was bound to occur?

Don't waste time on discussing this just fix your source within the next 5 minutes

Guys. The correct way to do this is to

  1: Mine the seed block.
  2: Release the source code, and let binaries be created if you can't do it yourself
  3: Get the network up
  4: THEN release the seed block.

This is not rocket science.

Protip for people doing this at home:  'noirc=1' in your [whateveryoucallyourcoin].conf makes this much easier.

You'd think that people attempting to release a coin would at least have the FAINTEST idea how this stuff works.

Yes fix it,, there is alot of people wanting to mine your elacoin...

Gogogog

To have someone who can compile the Windows binaries.

.b

Where can I join Elacoin?

ALOT ppl hundreds mabe thousands

Give Hazard a scammer tag then.

http://cinemonkey.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/lebowski_simour_1.jpg
I just woke up and what is this!@#

I dont think you understand what source code means, or any of what is going on here.

I've got blue balls now.

Yes milkshake please fix it and rerelease it in like 4 hours ?

+1

I lol'd

milshake, dude, open again the offcial thread, we wait till you get everything working, put in the fisrst post a 12 hours delay, or something

The source that Hazard posted contained the old, pre-release genesis block, the only difference in main.cpp from what I got off of github yesterday was this:
diff ../../elacoin-hazard/src/main.cpp main.cpp
887c887
<       diff = GetDifficulty2(FindBlockByHeight(nHeight-1));
---
>       GetDifficulty2(FindBlockByHeight(nHeight));


(Granted, I downloaded it about 20 pages after he posted it so I have no way of knowing if released the source with the real genesis block then changed it later)

milkshake has a brain-freeze  8)

It was fun. Now it's time to go to bed, see y'all tomorrow.

The elecoin developers can simply calm down and prepare for relaunch. For the relaunch, don't rush it and have all the important pieces ready at launch. Give yourselves time.

This coin has some good ideas in it. Don't give up.  :)

+1

seriously... a netbook? is it also running windows vista and being run with a car battery? such a fail...

+1 fix it ASAP


and for all others: compiled daemon for windows here: https://mega.co.nz/#!W4gS1D5a!e6Fg5XeGWd8YiJ0VZWi7IByEoiRmBh7yWHxc_ziO_5I

just cannot compile qt, it is saying "WARNING: d:\elacoin-master\elacoin-qt.pro:18: Unescaped backslashes are deprecated."
Anyone got an idea how i fix this?

as every alt-coin MINE AND DUMP :D

+2

edit. however a quick note is that I still couldn't compile it in ubuntu with all the dependencies.

+1 Re announce for later today or tomorrow.

Ignore the negative comments... don't let it derail you.
Pick up the pieces... announce a new launch time... and let's go!

+1

+1

TLDR: Hazard sabotaged the release by somehow being trusted to compile Win QT and releasing code early, mining 1300 blocks and blaming OP. Then he tried to use the 'fail' to start his own coin (pretty pathetic, we know).

+1 for scammer tag for Hazard

Man, it sucks what Hazard did to you and Elacoin.  I'll join your next launch if you relaunch it.

+1

+1

+0.5

git update?is ready?

I think this will be a turning point in alt-coin creations, "the straw that broke the camel's back," if you will. Hopefully people's interest will be put back into Litecoin and Bitcoin now and their respective values can rise without being diluted by scam coins and noob coins.

Elacoin shills just upset that their premining operation was exposed.

ZzZzZzZz

The OP's github updated. Looks like he's trying to get someone to help him mine the genesis block. I don't know how to get cgminer to mine it, the getwork just says waiting for blocks...

edit: error: {"code":-10,"message":"Elacoin is downloading blocks..."}

I don't believe Hazard pre-mined it. I actually believe he saw it being pre-mined. Really, he stood to profit by hanging onto his pre-mine; not posting it for all to see.

His post about Hazardcoin followed a few minutes later, probably out of frustration from seeing all these piss poor altcoin launches. I know I'm frustrated by them.

Milkshake said another person also had access to the source code. He could have been the one pre-mining.

Nope. We're just in the beginning of the week of the most new alt coins ever!!  ;D

Boy, that ended quickly  ;D

Oh hey, finally someone who gets it!

So basically Hazard pulled a Zuckerberg...
Fuck him and his coin I say!

If it was not Hazard, then it was  dentldir. I haven't said his name because I believe he was innocent until now, but Hazard is still denying it and I think it may have being the other guy I gave the source to.

I agree, why not read the 59 freaking pages to that original thread. HE called it out way ahead of time, and almost 8 hours(I think?) went by without a response and then 60 minutes before launch Milkshake replies "scammer!"

Do the thinking and reading for yourself and everything will add up

u update the git??why?

+2

So you and Hazard work together and relaunch?  That would prove both of you innocent correct?

I pulled my previous post... it's obvious there is more going on here than is being relayed.
Unfortunately.. all this talk does is hurt the rep of two forum members.

Let's stop beating each other up...

Milkshake -- fix it.
Hazard -- work on your coin.

YOU THINK?

How do you NOT know who you gave the source to! Was this some sort of Jr high school project?

The git commit message was "mine a new gensis block please, then PM me" -- so sounds like he's working on getting a proper genesis block for us.

Ok what happend happend, community is stil asking for elacoin..

So please try and fix it and relaunch it.

No point of discussing about this all day long.

Reopen the thread and relaunch when ready.

Well seen as this **** seems to state that the release of source code isn't the problem... if it isn't then why the hell can you not create a new genesis block and start fresh??? (WITH windows support)

I don't see why Hazard should get a scammer tag. Milkshake just failed as a developer. Let go, this coin is over...
http://www.drinkalot.com/pics/Deal_With_It.jpg

he is trying to fix it. follow this theard. look github someone need help mine genesis block, im already compiling new version

Yes, because it's either Hazard (who released the source code) or dentldir. They are the two people who I gave the source code to, initially I thought it was Hazard because he's the one that published the source code!

Might want to check this out - https://github.com/elacoin/elacoin/commit/a46642f5e380531517414ca688df2830944fb16a

i am mining genesis block right now, just relax and be patient :)

Hazard will never do it. Because he discovered the truth. If he did it he will never mention here.

+1

Absolutely, why would a "scammer" point out the truth, and then try to profit from something he already saw happening? He would have just 51%'ed it like he said

Ya please get both coins out today so I can mine elacoin on my linux box and hazardcoin on my windows box.   ;D

Please fix it and release it :)

Can we please unlock the original thread ?

what are default ports for elacoin ?
and can i see that in git sources ?

you misinterpreted what he said
he knows who he gave the sources to
he doesn't know who premined it

-3

God I hope this is the end of the mass alt coin influx for awhile.

I must admit i don't know who to believe about this coin failing, but after having what now 4 coins in a row that have done some very dodgy shit, i've got no idea who to trust.

I'm totally over anything to do altcoins, UNTIL someone sits down and actually maps out a plan and come up with new innovate ideas that make it worth while not only for mining but for actually commercial actives. At the moment I would never use these new coins for payment process in my business.

I like the monkey "Deal With It" and raise you this:

https://i.imgur.com/NEP1GFr.gif

this mean diff to 40?so what's the point to this start rush?

So the starting difficulty is now 1000000 ?

How does one even mine the genesis block. I complied the linux client and started it, it's hanging on "loading block index" -- does that mean it's trying to mine the genesis block?

If so it'll keep you busy forever and this is just an elaborate troll.

I am.

Diff is not 40. The higher the number, the lower the difficulty is supposed to be, see >> ?

Can you update you original thread and reopen it ?

You can see the target in debug log.

The topic will be reopened once we have a genesis block.

after genesis block do we need download again client and compile or this last vesion will do ok?

Can someone PLEASE take it upon themselves to compile Windows QT so that we can have a 'scam accusation' free launch!

Excellent news... ty Milkshake!

milkshake - delete the entire thread and start again, that thread turned into a nightmare at the end and even the pool details just lost in pages of chit chat, then make sure to launch with windows and have a p2pool ready to go on a decent server (you take 10% for dev) with details on the OP so that the other pool that is set up does not get unfair advantage. Get someone trusted from here if you need help with either of those things. Take your time and launch in 24 hours if needed?  IF you rush another launch now most people have already left the forum since it is though of as a fail. Give time for them to learn of a relaunch or this coin will be wasted.

Wait... this doesn't make sense. There's only 256 bits. Shifting right by ten million bits would result in zero. So the value of the above is zero.

On the other hand I have no idea what that variable means so feel free to ignore me if I'm talking out of my ass.

Do you understand it is impossible for me to give an ETA? It's like mining, I don't know when we'll hit the genesis block.

That is not how starting difficulty works. At all. That's not even the correct value to edit. Ah, screw it. No one listens to me anyway.

I started that HazardCoin thread as a joke but I'm seriously thinking of developing it, with all the developer incompetence going on lately.

Yes... pull the git, recompile, run client, make coins!!!
Oh, that's Linux instructions.

Windoze instructions are a little more complicated.   ::)

What about launch in 24 hours then? Surely be done by then?

Within the hour!

+1 also 12H so peaple can relax

No freaking way alot of people came out of bed for this go relax you snooze you loose :P

Aw man more git pulling?

Lol +1
It's 2:34 in Chicago right now...

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

My problem is that i need to go to work....I'll be in trouble !!!!!  >:( :( ::) :P

I wonder where that pool dude went

Deviant ?

Just doubling my chances of the OP seeing this in case it's a bug... sorry to repeat myself.

Shhhhhhh

Yea, I see he updated his site like 20 mins ago since I posted that

Can you set a time.

Say, Noon GMT?

Soon....

Well, the value of it is not zero as you can see by debug.log

Nope.  Wasn't me.  I didn't even see that you sent me the final source until 5 minutes before it was supposed to launch.  I just now got it to compile after plowing through a rather verbose boost error that was actually the same pthread_t error I PMed you about on the public git source.  However, the Windows client crashes after running for about 5 minutes.  Not ready for launch.

That being said, the linux client gets connections and doesn't download blocks.

However, the Windows client reported almost 137MH/s on the first run when I did getmininginfo.

Currently:
{
"blocks" : 5287,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 0.00167116,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"networkhashps" : 2012400,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}

Whoever is mining this thing is still going strong.

Such an alt-drama here.  :)

well let's hope milkshake changed the sentence for genesis hash after the first source distibution

well 3:40 AM here now.... should I sleep, take a dump, or get coffee?  or all of the above?

how many coinds has it generated in 5k blocks of 2 Mh?

So you're releasing the windows binaries?

Well I guess in C++ you can override the >> operator so it doesn't mean "shift right N bits" any more. But if that is still what it means then I would think there's a bug. But I don't know the source code very well. I am way too sleepy to go source diving at this hour. I'm helping with the mining of the genesis block though just in case it will speed this process up.

Not sure how the genesis block works, but is it something we can point the pool at and get it knocked out fast?  I don't mind throwing hashing power at it.

Yeah I'd much like to know how to help getting the genesis block. 3MH/s ready to go here. 6Mh/s if someone uploads a windows client, I can't build that.

is it normal that i get now (but elacoind is running for sure)



and in debug:

Also 5MH/s from me

I think it's one coin per block.

here's the windows daemon: https://mega.co.nz/#!P0hxFLjI!NtvycGW2xAZPmoXrGywnDHRoBwUmH0igQzhNw0zhEvU

just let it run if it crashes --> good! genesis block @ debug.log

Elacoin relaunched !!!!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204823.0

I've left the original leaked elacoind running and have been watching it and using it for mining testing.  The block count you're seeing above indicates it's the same block chain I'm watching.  When I first started it, blocks were ~600 or so, so it doesn't appear to be the same block chain Hazard reported.  I also have slightly short of 1/2 of the coins minted on that block chain at the moment.  Appears the mining hash rate info is being calculated incorrectly, I have about 6MH/sec pointed at it which has mint roughly half the coins, so there's probably about 12MH/sec still on that chain.

{
    "version" : 60300,
    "protocolversion" : 60001,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 2264.00000000,
    "blocks" : 5486,
    "connections" : 3,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 0.00167116,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1368517353,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
    "mininput" : 0.00010000,
    "errors" : ""
}

stuck at syncing 162 blocks

I shared my experience with Milkshake in building the Windows binary since I noticed he was stuck and I've been playing around with other alts recently.  The binary I have right now crashes hard when running as a server.  Probably because I built against the latest Bitcoin dependencies and not the ones in the original makefile.

Maybe I'm willing to help with a final release, but not inside all this drama.  I've already been called out because I tried to help and was sent source.  So far, not a great environment to jump into.

Either way, it shouldn't happen in a hurry.  It was ready for alpha today and testing by a limited experienced group.  Its clear the difficulty was too low as well.  

I guess the new chain is up now.  Orphan city with around 2MH/s with 31 connections.

need some more nodes

What did we learn from this one?

-Learn how to build the binaries, even for windows.
-Trust only yourself
-Listen to the people trying to get you to make the right decisions, starting diff, pre-annoucement days early, etc.
-Just don't make a new copycoin if there is nothing really new about it. Different timings, block rewards, amount of coins don't count as "new".

And the last...
-Learn from the previous mistakes you see around here!

+6

Games ppl play... ok, you're the king. smooth...shake whatever

server, you will refer to Master Milkshake as "Your Grace".

I don't know man, that's what you get when you send your source to a guy called "Hazard" before release. Srsly bro.

Srsly I know... too funny

+ 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

no one knows what happened.

Milkshake mighta premined to test it, that's fair, and also we're stuck without a bounty either. I've donated some of my elc's to the bounty since they're all worth nothing if no one contributes to make this coin go.

I dont mind bounty premine, just as long as its in the open and accounted for, blockchainexplorer up and running so we can see the tx for bounties etc. I aslo dont mind a few xxx coin for the OP's, just not 500,000 (depending on the value of the coin).

Milkshake was in a bit over his head, i think. not knowing how to compile the win qt binaries was kinda unfair and bad pr.

The reason the difficulty was so low at launch was because we had to start with a new genesis block. I even helped mine (but mine, with my winning humourous phrase embedded,
was not chosen as i was 8 seconds too late ;) We needed diff low to get it going fast because of the imploding fuckups. Not sure why the rush, but it'd lose the momentum of launch. WIthout it i think there'd be no coin. No one really wants to wait 5 days for a coin after megafail, it just wont happen.

Maybe hazard thinks he can do better, hopefully he does. He seems to be very opportunistic here. And he encouraged others to join the bogus 1300 block premine chain later, since, hell, why not, he might have had some premine in there too! win win win for OP and hazard. I dont have a copy of the chain to forensically analyse and say otherwise.

The orig code was downloadable at github HOURS before release. I even got a copy, but didnt think to see if nodes were already online. Just wanted to see if it compiled (see problems with compiling royalcoin and powercoin on linux in other forums, lots of Windows related shit left in the makefiles that make linux fail).

I think the biggest problems were

1) not having all trusted binaries ready to go.
2) not having a pool ready to go
3) not having the difficulty set higher to start ( a difficulty of 1 with higher rewards would be a better deal, really, than a low diff with low rewards, orphan city at launch! like all altlaunches)
4) having the elacoin-specific 'fair reward'  scaling hurdle set LOWER. diff 24 before 2 elc/block is a bit high of a bar. making it lower would make the coin less valuble but there'd be more coins and more progress earlier on.

Nonetheless, i think there's enough hashes going on that we'll hit 24 eventually - and furthermore, the actual ideas behind Elacoin for midterm use, are great. Freicoin and NVC have ideas that are great for 2-5-10 years from now, but for mining, midterm concerns are important. BTC mining is now 0.0001BTC/d for a $200 card nowadays and destined to get worse. Early miners are exponentially rewarded, which strikes as unfair to new joiners. Having a coin that increases reward for the midterm mining and use (as miners seem to be the biggest proponents of any coin), is a great idea, and I havent seen any other coin do that yet. I just wish the proportionality kicked in at 2 instead of 24.

and, we should probably close this thread now. the blockchain and hashrate is healthy, the bogus one uses a diff genblock so is entirely uncompatible, and Hazard has launched FTC2. What could be a happier ending?