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I was thinking and wonder after reading various tweets on twitter about Aug 1st . People love free Money and will do anything to get them. BTC as a whole i see it as Big players investing to drive the price higher after accumulating tons from unsuspecting noobs and forcing them to buy higher and sell lower. China used to be the FUD surrounding bitcoin but now we re way past China but need a bigger FUD to play people's emotions repeating the same Market Cycle over again. Question Every move the world is being controlled by the big Boys don't fall for it. #Wakeup #Seek Answers.

its nice i see some 1 having same ideas with me

This could be the conspiracy of the large bitcoin owners, they make an issue that can give them a profit, they just buy at the bottom price and sell again on top, always so
The point is only the price game just because the effect that as reported

Do you know on August 1st, not only bitcoin cash that will be launched but BIP148 as well?
It seems segwit2x is just a bait to activate segwit, check at https://coin.dance/blocks where BIP141 gain over 99% miners support.
So, segwit2x won't implemented but segwit will be, I just hope it could resolve bitcoin problems and become scale solution to attract more adopters will join into bitcoin community. In that case, bitcoin price should be increase significantly after segwit activated, and I think bitcoin cash is just another way to create speculation to cause panic sell, if bitcoin price fall down again. At least we know to buy bitcoin whenever discount appears.

this drama will never end,i don't know it's conspiracy or not but what i know is they'll come back.
they will do this again over and over,just like when the first time we encounter Bitcoin Core,
after that we can see Bitcoin Unlimited and right now Bitcoin Cash,
they're always said 'Bitcoin is dying and the problem that Bitcoin faced can not be solved except Hardfork'.

and that statement,i am totally agree with you.If you guys heard something from them that mean a discount will come.
buy as much as you can and in the few days everything is pay off.
Garvin did it back then in 2016ish and it works,so what is the different right now ? Nothing

Of course all this happening is never different on 2014 or so on, they have to FUD to make profits. The bitcoin drama will never end because of the greedy people. But its still healthy for bitcoin tho.

This world of crypto is controlled by big whales. They are living in Mount Olympus and are controlling how this world works. Conspiracy? Well, kind of, but it is actually manipulation. The big boys you are talking about are holding us in the neck. I was thinking the way out of this game is to think otherwise. Go against the crowd in other words.

Bitcoin cash people stated repeatedly that segwit has a complex code and very much complicated, it means they don't have the knowledge and skills required to understand it, so they figured why the hell lets simplify this shit by forking our own coin and earn a few hundred millions in the process.
That's what I call conspiracy. they are conspiring to earn more money, idiots.

Greed is the number one problem we face in the world today so many people want to acquire wealth above every other person taking advantage of the the lower class society not minding the effect on them. At the end of the day no one will say he said and took these monies to the after life. Lets all be moderate with whatever wealth we have and give thanks daily. Of what Use is greed when death is at everyone's door waiting for the right time. Got nothing else to say  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

the august 1st USAF segwit (advocated by samson mow with his hat giveaway (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C80V31iVYAE3UNm.jpg)) - the actual hard fork pretending to be soft

the segwit2x(bip91) by gavin/garzic (bloq)

the segwit november 2016-2017 (bip9/141) by blockstream

are all linked

samson mow works for both BTCC and blockstream
segwit2x by bloq

and look who they are paid by
barry silbert of DCG.co

check out the portfolio http://dcg.co/portfolio/#b

they pretend to be opposition, they pretend to be hostile, but in the end its all just drama to confuse sheep to force through segwit.

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what i found funny is from late 2015-mid 2017. core, wuille, gmax, luke Jr.. even with lots of drama, lots of paid for all inclusive vacations/table meetings. all the propaganda, all th rekt campaigns to attempt to make people hate gavin and others.. meaning 2 years and loads of money...

all it took was letting gavin and garzic make an implementation and within weeks changed the sheeps minds..
it was gavin and garzic that moved people into jumping for segwit.

just shows that gmaxwell and blockstream should just code something that actually showed more possibility of meeting community needs rather than fighting or throwing excuses why a possible baseblock change shouldnt happen

next time. gmax should just give the community what they want or atleast stop shouting empty promises that dont even have code to promise

You should see FUD & pathetic noob dumping as an opportunity to buy in. Always buy on bad news, sell on good news bro.

correct

Regarding BCC: https://www.coindesk.com/coindesk-explainer-bitcoin-cash-forking-blockchain/

"”If the Segwit2x agreement fails to implement the 2x part, which is not entirely unreasonable, and only ends up being being basically SegWit without the 2x, many miners will likely defect to Bitcoin Cash." - BCC dev

Miners feel that 2x fork will get rejected by the market, so they would rather mine big block altcoin with no Segwit (BCC), instead of big block altcoin with segwit (2x fork).


Incorrect. Segwit2x was created because miners got scared of UASF, and tried to compromise with users by merging Segwit and big blocks, but majority of users will most likely reject 2x fork. Miners have baited themselves.

This is not a conspiracy. This is the usual speculation. They are always there. If you look carefully at them you can earn with them. You will not have enough resources, and the whales do it easily. Buy their bitcoins when the price falls and soon they will have nothing to roll the market. You yourself become a whale.

We have already come across such FUDs earlier and its a never ending process.Even though chinese gamblers are out of the game,still big whales are continuing the game and they will always continue this process to grab most of the bitcoins from newbies at very low price.We already faced such an issue two months before that BU is going to come and bitcoin will lose its value.People like Roger ver and Jihan wu played an important role in spreading such FUD.Where is BU now?So whenever such issues are raised and bitcoin price falls,just buy a much bitcoins as you can since soon after such situations,bitcoin price would rise high quickly.

thanks so much for your contribution i am a newbie learning how the market and the psychology works i hope we can work together and make bitcoin greater and stop FUDDING around. #Make bitcoin great again.

It maybe a conspiracy. As end users we should be prepared for it as it is the remainder that tells us after we log in that we should still prepare for August 1. So send your coins to your wallet of choice where you control the private keys and simply wait. Do not do any transactions during stormy times like August 1.

Thanks for the Tip bro

I'd be more worried about it being a conspiracy if everyone dumps their BCC on Tuesday, but the price rises.
I think the miners and some of the Bitcoin powers that be would like to dominate bitcon more than hey already do.

If they can sweep up a lot of cheap BCC and start mining it, then the exchanges could follow the mining power and then they would have won.

Well crypto trading s not for noobs. If you buy and hold, you ll make money some time in the future, that s 100%. If you trade, get trolled into buying high and selling low, this is your problem.

Never let to be manipulated by tweets or forums posts. Always do your own due diligence, invest into project supported by coins and not just coins and you ll fine.

To be honest i must say that in one moment i had the same idea. I mean, it is not totally impossible. For everything in this world there is a chance, even the smallest one is still a chance. But also i do not think that it is an conspiracy, because it would not been so public. It would not go around news and other media. Well at least i hope it is not. :P :D

There is some truth to that, but it's much more complex. Bitcoin is a diverse ecosystem, and we have seen some level of protocol ossification; large stakeholders have developed--some who prefer more scalable solutions, and some whose business model and profit motives more so align with bigger blocks. In the end, I think a split like this can be healthy. This type of hard fork is not coercive; there is not an assertion (as was the case with XT, Classic, BU) that BCC is "Bitcoin"... so maybe the two sides of this long debate can truly divorce, to some extent. In the short term, that could absolutely be rocky for the price, at least based on network effect.

Thanks for the contribution. a lot of noobs have no idea of whats happening

We will see whether is' conspiracy or not in one day later! Kinda nervous because this means a lot to me.

I think it all means to us since we saved and work to have it, especially if those speculations actually happens then it will be regretful. But I believe in btc and it will recover if ever. Besides it will be tomorrow already we will know it.

So I just created a mycelium account on my phone. Went in my coinbase account and transferred my BTC to my mycelium address. Coinbase says it's pending. How long does it typically take to transfer BTC to mycelium? I thought it would be instant

This could be true. Who knows?
They are playing us with their big hands.
They also got the capability of doing it.
Spending a lot of money to produce havoc and panic just so they could create double the money they used for that.
It is a wise method but only works for whales. We on the lower side just needs to go with the flow.
But that is a nice speculation.

well if we can say this is conspirasy, may be wright may be wrong. hope is wright but let me say wrong, even that .. we know ethereum was ever split to be eth and etc, but at last ethereum still go on. i believe bitcoin can do more than ethereum. we know bitcoin is more powerfull than ethereum.

Some of your thought process might be true,because there was a time when China was having full control when it comes to the price of bitcoin and any negative news coming from China could have big implication ,but now things have changed and apart from the forking there is no real negative news regarding bitcoin and so i am expecting the price to rise after this and there is no conspiracy.

SInce bitcoin become the highest price of cryptocurrency many greedy people want to control the market. In fact bitcoin is decentralzed, the market reject. BTC is BTC. BTC isn't BCC, BTU or any other names. Most users will keep their bitcoin. They won't to loose their asset just by offer high price of new coin BCC and others.

Surely things like this will keep repeating somehow in the future there will be drama as well as obviously there are parties who benefit from all this, we can actually gain profit from events like this, for example we take the moment when bitcoin price down we buy as much as we Able, wait until bitcoin up to the point where the beginning of bitcoin down we just sold, because if the pattern is always seen like this continues every there will be events like this

Big whales always try to make people doubt about bitcoin price and sell right away if its decline, the cycle always going that way. But, as long as you understand how the cycle and market works, then you should be fine. Just buy whenever dip happens and wait for certain point to cash out and then buy back again. Do not fall to the bait from the whales and panic sell, the same thing for bitcoin cash, there is nothing to worry and it is just an altcoin.

Noobs will always give in to manipulation which is bad for health. if they keep looking at the candle stick and trade emotionally, they are gonna panic one way or the other