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July 28, 2017, 11:24:03 PM
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I was thinking and wonder after reading various tweets on twitter about Aug 1st . People love free Money and will do anything to get them. BTC as a whole i see it as Big players investing to drive the price higher after accumulating tons from unsuspecting noobs and forcing them to buy higher and sell lower. China used to be the FUD surrounding bitcoin but now we re way past China but need a bigger FUD to play people's emotions repeating the same Market Cycle over again. Question Every move the world is being controlled by the big Boys don't fall for it. #Wakeup #Seek Answers.
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July 28, 2017, 11:58:01 PM
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Probably is
its nice i see some 1 having same ideas with me
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July 29, 2017, 12:21:49 AM
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I was thinking and wonder after reading various tweets on twitter about Aug 1st . People love free Money and will do anything to get them. BTC as a whole i see it as Big players investing to drive the price higher after accumulating tons from unsuspecting noobs and forcing them to buy higher and sell lower. China used to be the FUD surrounding bitcoin but now we re way past China but need a bigger FUD to play people's emotions repeating the same Market Cycle over again. Question Every move the world is being controlled by the big Boys don't fall for it. #Wakeup #Seek Answers.


This could be the conspiracy of the large bitcoin owners, they make an issue that can give them a profit, they just buy at the bottom price and sell again on top, always so
The point is only the price game just because the effect that as reported
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July 29, 2017, 12:45:17 AM
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Do you know on August 1st, not only bitcoin cash that will be launched but BIP148 as well?
It seems segwit2x is just a bait to activate segwit, check at https://coin.dance/blocks where BIP141 gain over 99% miners support.
So, segwit2x won't implemented but segwit will be, I just hope it could resolve bitcoin problems and become scale solution to attract more adopters will join into bitcoin community. In that case, bitcoin price should be increase significantly after segwit activated, and I think bitcoin cash is just another way to create speculation to cause panic sell, if bitcoin price fall down again. At least we know to buy bitcoin whenever discount appears.
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July 29, 2017, 01:19:09 AM
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Do you know on August 1st, not only bitcoin cash that will be launched but BIP148 as well?
It seems segwit2x is just a bait to activate segwit, check at https://coin.dance/blocks where BIP141 gain over 99% miners support.
So, segwit2x won't implemented but segwit will be, I just hope it could resolve bitcoin problems and become scale solution to attract more adopters will join into bitcoin community. In that case, bitcoin price should be increase significantly after segwit activated, and I think bitcoin cash is just another way to create speculation to cause panic sell, if bitcoin price fall down again. At least we know to buy bitcoin whenever discount appears.

this drama will never end,i don't know it's conspiracy or not but what i know is they'll come back.
they will do this again over and over,just like when the first time we encounter Bitcoin Core,
after that we can see Bitcoin Unlimited and right now Bitcoin Cash,
they're always said 'Bitcoin is dying and the problem that Bitcoin faced can not be solved except Hardfork'.

and that statement,i am totally agree with you.If you guys heard something from them that mean a discount will come.
buy as much as you can and in the few days everything is pay off.
Garvin did it back then in 2016ish and it works,so what is the different right now ? Nothing

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July 29, 2017, 01:23:00 AM
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Of course all this happening is never different on 2014 or so on, they have to FUD to make profits. The bitcoin drama will never end because of the greedy people. But its still healthy for bitcoin tho.
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July 29, 2017, 01:39:01 AM
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I was thinking and wonder after reading various tweets on twitter about Aug 1st . People love free Money and will do anything to get them. BTC as a whole i see it as Big players investing to drive the price higher after accumulating tons from unsuspecting noobs and forcing them to buy higher and sell lower. China used to be the FUD surrounding bitcoin but now we re way past China but need a bigger FUD to play people's emotions repeating the same Market Cycle over again. Question Every move the world is being controlled by the big Boys don't fall for it. #Wakeup #Seek Answers.

This world of crypto is controlled by big whales. They are living in Mount Olympus and are controlling how this world works. Conspiracy? Well, kind of, but it is actually manipulation. The big boys you are talking about are holding us in the neck. I was thinking the way out of this game is to think otherwise. Go against the crowd in other words.

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July 29, 2017, 07:57:29 AM
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Bitcoin cash people stated repeatedly that segwit has a complex code and very much complicated, it means they don't have the knowledge and skills required to understand it, so they figured why the hell lets simplify this shit by forking our own coin and earn a few hundred millions in the process.
That's what I call conspiracy. they are conspiring to earn more money, idiots.

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July 29, 2017, 08:57:42 AM
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Bitcoin cash people stated repeatedly that segwit has a complex code and very much complicated, it means they don't have the knowledge and skills required to understand it, so they figured why the hell lets simplify this shit by forking our own coin and earn a few hundred millions in the process.
That's what I call conspiracy. they are conspiring to earn more money, idiots.
Greed is the number one problem we face in the world today so many people want to acquire wealth above every other person taking advantage of the the lower class society not minding the effect on them. At the end of the day no one will say he said and took these monies to the after life. Lets all be moderate with whatever wealth we have and give thanks daily. Of what Use is greed when death is at everyone's door waiting for the right time. Got nothing else to say  Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink
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July 29, 2017, 12:45:45 PM
Last edit: July 29, 2017, 12:58:06 PM by franky1
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the august 1st USAF segwit (advocated by samson mow with his hat giveaway) - the actual hard fork pretending to be soft

the segwit2x(bip91) by gavin/garzic (bloq)

the segwit november 2016-2017 (bip9/141) by blockstream

are all linked

samson mow works for both BTCC and blockstream
segwit2x by bloq

and look who they are paid by
barry silbert of DCG.co

check out the portfolio http://dcg.co/portfolio/#b

they pretend to be opposition, they pretend to be hostile, but in the end its all just drama to confuse sheep to force through segwit.

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what i found funny is from late 2015-mid 2017. core, wuille, gmax, luke Jr.. even with lots of drama, lots of paid for all inclusive vacations/table meetings. all the propaganda, all th rekt campaigns to attempt to make people hate gavin and others.. meaning 2 years and loads of money...

all it took was letting gavin and garzic make an implementation and within weeks changed the sheeps minds..
it was gavin and garzic that moved people into jumping for segwit.

just shows that gmaxwell and blockstream should just code something that actually showed more possibility of meeting community needs rather than fighting or throwing excuses why a possible baseblock change shouldnt happen

next time. gmax should just give the community what they want or atleast stop shouting empty promises that dont even have code to promise

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July 29, 2017, 12:49:57 PM
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Of course all this happening is never different on 2014 or so on, they have to FUD to make profits. The bitcoin drama will never end because of the greedy people. But its still healthy for bitcoin tho.

You should see FUD & pathetic noob dumping as an opportunity to buy in. Always buy on bad news, sell on good news bro.

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July 29, 2017, 01:50:32 PM
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It seems segwit2x is just a bait to activate segwit,

correct

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July 29, 2017, 02:15:19 PM
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Do you know on August 1st, not only bitcoin cash that will be launched but BIP148 as well?
It seems segwit2x is just a bait to activate segwit, check at https://coin.dance/blocks where BIP141 gain over 99% miners support.
So, segwit2x won't implemented but segwit will be, I just hope it could resolve bitcoin problems and become scale solution to attract more adopters will join into bitcoin community. In that case, bitcoin price should be increase significantly after segwit activated, and I think bitcoin cash is just another way to create speculation to cause panic sell, if bitcoin price fall down again. At least we know to buy bitcoin whenever discount appears.

Regarding BCC: https://www.coindesk.com/coindesk-explainer-bitcoin-cash-forking-blockchain/

"”If the Segwit2x agreement fails to implement the 2x part, which is not entirely unreasonable, and only ends up being being basically SegWit without the 2x, many miners will likely defect to Bitcoin Cash." - BCC dev

Miners feel that 2x fork will get rejected by the market, so they would rather mine big block altcoin with no Segwit (BCC), instead of big block altcoin with segwit (2x fork).

It seems segwit2x is just a bait to activate segwit,

correct

Incorrect. Segwit2x was created because miners got scared of UASF, and tried to compromise with users by merging Segwit and big blocks, but majority of users will most likely reject 2x fork. Miners have baited themselves.
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July 29, 2017, 02:24:25 PM
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I was thinking and wonder after reading various tweets on twitter about Aug 1st . People love free Money and will do anything to get them. BTC as a whole i see it as Big players investing to drive the price higher after accumulating tons from unsuspecting noobs and forcing them to buy higher and sell lower. China used to be the FUD surrounding bitcoin but now we re way past China but need a bigger FUD to play people's emotions repeating the same Market Cycle over again. Question Every move the world is being controlled by the big Boys don't fall for it. #Wakeup #Seek Answers.


This could be the conspiracy of the large bitcoin owners, they make an issue that can give them a profit, they just buy at the bottom price and sell again on top, always so
The point is only the price game just because the effect that as reported

This is not a conspiracy. This is the usual speculation. They are always there. If you look carefully at them you can earn with them. You will not have enough resources, and the whales do it easily. Buy their bitcoins when the price falls and soon they will have nothing to roll the market. You yourself become a whale.
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July 29, 2017, 02:25:24 PM
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Do you know on August 1st, not only bitcoin cash that will be launched but BIP148 as well?
It seems segwit2x is just a bait to activate segwit, check at https://coin.dance/blocks where BIP141 gain over 99% miners support.
So, segwit2x won't implemented but segwit will be, I just hope it could resolve bitcoin problems and become scale solution to attract more adopters will join into bitcoin community. In that case, bitcoin price should be increase significantly after segwit activated, and I think bitcoin cash is just another way to create speculation to cause panic sell, if bitcoin price fall down again. At least we know to buy bitcoin whenever discount appears.

this drama will never end,i don't know it's conspiracy or not but what i know is they'll come back.
they will do this again over and over,just like when the first time we encounter Bitcoin Core,
after that we can see Bitcoin Unlimited and right now Bitcoin Cash,
they're always said 'Bitcoin is dying and the problem that Bitcoin faced can not be solved except Hardfork'.

and that statement,i am totally agree with you.If you guys heard something from them that mean a discount will come.
buy as much as you can and in the few days everything is pay off.
Garvin did it back then in 2016ish and it works,so what is the different right now ? Nothing
We have already come across such FUDs earlier and its a never ending process.Even though chinese gamblers are out of the game,still big whales are continuing the game and they will always continue this process to grab most of the bitcoins from newbies at very low price.We already faced such an issue two months before that BU is going to come and bitcoin will lose its value.People like Roger ver and Jihan wu played an important role in spreading such FUD.Where is BU now?So whenever such issues are raised and bitcoin price falls,just buy a much bitcoins as you can since soon after such situations,bitcoin price would rise high quickly.
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July 29, 2017, 07:16:29 PM
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Do you know on August 1st, not only bitcoin cash that will be launched but BIP148 as well?
It seems segwit2x is just a bait to activate segwit, check at https://coin.dance/blocks where BIP141 gain over 99% miners support.
So, segwit2x won't implemented but segwit will be, I just hope it could resolve bitcoin problems and become scale solution to attract more adopters will join into bitcoin community. In that case, bitcoin price should be increase significantly after segwit activated, and I think bitcoin cash is just another way to create speculation to cause panic sell, if bitcoin price fall down again. At least we know to buy bitcoin whenever discount appears.

this drama will never end,i don't know it's conspiracy or not but what i know is they'll come back.
they will do this again over and over,just like when the first time we encounter Bitcoin Core,
after that we can see Bitcoin Unlimited and right now Bitcoin Cash,
they're always said 'Bitcoin is dying and the problem that Bitcoin faced can not be solved except Hardfork'.

and that statement,i am totally agree with you.If you guys heard something from them that mean a discount will come.
buy as much as you can and in the few days everything is pay off.
Garvin did it back then in 2016ish and it works,so what is the different right now ? Nothing
We have already come across such FUDs earlier and its a never ending process.Even though chinese gamblers are out of the game,still big whales are continuing the game and they will always continue this process to grab most of the bitcoins from newbies at very low price.We already faced such an issue two months before that BU is going to come and bitcoin will lose its value.People like Roger ver and Jihan wu played an important role in spreading such FUD.Where is BU now?So whenever such issues are raised and bitcoin price falls,just buy a much bitcoins as you can since soon after such situations,bitcoin price would rise high quickly.
thanks so much for your contribution i am a newbie learning how the market and the psychology works i hope we can work together and make bitcoin greater and stop FUDDING around. #Make bitcoin great again.
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July 29, 2017, 08:17:31 PM
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It maybe a conspiracy. As end users we should be prepared for it as it is the remainder that tells us after we log in that we should still prepare for August 1. So send your coins to your wallet of choice where you control the private keys and simply wait. Do not do any transactions during stormy times like August 1.

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July 29, 2017, 08:32:13 PM
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It maybe a conspiracy. As end users we should be prepared for it as it is the remainder that tells us after we log in that we should still prepare for August 1. So send your coins to your wallet of choice where you control the private keys and simply wait. Do not do any transactions during stormy times like August 1.
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July 29, 2017, 08:38:03 PM
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I'd be more worried about it being a conspiracy if everyone dumps their BCC on Tuesday, but the price rises.
I think the miners and some of the Bitcoin powers that be would like to dominate bitcon more than hey already do.

If they can sweep up a lot of cheap BCC and start mining it, then the exchanges could follow the mining power and then they would have won.
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July 29, 2017, 08:38:21 PM
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Well crypto trading s not for noobs. If you buy and hold, you ll make money some time in the future, that s 100%. If you trade, get trolled into buying high and selling low, this is your problem.

Never let to be manipulated by tweets or forums posts. Always do your own due diligence, invest into project supported by coins and not just coins and you ll fine.

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