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Hello, my question is two-fold:

1. Should I keep my pre-order of a BFL Jalapeño, that was placed early February?

2. How much would an early Feb. pre-order go for on ebay? (ballpark estimate)

Thanks in advance to anyone who replies!

Well, what I estimate from their twitter feed, is that units ordered in Feb would be shipped around and about May-June.
Units ordered today would currently ship in 2 months.

OTOH, I did not yet see any significant rise in the GH/s number.... so few -if any - people actually already received one.

Sorry I cannot help you more than this. I'm still waiting for my unit to be shipped as well...

I would sell and get what ever money back that you can. After reading this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110805.0 I would drop everything to do with them.

This is all personal choice, At the moment its like marmite.

I would advise against e-Bay though, There's a chance people will claim back if unit is received within 6 months.

My own opinion is keep it, Jally's are being made first, And it's not expensive if it pulls through.

Also BFL states on their site and twitterfeed that on a case-by-case basis they might cancel the order, you could always try that route.
FWIW, I'll keep waiting...

LOL. You are funny. If you mean May-June 2014 then you might be correct.

Based on BFLs track record of failures there's no way in hell they'll ship Feb orders in June.

Dump it while you can.

Heheh.  8)
Might be, I'm feeling rather positive about it now that they've shipped actual units to e.g. Wired:

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/05/butterfly_live/ (http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/05/butterfly_live/)

You're just hoping for stackloading cheap Jalapenos from eBay  ;D

Yeah them shipping to reviewers and popular sites is to bring in more pre-orders. Why on earth ship you product to a review place for free when you have customers who have PAID for that item, upfront!

ROFLMAO. BFL is ordering batches of 100 chips and then taking a few weeks to build them into products. Day 2 pre-orders might get theirs by the end of summer. Feb pre-orders will be lucky to have them by the end of the year.

You could look at completed listings on Ebay to see what others with the same preorder date have sold for.

But, why did you buy this in the first place, and if you did sell it what would you do with the money?  Have you changed your mind about mining?

I ordered a few jallies at end of march as Christmas presents, not even joking :p
There you have my estimate!

Ask for a refund now.

You'll eventually get one, but you'll never make enough money from it to back for itself.

Avalon batch 2 has just started shipping.

If you don't ask for a refund now or sell for what you paid for it, you will lose money.  BFL will go bankrupt once everyone else requests a refund due to the spike in difficulty expected in a few weeks, once they realize their BFL rigs will never pay for themselves.  The writing is on the wall.  You can choose to drink their kool-aid or see them for what they are:  A company that tried to deliver but failed, and chose to bear the cost of that failure on their customers.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204375.0

No one stone me for believing in this being possible....

Sounds definitely possible, source? I'm not here to promote BFL, up until now I've been grinding my teeth about the epic suckage and was finally feeling relieved to see units being shipped.  ::)

I dumped mine that I bought in April this year when I learned they had unfulfilled orders from last summer.  When/if they get rolling with full stock and shipping immediately I'll happily buy from them.

SELL SELL SELL!!!

You should check out their own website forum regarding the shipment schedule.

Jody, their sales rep, proudly stated that they were currently done with June 2012 orders, and are starting to ship July 2012 orders.
This was updated last week, so.... not sure if your "place in line" will be worth much on Ebay.

get a refund mate, or speculate, up to you. imo Don't bother with eBay- actually sold part of my pre-orders on eBay, couldn't with a clean conscience honestly let these guys who had given me their cash keep waiting, so I refunded them. Don't think it's worth the hassle.

I would say better get a refund.

Get a refund.

I just received shipping notification for my August ordered Jalapeno. They are definitely ripping through the orders now.

Wait, wait, wait. You mean you made a contract, accepted payment for a product, then refunded the payment later? You took an interest free loan, and then later canceled and refunded orders against their will?

Oh damn! Better hope Xian and his lawyers don't see this! They might write letters to the attorney general! :D

What you've just typed is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Additionally, what have I ever done to you directly to so consistently draw your ire ? Your infatuation with me, is quite honestly, a little bit perturbing.

Remember how I'm allegedly on your ignore list? Oooops! :p

And to answer your question, I'm just looking out for other users. This guy just admitted to refunding orders that had already been paid. Sounds like the sort of thing you like to get your panties in a wad and get ambulance-chasers involved with. Just giving his fair warning to be on the lookout for you and your cock-sucking attorneys...  ::)

Thank you completely avoiding my question. Yes, you are on my ignore list. Doesn't mean I don't peek in on your inanity from time-to-time, when I need material to inspire my practice of rolling my eyeballs towards the back of my head.

*smootch and toodles*

Yeah, it's hard to stay away, ain't it? You're a glutton for punishment.

I would ask for a refund, based on current production numbers you probably won't receive a unit for at least 10-12 months, if BFL doesn't go out of business before then. I'm not saying that BFL will go out of business before delivering but it's definitely not impossible.

This is pretty cool to hear, first I have read of an August pre-order.

Would you mind sharing the actual order date with us?

I also have one order from August on its way (#4814 August 8, 2012)
(not counting those from July :) )

Thanks much for the information!! Pleasantly surprised to hear they are up to at least the 8th of August on 5GH/s units!

Enjoy your hashes! (soon™)

Thanks man.
BTW, they are 7GH units :)

Woot! Rippin through them orders! Into the 3rd month in about 1 week's time. They seem to be pickin' up steam too! Dem trolls just keep gettin' more and more pissed!  ;D

Wow! This is actually equally as exciting - I don't think I've read any posts or seen what the 7 GH/s units are doing!  Any updates would be greatly appreciated!

Here, a 7 GH unit doing 8.3 GH:

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/12/bflo.jpg

Good enough ? :)

That definitely covers it! Thanks again!!

Very nice. 'grats on the order shipment! Your photo isn't working for me. I guess you have to be signed in to the BFL form to view it.

I was able to pull it out of the link directly in the quote, but yeah was acting up for me as well in the direct post for some odd reason.

What? You are a BFL shill but don't have a BFL account?  ;D

Yeah, something like that... Worst. Shill. Ever.  ;D

The order was from 4 August

Billy Madison, if I'm not mistaken. Great quote.