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Title: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: champbronc2 on May 15, 2013, 04:51:19 PM
I am in no way affiliated with mcxNOW first of all.

But honestly, vircurex has shown time and time again they aren't secure.

Anyone else think mcxNOW should become the "new vircurex"?  Should migrate over from vircurex to mcxnow.

Developer is active on the exchange and is highly confident in the backend security of his exchange. Apparently it is built to be able to support millions of users.

Not to mention MNC is rising and DVC is rising over there.

I know this looks like promotional phooey, but seriously, why WOULDN"T you use mcxnow over vircurex? How isn't mcxnow better than vircurex?

Vircurex has a shit front end and back end.


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: shadypepe on May 15, 2013, 04:53:07 PM
support on this one, vircurex' behavior is unprofessional and suspicious


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: seleme on May 15, 2013, 04:54:08 PM
And here it goes again - mcxnow spammers. How much you got to post it here?


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: champbronc2 on May 15, 2013, 04:56:34 PM
And here it goes again - mcxnow spammers. How much you got to post it here?
This is what pisses me off.

You have a bunch of stupid bars next to your username so you feel you can say "oh yeah mcxnow sucks"

Well hey, how about you substantiate your claim? WHY should vircurex be supported over mcxnow?

It isn't spam if your position has no fundamental basis.


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: seleme on May 15, 2013, 04:59:27 PM
And here it goes again - mcxnow spammers. How much you got to post it here?
This is what pisses me off.

You have a bunch of stupid bars next to your username so you feel you can say "oh yeah mcxnow sucks"

Well hey, how about you substantiate your claim? WHY should vircurex be supported over mcxnow?

It isn't spam if your position has no fundamental basis.

Leave my bars alone  ;D

Well, mcxnow spammers are pissing me off with their amateurish attempts to promote (read: spam) that site here in planned and often paid campaigns.

But I've seen one banned this morning, hopefully that's what is going to happen with all of you until you stop opening thread after thread after thread about it.

And I don't give a shit, let alone support vircurex but I don't see vircurex members spamming this forum unlike mcxnow one.


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: rlh on May 15, 2013, 05:00:33 PM
I've had a positive experience working with Vircurex (I've asked many questions, most out of curiosity and not necessity.)

I think they are good, legit people but the past couple of months have shown that they don't have the most secure site.  I like the guys, but after their recent history, I don't trade much over there.

If they can get by for a 3-4 months without being DDoSed or exploited, I may start trading their again because I like trading with currency pairs other than just BTC and (x)Coin.

I hope the best for Vircurex, but today I exclusively trade ad MCXNow.


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: champbronc2 on May 15, 2013, 05:01:29 PM
Vircurex is already back, but I still think this warrants a serious discussion of mcxNOW vs Vircurex.

So far I have seen nobody with any good reasons to hate on mcxNOW.

The only advantage vircurex has over mcxnow is volume. Which is the issue we are trying to address.

seleme, that's very bold of you. I ask you to support your position and you still dodge the question.

Why is it so completely unfathomable that mcxNOW is a good exchange? Get your head out of your ass and be a little open minded.


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: BitJohn on May 15, 2013, 05:02:04 PM
I've used MCXnow its decent


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: Jakewell on May 15, 2013, 05:02:13 PM
And here it goes again - mcxnow spammers. How much you got to post it here?
This is what pisses me off.

You have a bunch of stupid bars next to your username so you feel you can say "oh yeah mcxnow sucks"

Well hey, how about you substantiate your claim? WHY should vircurex be supported over mcxnow?

It isn't spam if your position has no fundamental basis.


Vircurex is more supported than mcxnow because they have more coins, you only trade mincoin, ltc, and diying solid coin, why dont you add all the others??

I feel lazy moving my funds to mcxnow only to trade mncoin or diying solidcoin.


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: rlh on May 15, 2013, 05:05:45 PM
And here it goes again - mcxnow spammers. How much you got to post it here?
This is what pisses me off.

You have a bunch of stupid bars next to your username so you feel you can say "oh yeah mcxnow sucks"

Well hey, how about you substantiate your claim? WHY should vircurex be supported over mcxnow?

It isn't spam if your position has no fundamental basis.

Leave my bars alone  ;D

Well, mcxnow spammers are pissing me off with their amateurish attempts to promote (read: spam) that site here in planned and often paid campaigns.

But I've seen one banned this morning, hopefully that's what is going to happen with all of you until you stop opening thread after thread after thread about it.

And I don't give a shit, let alone support vircurex but I don't see vircurex members spamming this forum unlike mcxnow one.

Wow, guys, if MCXNow promotion is getting spammy... please stop.  I am positive no one is getting paid to promote this site.  The problem is that the exchange is good.  No seriously it is good.  However, RealSolid is a bit *notorious* around these parts, so any project he creates is branded a scam.  (Do your own research, however, I personally think much of the historical accusations have been unwarranted and based on disagreements with the guy-- not scamming behavior.)

Anyway, I'm actually going to request that my fellow MCXNow fans keep it cool.  I believe in the exchange because it's fast, reliable and cheap.  If it really is a good site, and we're not a bunch of liars, I think we can and will attract new adopters by simple organic discussion.  It may not happen as fast as you want so that we can get more MNC movement, but that's ok.  Otherwise, spamming BTC Talk just makes the site appear illegit.

</my-two-cents>


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: champbronc2 on May 15, 2013, 05:05:51 PM
And here it goes again - mcxnow spammers. How much you got to post it here?
This is what pisses me off.

You have a bunch of stupid bars next to your username so you feel you can say "oh yeah mcxnow sucks"

Well hey, how about you substantiate your claim? WHY should vircurex be supported over mcxnow?

It isn't spam if your position has no fundamental basis.


Vircurex is more supported than mcxnow because they have more coins, you only trade mincoin, ltc, and diying solid coin, why dont you add all the others??

I feel lazy moving my funds to mcxnow only to trade mncoin or diying solidcoin.
Some real discussion here. Thank you. I would like to point out once again, I am unaffiliated with mcxNOW.

I agree with you though, they need to add a couple more of the major coins. They did add DVC today.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jQlm5cpv5AhlrOrggoodUukSk-wyxvMW7Ey-xv6uDgg/edit This is a list of improvements you can request to the admin of mcxNOW. It is actively checked.

What coins do you think mcxNOW should add? Some coins/having too many coins takes away credibility. You dont wanna be a slut like bter.com lol


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: BitJohn on May 15, 2013, 05:10:59 PM
Ill promote them all day if they add some RoyalCoin :)


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: Nolo on May 15, 2013, 05:11:35 PM
Add BCQ, FC2, & FRC to MCXNow and I'll move my business there.  


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: zacho56 on May 15, 2013, 05:13:15 PM
And here it goes again - mcxnow spammers. How much you got to post it here?
This is what pisses me off.

You have a bunch of stupid bars next to your username so you feel you can say "oh yeah mcxnow sucks"

Well hey, how about you substantiate your claim? WHY should vircurex be supported over mcxnow?

It isn't spam if your position has no fundamental basis.

Totally agree. Mcxnow has a very professional system. The admin might have had some bad rep in the past, but I can 1000% assure annybody that there is no bounty and this is not a scam.


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: champbronc2 on May 15, 2013, 05:14:13 PM
BQC, FC2, RYC, all those new BS coins would never be added to MCXNow if I had to guess.

I guess my question to the people who are upset about this.. How can one start a discussion organically about MCXNow? It seems like even suggesting using it, with supporting arguments is considered spam.. How else do you start a discussion?


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: Nolo on May 15, 2013, 05:16:30 PM
BQC, FC2, RYC, all those new BS coins would never be added to MCXNow if I had to guess.

I guess my question to the people who are upset about this.. How can one start a discussion organically about MCXNow? It seems like even suggesting using it, with supporting arguments is considered spam.. How else do you start a discussion?

You could make an argument for FC2 & RYC being "BS" Coins.  But if you lump BQC into that argument, you're simply too ignorant on the subject of alt cryptocurrencies to discuss the matter further.


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: lowlevel on May 15, 2013, 05:17:17 PM
And here it goes again - mcxnow spammers. How much you got to post it here?
This is what pisses me off.

You have a bunch of stupid bars next to your username so you feel you can say "oh yeah mcxnow sucks"

Well hey, how about you substantiate your claim? WHY should vircurex be supported over mcxnow?

It isn't spam if your position has no fundamental basis.

Vircurex has always responded to any issues I've had in a timely manner... I trust them despite the difficulties they have had.  My balances have been safe so far.

And, you can even get a percentage of trade fees for anyone you refer.
(If anyone wants to sign up, I'de appreicate if you used my referal link.)

https://vircurex.com/welcome/index?referral_id=217-13376


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: seleme on May 15, 2013, 05:17:50 PM
BQC, FC2, RYC, all those new BS coins would never be added to MCXNow if I had to guess.

I guess my question to the people who are upset about this.. How can one start a discussion organically about MCXNow? It seems like even suggesting using it, with supporting arguments is considered spam.. How else do you start a discussion?

Well, make this thread a discussion and leave it there. And tell the gang from there to stop opening thread after thread and put all they have in it.

And you'll be fine and it won't be considered as spam.

But when admin over there pay people to open threads here to spam his shit, than expect people to hit back.


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: champbronc2 on May 15, 2013, 05:20:03 PM
BQC, FC2, RYC, all those new BS coins would never be added to MCXNow if I had to guess.

I guess my question to the people who are upset about this.. How can one start a discussion organically about MCXNow? It seems like even suggesting using it, with supporting arguments is considered spam.. How else do you start a discussion?

You could make an argument for FC2 & RYC being "BS" Coins.  But if you lump BQC into that argument, you're simply too ignorant on the subject of alt cryptocurrencies to discuss the matter further.

I can concede to BQC. I know BQC has been around for a long ass time, but it being added to bter just.. killed it. BQC doesn't seem ready for a major exchange yet. Or ever even maybe.

I know BQC isn't on the level of the new coins coming out these days of course.


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: BitJohn on May 15, 2013, 05:24:54 PM
All of the coins have value if someone is willing to trade. So there is no harm in listing as many coins as you want. The market will correct the problem people will get burned and stop mining shit coins. Doesn't really hurt the exchanges because really they are just hooking two parties up and taking a cut. Competition is good it will all work itself out list them all.


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: Praxis on May 15, 2013, 05:26:37 PM
I haven't the faintest idea why people would prefer Vircurex to MCXNow - MCXNow is rock solid, written in C++ - reliable, responsive and never hacked (Vircu seems to be hacked every other week ...)


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: kooke on May 15, 2013, 05:29:25 PM
Just checked out this exchange, the interface looks quite good actually. Put a link of it in your sig if you want to promote it, like how I promote a certain scammer ;)


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: mr_random on May 15, 2013, 05:29:58 PM
Did you consider perhaps mcxnow isn't being targeted because there is virtually no money on the site compared to Vircurex, the second biggest alt coin exchange after btc-e.com


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: rlh on May 15, 2013, 05:33:49 PM
Just checked out this exchange, the interface looks quite good actually. Put a link of it in your sig if you want to promote it, like how I promote a certain scammer ;)


+1 This recommendation.  I'll probably end up doing that once I stop being lazy and update my sig.


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: champbronc2 on May 15, 2013, 07:09:12 PM
Just checked out this exchange, the interface looks quite good actually. Put a link of it in your sig if you want to promote it, like how I promote a certain scammer ;)


Good idea, I should have a sig anyhow haha.

Did you consider perhaps mcxnow isn't being targeted because there is virtually no money on the site compared to Vircurex, the second biggest alt coin exchange after btc-e.com


Once again, another argument that has some of its basis on the fact that the exchange isn't popular yet. Not saying this isn't a legitimate point, just that it still follows the same overall anti-mcxnow theme. Only way to find out is to give it a shot. Also there is definitely enough money on there to make a hack worthwhile. 291 BTC in buys on that website, 119761 MNC for sale. You'd still be rollin in it if you hacked them.


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: Thracky on May 15, 2013, 10:07:39 PM
And here it goes again - mcxnow spammers. How much you got to post it here?
This is what pisses me off.

You have a bunch of stupid bars next to your username so you feel you can say "oh yeah mcxnow sucks"

Well hey, how about you substantiate your claim? WHY should vircurex be supported over mcxnow?

It isn't spam if your position has no fundamental basis.

Leave my bars alone  ;D

Well, mcxnow spammers are pissing me off with their amateurish attempts to promote (read: spam) that site here in planned and often paid campaigns.

But I've seen one banned this morning, hopefully that's what is going to happen with all of you until you stop opening thread after thread after thread about it.

And I don't give a shit, let alone support vircurex but I don't see vircurex members spamming this forum unlike mcxnow one.

Wow, guys, if MCXNow promotion is getting spammy... please stop.  I am positive no one is getting paid to promote this site.  The problem is that the exchange is good.  No seriously it is good.  However, RealSolid is a bit *notorious* around these parts, so any project he creates is branded a scam.  (Do your own research, however, I personally think much of the historical accusations have been unwarranted and based on disagreements with the guy-- not scamming behavior.)

Anyway, I'm actually going to request that my fellow MCXNow fans keep it cool.  I believe in the exchange because it's fast, reliable and cheap.  If it really is a good site, and we're not a bunch of liars, I think we can and will attract new adopters by simple organic discussion.  It may not happen as fast as you want so that we can get more MNC movement, but that's ok.  Otherwise, spamming BTC Talk just makes the site appear illegit.

</my-two-cents>

Actually people were being paid to spam mincoin, by RealSolid, the owner of the exchange who obviously has a financial interest in seeing both mincoin and mcxnow succeed. I believe the price was 10 MNC per thread posted? Any further bets that SandyCohen and RealSolid are the same person?


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: seleme on May 15, 2013, 10:33:17 PM
People were paid in mincoins to promote mincoins and mcxnow here few days ago. Numbers of threads were closed by moderators as they were coming like one each minute.


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: champbronc2 on May 16, 2013, 03:22:38 AM
I didn't know about that, that's not cool.

I assure you all this thread wasn't created as some kinda bounty though, and my main argument still holds strong I believe. The exchange itself has a very strong foundation compared to BTC-e and Vircurex. Volume aside, it's a strong exchange.


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: fenican on May 16, 2013, 03:25:08 AM
mcxNow?  Seriously ?!


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: markm on May 16, 2013, 03:37:20 AM
I had the impression long ago that SolidCoin was a scammer and a thief, he ran off with 250 bitcoins for example supposedly.

An exchange built and run by that guy just doesn't seem like a good idea.

How many more bitcoins does he need to run off with before people stop throwing their bitcoins to him?

Maybe all those stories were just malicious libel though and he can be trusted with huge amounts of other people's money?

-MarkM-


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: kooke on May 16, 2013, 03:59:22 AM
I had the impression long ago that SolidCoin was a scammer and a thief, he ran off with 250 bitcoins for example supposedly.

An exchange built and run by that guy just doesn't seem like a good idea.

How many more bitcoins does he need to run off with before people stop throwing their bitcoins to him?

Maybe all those stories were just malicious libel though and he can be trusted with huge amounts of other people's money?

-MarkM-


There's no way I'll use that exchange if what you're saying is true. Need to do some digging into this realsolid guy.


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: smoothie on May 16, 2013, 04:09:46 AM
People using MCXNow need to search the username CoinHunter with RealSolid.

That will tell you a lot about the owner of the exchange. Do your homework before sending money to an anonymously owned exchange.


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: flound1129 on May 16, 2013, 04:21:41 AM
Does MCXNow have referral program?  I think that's where Vircurex gets a lot of its users.


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: Praxis on May 16, 2013, 04:30:44 AM
Don't believe the FUD in this thread.
MCXNOW is 100% legit. I traded 100 BTCs in and out of there with zero problems.
RealSolid is the only admin on any exchange I've seen who actually helps people ... today he spent like 45 min with someone who got hacked (not the exchange's fault ... guy got a virus on his windows ) ... he lost 1 BTC! 45 minute assistance for 1 btc lost ... try losing 1 btc on btc-e and contact admins there see if they care :) or Vircurex


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: cwfabc on May 16, 2013, 04:35:55 AM
I have trade on mcxnow.com,they support mnc ltc dvc sc


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: toboboto on May 16, 2013, 07:13:11 AM
mcxnow shills posting here.
mcxnow has like 30 traders after you account for multiple accounts and bots.
they aren't a target for hackers because they're way too small and podunk
they still selling solidcoin!! WTF solidcoin died 6 months ago


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: Unthinkingbit on May 16, 2013, 08:30:36 AM
I had the impression long ago that SolidCoin was a scammer and a thief, he ran off with 250 bitcoins for example supposedly.

An exchange built and run by that guy just doesn't seem like a good idea.

How many more bitcoins does he need to run off with before people stop throwing their bitcoins to him?

Maybe all those stories were just malicious libel though and he can be trusted with huge amounts of other people's money?

I think the CoinHunter account was used by at least two people. This was a while ago but as I recall, one of the them was a good man, but stopped working on solidcoin and posting because of an illness, or an illness in the family. The other person was often insulting, and posted a lot more than the original good guy, and that is how CoinHunter got his bad reputation.


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: SuperTramp on May 16, 2013, 08:56:43 AM
mcxnow shills posting here.
mcxnow has like 30 traders after you account for multiple accounts and bots.
they aren't a target for hackers because they're way too small and podunk
they still selling solidcoin!! WTF solidcoin died 6 months ago



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Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: aceking on May 16, 2013, 09:00:13 AM
 MCXNow seems decent , at least it has better software than most of similar exchanges.


Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: champbronc2 on May 16, 2013, 09:13:17 AM
Does MCXNow have referral program?  I think that's where Vircurex gets a lot of its users.
I always found that odd considering it gets you a 4.5% transaction fee... when really, a reasonable transaction fee would be like 0.2%.



Title: Re: Vircurex DOWN AGAIN. Move to MCXNow?
Post by: gyverlb on May 16, 2013, 12:11:45 PM
I was wondering why MCXNow was bragging about using C++ for everything and using XML instead of JSON for their public API.

Now that I know that RealSolid is behind MCXNow these bad choices make sense...