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Title: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: franc0 on August 08, 2017, 04:21:06 PM
Hello, i want to start this thread so investors can help to spot the differences of both projects. I'm also trying to identify these differences. I really want to invest in real estate ICO's because i think they will go big. So perhaps we can perform a "wisdom of the crowd" analysis.

http://www.real.markets/

https://atlant.io/

Even better if Devs participate here to represent their projects.

http://rexmls.com/

https://propy.com/


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: el-capitan on August 18, 2017, 04:12:56 PM
I also would love an analysis of the real estate space.
They all look identical to me.
Why would I invest in Propy over REAL?


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: DutchFinity on September 06, 2017, 06:27:01 PM
Buying real estate with ICO's? Would that not result in giant money launderings? It will attract plenty of interest for sure, but both from criminals as from governments.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: franc0 on September 06, 2017, 07:31:58 PM
I just decided to go for ATLANT. Technology is far superior from others, looking at this chart.


 https://medium.com/@atlantio/real-estate-ico-comparison-chart-ab002b497141


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: DutchFinity on September 07, 2017, 08:29:11 AM
What is superiour about their technology? You started this topic for sharing exactly just that.  :)


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: magiccarpett on September 07, 2017, 08:32:49 AM
Real estate with blockchain can't convince me right now. No proof that will be working.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: axelR on September 07, 2017, 08:35:41 AM
REX has team that is really investing in their idea , listen to the podcast
 
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ccn-podcast-stephen-king-from-rex-mls/ (https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ccn-podcast-stephen-king-from-rex-mls/)


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: DutchFinity on September 07, 2017, 04:11:49 PM
Real estate with blockchain can't convince me right now. No proof that will be working.
When you want proof first you will never be an early investor.



Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: bhoybitcoin on September 07, 2017, 04:16:35 PM
At first, I'm really decided with Atlant. It's not just promising but for me I, according to what I have red this project really has the potential. It will create a better community.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: franc0 on September 07, 2017, 05:20:27 PM
I read the whitepaper of Atlant and the technology that they are building, Jesus good technology, you guys should read it.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: valuater on September 07, 2017, 06:17:37 PM
I think the atlant is superior because the concept is good, as evidence please see smart contract atlant 0xF46ede17c0bAb20d87Cd079a2632f71433A407b9


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: anitaraymonds on September 07, 2017, 06:46:24 PM
All of them are same. do not be surprise that  all of them are being organize by same group. I did not notice much difference.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: lucashunter on September 07, 2017, 07:15:38 PM
Real estate with blockchain can't convince me right now. No proof that will be working.

No one knows what will happen, like no one in 2009 knew Bitcoin would ever sell at $4,000.  ::)


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: cryptolover1981 on September 07, 2017, 07:28:38 PM
I am not so sure if I should really reply to this post since the OP just wants to push Atlant, and I am supporting this now by bumping up the topic. However, I want to clarify that the proposed projects – while all of them are in the area of Real Estate – have different business models, and if you believe in Real Estate + Blockchain, you should probably invest in all of them.

I quickly want to provide my two cents to each of the mentioned projects:

http://www.real.markets/
[Real Estate Fund] They basically manage your money like every other Real Estate fund, with the exception that you will never get your initial money back. You buy play money (REALS) with ETH, and they promise that you'll be able to change REAL into shares (Property Participation – RPP) of a property later on – each property will have its own Property Participation Tokens. All rental profits are paid to your ETH wallet equally split according to the number of RPPs you hold on this property. In case the property is getting sold with a profit compared to the purchase price, the profits are distributed to the RPP holders, and the RPP is burned. You'll get back your original play money, which you now can invest into new properties (aka new Property Participations).

They claim in their whitepaper (https://www.real.markets/REAL_Whitepaper.pdf) to have an annual return of 20%, however, they are doing basic real estate fund management which traditionally has a annual return of between 3…10%. 10% is already achieved only by top real estate developers and investors. Considering that they have not a single real estate expert in their founding team makes the 20% return hard to believe to me.

https://atlant.io/
[Real Estate Fund] Similar concept as real.markets with the difference that you can sell the property in exchange for ETH (and not ATLANTs play money). Additionally they want to manage the renting process via the blockchain. So people can book, pay, review, and clear conflicts of the locations via their token contracts. I didn't check the code in detail, but from the whitepaper it seems to be "more advanced"; definitely more sophisticated.

Same issue: They don't have experienced real estate guys. They have investment bankers (where you'll touch real estate for sure), but no hands on developers, or real estate agents, investors, or bankers focussing purely on real estate.

Both projects have competences within their advisory team though.

http://www.rexmls.com/
[Buying / Selling Marketplace] They are purely focussing on buying and selling properties (especially connecting the people). So I can find and become the owner of a piece of land. They don't plan to own real estate themselves. The tokens can be used for premium features within the platform (e.g. better positioning of agents listings), while they can be mined if you create quality content on the platform (property reports). I am a bit concerned about the team (only 2 people!), but their skill set is actually quite good for the project (real estate startups + blockchain; blockchain engineer).

https://propy.com/
[Decentralised Title Registry] In my opinion the most ambitious project currently floating around in the PropChain world. In case you have ever tried to acquire a piece of land in most parts of the world, you probably figured out that it's even worse than a nightmare. Propy tries to solve it by standardising the whole title registration process for the buyer. You can select a property from their platform, pay the amount, and you own the property. This is the core difference to rexmis where you need to take care of the legals by yourself. They also have a well distributed skill set in their team, but they probably need it for this super-ambitious project.

I also have compiled similar information for the other PropChain projects, so if you have any questions, just write a PN to me and I am happy to help.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: namorthesu on September 07, 2017, 07:29:31 PM
I want to take part in Atlant's ICO, but unfortunately till today I don't know that there is the same project. They both are really no differents, and it's not good for the development. But the team of the Atlant's campaign looks more attractive for me and the WP is more understandable.. I need to think more.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: franc0 on September 07, 2017, 08:51:16 PM

https://atlant.io/
[Real Estate Fund] Similar concept as real.markets with the difference that you can sell the property in exchange for ETH (and not ATLANTs play money). Additionally they want to manage the renting process via the blockchain. So people can book, pay, review, and clear conflicts of the locations via their token contracts. I didn't check the code in detail, but from the whitepaper it seems to be "more advanced"; definitely more sophisticated.

Same issue: They don't have experienced real estate guys. They have investment bankers (where you'll touch real estate for sure), but no hands on developers, or real estate agents, investors, or bankers focussing purely on real estate.

Both projects have competences within their advisory team though.


Why no experienced real estate guys? I see good experienced real estate agents in the team, also developers already delivering...

https://medium.com/@atlantio/london-uk-7ccc9b6469bd

1.- They already wrote the two types of contracts (EVM and Ricardian contracts) that appears in their whitepaper, they're at github.

2.- They already have alpha release Atlant Descentralized Exchange

3.- Android Wallet

So they seem experienced for me in real estate/technical.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: WatchMaker on September 07, 2017, 10:09:38 PM

https://atlant.io/
[Real Estate Fund] Similar concept as real.markets with the difference that you can sell the property in exchange for ETH (and not ATLANTs play money). Additionally they want to manage the renting process via the blockchain. So people can book, pay, review, and clear conflicts of the locations via their token contracts. I didn't check the code in detail, but from the whitepaper it seems to be "more advanced"; definitely more sophisticated.

Same issue: They don't have experienced real estate guys. They have investment bankers (where you'll touch real estate for sure), but no hands on developers, or real estate agents, investors, or bankers focussing purely on real estate.

Both projects have competences within their advisory team though.


Why no experienced real estate guys? I see good experienced real estate agents in the team, also developers already delivering...

https://medium.com/@atlantio/london-uk-7ccc9b6469bd

1.- They already wrote the two types of contracts (EVM and Ricardian contracts) that appears in their whitepaper, they're at github.

2.- They already have alpha release Atlant Descentralized Exchange

3.- Android Wallet

So they seem experienced for me in real estate/technical.

I think ATLANT has the potential to dominate the market because it's currently setting the benchmarck to be the industry leader.
Everywhere I go on the web, I got ATLANT banner Ad promoting their ICO campaign. I think their ICO will do great and from that they'll build a foundation for better future.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: cloudethminer on September 07, 2017, 11:10:48 PM
I believe 100% in the real estate concept - I'd like the idea of investing in properties around the world in the same way I invest in companies on the stock market - but it's hard to choose the right company, and the right company may not exist yet.

I went with ATLANT (I'm not part of their bounty program, this is my first BCT post) because of the way they set up their smart contracts, the exchange which is already built with an impressive demo (that happens to value their coin at 0.0024btc.. nice touch guys!) with their DEX, and clearly a solid marketing team that can get the attention.

The ICO is going slower than I expected - 22 hours in they raised 1.5m, but with the ICO freeze it's not surprising that ICOs are weak right now. 


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: itsonlikedonkeykong on September 07, 2017, 11:21:47 PM
Propy and Real for the win.

This is a crowded and competitive space. Room for more than one winner.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: kl0ndike on September 07, 2017, 11:23:48 PM
What are your reasons for Propy and REAL?


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: cryptolover1981 on September 08, 2017, 08:42:01 AM
Why no experienced real estate guys? I see good experienced real estate agents in the team, also developers already delivering...

https://medium.com/@atlantio/london-uk-7ccc9b6469bd

1.- They already wrote the two types of contracts (EVM and Ricardian contracts) that appears in their whitepaper, they're at github.

2.- They already have alpha release Atlant Descentralized Exchange

3.- Android Wallet

So they seem experienced for me in real estate/technical.

You are clearly in their bounty program ;)

Yes, they have all the technical and financial points setup, and they have the people which know how to deal with money. However, professionell investment bankers usually touch 10m+$ projects, and are not supervising the construction of the project, hiring architects, etc. From the amount atlant.io will raise, it feels like they need to do this work by themselves and for that they are lacking competences in the team.

They don't have brokers, real estate developers, or agents in their team (they have those people in their advisory team tough), and you definitely need those people to be successful with those projects. For me it's a no-invest, but it probably turns out that I am wrong.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: bustomi on September 08, 2017, 01:35:49 PM
This three token was very potensial, people considering to pick on of them or all of them, but i will choose Atlant because It has many advantages over others.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: Lena_Storifier on September 08, 2017, 06:34:27 PM
I haven't yet dived deep into ATLANT and REAL, but here is a visual overview of Propy business model the way i see it.
Please let me know your thoughts.
https://medium.com/@StorifierCo/what-is-propy-e7ddd58d3b8b (https://medium.com/@StorifierCo/what-is-propy-e7ddd58d3b8b)


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: ruffles2016 on September 08, 2017, 06:50:36 PM
I really don't know which I could choose. Real estate usage of coins aren't pretty much realistic in my eyes. But anyways Propy and Atlant looks better for regular investor. Lot less work.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: MoreFun on September 08, 2017, 07:31:15 PM
I really don't know which I could choose. Real estate usage of coins aren't pretty much realistic in my eyes. But anyways Propy and Atlant looks better for regular investor. Lot less work.

Invest in what you ❤ LIKE  ;D


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: ask on September 08, 2017, 07:57:03 PM
I don't think that real estate business is suitable for crypto currencies.
I hope all of them will be success but i will not invest them


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: Moana on September 08, 2017, 09:56:21 PM
I also cannot distinguish them, seem all similar to me, so this thread is very welcome :)


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: kl0ndike on September 08, 2017, 10:53:55 PM
Fundraising so far is interesting:

ATLANT: $1,719,244 after 2 days
REAL: $10,195,344 after 8 days
PROPY: $14,471,846 after 24 days
REX: $3,972,718 + $2,037,518 they burned by accident

ATLANT is off to a slow start, with ICOs under fire, it seems unlikely they will match the other projects.  Just based on fundraising alone, PROPY and REAL should have the best chance of building a platform and starting portfolio of properties.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: kl0ndike on September 11, 2017, 02:56:32 PM
Update:

ATLANT: $1,916,159 (19 days left)
REAL: $10,221,315 (19 days left)
PROPY: $14,564,250 (4 days left)
REX: $3,972,718 + $2,037,518 (done)

So, over the weekend ATLANT raised 200k, Propy $100k, REAL $25k (despite BTC/ETH drops).  Propy really shows strength since it's already 27 days into the ICO and still going strong, while REAL seems to have hit peak interest.  While ATLANT raised the most funds, at only 4 days into the ICO, it does not appear possible for ATLANT to grow to the size of its competitors.  Clearly timing is working against ATLANT's future.

ATLANT - Russia
REAL - Spain
PROPY - Russia
REX - Australia / USA

Post any more info you have or corrections if you have them.



Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: franc0 on September 11, 2017, 03:24:13 PM
Update:

ATLANT: $1,916,159 (19 days left)
REAL: $10,221,315 (19 days left)
PROPY: $14,564,250 (4 days left)
REX: $3,972,718 + $2,037,518 (done)

So, over the weekend ATLANT raised 200k, Propy $100k, REAL $25k (despite BTC/ETH drops).  Propy really shows strength since it's already 27 days into the ICO and still going strong, while REAL seems to have hit peak interest.  While ATLANT raised the most funds, at only 4 days into the ICO, it does not appear possible for ATLANT to grow to the size of its competitors.  Clearly timing is working against ATLANT's future.

ATLANT - Russia
REAL - Spain
PROPY - Russia
REX - Australia / USA

Post any more info you have or corrections if you have them.



Atlant is more likely to grow in terms of development. Atlant has 5 technical developers as oppose to competitors that only has 2 MAX. And what i already mentioned in my previous posts, they already have half their job done. https://medium.com/@atlantio/london-uk-7ccc9b6469bd Money raised doesn't mean shit. Competitors doesn't have any job done so far. Also i would prefer the ICO stay low cap, much more room to grow to the upside, less room to drop.

Also check this comparison chart https://medium.com/@atlantio/real-estate-ico-comparison-chart-ab002b497141 competitors are not as good.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: BITSPANISH on September 11, 2017, 03:35:57 PM
Update:

ATLANT: $1,916,159 (19 days left)
REAL: $10,221,315 (19 days left)
PROPY: $14,564,250 (4 days left)
REX: $3,972,718 + $2,037,518 (done)

So, over the weekend ATLANT raised 200k, Propy $100k, REAL $25k (despite BTC/ETH drops).  Propy really shows strength since it's already 27 days into the ICO and still going strong, while REAL seems to have hit peak interest.  While ATLANT raised the most funds, at only 4 days into the ICO, it does not appear possible for ATLANT to grow to the size of its competitors.  Clearly timing is working against ATLANT's future.

ATLANT - Russia
REAL - Spain
PROPY - Russia
REX - Australia / USA

Post any more info you have or corrections if you have them.

Although ATLANT has raised funds lowest in your list, but I bilieve it will pass over other projects soon with the community and potential of it. REAL ICO also good project and this team strongly like ATLANT, but about the application it cannot compete to ATLANT.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: franc0 on September 11, 2017, 04:05:11 PM
Update:

ATLANT: $1,916,159 (19 days left)
REAL: $10,221,315 (19 days left)
PROPY: $14,564,250 (4 days left)
REX: $3,972,718 + $2,037,518 (done)

So, over the weekend ATLANT raised 200k, Propy $100k, REAL $25k (despite BTC/ETH drops).  Propy really shows strength since it's already 27 days into the ICO and still going strong, while REAL seems to have hit peak interest.  While ATLANT raised the most funds, at only 4 days into the ICO, it does not appear possible for ATLANT to grow to the size of its competitors.  Clearly timing is working against ATLANT's future.

ATLANT - Russia
REAL - Spain
PROPY - Russia
REX - Australia / USA

Post any more info you have or corrections if you have them.

Although ATLANT has raised funds lowest in your list, but I bilieve it will pass over other projects soon with the community and potential of it. REAL ICO also good project and this team strongly like ATLANT, but about the application it cannot compete to ATLANT.

I think they haven't read the whitepaper, I bet that if they read it they will be surprised.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: kl0ndike on September 11, 2017, 06:22:18 PM
I agree that fundraising results don't tell the whole story, however the ability to gain support from investors and to build market cap are critical skills for creating a real estate marketplace.  Personally, that ability shares importance with the technical team's ability to deliver on the platform. 

I've added SmartRE to my research.  Their ICO is about to end.

SmartRE - $152,734 (3 days left)

Going through Whitepapers in detail today.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: kl0ndike on September 13, 2017, 07:35:25 PM
Update - the market drop has dropped most USD totals.  Note that Propy didn't drop, showing it raised more funds than the market dropped.  Propy has 1 day left in their ICO. 

ATLANT: $1,874,843
REAL: $9,365,760
PROPY: $14,846,731
REX: $6,010,236
SmartRE: $154,363


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: indrakusumaindra on September 14, 2017, 01:26:39 AM
I just decided to go for ATLANT. Technology is far superior from others, looking at this chart.


 https://medium.com/@atlantio/real-estate-ico-comparison-chart-ab002b497141
yes i agree that atlant is superior from others. and at the second place is real. they have a good developer and good project too. both are great anyway. good luck on invest


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: NJB18 on September 14, 2017, 01:31:03 AM
These projects are essentially similar. They are trying to create real estate projects based on blockchain. Brilliant idea but the sad thing is that they are doing their ICOs almost together causing a very tight competition among them. I hope the supporters of such projects are huge so that their ICOs will be successful.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: kl0ndike on September 17, 2017, 01:51:21 AM
Congrats to Propy for completing their ICO.  Sadly the team hasn't been very communicative.  Their last blog post was days before the token sale ended, and their last email was at the same time.  While the ICO was well executed, getting your tokens requires some manual effort - shame they couldn't have handled it with a smart contract directly.

For details, see https://blog.propy.com/pro-tokens-withdrawal-43968b5cc02e

The process was a bit concerning as once I sent my PRO tokens to my wallet, there was no transaction confirmation to monitor so I had to cross my fingers.  Luckily they showed up eventually. 

I was much more impressed with the ATLANT ICO, which delivered my tokens to me instantly with no additional steps or third parties to go through.  Great job team!


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: V1saya on September 17, 2017, 01:59:55 AM
I don't think that real estate business is suitable for crypto currencies.
I hope all of them will be success but i will not invest them

That was also my initial assessment regarding real estate business going into blockchain through crypto tokens. But the business is potentially big, very big in fact. I think the team behind these projects know pretty well about the situation so they must have something in mind for this. I hope they are successful still.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: the rise on September 17, 2017, 02:28:16 AM
Such a concept can't be judged in the short term, from many concepts of housing system, I am interested to highlight the prophy(PRO) because ico has ended and just waiting for direct distribution in the market, I think their movement depends how fast they move in business development, price speculation. If the project can give a reactive business encouragement then their stock can go up very quickly.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: HippiePyro on September 17, 2017, 03:10:23 AM
I'll probably invest a little in each just to be safe. Real estate is a huge market


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: herromerro on September 17, 2017, 09:20:00 AM
I'll probably invest a little in each just to be safe. Real estate is a huge market

I also invested in REX and REAL.
Actually REAL is making me excited. It can be whole new experience for lots of crypto investors.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: ineedlicense on September 17, 2017, 10:46:43 AM
Too much competition. How to call winners from this market? Looks so hard. But imo Atlant and REAL are front runners at this point.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: josephinerosdy on September 17, 2017, 12:08:28 PM
i follow REAL from the beginning and interested.
and join their telegram made me more excited.
so i choose REAL than ATLANT


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: CuriousGeorge on September 17, 2017, 12:21:43 PM
Too much competition. How to call winners from this market? Looks so hard. But imo Atlant and REAL are front runners at this point.
I can say no to the atlant project and that was a bit scammy in my opinion regarding the bounty amount that will have given to the bounty hunters after the ico will have ended, but other like propy makes me interested with it, I've some people already said that they have used the alpha of the propy itself.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: makishart on September 17, 2017, 12:29:26 PM
Too much competition. How to call winners from this market? Looks so hard. But imo Atlant and REAL are front runners at this point.
Determining the winner simply by how much funds they could raise and how's the project could bring profit to its investors, when it's still the begining of fundraising, it's hard to know which one have the chance to win this competition, but at the end. we'll see the outcome.
but i bet, it's REAL that will lead the competition, just my opinion tho


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: franc0 on September 17, 2017, 08:28:02 PM
I was going to invest in REAL but i read the whitepaper and is true what the ATLANT team tells about them in this article https://medium.com/@atlantio/real-estate-ico-comparison-chart-ab002b497141 ,that they just buying Real Estate with ICO funds. I would rather invest in REX than REAL if i were not to invest in ATLANT.

What i like about ATLANT is that is targeting both markets p2p rentals and tokenization of properties, none of the competitors targets both p2p and tokenization of properties. Also it will be completely DAO-like Platform, token holders will vote to change something and it will be completely decentralized, users will be incentivized to run ATLANT nodes, Descentralized Exchange... i don't think none of the real estate projects has all that. The majority of the real estate projects are not even descentralized but REX and PROOF..


Also Investopedia released today this :D this http://www.investopedia.com/news/how-blockchain-technology-changing-real-estate/


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: cloudethminer on September 23, 2017, 07:41:56 PM
ATLANT released a wallet for ETH and ATL this week.  While the news is nice, I found it strange that they'd release a wallet instead of focusing on the property exchange for the PCOs they plan to support.  I get it that the exchange will need to have wallet functionality, so the wallet may grow to become an exchange, but it's an odd first step.  Pretty decent for an ICO that is still in round 2 with 3 days left in the ICO.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.frostchein.atlant

Meanwhile, not much from Propy hasn't released anything since the ICO ended.  They are on EtherDelta, Liqui and HitBTC.  The coin is down quite a bit since it listed.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/propy/

REAL doesn't have much news with 6 days left in the ICO.  They are on phase 2, so waiting to see what comes next.

I don't follow REX or SMARTRe, so can't say anything about those.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: carrie_white on September 24, 2017, 01:51:52 AM
REAL and ATLANT, both are very good projects, but for altants it's been touching softcap, but for hardcap it is still very far, and very high, but with ico time is still quite long, it seems there will be enough time to collect it


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: inthelongrun on September 24, 2017, 02:01:42 AM
I have my thoughts that all these four projects are dreaming really big in the world of blockchain, dragging into it the real estate business. These must be an ambitious projects and a giant breakthrough in case these will be successful. Atlant, for example, has already gathered almost $4 million and there is still more than a month left of the ICO.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: Pasutinmeur on September 24, 2017, 02:05:56 AM
REAL and ATLANT, both are very good projects, but for altants it's been touching softcap, but for hardcap it is still very far, and very high, but with ico time is still quite long, it seems there will be enough time to collect it
Don't just caused by you are following the atlant project and you must say a good project. The project has big target but this time just raise a little fund comparing with the hardcap and that should be a considered as a fail. Too many supply that will be distributed to the bounty participant. And that was more than a half of the fund. Atlant dump will come.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: bubblepop on September 24, 2017, 02:51:17 AM
My vote goes to Propy. Everythings laid out to be revolutionary, just a matter of the team reaching their targets on time.
Glad its trading below ICO price.
REX is my second bet.


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: whiskeydelta on October 11, 2017, 05:24:35 PM
I like Atlant - because of the P2P rental market.  It think this will be the easiest to execute. 

I also like the idea of having a more liquid real estate market, as I like liquid  investments and am not a hard property type person - don't see being a true landlord in my future.

Propy is interesting -- and much needed not just for international transactions but for all transactions because the real estate market is completely fraudulent with the banks holding the real title to your property regardless of whether you pay off your mortgage. 

If investing purely in Real Estate Funds - then it is absolutely necessary for their to be real estate experts in many many locales in order for these applications like Atlant and REAL to go wide spread.  Having a tiny portfolio doesn't warrant the cryptos.  Having a huge portfolio of properties similar to funds that are appearing in Iconomi and Blackmoon capital for cryptos, stock, and fiat investments would great.  I can imagine a day when all properties are on the blockchain for record keeping, transactions, investing.  I do think it is a long upward road though.

Again I think having a P2P market for rentals is the necessary first step because that market already exists off the blockchain.  In order for that to work they will have to compete on ease of use and price to move people off the larger players like AirBNB.

I am however not investor yet in any of these.  I will continue to do my research and decide if any of them warrant investment now or if later would be a better time.  I suspect that one is likely to gain more ROI in other cryptos during the beginning years and that these endeavors will pick up much later, if ever. 

The reality is that buying and developing properties for crowdfunding is a very capital intensive process.  I would be curious if any of these organizations will be securing any part of the property purchase with bank loans or if it will all be equity shares.   These companies need lots of money and lots of local real estate experts in order to capture quality real estate around the world.  Most of these companies will start within very specific locales.

I am also of the mind that the real estate market is going to go down.  Too much private and public debt in the market.  Yes their are pockets where it is going up -- but I think those properties are overvalued -- San Francisco, Toronto, New York, London, etc.   I would prefer to invest in properties with known rental incomes - either business building or residential communities and to simply own a share in that building/set of buildings and receive a return.  I don't wish to speculate on rising prices in the real estate market, especially on properties in locales which I can't see or don't intend to visit.  Choosing a property in one zip code vs another can make all the difference in the value of a property and they can be right next to each other. 


Title: Re: REAL vs ATLANT and PROPY VS REX - Real estate ICO competition.
Post by: easynote on October 12, 2017, 08:00:37 PM
I'll probably invest a little in each just to be safe. Real estate is a huge market

I also invested in REX and REAL.
Actually REAL is making me excited. It can be whole new experience for lots of crypto investors.
I am not into any of them. The competition does seem like it's somewhat stiff. New blockchains and coins aren't really what the people want.