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Announcing the PoC Consortium. Stage 1: BURST

On August, 10th 2014 a NXT-based cryptocurrency by the name BURST was
introduced to the general public by the original developer who is
known under the alias "Burstcoin". His or their real identity is still
unknown today. The coin was launched without an ICO or premine.

        The genesis block was published on August, 11th 2014.

So today, three years ago, BURST started as a very promising coin
which (looking at the technical aspect) had everything you could
desire from a cryptocurrency at that time:

 * NXT basis: Not a simple Bitcoin clone, but a completely new
   implementation including market, escrow, assets, crowdfunding and
   smart contracts. Often referred to as Bitcoin 2.0

 * PoC (Proof-of-Capacity): Contrary to the oligarchic Proof-of-Stake
   (PoS) of NXT, BURST offers a unique way of ensuring the
   cryptographic consistency of the transactions in its blockchain by
   allocating a non-trivial amount of disk space. This approach makes
   BURST much more energy efficient than Proof-of-Work (PoW) of many
   other cryptocurrencies.

This made BURST at the time of its introduction one of the technically
most advanced coins.

Three years have passed since then. One year after announcing and
presenting BURST, the anonymous creator left the stage, so further
development depended on whomever might pick up the baton.

Unfortunately, BURST evolution since then was tepid at best. In
retrospect and when evaluating where BURST stands today, it has been
given neither the development capacity nor the competence that is
necessary for such a promising coin. Even worse, what BURST was
lacking on the development front seems to have been overcompensated on
the drama front.

We are not interested in drama. We do not care who started it and why.
Most certainly we will not participate. We are forward-looking and
everyone competent, rational and willing to cooperate with us is
welcome and will be met with a benevolent attitude.  Other than that,
there is no one in the BURST community or elsewhere who could threaten
or fatally annoy us or "make us go away" by any other means.
Nuff said.

THEREFORE

We - the PoC Consortium - are a group of highly skilled and well
funded individuals. Investors, executives, entrepreneurs, developers,
admins, designers and college students. We came to lead BURST to its
rightful place among other cryptocurrencies and we believe that place
is nowhere else than upwards of where BURST is today and upwards of
where it will be tomorrow.

We believe, BURST should - for starters - be able to reach the same
significance as NXT has today. Given the BURST heritage and its unique
PoC atribute makes this a realistic assumption.

We are aware of many other existing cryptocurrencies including
intimate details about their architecture, community and thus
perspective.  We are equally aware of the hitherto wretched state of
the BURST cryptocurrency. In its first 3 years of existence BURST has
fallen behind NXT in many aspects, mostly because of said lack of
development. We will change this and we will change it fast, because
even NXT has not the development capacities we are bringing to the
table right now.

Neither do we expect nor require payment from the BURST community for
our development efforts. We will not set up or take from a "Developer
Fund" as has been discussed in the community here and there. We are
highly-paid professionals and we are not here for peanuts.

Instead, we have bought BURST. Millions of them and we will continue
doing so. We may cash out small packages when the BURST price will hit
the corridor between 1000 and 2500 Satoshi/Burst in the following
months, but we are in it for the long game. We have to tell you this,
because if we didn't, some of our engagement could be legally
construed as insider trading. If you think this is just some sort of
pump&dump scheme, you are terribly, terribly mistaken.

We have done already some small development efforts to get BURST back
on track. Following the spam attack on BURST, we provided an
"Enterprise" BURST wallet 1.3.0cg, which was based on the official
1.2.9, but has a mariaDB/MySQL backend instead of the flimsy H2
database used in BURST so far.
You can get it here: https://github.com/ac0v/burstcoin (https://github.com/ac0v/burstcoin)
We continue with our wallet development efforts forcefully.

We are hosting a BURST mining pool at https://burst.cryptoguru.org/ (https://burst.cryptoguru.org/)
with 0% fee, superior performance and availability. We operate miners
for experimental purposes with a small capacity of 200TB.

We are hosting a geographically distributed cluster of wallets on
various machines, all of which have superior connectivity. Our main
public wallet (running 1.3.2cg as of now) is
https://wallet.burst.cryptoguru.org:8125/index.html (https://wallet.burst.cryptoguru.org:8125/index.html) This is BTW the
"well known peer" 92.43.104.34 that single-handedly (at 14% capacity
usage during the peak) took a 1TB/day network load during the spam
attacks. Our provided wallet capacities are meanwhile a multiple of
that. These wallets are also constantly connected to 200-300 peers via
GBit uplink. We thus do believe to have set up a very resilient
"Core-Backbone" of the BURST network infrastructure.

Together with the BURST community we are happy to see that these
efforts and the resulting stabilization allowed players like Poloniex
to resume BURST trading in full again.

Furthermore, we are proud to present our own BURST block explorer
https://explore.burst.cryptoguru.org/ (https://explore.burst.cryptoguru.org/) and you are welcome to give
it a try. It has been written from scratch and although still WIP,
we believe you will appreciate it's performance and availability.

We are especially pleased to announce the in-development status of
our mobile wallet for BURST (Android and iOS) which we believe will
enable and catalyze new oportunities for the BURST cryptocurrency.
Our benchmark is the BTC wallet Mycelium https://wallet.mycelium.com/ (https://wallet.mycelium.com/)

All this is only the tip of the iceberg what's happening right
now. More BURST-related projects are in the pipeline and to be
revealed soon. Listing all these projects would burst (pun intended)
the scope of this writing, so we will communicate the details of the
projects as we go.

Now it is quite important that you do understand this announcement as
what it is and what it is not. It's certainly not some sort of
one-time event or snapshot. We are announcing the beginning of a
process. Do we believe in the future of this PoC cryptocurrency? No!
We do not need to believe, because we know. We do not have to hope
and to wait for the future to happen. Yes, we are confident: we will
make its future.


For the PoC Consortium
    rico666
    ac0v
    bold
    cgebe
    Antigo
    mrmmm
    valy
    and others

Reserved ann

reserved FAQ

Interesting! Do you have a roadmap for future development or plans?

I can translate to Italian for free (coins)

I need more information. It doesn't look so good

Internal. We may choose to set up an official roadmap if our actions/announcements start to have economic effect.
Until then, just be aware "we're here and we're doing". Lean back and enjoy the things to come.


Feel free, but please send the translation for review to bots@cryptoguru.org


You may want to be more specific.

Are you in any way related to Burst Nation or Adam Guerbuez?

What was your previous involvement in BURST (ie what was your name in the community).  I assume this isn't the first time you've been involved with BURST?

Not that I am aware of. Our PoC Consortium announcement on BN was promptly deleted

https://i.imgur.com/r7EWoXb.png

The account was banned. I'm pretty sure if you look several hundred generations back, Adam and someone from our team may have common ancestors.


We are involved in BURST since about a month or so.

Posting to keep updated.  As someone who also believes in Burst and am putting heavy investment into it (See my miner on http://pool.burstcoin.party:8081/), I am eagerly following developments.

Interesting. Reserved for evening research.

What is your name (or names) on the team forums?

Sounds nice. A lot of bold statements. But the community you are gathering here (me, potentially, and all others reading the post) need some milestones to be be oriented at. No need to be "those arrogant we know we will disrupt ALL" developers.

Simplicity is the key. Would be nice to have at least rough understanding of when when and how you will be doing, and at which point you might need to test scalability with users' help

reserved on weekend

The project sounds amazing, although you didn't held an ICO, so I just got a little curious, how will you promote your coins? Did you have any plan or any kind of easy way to make this coin get known by peoples?

How Amazing can be an Announcement that You have not bother to read it? You speak like Trump now.
This is a 3 Years old Coin dude. It's name is Burstcoin. Ticker: "BURST"

Good to see that there are finally competent people with burst. This MTM guy from burstnation is/was annoying af. Every single YouTube Video made by him feels like some sort of teleshopping/scam show.

In case you need help with german translation let me know.

Okay i will just see this a good project, i need to see how this development is next on this thread, at least it can be much cooler than others

Would you mind sharing photos of your Burst farm?  200 TB isn't that small of a farm and would still take some work to setup.

I totally agree.

What does "PoC Consortium Stage 1: Burst" mean? Is Stage 2 another Coin?

I agree that's a lot of bold statements, but it sounds like you believe pretty strongly in what you write.

I would love to see strong and professional leadership behind burst.

Running a 272TB burst miner myself and do hope burst will climb out of the 200 satoshi hole and less than $14 million market cap it is currently stuck in.

Hi Dev i like to know more about this Project just interested 

When will this development roadmap be available? Because as informed is only internal?

Being banned from Burst Nation is a good recommendation for me ;)

It would be good to be transparent about your planned milestones. Not that you have to declare strict deadlines - just put out the vision of what you want to accomplish.
This is open source after all so saying "feature x will be released when its ready" is perfectly acceptable :)

Sooner or later we will publish something like a roadmap and we will probably start in a form without strict deadlines and may move to deadline estimates later.

The reason why we are reluctant to do it right now is simply because the team agrees to undercommit and to overdeliver. We are - as probably most of you too - fed up with "plans", "intentions" and announcements that may turn up to be vaporware.

So for the time being, we would like to limit our announcements for the situation when we have something that is ready/available at the time of the announcement.

We believe, in time, this will be the best image our group can build, because always when you see a PoC announcement, you know there is "one more thing".

For those who are impatient, or would like to monitor the development process more closely, we set up a Twitter account where we intend to publish the smaller things like "New feature here and there".

https://twitter.com/PoC_Consortium

ATM the price keeps still dropping. It's at 173 satoshis ATM. But the bitcoin price keeps rising, so probably the $ value didn't drop that much tho..

The market is completely oblivious and not correlating to fundamentals of the coin in any way.
If anything we can see a delay reaction, so what you observe now seems to be the backlash of the spam attack a month ago and e.g. Polo opening their trading again recently: Many miners shut down their operation and sell off. A classic pork cycle.

Most people (and we do not blame them) are not at the "pulse" of this coin. So today we are in the absurd situation of the coin being technically in a 10 times better shape than it was a month ago, yet the price is less than 30% than it was a month ago.

Leads us to believe it will take another month until market realizes the new surge behind this coin.
And finally we still believe the prognosis holds true that BURST will see 1000 Sat in 2017.

saving to look later!

burst up to moon? :o

well ,,  i hope yr Talk is real Man and there is a good respectable Dev team behind Burst now ...   


i hope its not only a pump and dump game .

what is new coin ?
how much total suply POC
how much total premine

this thread iam only find about NXT and burst, withou spefication youre coin and youre project

is this a new coin or old coin ?

This coin is old like Methuselah.

Are you teaming up with https://forums.burst-team.us/

Their site is down and redirected to http://www.burst-team.us/

and links they list there point to your cryptoguru.org

so I'm hoping you're teaming up with Haitch as I've always trusted him and the majority on forums.burst-team.us

Whats wrong with deadline? Its getting worst day by day; I have added almost 24TB in last 5 days but still deadline getting worst.

Any idea?

Not entirely sure what you mean by deadline getting worst?  The deadline is pretty much random, sometimes you will submit a better one for a given block and the next block could be a worse one.

my deadline is always in days whereas couple of weeks ago it was better.

Thanks.

As a long time Burst Supporter / Miner / Investor I would like to say welcome.



Sounds good, let's hope that you can cope with /fend off / ignore the crap that will no doubt sooner or later come your way.



Have tried the Online version and it seems fast and solid, will give the local version a try. I assume it uses the same DB file and format? Might be good if you could provide a reliable download of an up to date DB.



Not personally a lover of the uray style Pool, in particular the approach to Historic shares. Do you have any plans to move to a ninja style or develop your own Pool Software?



Seems to be working well at the moment, have you seen and DDos attacks and how confident are you in your defences?



Great to have an explorer back, would be nice if you could add the functionality for an XLC downloads of the data.




Keep up the good work, looking forward to much more from the Team.


Rich

Er...if that's the case then why don't you toss some into your pool so you can pay your miners?

Aug 20 14:57:57 pool npm[11801]: pool does not have enough balance for payments - currentFund: -10000000054.51199 - totalBlockReward: 1581
Aug 20 14:57:57 pool npm[11801]: Pool Balance = 1.40501037 BURST

I'm happy with This. If you need any help to translate this post in Portuguese-Br, Just let me know.

Not sure where you're seeing that but if you take a look at the block explorer on that date the pool's address was paying regularly.

Could it be???

Have my many calls for adults to step in and make BURST into the coin it was meant to be been answered?

A better wallet???? Another thing I asked for.

I am following you on Twitter.

As you can see, the community is a little bruised and tentative in their approval.

I am sitting here beaming with delight. I knew this coin couldn't be ignored.

Here's wishing you all the success.

<edit>
Hi,

just read read your posting on the getburst forum not to run the pool for public.
https://forums.getburst.net/t/pocc-pool-public-use-discouragement/385
Thanks for the information, no need to reply here then regarding my question.
</edit>

Hi rico666,
I just started mining at your pool http://burst.cryptoguru.org
Could you explain me the pool's log file a little bit?
I have no knowledge in it. By just reading it sounds like the stored payment drops with time without payments?


Just wondering. Here is the log. Thanks for explanation.

Hi,

I forged the block by this time payout was only 202 burst very low compare to last 2 blocks; 403 and 707.

Any specific reason or logic?

And this is nothing to do pool if I am correct.

Thanks.

All I can say is "Welcome on Board". It's true that Burst is undervalued coin at the moment with all the drama that happened around a month back and pools closing down and people losing their trust on this coin. Everytime someone tried to do something good for this coin, someone from somewhere would come and start threatening to wipe out its existence. I am pretty sure that you and your team will hear this sooner or later, however, I just hope that you guys will continue to develop this coin and help the entire Burst community.

I wish you guys all the very best and I shall continue to watch this thread for further updates.

**Long Live Burst**

do you mine burstcoin? or just marketing??

The price can't get much worse, so the risk is low I guess.
Good to hear you're planning no ICO - and will profit through good development. The explorer is a promising start.

So not much else to say than: Welcome and good luck! Would be great to see Burst to shine again.

means must need extensive knowledge so that later can come to give a positive impact for the progress of this project later.hould be able to prove the expertise that we have can be applied as well as good in it.

The explorer only shows 2 digits after comma for the transactions. is there a way to see the complete amount? or another block explorer that shows all? because in the wallet it doesn't show all transactions.

when you say stage 1-Burst, then what will be in future stages as I do not see any prominent POC based coins?

Do you see any other PoC based coins?

Yes, i think i have see one and i know largest burst miner is also trying to make one

Do you have any names or links?

http://forum.xeniumcoin.com/index.php    started, but looked like it was abandoned after a week or 2.  now its just flooded with pharmaceutical spam

Not much news here. Any updates? When will stage 2 come into effect?

Are projections of reaching over 1000 sitoshi's still the plan considering how much bitcoin has gone up?

Or they just realized it was a lost cause

It doesn't help when all I do is ask for clarification of how to get the Burst wallet service working in Windows and then the lead developer bans me from their Discord for simply asking tecnical configuration questions, then follows me back into the old Burst Discord for yet another volley of abuse, telling me that I can't expect to be "spoon fed". I was patronised directly by the OP suggesting in the Discord that they should consider tolerating "users of that level" , essentially offering that I was somehow not an equal but rather, inferior. All I was asking for was info on hard pathing Java after the CMD file for the wallet service failed to find Java even before loading any config. Everyone else was helpful but the OP here decided to beat his chest and swing his ban hammer in a fit of intolerance and impatience. Maybe you're totally right UnZane.  We will see I suppose.

Development is quite active (last commits were only 3 days ago). Already 6 versions have been published since 1.3.0. You can see the activity at their  Burst Github repo (https://github.com/PoC-Consortium/burstcoin/).

The devs are relatively quiet here, that's true, although in the German thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2080042) there is more activity ... Maybe they are speculating on even lower prices to buy more (Good idea, I think) ;D

I also don't know what the "stages" mean. Wild speculation: Maybe they plan a transition to the new PoC algorithm the Bittorrent creator Bram Cohen has proposed (https://www.coindesk.com/proof-of-space-bittorrent-creator-publishes-eco-friendly-mining-paper/). ;) In this case, we maybe can talk about a serious Bitcoin competitor ...

Rico666, when should the Burst community expect PoCC stage 2? I know some Burst supporters who are very excited to know more future developments on the platform.

I am also happy to see that Burst mining is at an all time high as shown on this chart (https://explore.burst.cryptoguru.org/chart/supply/network_size). I hope the price will reflect the true value of Burst soon.

As true believer of burst, our miner still works to support the burst networks, its 50 pcs 8TB hdd, please keep your good work :)

our miner at the moment https://i.imgur.com/Djyx1AF.jpg

Let me pick up two worthless utterances, just to show you how worthless they are:


...and


both uttered November, 2nd.

On November the 2nd, I probably made my largest chunk of commitments to the Burst Core Wallet - henceforth called BRS (Burst Reference Software)

https://github.com/PoC-Consortium/burstcoin/commits/master

The wallet is now much more cleaned up, has left its Nxt heritage behind, is getting a nice, modern emancipated coin, the code base being pulled towards Google JAVA Styleguide...

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The problem on bitcointalk.org - and else (e.g. Reddit) - is that basically everybody who is able to stroke the keyboard can offload his shit.

I hope at least a few sane souls here can understand, why core devs are leaving these "pastures" and start to form "internal, private channels" where they are among themselves.

And let me pick up one more worthless utterance - for the sake of completeness:


Rapturoso - seems an older member of the community - came along one day with approximately the following attitude:


"I just came back to Burst after 2-3 months absence. I want to update my wallet. What shall I take? What is PoCC? I have no idea, but they have to prove themself to me...."

[After some time Rapturoso is convinced to use the PoCC wallet, and the rant continues...]

"I want this (wallet), I don't want that (Launcher). I have no idea about the config file. Help me. Help me! You must! You must do so promptly, the way I want and also I am right and you are wrong."

By the end of the day, 3 core devs were dancing around him wasting their time on this ignorant, but certainly self-confident asshole.
I put an end to it and banned him. I do not regret it. Also explained to the other devs that this was a protective measure against this time-vampire.
They thanked me.

@Rapturoso: You have been ass-wiped enough and have constantly shown a both impressive and formidable mix of ignorance and demand. You cannot be surprised that it ended as it ended.
You are of course free to whine about it as much as you like.

2017

Preparations: https://twitter.com/Burstcoin_dev/status/933497493341470720

Hello one question, if devs of poc wallet are here....

Started to use your wallet a week ago, but i have this problem, every day that i turn my pc on and start the wallet (tested in a few days, and now i'm sure it is it), my nvidia video drivers (updated to the last level) crash and windows system say it had restored them.

Using the Poc last Version 1.3.6cg with mariaDB on a windows 7 pro machine.

Any clue why the launcher of the wallet crashes the GPU driver ?

Cheers

No, and 1st time I hear it. Then again, OpenCL (GPU acceleration) still considered experimental, so if you are sure you are using newest drivers or the problem not being the GPU hardware itself (you don't mention which one you use), just turn GPU support off.

There is a #wallet-support Discord channel here: https://discord.gg/5MEKvRr

You are more likely to find help there - also in a more interactive way.

Ok, found the setting to enable GPU, and disabled, i will see on next restart tomorrow. thank for the moment, i will update on the situation.

Cheers

Disabling support for GPU solved the problem, thanks @rico666 to point me in the right direction.

Cheers

The tweet about a BFA, assuming it stands for Big Fucking Announcement, from the PoCC's Twitter account was removed a day after. Why? Did the PoCC fear that it would end in another disappointment or was the plan behind it canceled or something? Rico666, care to reply?

Great Job POCc keep up the good work!
One for the Coin
One for the Devs
and...
One for All.

https://twitter.com/PoC_Consortium/status/935040430273593346

?

We have not removed a single tweet ever - so I do care to reply to suggest you improve your Twitter skills.

I also would like to know what exactly you mean by "another disappointment"?

First of all, I would like to thank you for your patience, I know you're a busy man.

Missing the PoCC's tweet on my second look is my fault. Sorry.

Thirdly, maybe the BFA might be something like the Android wallet situation, wherein the community expected something more but ended up having something in slight disappointment.

NEO also suffered the same situation. They announced something big was coming, but it was only a hacking contest or something.

Ok - let's analyze the "Android wallet situation". One month after announcing the PoCC (where we also announced the mobile wallet was in development), our Android wallet was ready to be published.

At that time - September, 11th 2017 - it really was big news for Burst: There was only the original, slightly dysfunctional and bloated wallet from Iceburst and the mobile wallet from BurstNation which was a) merely another frontend to their online wallet (hard coded in as backend) and b) you needed to register to use the wallet and c) the design was/is like 90ties...

So yes: from an objective point of view it was big news. Yet after presenting the mobile wallet, there were TWO - in words: TWO - guys who were disappointed/pissed: https://www.burstcoin.ist/2017/09/18/on-big-news/

My question: "What did those people expect?" was never answered.

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So here's what disappoints me:

• One man - not even a developer - says he believes Burst core algorithm is broken. Mouth-to-mouth propaganda makes of this "core developers say Burst core is broken". Of all people - pinkflower - you should know best, because you asked me for clarification and I gave it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg22268290#msg22268290
• Same with the mobile wallet: Two people are pissed, because they expected "more" - what this "more" should have been? No one knows. No one says. Yet - somehow - we make from this "the community expected something more(!!!)"

So I suggest you (as in: you all to whom it concerns) get your expectations and memory calibrated, because it's really pathological as of now.

It cannot be made a problem of the PoCC, if some people have serious issues with the dopamine glands in their brain.

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Having said that, let me help you with the calibration:

Android wallet September 11th 2017 was big News at the time. It wouldn't be big News today.

Yeah - we have the iOS version of the wallet ready for over a month, but Gay-Nazi-Apple (henceforth: GNA) is blocking it (as they do with basically all Alt-Wallets - see e.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/NEO/comments/7dvpz5/o3_wallet_being_removed_by_apple_we_need_your_help/). But we will deal with GNA the right way. So when that is available in the GNA App Store, it will be "Good News", but no big news.

And the BFA... well ... quote from the group preparing the Ann:

I like that quote lol. But most of the people's expections are calibrated so high these days because of all the promises and the marketing done by the multimillion $ ICOs. Whether they reach their goals or not, they dont care as long as they get their millions.

If Ethereum was made today, do you think it could compete in the scenario we have today? Maybe not. The competition is tougher and the expectations are higher.

Having said that, the developers should adapt and also recalibrate on what they consider as "big news".

If the BFA is really big news then great, but if its not then be careful, it might disappoint.

I am still missing any concrete examples what "more" people out there expect. What is considered "big news" "out there".
Because if people do not really know and just "expect more" without being able to pinpoint it, then there is no way to satisfy these people.
Most are like kids who expect an even shinier toy, an even faster gaming computer, without being able to make sensible use of any of it.

What I am afraid of, is that the news - once really "big enough" - won't even be understood. For a while at least.

Some concrete examples of "big news" would be a partnership with a tech company like the news about Stellar and IBM. Others would be being listed in the top Asian exchanges like Bitflyer and Bithumb.

"Big news" doesn't mean confining it in the technical aspects of the platform but also the practical aspects that bring cash inflows to the cryptocurrency.

Burst is the first PoC coin and the first to have smart contracts and cross atomic swaps, but that did not bring it "to the moon".

Just a little rant:

Sh!tcoin culture - which expects this kind of announcements - is ... sh!tty.
These "partnerships" often are absolute nonsense. I didn't hear from any of them to be of really serious relevance, not even those by big platforms like Ethereum.
And the listings on exchanges are regarded as "big news" because people that want to get rich quick via Pump and Dumps. After the final dump they are out again.

If altcoins want to be more than sh!tcoins, then they should leave behind this sh!tty culture. And I think Burst is on a good way.

I have to fully agree with d5000 here. These synthetic - forced - announced partnerships are often a mere PR vehicle. As such, they constantly fail to reach significant momentum.

True momentum is not gained by these artificials, but by genuine "best fit" usage. Meaning: when the solution a coin provides is best for someone to use it, he will use it and it will more likely result in something of true market significance, than these fake partnerships vaporware.

Therefore, the PoCC has no intention to make this sort of announcements or form this kind of artificial "partnerships". We have a plan, you might even say a strategy. Everyone - be it individuals, companies, institutions - is welcome to use the tools we will provide for their projects and we will work hard to make them as good as we possibly can so they are of generic use.

These nonsense-partnerships often start and end with nonsense protocol extensions/bloat, just because one of the partners requires this special "AMAZON_PROTOCOL_EXTENSION_A" or "EBAY_PROTOCOL_EXTENSION_B_IF_NOT_CRAIGSLIST_EXTENSION_C_PRESENT".

We never would hurt Burst with something short-sighted like that.
Instead, we would like to offer a car in an era of carriages.

Rico666, but from a general perspective, is the BFA big news if you recalibrate your own expectations to what the general community's expectations are?

I say general community because we need Burst's community own to grow if it wants to go somewhere and become something.

One of the PoCC's first statements addressed towards the "Burst community" was: "We owe this community nothing" and we always saw the bigger picture outside the "Burst community bubble".

Also, it should be clear by now, how our position regarding miners is.
Once stripped from the civil warlords, ankle-biters and do-nothings, Burst has a very nice and engaged community to bootstrap with.
It's clear, that the current Burst community will be a minority soon.

Everyone else (the future majority) has ~ 24 days time (as of this writing) to catch some hints. https://dymaxion.burst.cryptoguru.org/

impatiently waiting  ;D

Pretty impressive work. Seems you saved the project.

" I mean, when have you ever heard the last time about a partnership between the US Dollar and Exxon?"

 :D

didn't know the existence of this thread, is this an community takeover or how must i see this?

Kind regards,

Thank alot for pump!

The forums and the discord are more in use.

https://burstforum.net/
https://www.burstnation.com/wbb/
https://forums.getburst.net/
https://discord.gg/qNsQMS3

Never heard someone complaining about PoCC so I wouldn't call it takeover.

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