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Title: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Bobobog on August 16, 2017, 06:43:31 AM
I don't get it why people still don't know about this awesome project. Decentralised web - is a trillion dollar market. I mean this could be huge! A solid $100.

https://www.shiftnrg.org/about/


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Tesorex on August 16, 2017, 06:55:52 AM
Yeah the new web is just a few pages with a few lines of promises, while the real project will be ready to use perhaps 10 years from now but the token is live and well on 3 exchanges already, so where is the new web then? it's just an idea and people are fool enough to believe it and trade the token.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Bobobog on August 16, 2017, 09:10:02 AM
Yeah the new web is just a few pages with a few lines of promises, while the real project will be ready to use perhaps 10 years from now but the token is live and well on 3 exchanges already, so where is the new web then? it's just an idea and people are fool enough to believe it and trade the token.
Are you serious? The dev team is already released the product in testnet.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: aceptamosbitcoin on August 16, 2017, 09:19:53 AM
It will be a trillion dollar market only if being adopted.

Web users are changing their habits very very slowly. Just look how many years was needed to adopt HTML5 + CSS3. And here we are speaking even for
another browsing network.

Another example - IDN domains /non latin/ - they are available for more than 15 YEARS. And still their adoption is.... insignificant for this type of technology.

Imagine now adoption of this decentralized web without the support of big names...


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: benjioneniner on August 16, 2017, 09:48:10 AM
A decentralised web is crucial. Are there any other competing projects out there?


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: turbulence on August 16, 2017, 11:17:08 AM
pretty sure you already made a thread about the potential of decentralised web and shift. not to mention the many other already existing threads about this coin, so why exactly did you have to make a new one?


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: vlad06 on August 16, 2017, 11:18:26 AM
I kinda gave up on Shift.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: turbulence on August 16, 2017, 11:28:12 AM
A decentralised web is crucial. Are there any other competing projects out there?

maidsafe


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Stavri on August 16, 2017, 11:53:29 AM
I don't get it why people still don't know about this awesome project. Decentralised web - is a trillion dollar market. I mean this could be huge! A solid $100.

https://www.shiftnrg.org/about/

Many people know about shift. The people invested in january already made x50-60 and dumped it they are waiting a new opportunity collect again. It is priced so fast before. And price is not stable now.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Bobobog on August 16, 2017, 02:09:00 PM
Yes.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: elektibi75 on August 16, 2017, 04:34:57 PM
A decentralised web is crucial. Are there any other competing projects out there?

maidsafe

I think Maidsafe is trying to be more than just decentralized internet. They work on many things at the same time. But of course it doesn't mean they are better than SHIFT.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Bobobog on August 16, 2017, 08:43:49 PM
First target - $10. It would be easy for Shift.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: headachy on August 16, 2017, 11:57:17 PM
What about Blockstack? It aims for decentralised web too...which one will be better?


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: dealung on August 17, 2017, 01:51:15 AM
Many people are unaware of this project, plus many of its projects are popping up right now. So investors are confused to choose which project.
I think this project needs to be promoted again and dev have to create a special team.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: CryptoPro3 on August 17, 2017, 09:07:08 AM
This is truly a hidden gem. The SHIFT chart looks really, really good right now. I expect 3-4x in the short term.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Bobobog on August 17, 2017, 10:28:04 AM
This is truly a hidden gem. The SHIFT chart looks really, really good right now. I expect 3-4x in the short term.
Yeah. $10 is on the way.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Pamadar on August 17, 2017, 10:35:17 AM
This is truly a hidden gem. The SHIFT chart looks really, really good right now. I expect 3-4x in the short term.
Yeah. $10 is on the way.
aside from your claim that the value will rise to that price do you have any insiders information or this is just pure speculation and things
will still be depending on how the support will show up?


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Bobobog on August 17, 2017, 02:00:53 PM
This is truly a hidden gem. The SHIFT chart looks really, really good right now. I expect 3-4x in the short term.
Yeah. $10 is on the way.
aside from your claim that the value will rise to that price do you have any insiders information or this is just pure speculation and things
will still be depending on how the support will show up?
No, not pure speculation. The team and project is awesome, also people love it. Remember that - Shift has no marketing right now and devs plan marketing 2-3 weeks later. It would be huge.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Riuzan on August 17, 2017, 02:45:52 PM
This project looks so good but they need mass adoption ...


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Gyro on August 17, 2017, 04:35:30 PM
I don't get it why people still don't know about this awesome project. Decentralised web - is a trillion dollar market. I mean this could be huge! A solid $100.

https://www.shiftnrg.org/about/

I don't think this has any chance of mass adoption. I don't see how they are going to pull this off. No one will use this shit.

As for speculation, well that's another story. Sure it will go up in value but only on pumps.. $100.00 is a dream and will never happen.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Bobobog on August 17, 2017, 04:45:56 PM
I don't get it why people still don't know about this awesome project. Decentralised web - is a trillion dollar market. I mean this could be huge! A solid $100.

https://www.shiftnrg.org/about/

I don't think this has any chance of mass adoption. I don't see how they are going to pull this off. No one will use this shit.

As for speculation, well that's another story. Sure it will go up in value but only on pumps.. $100.00 is a dream and will never happen.
Looks like you're too ignorant for cryptoland. Tell me why?


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Bobobog on August 18, 2017, 01:25:16 PM
I don't get it why people still don't know about this awesome project. Decentralised web - is a trillion dollar market. I mean this could be huge! A solid $100.

https://www.shiftnrg.org/about/

I don't think this has any chance of mass adoption. I don't see how they are going to pull this off. No one will use this shit.

As for speculation, well that's another story. Sure it will go up in value but only on pumps.. $100.00 is a dream and will never happen.
Still waiting for you, ignorant. Why I shouldn't invested in Shift?


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: goodman4hire on August 18, 2017, 02:02:28 PM
I don't get it why people still don't know about this awesome project. Decentralised web - is a trillion dollar market. I mean this could be huge! A solid $100.

https://www.shiftnrg.org/about/

I don't think this has any chance of mass adoption. I don't see how they are going to pull this off. No one will use this shit.

As for speculation, well that's another story. Sure it will go up in value but only on pumps.. $100.00 is a dream and will never happen.
Still waiting for you, ignorant. Why I shouldn't invested in Shift?

Look at the chart.  It's been pumped and the project is a long way off from mainstream.  Its going to come back down.  Buy in then instead of jumping on the pump and wondering why you can't ever hit one.  Nto saying it wont be big on a few years but itching to buy it now is risky.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: sadema on August 18, 2017, 02:09:06 PM
I agree that SHIFT might be a good short term investment, but it's a long shot to be a serious contender in 2-3 years IMHO.  I don't like that there's very little information regarding the team on their website.  Not too many of them, and no detail on their qualifications or experience.   


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Bobobog on August 18, 2017, 03:42:37 PM
BTC is climbing that's why charts look like that.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: elektibi75 on August 23, 2017, 03:23:12 PM
I agree that SHIFT might be a good short term investment, but it's a long shot to be a serious contender in 2-3 years IMHO.  I don't like that there's very little information regarding the team on their website.  Not too many of them, and no detail on their qualifications or experience.   

Yeah, my main concern is lack of information about their team. And roadmap is only planned till Q3 2017.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Bobobog on August 27, 2017, 06:06:06 PM
I agree that SHIFT might be a good short term investment, but it's a long shot to be a serious contender in 2-3 years IMHO.  I don't like that there's very little information regarding the team on their website.  Not too many of them, and no detail on their qualifications or experience.   

Yeah, my main concern is lack of information about their team. And roadmap is only planned till Q3 2017.
Yes, you are right. Devs are working hard. I love 'em.

Q3 2017 - Phantom on mainnet - new website - roadmap - whitepaper.

Phantom is on testnet now. You can play with it.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Bobobog on August 27, 2017, 06:34:07 PM
Don't miss the train. :)

https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-SHIFT


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: vacuum_collapse on August 27, 2017, 07:07:03 PM
I have a very small amount of my portfolio in this coin, but I don't feel confident putting in more for the long term.

1. As their latest newsletter explains one of their main developers "Jan" left the core team. That leaves only 5 people in the core team. The response of the team sounds a bit bitter and defensive: "The Shift core team doesn’t share that idea of doing multiple projects at the same time. We expect full dedication to the Shift project." (see the newsletter.)

2. I expect that Lisk itself will integrate IPFS in the future after the SDK is released. Remember that Shift is based on Lisk.

3. It will take a lot of work to make Phantom user friendly to the extend that a multitude of web-developers will want to use it for their sites.

On the positive side, with the recent pump of Lisk, and the low market cap I do see this project growing or pumping in the short term. Also, please correct me if I'm wrong on some of the details.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Bobobog on August 31, 2017, 01:54:01 PM
I have a very small amount of my portfolio in this coin, but I don't feel confident putting in more for the long term.

1. As their latest newsletter explains one of their main developers "Jan" left the core team. That leaves only 5 people in the core team. The response of the team sounds a bit bitter and defensive: "The Shift core team doesn’t share that idea of doing multiple projects at the same time. We expect full dedication to the Shift project." (see the newsletter.)

2. I expect that Lisk itself will integrate IPFS in the future after the SDK is released. Remember that Shift is based on Lisk.

3. It will take a lot of work to make Phantom user friendly to the extend that a multitude of web-developers will want to use it for their sites.

On the positive side, with the recent pump of Lisk, and the low market cap I do see this project growing or pumping in the short term. Also, please correct me if I'm wrong on some of the details.
No, you are wrong. Jan is still with Shift.

You can ask here for info, they use Ryver: https://shiftnrg.ryver.com

Register: https://shiftnrg.ryver.com/application/signup/members/Q3vvIv5azjNuFKl

You may want to look at it: https://www.shiftnrg.org/about


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: tripkebab on August 31, 2017, 02:20:11 PM
He said that Jan left the core team which i believe is a correct statement. He is still with Shift but not on the core dev team anymore.

That said i have a different take on the news letter. If they are willing to let Jan go due to lack of focus on shift then the rest of the Devs had the confidence in their own skills to do so. He is still available for assistance if needed.

That said they are also in the process of hiring two new developers.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: anelenaniku on August 31, 2017, 04:10:30 PM
Yeah the new web is just a few pages with a few lines of promises, while the real project will be ready to use perhaps 10 years from now but the token is live and well on 3 exchanges already, so where is the new web then? it's just an idea and people are fool enough to believe it and trade the token.

Ten years is not too long time!


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: lucky_girl on August 31, 2017, 05:39:25 PM
I don't understand why is this coin so popular now. This coin has been on the market since 2015. For two years nothing happened to this coin and now is the main player? Can somebody tell me why now?  ???


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Bobobog on August 31, 2017, 05:40:53 PM
I don't understand why is this coin so popular now. This coin has been on the market since 2015. For two years nothing happened to this coin and now is the main player? Can somebody tell me why now?  ???
It forked. Shift already has a working product on testnet.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: roy92 on August 31, 2017, 05:43:20 PM
I don't understand why is this coin so popular now. This coin has been on the market since 2015. For two years nothing happened to this coin and now is the main player? Can somebody tell me why now?  ???

Bitcoin came out 2009. But it got popular a few years later so.. why not the same with shift now^^


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: ImHash on August 31, 2017, 06:19:35 PM
This is more like a joke than a real thing, you can't simply decentralize the internet, it already costs billions of dollars for the large companies to provide a safe and secure internet and they have the support of governments, how do you manage to decentralize it? by individuals running the whole net on their home computers?


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Bobobog on August 31, 2017, 06:28:22 PM
This is more like a joke than a real thing, you can't simply decentralize the internet, it already costs billions of dollars for the large companies to provide a safe and secure internet and they have the support of governments, how do you manage to decentralize it? by individuals running the whole net on their home computers?
Obviously, you don't know anything about SHIFT.

https://www.shiftnrg.org/about


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: SupperTrapper on August 31, 2017, 08:27:33 PM
I don't know a ton about the tech itself, but you are oversimplifying the situation a bit. And the whole point of utilizing IPFS to decentralize the web is to save those billions spent. I mean i do get what you are saying, that it is a huge undertaking, but the project is very real actually. It is literally happening right in front of your eyes. How can you be in crypto and be so skeptical of new technology, or rather, technology that pretty much already exist. Its just a matter of fine tuning and perfecting. Im not saying shift is the ultimate answer, but I do think they are on to something.

This is more like a joke than a real thing, you can't simply decentralize the internet, it already costs billions of dollars for the large companies to provide a safe and secure internet and they have the support of governments, how do you manage to decentralize it? by individuals running the whole net on their home computers?


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: anks on August 31, 2017, 09:01:06 PM
its always good to take a look at this project
ipfs in combination with decentralized exchangers would be a innovation that is definitely worth it


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: roy92 on August 31, 2017, 11:06:34 PM
I can´t imagine, that this project will pop off or something. At least not in the near future. To create internet 2.0 it needs much more then only one single crowdfunded ICO. As ImHash told, the internet is an expensive toy. You cant just "create" a new one.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: a29654 on September 01, 2017, 12:48:11 AM
I can´t imagine, that this project will pop off or something. At least not in the near future. To create internet 2.0 it needs much more then only one single crowdfunded ICO. As ImHash told, the internet is an expensive toy. You cant just "create" a new one.

Have you given yourself the team to read the white paper?


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: CryptoPro3 on September 01, 2017, 12:52:45 AM
I can´t imagine, that this project will pop off or something. At least not in the near future. To create internet 2.0 it needs much more then only one single crowdfunded ICO. As ImHash told, the internet is an expensive toy. You cant just "create" a new one.

#1 - SHIFT is not an ICO, it is an established project that is a fork of Lisk

#2 - It's web 3.0

#3 - They are taking it one step at a time. Phantom web hosting goes main net soon, and after that they will focus on the decentralized file storage and monetization of it.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: roy92 on September 01, 2017, 01:09:45 AM
I can´t imagine, that this project will pop off or something. At least not in the near future. To create internet 2.0 it needs much more then only one single crowdfunded ICO. As ImHash told, the internet is an expensive toy. You cant just "create" a new one.

#1 - SHIFT is not an ICO, it is an established project that is a fork of Lisk

#2 - It's web 3.0

#3 - They are taking it one step at a time. Phantom web hosting goes main net soon, and after that they will focus on the decentralized file storage and monetization of it.

Seems as if I was not enough informed about shift...

Is point 3 not basically the same as Sia offers it?


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: viking02 on September 01, 2017, 01:12:50 AM
Would most of you say shift would be a pretty good buy?  Its like under 2.50 right now. 


Also what wallets do you use for shift?


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: 5to9 on September 01, 2017, 02:14:12 AM
Blockstack > Shift


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: CryptoPro3 on September 01, 2017, 02:21:11 AM
Would most of you say shift would be a pretty good buy?  Its like under 2.50 right now. 


Also what wallets do you use for shift?

https://wallet.testnet.shiftnrg.org/


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: SupperTrapper on September 01, 2017, 04:16:51 AM
Blockstack uses cloud services like Dropbox and GoogleDrive. Not really the same thing at all.

Blockstack > Shift


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: anks on September 01, 2017, 02:30:35 PM
Blockstack uses cloud services like Dropbox and GoogleDrive. Not really the same thing at all.

Blockstack > Shift

I know that the ipfs system also has an file manager but i dont know if it is working as a cloud


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Bobobog on September 21, 2017, 03:40:25 PM
Blockstack uses cloud services like Dropbox and GoogleDrive. Not really the same thing at all.

Blockstack > Shift

I know that the ipfs system also has an file manager but i dont know if it is working as a cloud

Client wallet. Available for Mac, Windows and Linux.

https://i.imgur.com/JbyvFTR.png

https://github.com/ShiftNrg/shift-nano/releases/tag/v1.1.0


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Dreamya on October 24, 2017, 12:12:06 PM
https://www.shiftnrg.org/newsletter-october/


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: anks on October 24, 2017, 01:36:12 PM
it has been added to upbit exchanger
for all koreans


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: krypt0n1 on October 24, 2017, 03:07:15 PM
Blockstack > Shift

What are you basing this on and why are you using shift as a comparison. Blockstack uses cloud services, totally different project. It's better to compare shift and substratum, in which case shift is much better given they have actually provided SOME code and actually have a platform.


Title: Re: Decentralised web - Shift
Post by: Bobobog on November 26, 2017, 05:45:57 PM
This project looks so good but they need mass adoption ...
yep. last night it was $3