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You must have dumped your BCH at $250 USD. Im sorry for that.

feelsbadman that u dumped all your "shitcoins" that will become the new bitcoin...

Nahh that's too much to speculate. I don't think it'll reach that amount in less than a month. It takes time for it to reach that amount, but it could be possible in the future if it creates a much better platform and all.

Yay!

I said many times in past , BHC is bitcoin clones killer.

Killer in crypto figure of speech. But LTC, DASH, Doge, DigiByte, ZCash just got a serious competitor. BHC is here to stay and eat your bread.

This forum should be cleaned from FUDsters like you. why are you posting here? go on shitcash forum and post there.
This pump in bch is nothing but a pump by Roger Ver.

Do you believe in Illuminati and the New World Order too? Is Trump involved? Jews?

You're laughable, just watch your coins vanish and see the reborn of Bitcoin.

I believe in  BTCitcoin, not some shitty altcoin clone  :o

Bitcoin is becoming segcoin alt shitcoin as well. You will lose your faith in bitcoin then?

Segcoin != Bitcoin

It would only be possible if BCH's volume is not purely made by an intentional pump.

For BCH to reached BTC1 this August, it should be demanded by different persons, whales, average crypto people and so on. Still majority of speculations about the current price movement of BCH is still because of it's "BIG BACKERS".

For me, I don't mind BCH to reached BTC1, it's profit anyways but still not considered as great achievements to overcome BTCitcoin.

Even if the proponents of bch dumps all their bitcoins and pump bch, it will not be enough to pump it to equal bitcoin. Don't get too hyped just because it is pumping right now.

hahaha another shitcash follower.Time will tell,this is nothing but a shitcash pump ;D

That's never gonna happen by the month end or by the year end. The growth has begun to progress towards a bigger level. This won't take the price of bitcoin that had grown little by little through a long journey of multiple usage increasing the circulation and finally getting legalized usage.

LOL I will say never, bitcoincash might struggle to get even 10% of bitcoin price really soon. What bitcoincash offers more than bitcoin? Very slow transactions with centralized mining and nodes?

Bitcoin is king and will remain as king of crypto. Bitcoin cash is just another shit coin and millions of this free coins will hit the market really soon.

I refuse to believe this thread is even remotely serious

I dont think so that the price of bch become bitcoin price . Because if you see the price of bitcoin as of now itsalready 4100 dollars and it will continue to increase again this week. While the bitcoun cash did not reach more than 1000 dollars so did not reach what bitcoin they do they stock they price to 200-300 dollars each bitcoincash. Butif you have bitcoin and bitcoin cash its good for longterm.

Several things are possible, several things are equally not possible and this speculation is one of those things for BCH to equate bitcoin before the of August would then mean that a lot of people should start buying BCH to level up to bitcoin or a lot if people start dumping bitcoin to come down to the price of BCH and I don't see either happening not now and not in the future.

I really thought bitcoincash was going to crash when it was dipping in its $200 margin but now BCH holders are been rewarded for holding but whats driving this hype....Within 24hrs and its up by over 90% :o
http://i68.tinypic.com/335ec2f.png

It's now significantly more profitable to mine bch. It's now a real possibility

https://cash.coin.dance/blocks

i hope BCH  and BTC both win ,so we can be rich soon

You should say in the end of August 2018, lol. Bch is being pumped right now and could reach $700, I hope it can make to over $1000 again but most people will start to sell at this point. I've read in the news that bitcoin cash has gain more support from various business and mining bch is now 21 percent more profitable to mine than bitcoin, that's why its price spike over 50% in the last 24 hours.

What happen to BCH looks like the price is increasing too much well if you are guys supporting bitcoin cash better you just save your bitcoin cash and wait for more weeks if the price still increase or not if its increases well you can gain a benefits of the price increase but for me i can say i'll never transfer my bitcoin into bitcoincash because there are no merchant are accepting bitcoin cash here in my country or here in any website..  so i just keep my bitcoin and dumping my all bitcoin cash..

in my opinion this could happen 1 BCH is equal to 1 the BTC before the end of this August if a lot of people who support the bitcoin cash better then you just save the cash and wait for more of the bitcoin weeks if prices are still increasing, then you can benefit from the price increase but it will not be possible because most people using bitcoin ;)

I do not think like that, because I think bitcoin still has the potential that can not be achieved by any altcoin. But, we do not know what will happen in the future. But I do not think bch will be that high this month.

i am not sure about that although bch still have a good chance to be increase more but it needs more time before the price is equal with bitcoin. i don't think that bch can defeat bitcoin, but maybe bch will be back to the price when its launch in august 1. situation in the market is not predictable because bitcoin is directly increase with some correction and it still increase more so anything can happen before the end of august.

Oh the shitcoin shilling is getting strong here and mostly everyhwhere since yesterday. So many sockpuppets and shilling accounts. :D
Obviously an orchestrated pump. Let's see how long it's gonna last.
However I'm thankful for any idiot buying Bcash at this price so I can unload more for some nice profits and getting more BTC.

I am confused with the person who bought Bitcoincash because until whenever the coin will not be able to match the price of his mother's coin.

BCH is a shitcoin in my opinion.
But it will have a huge pump for sure.
But that doesn't mean it will be like BTC.
Btc is going to mainstream quickly.

This is correct. But it is not the only coin more profitable to mine,,, cost for cost and specs for specs. And for as long as you can only sell BCH for BTC you will do nothing but improve the value of BTC and decrease the value of BCH. And tell me now who is mining only for profit? This is the majority. BCH will not die but it cannot be the strongest.

I would slap you with a cactus if I could.You are not a normal human being with average brains,you are special kind of a retard.Your logic is not only the next level but it is what happens when Newton has sex with Jerry.I literally ran out of words to define you also,

BCH's rise is some clever whale manipulation mixed with luck but long term it's going no where as a coin.

I think this pump has been triggered by a happy coincidence and some cynical players: the first 8MB block was mined this week and mining difficulty is also about to halve.

Pump scheme (also remembering that BCH creators control most of the mining activity on the network):
1). Announce an 8MB block has been mined for the first time ("validating" their tech works - which is stupid anyway, of course it was going to work)
2). Pump the price just in time for the weekend (which is usually a bearish period and when newbie speculators are most jittery)
3). Remind everyone that mining difficulty is about to halve just as the price per coin is shooting up
4). Watch as people panic buy BCH to get in on the pump over the weekend
5). Dump whatever BCH they haven't already sold on the way up sometime next week or the week after and enjoy the last massive profit before BCH craters in to a dead coin

Yes it is, but only short-term. A difficulty/price balance will stabilize somewhere so that BTC and BCH mining profitability is somewhere close to parity. The current BCH price is just artificially pumped and is not sustainable in long term... it is still just an altcoin which is not accepted almost anywhere and thus is quite useless. It's only good for speculation purposes :)

If miners leave to BCH, then BTC will die. This is one of the difficult times for BTC.

Exactly. We've seen such pump&dump schemes many times before with other altcoins. Poor newbie "investors" who buy in during this artificial hype. This spike is pure speculation and speculating on BCH price is no better than speculating with any other altcoin. Maybe except that some other altcoin have real development news and provide some improvement over bitcoin. When SegWit will be running, BCH will only provide some de-provement :P

If miners leave for BCH, difficulty will increase which in turn will reduce difficulty for BTC (pulling miners back again). I don't think the majority of miners will flip/flop like that.

it is not just the difficulty. right now mining bitcoin is ridiculously profitable. they are earning about 13-14.5 bitcoin per block and that is worth $54,000-$60,000 per block. and price will stay up and the swings will be 10-15% at worst case scenario.

meanwhile in bitcoin cash they earn 12.5-12.8 BCC and that is $9,000-$10,000 and that is while the swings are crazy as big as 60-70% loss in one day.

a miner getting the reward for bitcoin can be sure he will get the $60K when the 100 block period passes. but the miner mining BCC can not be sure he gets $10K when the 100 block passes. by that time price may be back at $200 again.

Thats why theyr pumping BCH. To minimize those differences and make it attractive for miners to swap

I am also short of word after dumping my bitcoin Cash at $303 to see it being pump from that point to $757 this morning. The coins is actually doing well and I think with time we would begin to see that it will be compete with the real bitcoin. Currently people are about to dump their coins for bitcoin Cash. Since popular exchangers like poloniex and bittrex started to accept it it has been doing well.

It still needs more adoption. People still need to use either BTC or ETH to exchange for other alt coins on some exchanges. No easy buy of BCC through Coinbase. No good wallet yet. The price is probably too high for what it should be worth at this point in time.

I have heard it too. That's what I was expecting in fact. After I see 0,2 BTC sold a little bit. Keeping the rest of it for 0,5 BTC. I see no reason it would not reach 1 BTC as miners favor mining BCH.

Who knows if this coin can survive for a year or two?
And thoughts about 1 bch = 1 btc? I'll rather go back to sleep and start dreaming.

I keep seeing websites stating that it's over with BTC mining, now it's more profitable to mine BCH over BTC and all that FUD. Is no one taking into account the fees miners get from transactions? Bitcoin averages 12k transactions per hour white BCH barely reaches an average of 800 transactions / hour. The revenue from transactions fee is huge for BTC atm.

Also, if a large pool, or more, were to switch over to mine the BCH blockchain, the difficulty would adjust in such a way that it would make it very unprofitable to mine it over BTC blockchain.

Why do people keep claiming that is more profitable to mine BCH?

interesting. i thought it was never gonna go back up so much anymore.
also, why do ppl still call it bch while it is clearly listed as bcc everywhere.

Well, if there is war between bitcoins, could ETH possibly gain from it?

This is, for me, why it's such an obviously cynical pump by the people behind BCC/BCH. At current transaction rates and volumes, BCC mining only makes good money on new blocks. Guess who controls > 90% of BCC mining? The originators of the fork.

Pumping the price short term is easy but getting BCC tx volumes up to BTC levels requires massive adoption by everyone in the space (exchanges, end users, miners etc etc). Can't see that level of co-ordination happening and long before it did, difficulty would have shot up (so miners who switched after this huge pump don't gain anything more than what they would have had sticking with BTC).

Buy the dip  ;D

A bet was just created on BitBet on this very topic:

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Mu thought, hmm.. i think it is still too early to make such a claim that BCH can really reach bitcoin's value. I mean, think about it op, don't you find the sudden increase of price in BCH rather suspicious?? I mean, i think and i see this sudden price increase as just an effort of a group of people to pump BCH and get as mich attention as they can. But maybe when the platform of BCH improves in the next few months, I'll have more interest on it. That's probably what a lot of people taday also think.

I do not believe it, but there is growth, but it started well, but at the same time bitkoyn did not stop, I can not believe that in such a short time, some kind of coin can go as long as bitkoyn

Difficult to do this, BCH will always be behind BTC. Although BCH today has a significant rise in market, it doesn't mean will continue to creep up. BCH peak will not be able to match BTC. This's just a trend to profit from its trading and longterm BCH speculation isn't too high.

This will finish sooner than it is started. Maybe around Chinese new year or Christmas we can expect more rise but this will be the case with majority of altcoins. I don't know why should this one be so different? Do not be greedy, stay away. Next fork we will have another one probably, so better save your BTC's

It seems Bitcoin going down in the last few days and Bitcoin Cash go up. CoinMarketCap still 144 bi.

The mining profitability of bitcoin cash has also increased tremendously and right now it is more profitable than that of bitcoin.
I am now a little bit confused as to in which coin I should stop believing, is it bitcoin cash or bitcoin I should stop believing in.

https://www.coingecko.com/en/price_charts/bitcoin-cash/usd

Not impossible I mean this is crypto street
But that would mean strong miner backing as strong as btc
And the branding confusion needs to be iron out as to man on street wants to buy BCH when they are looking for bitcoin

You can buy BCH with USD or Euros on Kraken. And Bitfinex allows you to buy BCH with USD. I wouldn't be surprised if the eastern exchanges allow you to buy with fiat as well.

stay away, look for other coins...

I do not believe because btc can be said that its parent is not possible bch can offset btc......

No, never. Bch is just a mining coin, but there are so many dumb people and unprofessional people that follow the hype.

No, that won't be possible because it is clear that what BCH had been experiencing for 3 days was a solid pump and it does not look like it will hold on for long, so it's better to stay away atm and keep calm because even if BTC goes down, it doesn't mean that BCH would take over BTC as BTC will always remain number one and I see no reasons for BCH to compete BTC during long journey. If it was to go 1 BTC, it could have shown such a big difference when it started itself but it dipped down from 0.48 to 0.06 and it shows that BCH is nothing more than just another pump dump coin.

Stop believing in bitcoin cash never ever bitcoin cash will be the price of bitcoin it can only have a higher cap because if 1 bitcoin should be equal to 1 bitcoin cash it will have to be same price as bitcoin cash but that's impossible to happen now for that to be possible everyone should sell their bitcoin and buy bitcoin cash because both of same supply and something like that will never happen

I don't really think that it would get that high,
I don't really think that the clone could really be valued like the original.

exactly, bch is just an altcoin like many others

No one needs Bitcoin Cash, I hope the money goes back in the other crypto currencies.

i think its a joke, just like etc will surpass eth in a short time, i hope you can prove i am wrong since i have both btc and bcc

Less transaction less block chain growth.  everything is good for something.  ETH have now 250 GB blockchain and ETC 20 GB. A year from now ETH will start having huge problems because of their blockchain size, while ETC will have zero and all solutions ETH will implement, ETC will take and reduce its already small blckchain.

Bottom point is things are never just positive or negative but they are mix of both. Question is what will prevail on long term.

obiously not, i think its not possible before end of august.Now at this moment Bitcoin Cash price is 732.99$ you can check this site https://coinmarketcap.com already 19.11% dump.I think BCH is dumping after few days.

In august certainly not. Longer term who knows?

You know, it doesn't have to be bch reaching up to btc. It could be the other way round, with btc falling near bch levels.

The drama with btc is far from over. Segwit2x is forking in November and, at least judging from the 90+% intended support, it will not be anything like bch.

This could be the fork to actually split the community in two. BCH is sure to win from that as it's relative position improves and we will have a third contestant for the king of coins.

This is rapidly becoming like game of thrones for the crypto world

Second post is the best answer :d It is impossible to see that 1 bitcoin cash= 1 bitcoin, if that happens it will be probably end of bitcoin.

BCC is an attempt by create an equal thing to BTC in such little time which seems to be very very difficult, although it rose more of value I do not think that it has the same confidence that BTC does.

I do not even see such a possibility. There's a chance that maybe 5%

Lol! It is so ridiculous to even imagine that before the end of August, bitcoins will become equal to bitcoin cash. It is simply out of question. Bitcoin cash was dumped too badly few weeks ago which decreased its value. Bitcoin cash can never ever be able to meet bitcoins not even in dreams.

I think it is impossible. Even BCH is growing fast, even its value became higher than its released value, I think it will not reach 1 BTC. One BTC is equivalent to $4000 and one BCH is $500 dollars, it has a big difference between the two. Also, August will already end yet BCH did not even get 50% of the value of BTC. So I really think it won't happen.

It is too much to think that much. No doubts it has potential but at the same time it doesn't has that wide adoption as BTC has.

How its possible bro? its impossible your thinking is really bad.Because there are no coins cross or same value with Bitcoin i think.There are no competitor with BTC.So its really difficult BCH cross BTC.Already BCH is big dump.

Wov! I am amazed of your capability for structuring a sentence lol.

There is no impossible in crypto world. But...

It's impossible :D BCH is just bullshit. BCH will always be behind the BTC.

If that stupid BitCH is anywhere near to 'original' Bitcoin anytime soon, I will sell all my crypto and live a life true to fiat. A fork to satisfy someone's ego and an attempt to put the power into a small number of people is not Bitcoin. Ha! Suck that!

Honestly i don't believe that's possible even in the far future. I don't expect it to reach anywhere near BTC. I'm sorry my friend but it doesn't even the potential.

They say everything is possible in BTC, I somehow agree with that. But in BCH, i don't think so. It's nearly impossible for an alt to be equal in the price of btc. And to think that we're only have few days to go before the end of this month. That makes the thing more impossible.

Hahahaha  :D :D :D

Enjoy that astro-turf nickle.  You earned it.

still too young, not enough support, and comparing other factor with Bitcoin, that's all lead to two words: near impossible.
All hail Bitcoin!

Lol yes, bitcoin cash just like another altcoin and yet so many people hype about bitcoin cash. Bitcoin cash will never reach the bitcoin price in the end of august, even in the end of the year 1 bitcoin cash will not reach 1BTC. 5 days left before September come and i think it will never happen.

No I don't think that's going to happen. Can't believe there are some people who would ever think it could amount equal to 1 btc before end of August. I think that's absurd! It is too young and too early to speculate it could amount to that, it may even takes years for this coin to be equal to 1 btc.

There are too many big players already established in Bitcoin for them to dump it and rush to BCH in any significant amount.  It will just be an altcoin to make some money with for the foreseeable future.

This is an unrealistic prediction in my opinion!
Bitcoin is the king...

I don't think it will amount the same as bitcoin. That will never gonna happen soon! Maybe after a year or two. It's okay to hope for it to pump but this prediction is very unrealistic lol

bch will be the king of altcoin but will never reach bitcoin

Considering we are now almost at the end of the month of August I can confidently say BCH will not be equal to BTC :-)

Hoping that 1 BCH would hit at least 0.25 BTC, because that is where my sell limit orders are.

Everyday that passes where you haven't dumped your BCH, you risk losing these coins. BCH being more profitable to mine is not a real economical situation, it is manipulated, just like BTC's mempool which is now again under attack by the usual suspects.

Once the current manipulation ends (because the attackers will run out of money sooner or later) BCH will crash and your opportunity to make free, real BTC, will be over too. So stop gambling and dump your BCH is the common sense thing to do.

no, not even 1% of possibilty. But at least let's hope the price get better again, i feel so sorry for them who pumped the price before falling again yesterday ;D I think this coin is not really that bad like people told us before, it still good though to be king of altcoin  ;D

This.  Exactly this.

Sold mine at $800. The way I see it, it will either replace bitcoin, or be worthless. I see no middle ground so I was happy to take the free money.

What a Very funny thinking, its not possbile bacause still now Bitcoin price is $4281 on the other hand Bitcoin Cash value is $629 in https://coinmarketcap.com that means 3652$ big difference within BCH.

Bitcoin cash is trying so hard. It says it is the real Bitcoin. It says you don't have to wait so much. It has so much political support and so many parties trying to hold up the price. It is more profitable to mine, etc. But it is still an alt. And it still needs to be traded for Bitcoin. It won't reach half by end of August or by end of 2017. If that is true, then buy all the BCH you want and hold while BTC keeps going up.

It is not more profitable to mine.  Last diff rate adjust dropped profitability to 25% of previous levels instantly.

And that will happen every time the miners bounce from BTC<->BCH, until they eventually get fed up with losing profit by being on BCH when it's cycled to low profitability.

I don't think so. In current rate, it will take some time, longer than two weeks to reach bitcoin's price in ideal situation. But in actual, i think it is not possible for bcc to reach btc, for it has corresponding price.change in bcc's rate change. Some says bcc is a shitty coin, i don't know for what reason but if that's true, then that's another factor that incapitate bcc to reach btc in terms of price.

Any altcoin won't reach price of bitcoin any time soon. And definitelly not in such short time period.

I think in present condition it is not possible because Bitcoin is always the Dominant currency where there are many stores accepting it in some countries already. BCH is one of the other altcoins where in future it has demanded, may be the price of BCH will increase in the market.

i wonder where starter of this topic is ;D

August has ended and 1 week has past from next month (September) and nothing has come out of bitcoin cash apart from a one time pump and then getting dumped back down.

It can't be happpened hahaha as of now because bitcoin is bitcoin only nothing would can defeat it. We may accept if it's happens but i think it wouldn't not happened this time or maybe it can be but next year hehehe or next next years

hahaha well indeed this only as a joke to give spirit to those that did have a huge disadvantage in the BCH. Because at the time of his appearance, bch tremendous increase but in recent weeks has decreased. So while some people play in trading early in the emergence of the bch will get plenty of losses when they decided to keep it. Indeed it's something that would be impossible, but this does not cover the possibility could happen, only saa it all takes time and a lot of support.

Are we seeing the bottom? As the BTC price slides from 5k to 4,065 USD.

It is ridiculous to state your thoughts here. Because the things you say are ridiculous and will never happen. The removal of Bitcoin Cash is merely a hope trader.

Bitcoin Cash will disappear in the future.

Haha! I do agree with you about such a ludicrous post. It is not even going to happen in dreams that bitcoin cash beats bitcoin. Bitcoin cash is just kid in crypto family, a new born infant who even can’t speak clearly and just babble all the time. Bitcoin cash indeed does not have bright future.

I would not think so, but once again crypto currency is hard to predict.

Who still support to BCH?  :D
We are the end of the September, everybody sees BCH's real price :)

Don't dream, if we can see 0.2 btc in the end of the year, we are successful.

wake up bro. This is not a good time to sleep. everything is not under control. sell your bch to protect your money is a good idea now

I wont happen .
BCH is just Shit starter and i think Ethereum has More potential but
at the moment all the coins wont reach BTC ..
Stick to the Original.

Will never happen because BCH is only a child of BTC and BTC market is more trusting than BCH market. I think BCH needs more time to be able to declare BCH be able to defeat BTC.

Very very big fishes, whales. The volume was crazy. I doubt it will overcome Bitcoin tho. At least not anytime soon.

   This prediction did not come true, and I also have doubts that bitcoin cash can come close to bitcoin. Now I read about new hard fork
and some new chain splitting, as I understand soon we will have new bitcoin child as you call them, but in a fact that is just one new
alt-coin. As this topic, soon we will see new ones about new alt-coin and questions can it cost like bitcoin.
   Bitcoin will be the first and most trusted coin ever, and new coins made from bitcoin will have success probably but not like bitcoin.
September is soon over and bitcoin cash is far from bitcoin in price and popularity, it will always stay far behind.

I'm surprised it's been so steady price wise at least and how few interesting developments there've been.

Where's all the pent up innovation that core was shitting on?

It hasn't panned out how i was expecting so far.

BTH is hyip coin , it will never cost as BTC.

 Indeed! Bitcoin cash is just wastage of money and time and was a vain attempt of beating bitcoins. Bitcoin are the most popular cryptocurrency and people are really crazy about holding bitcoin. Bitcoin are never ever going to drop to the level of bitcoin cash.

this was one of the most impossible scenarios I have heard and it did not occur in the end. I dont say Bitcoin Cash is worthless but even the current price and market cap is way too high

There is still a long way to go before you can write it off.  A lot will depend on the China situation and then another fork of Core in November.

My random guess is that thing will just like how ETH and ETC compete, at the end, the original ones always win and hold their value or even make the value goes to the moon.
There's no way that BCH could have equivalent value to BTC while the marketcap, demands, and many factors isn't the same. There'll always gap betweet each other's value, depends on how the community think what they deserve.
and my speculation is that, when BTC will always have significant higher value than BCH.

When I saw there is only 40-50 transactions in bch blocks I sold everything. No one using = no value.

BCH can never equal with BTC. The only way is by sabotaging BTC by implanting malicious code during the hardfork. I dont know what will be the future of crypto if this happened. Hope they stop hardforking BTC.

If you analyze where bitcoin and bitcoin cash are, and if we continue to see a dip in bitcoin prices, i honestly don't see BCH surviving as investors will push their money into stable projects which have real uses unlike just being an alt for basic payments.

I think it can't reach 1btc=1bch. My speculation is just around 1,000 USD only. Also lot of people telling that "Bitcoin cash is the new Bitcoin". Don't know if that is only for hype. But I do believe it will, since on the supply of bitcoin cash. Then bitcoin cash have the potential to reach more than 1,000$ USD end of the year ,not august.

BCH could be the new Silver?