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Title: To Many SCAM!
Post by: taibas on August 20, 2017, 02:04:34 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: billyj111 on August 20, 2017, 02:22:42 PM
Well, there were also many good ICO that could earn a lot of money. Adex, Tenxpay example. Coming soon  Comsa.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: SonyEricSon on August 20, 2017, 02:29:10 PM
I advise you to invest in AVENTUS, ICO will start on 6 september, I am sure aventus will not be clear, all very clear and transparent here. You will not regret it


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: krizniq on August 20, 2017, 02:35:06 PM
I am sure aventus will not be clear, all very clear and transparent here. You will not regret it

ummmm ... wafatak?


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: taibas on August 20, 2017, 02:45:39 PM
I advise you to invest in AVENTUS, ICO will start on 6 september, I am sure aventus will not be clear, all very clear and transparent here. You will not regret it
Maybe you are wrong writing, word notes need to be removed, lol
You can not say SCAM to the project you support, please correct your words


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: tdeannova on August 20, 2017, 04:04:27 PM
Yes agree this discussion, as we know now there is a good project said scam and scam project is said good.

I think there are some nice ico ie
Monetha
Utrust
Cindicator
Spectiv
Rivets and many more

But the main thing is who is holding the project or bounty manager. I trust the bounty manager, because their reputation is at stake there and I am sure they will be very meticulous in choosing the project.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: hanlieuiypm9832 on August 20, 2017, 04:39:50 PM

I think you can take a look at the ambrosus, which has a experienced development team and a lot of famous praters, the ICO will start on September 13th.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Glory90 on August 20, 2017, 04:53:38 PM
Many scams in ICO, Try to be more selective choose it
Or better invest it into some altcoin, like Dash, Ripple, Stellar, Litecoin, etc


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: vfrcbv91 on August 20, 2017, 05:07:28 PM
I think cindicator a good project, because of the small value on the ICO can give you is sooooo good profit.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: joseafonso123az on August 20, 2017, 05:13:55 PM
That's true. Many ICO's become dust in no time and give us  some loss. I don't trade a lot, but we have  to be careful in selecting the ICO's we invest, read carefully what they are for and what will they bring, and ofcourse, their first supporters. This is my opinion.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: vrm86 on August 20, 2017, 05:16:09 PM
Paying bag of coins to some random guys from internet, just for promises - how this could end well in most cases?
Greed is a fuel for scammers.
Here is my "favorite" scam: Stackcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=457575.msg5302833#msg5302833
At least something funny ;)


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Pfizer on August 20, 2017, 05:21:33 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results

Lots of persons thought ico is a way to steal money from the people. Then they launched tons of ico. To avoid getting scammed, try to make sure you've taken a look at the white paper and investigated the background of the team members. This way, you find only serious and real projects.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: tutkrup on August 20, 2017, 05:25:39 PM
I agree that there are a lot of ICOs lately and it's possible that some of them might not return the investment, but the right ones can pay you for all the rest and much more. It's a high risk - high reward investment and I'm afraid that it's not possible to reduce risks with the same profit possibility and pick just the winners.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: jameshowlett on August 20, 2017, 05:30:42 PM
I do not know which ICOs are scam and which are not. As you can see, monaco, tenx, tokencard have the same purposes and they do earn a great support from customers. How can it be? I mean, how can 3 same ICO can survive at the same time


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: ahmedjamal1998 on August 20, 2017, 05:34:45 PM
The sad story is many people start ICOs just for the sake of stealing money from people who are desperate for easily making money.
So you can see lots and lots of them around the internet but most of them are totally lies and scams.

Before sending any money here or there make enough researches about the project itself, the team behind it and then decide if it's gonna work. Remember that even if you make a topic asking for the most trusted projects, that's not the final answer (it's you)


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: lonelygrimm on August 20, 2017, 05:43:54 PM
not really scam, but yeah it's scam LOL

ICO now it's an event for fast money, with promoting bonus from buying at ICO they got lot of profit from nothing, this is not someone or some group fault, it's everyone fault, people supporting nonsense project with saying some BS to raise the project popularity  :P


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: gon on August 20, 2017, 05:57:47 PM
Yes, lately there a log of buls*ts around.

Everybody need to use his own head as nobody is banning scams on this forum.

Here is how I check the ANN topics:

1. Is there a Roadmap
2. Is there a public links to Dev profiles
3. Is there at least a working proof-of-concept.

If there are 3 YESes then I continue to whitepaper. In case of any of this information is absent - to ignore list.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: SonyEricSon on August 20, 2017, 06:10:23 PM
I am sure aventus will not be clear, all very clear and transparent here. You will not regret it

ummmm ... wafatak?
Sorry I have a writing error, I do not mean so, I also can not belie the project that I support, I'm sure aventus is the best ICO next month


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: ridery99 on August 20, 2017, 06:18:32 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results

Don't buy ICOs  :o


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: MedaR on August 20, 2017, 06:27:14 PM
Too many projects, nobody guaranty success, ICO's are not perfect solutions for funding, and they are inefficient in the long run. I won't mentions those scams, this is risk you are going to take when you involves in this.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: mmhaimhai on August 20, 2017, 06:34:00 PM
Yeah there are now lots of ICO turning to be scam because lots of people is investing of ICO scammer had take this opportunity too. Anyways ICO still a good to inveat just be careful which you put your money make atudy first and think lots of times before making decision.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: suryogandul on August 20, 2017, 06:44:16 PM
I think before we use the money to invest, we should to be good to read their whitepaper and see who's the team that working behind it, trusted developer, and the clear roadmap, many successfull ico outside there if we choose carefully


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: FrankNoland on August 20, 2017, 07:04:27 PM
I think its wise to read and research about a certain project before you can even consider investing. But, there are a lot of icos which are ongoing and in my opinion are looking good and are worth investing in. I think you should consider in opus, social, dimcoin, vibrate, they might benefit you for long term investment.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: klarki on August 20, 2017, 08:56:53 PM
I'm afraid this topic will be a good place to manipulate opinion.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: winspiral on August 20, 2017, 09:00:23 PM
Try my U2 system...at least you will not be scammed...
Paying since october 2015.
All is for free.
you can only earn.
What you see is what you get or will get.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: phr0stbyt3 on August 20, 2017, 09:50:07 PM
There is no legit ico in one way or another they are all scam. Just download the whitepaper of few so called good ico and compare you will find the same similarities in all the only difference the ico dates will be different.
In terms of legal ico are actually not permitted they are raising funds without even registering their business i do understand somw ico give super profit but that's a huge risl just for profit


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: White sugar on August 20, 2017, 09:54:07 PM
Try my U2 system...at least you will not be scammed...
Paying since october 2015.
All is for free.
you can only earn.
What you see is what you get or will get.

From trust page:

Running an "investment game" with the tagline "No risk...You can not lose.".
Claiming that it is not a ponzi, however unabled to explain how it works.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: winspiral on August 21, 2017, 06:33:51 AM
Try my U2 system...at least you will not be scammed...
Paying since october 2015.
All is for free.
you can only earn.
What you see is what you get or will get.

From trust page:

Running an "investment game" with the tagline "No risk...You can not lose.".
Claiming that it is not a ponzi, however unabled to explain how it works.

All scammers explain and are scammers...
So far since october 2015 my U2 is paying and all "paying" investmenst have been paid back with profit.
Now all is for free and I claim till that it is risk free.
I claim that you can not lose but only earn.
Why explain what is said on the site?
All is very clear for me and for the members who cliaim for free and earn?

Quote
Number of claiming:2590 times
Number of selling:340 times.
Number of re-invest:1225 times.
Number of VIP claiming:1655 times.
Number of VIP destroying:268 times.

You not only hurt me,but as well my members who have claimed so many times.
You have misslead already so many people you afraid with your red messages and with your red trusts.

I offer already for over 25 years now cash opportunities for the fun,and you imagine that suddently I become a scammer for few satoshi?

The problem is you can not understand that I spend so much time just for offering cash for free...
If you do not understand...then other are scammer...
Wake up...the earth is not flat...and the ones who say it is like a ball are not liars and fools.
When you do not know about...then do not talk about...
Do not repeat junk you read...(lol)
(my poor English is more true that your perfect English...





Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: nrvasquez on August 21, 2017, 06:36:00 AM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results

I think you should be more careful in choosing ICO like their team, manager and goals, because the scam or not of ICO can be seen from these three things. Make sure they really have realistic goals.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: coin-investor on August 21, 2017, 06:40:02 AM
Well, there were also many good ICO that could earn a lot of money. Adex, Tenxpay example. Coming soon  Comsa.


I agree Adex is such a good find for ico investors, they have a good platform coming up and it's just a matter of time before they hit it big they went up to as high as $2.50 and I predict that it could go up to $10 in the future.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: NJB18 on August 21, 2017, 06:46:59 AM
Apparently, not all ICOs are scam, although a great number of ICOs are. Now, you cannot blame them totally because shit people are always there. They will always be there. It is our responsibility to do the checking before investing. There is whitepaper, website, team, and so on to validate the truth of the project.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: omonuyak on August 21, 2017, 06:50:53 AM
I see many ico coming out every day including scam one, many investors has  lose  millions of dollars through scam project and the scammers keep present scam ico into the market and promote them daily. Demarket,jds, are some of the good ico in the market today.  Traders  should endeavour to do there research very well before investing there hard earned into scam ico. Ico investment is good if you invest in the right one.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: danjonbit on August 21, 2017, 06:57:40 AM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results

Yes same here, i am an ICO fan so invest most in ICOs but  i did try to invest some that is a scam!,  so now i did learn my mistakes, be prepared always, go to a good coin, get information on what youve invested, and also get some suggestion on others here in the forum.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: n4poleon on August 21, 2017, 07:21:57 AM
How about minimize investing on vaporware projects. And more on a working prototypes. But that's not my business. My point is, they can promise everything buzzword after buzzword. Due diligence is one key. It is good to be skeptical. When you have suspicions and degree of shadyness, ask the dev directly. If they can't answer. Then maybe its a good time to move onto the next project. 


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Zloren on August 21, 2017, 07:31:28 AM
It depends on many factors, the most important is the team of cooperation and management of the developer.
We take the example of coindash, although exposed to hack at the beginning of ICO, but they are responsible, they remain legit pay tokens, both for investors and for bounty


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: ngocbkcse on August 21, 2017, 07:39:41 AM
I certainly agree that the vast majority of ICOs will eventually fail and many of the valuations upon launch certainly are absurd. Never put money in to something new unless you totally believe in it.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: hase0278 on August 21, 2017, 07:41:09 AM
The sad story is many people start ICOs just for the sake of stealing money from people who are desperate for easily making money.
So you can see lots and lots of them around the internet but most of them are totally lies and scams.

Before sending any money here or there make enough researches about the project itself, the team behind it and then decide if it's gonna work. Remember that even if you make a topic asking for the most trusted projects, that's not the final answer (it's you)
I agree with you since most ICO's that I see nowadays looks like they just intend to grab money fast or they only intend to make some money out of their ICO and if they got enough returns from their crowdsale, they will most likely stop it.  The best way to stop yourself from being scammed is to not invest on ICO's unless you want to earn some money and if that is the case, the best way to avoid scams is to research a coin first.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: camelson on August 21, 2017, 08:04:16 AM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results

ICO is the shortest way to earn a lot of money, there are a lot of ICO projects going on and you never know that which one will succeed so batter not to invest in any ICO, if you are interested in a project then buy some when they listed on the exchange.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Ahimoth on August 21, 2017, 08:16:46 AM
We can't really tell which is which.
Some ICO even started to be good, like you check and read all about them, but when the ico had ended, it just turn to scam. The campaign particpants are waiting for months for their stakes and the investors had lose all their hopes in waiting. The least we can do is to wish the token will be sold out immediately so the ico will end also. In that case there's a chance that the ico will not turn to be scam.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: L on August 21, 2017, 08:20:35 AM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results

Always do your own research,before sending your money to some strangers you better research the project a lot, if you're not able to evaluate the project technical merit by reading the white paper you better stay away from those kind of investments.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: winspiral on August 21, 2017, 08:36:35 AM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results

Always do your own research,before sending your money to some strangers you better research the project a lot, if you're not able to evaluate the project technical merit by reading the white paper you better stay away from those kind of investments.

People see scam every where even there where scam does not exist...
Be aware that often you go away good oppotunities and all the people missleading you will vanish...


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Diced90 on August 21, 2017, 09:03:53 AM
If these scam ICO's continue we should expect these upcoming projects to go through some sort of project screening to valuate if the project can hold up its promises in the short run for the first part of it, but i know there are still genuine projects out there worth investing in...there is still hope.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: rumex on August 21, 2017, 09:09:44 AM
The best we can do for ourselves is to continue to expose all of the scam project that is confirmed. Once we all do that then automatically all scam projects are blacklisted. Also we need to identify the team behind such project and avoid all  their future projects.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: leea-1334 on August 21, 2017, 09:14:22 AM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results

Always do your own research,before sending your money to some strangers you better research the project a lot, if you're not able to evaluate the project technical merit by reading the white paper you better stay away from those kind of investments.

This is absolutely true for avoiding complete scams that disappear with your hard-earned money. But you know what? If you look at those ICOs with so-called reputable people, good background and amazing technical details, many have also become abandoned or have lost a lot of their original value. And some who don't have real names of people, no real product, etc. are doing so well. I tell you this. ICOs are too much gamble at the moment.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: machinek20 on August 21, 2017, 09:33:51 AM
unfortunately there are no way to know the ICO whether scam or not, you can search for information about the coin developer, the marketing team and everything, but that still cant guarantee it will avoid you from scam, and up until now I only can guessed which one is the legit one


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Stavri on August 21, 2017, 09:34:22 AM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results
Yeah there are so many scams. It is really hard to find the good icos. But what i dont understand is even the most careless prepared projects without any reference and unknown team can easily collect thousands of ethereum which means millions of USD. They are able to scam on investors with a simple web site, a whitepaper and good bounty program.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Mieehayii on August 21, 2017, 10:19:33 AM
may you try Lakebanker, can't sure if it will succeed, but be sure it will not fail. anyways, it wil be traded on Lakebtc before 11-1, 2017

the ann thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2028648.0


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: VFabio on August 21, 2017, 12:28:49 PM
Too many scams... Or too many greedy people trying to make speculation profits.

Without people investing in scam there wouldn't be any. You don't get pulled over the barrel, you let somebody pull you over.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Waldozaur12 on August 21, 2017, 01:43:52 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results

Hello! We understand your frustration. But don't lose your interest and motivation! Every month we see projects with real products that deal with real problems. You just have to keep looking! And on a side note, let me tell you something, since the very foundation of our project, as a core team, we set a goal for us: no matter what happens with the ICO, no matter how much money we raise, we want to finish our product. We want to bring to the world because we believe in it and it's perspectives.



Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: themathiasmiller on August 21, 2017, 01:52:02 PM
Too many scams... Or too many greedy people trying to make speculation profits.

Without people investing in scam there wouldn't be any. You don't get pulled over the barrel, you let somebody pull you over.

Exactly you won't get scammed if you won't allow people to scam you. What I'm trying to say is if you will do your research and not go for coins that will give you impossible amount of profit in just a little time then you and your money will be safe.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: TonixGaming_14 on August 21, 2017, 01:54:55 PM
Well, there were also many good ICO that could earn a lot of money. Adex, Tenxpay example. Coming soon  Comsa.

It is a good new to here that we can earn lot of money but we cannot say that we earn will be vanished.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: shimbark123 on August 21, 2017, 01:59:07 PM
Well partly it is your fault because you did not first know the capabilities of that project you are investing on. You should first read the whole whitepaper of that ico, so that you will get away from that so called "scam." Also try to have someone to signal you to buy that coin.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: bhoybitcoin on August 21, 2017, 02:05:40 PM
Its best to use Google and search if the ICO is a scam or not. My friend, you have to be careful. You need to use your entire resort to know if the ICO is legit.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Mallyx on August 21, 2017, 02:10:40 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results

Except for some obvious red flags, how can you know ?

Too many scams... Or too many greedy people trying to make speculation profits.

Without people investing in scam there wouldn't be any. You don't get pulled over the barrel, you let somebody pull you over.

This. The issue is not the scammers, but the peoples getting scammed.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: KluFf on August 21, 2017, 02:21:12 PM
before you click OK.
in investing ..
Ask some People here in Bitcointalk
if they know where to invest so you
wont be scammed
then check the reviews ..
don't be easy go lucky.
just be carefull next time.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: bravehearth0319 on August 21, 2017, 03:05:03 PM
I agree that there are a lot of ICOs lately and it's possible that some of them might not return the investment, but the right ones can pay you for all the rest and much more. It's a high risk - high reward investment and I'm afraid that it's not possible to reduce risks with the same profit possibility and pick just the winners.
I definitely agreed that most of the ICO project are scam, but I noticed something in the ICO that almost ICO token under by ethereum are mostly became successfull after the whole campaign end. And got their earnings in their to that ICO, Meaning those ico whose under ethereum erc20 are good to participate anyway.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Uhde on August 21, 2017, 03:16:26 PM
I agree that there are a lot of ICOs lately and it's possible that some of them might not return the investment, but the right ones can pay you for all the rest and much more. It's a high risk - high reward investment and I'm afraid that it's not possible to reduce risks with the same profit possibility and pick just the winners.
I definitely agreed that most of the ICO project are scam, but I noticed something in the ICO that almost ICO token under by ethereum are mostly became successfull after the whole campaign end. And got their earnings in their to that ICO, Meaning those ico whose under ethereum erc20 are good to participate anyway.

I agree more or less. It is risky but you can get good returns at the end. Actually we should ask what does investor want. A valuable digital coin or a good project. Because even some scam project had valuable coins and investors got very good returns. On the other hand there are some projects with a very good team and good ideas but the digital assets they distributed are not valuable at all.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Pamadar on August 21, 2017, 03:26:52 PM
Well partly it is your fault because you did not first know the capabilities of that project you are investing on. You should first read the whole whitepaper of that ico, so that you will get away from that so called "scam." Also try to have someone to signal you to buy that coin.
that should be considered its our own money so better to research deeper before taking the risk as many project become scam its better to take this
precaution look who's behind the project and make sure that they are trusted people that have real identity so they can really answer if failure happens.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Morphling on August 21, 2017, 04:04:10 PM
the market is so hot that everyone wants to earn quick money from it, not only the investor but also the team, so they raise money with just an idea and when they get money ,they will not do real work, thats why so many scam


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Karmakid on August 21, 2017, 04:07:15 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results

I really have no idea on which ICO is best to invest to, but I think you should consider the bounty manager, the team, and developers who are in the project. Most likely those who already have established their name would less likely SCAM people because their name is on the plate. Just check thoroughly before investing.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Lanatsa on August 21, 2017, 04:14:30 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results
Scams cant really be avoided and this is really happening on ICO field. If theres a good potential ICO then expect there would be a trash or scam. This is why we should really be keen on selecting a good project and i do really say its the hardest thing as an investor on hunting a good one.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: lakimens on August 21, 2017, 04:19:43 PM
I'll give you a legit one if you want: Presearch.io
It's not a scam, but I'll tell you right now, even before you read it, it's hard to compete with Google.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: metagry on August 21, 2017, 04:23:32 PM
It is clever to join a project already in operation before ICO
Can distinguish PMF sprouts


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: DevelopmentBank on August 21, 2017, 04:51:41 PM
I feel you. Its easy to get lost in the promise of ICOs. You have to be really detail oriented and read the ICO white paper, background check the founders, etc. One good rule to always ask yourself is "will this coin be useful/adopted by many?"


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: YS84 on August 21, 2017, 05:22:55 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results
Yes, many ICO s are scams. But cryptogene is not a scam, it’s a good project handling by an experienced team. Read their whitepaper, then you will understand how it is.  I suggest you invest in it. The Pre-ico already began on 10th August and will finish in 2 more days. Hurry up to invest in it. Don’t lose the chance.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Qartersa on August 21, 2017, 05:23:37 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results

ICOs are the new ponzi schemes (not really ponzi, but more of the in-thing in the scammer circle). I do hope people get a lot more educated in terms of what ICOs are, what they do, and how to detect legit ones from the scams. To be honest, there are really a lot of tell tale signs that would give hints of whether it is a scam or not.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Geleve on August 21, 2017, 05:34:17 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results

ICOs are the new ponzi schemes (not really ponzi, but more of the in-thing in the scammer circle). I do hope people get a lot more educated in terms of what ICOs are, what they do, and how to detect legit ones from the scams. To be honest, there are really a lot of tell tale signs that would give hints of whether it is a scam or not.

I dont think people care if they are ponzi or not. Actually all crypto world and blockchain system itself is overrated and so open to any ponzi attempt.
All people care is earning money and exit. They dont care if the project is scam or not. They care only if they will be able to make profit buying their digital asset or not.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: winspiral on August 21, 2017, 05:35:07 PM
Not too many scam...scam are not so many...but too many people who can not see what scam is...

if people see me as a scammer,I understand that they fall in scam.(lol)


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: taibas on August 22, 2017, 04:59:35 AM
Not too many scam...scam are not so many...but too many people who can not see what scam is...

if people see me as a scammer,I understand that they fall in scam.(lol)
I do not see people from outside, like you. You have a lot of negative trusts, but not necessarily people who have positive trust better than you, in this world too many lies, so scammers are very trustworthy


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: tsaroz on August 22, 2017, 05:06:42 AM
Not too many scam...scam are not so many...but too many people who can not see what scam is...

if people see me as a scammer,I understand that they fall in scam.(lol)
I do not see people from outside, like you. You have a lot of negative trusts, but not necessarily people who have positive trust better than you, in this world too many lies, so scammers are very trustworthy

Almost everything is a scam. It's all about how long people trust them.
Bitcoin too is often called a scam, but as it has a large community that trust upon it, it goes on.
Same goes with every other currencies and tokens.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Anonaneadone on August 22, 2017, 05:57:41 AM
Its hard to trust ICO now because many of them is scam so choose wisely and the trusted one so there is no more regret


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Weawant on August 22, 2017, 06:09:46 AM
Not too many scam...scam are not so many...but too many people who can not see what scam is...

if people see me as a scammer,I understand that they fall in scam.(lol)
I do not see people from outside, like you. You have a lot of negative trusts, but not necessarily people who have positive trust better than you, in this world too many lies, so scammers are very trustworthy

Almost everything is a scam. It's all about how long people trust them.
Bitcoin too is often called a scam, but as it has a large community that trust upon it, it goes on.
Same goes with every other currencies and tokens.

That's why we shouldn't intend to hold any ICO coins nowadays since there are the one who mostly get died when they will be added on exchange for long time around and we should be more wiser upon trading this and be more carefull since there's no exact time that their pump in dump well be happen so better we should stick around and monitor whenever we have some shitcoins holded to our wallets.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Chefironside on August 22, 2017, 06:28:41 AM
everyone is responsible for themselves
It is also very easy to get money here Many people, however, do not think before
The deceivers see it is so simple
Too many projects, nobody guaranty success
I think its wise to read and research about a certain project before you can even consider investing
Make sure they really have realistic goals.
There is whitepaper, website, team, and so on to validate the truth of the project.
If you are not sure do not invest . I only invest small sums in ico. If everything goes well I'll buy more later


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: abdulmad on August 22, 2017, 06:29:27 AM
Ill only invest in ICO when they have a working product to offer, presale, crowdsale  no thank you, i've seen to many tears of late where ICO's fell victim to wallet hacks. I have a couple of coins in STRATIS and WAVES but never got involved with any pre or token sales.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: indrakusumaindra on August 22, 2017, 06:30:37 AM
yes i agree, too many scam that makes other ico become doubted to invest in. despite so many scam there is so much ico that good to invest in.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Jenn09 on August 22, 2017, 06:31:17 AM
Well, Scam in this world is everywhere so its your choice if you want to be scam or not. Maybe before getting into something serious or involving your money you did many research before hand or ask anyone for feedback of this kind of alt coins is worthy to be invested to, But if you are a risk taker go for what you believe & hoping for good outcome.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Kidmat on August 22, 2017, 07:01:16 AM
yes i agree, too many scam that makes other ico become doubted to invest in. despite so many scam there is so much ico that good to invest in.

There are many scam Ico and there are also good Ico to invest. Before investing let us do some research what iCO are worth to invest. So we dont have regret later on and we can earn profit. Thus, get some information about their project if it is good invest.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: gbfoxbat on August 22, 2017, 08:35:11 AM
Ill only invest in ICO when they have a working product to offer, presale, crowdsale  no thank you, i've seen to many tears of late where ICO's fell victim to wallet hacks. I have a couple of coins in STRATIS and WAVES but never got involved with any pre or token sales.

How would you rate Tezos who raised quite a bit of money in the past weeks...record breaking so far.

Thxs


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: anylic on August 22, 2017, 08:42:12 AM
You can find out about the ICO project that I am wearing signature, they have a platform and product transparency, the information is updated regularly. Or you can pm me and I will introduce a few projects for you :)


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: asepsetiawan1990 on August 22, 2017, 09:01:28 AM
anything can happen. Scam or not is not something that happens because of one factor. It happens because of many factors. But that is a risk that must be accepted. If Scam then loss. But if successful then the profit in can be quite high.  ;D


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: BitcoinsGreat on August 22, 2017, 03:30:42 PM
As long as you guys continue to feed into the rumors and follow people that cannot be trusted there are going to be scams and they're going to be profitable for the people that are running them. It's time that you shift your trust to a group that can actually be trusted. The same thing has been happening here for months months and even years. The trust has been placed in the wrong places and placed there for the wrong reasons.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: carrie_white on August 22, 2017, 04:57:34 PM
It is very difficult to determine which ico is going to succeed and which is not, but there are some things to see, at least ico projects that do a scam can be avoided, first look at the project team and team manager, if clear and they are experienced people in previous projects , Then it can be trusted, secondly, look at the idea of the project is it realistic, the third whether its allocation of funds makes sense


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: nrvasquez on August 22, 2017, 05:05:30 PM
Too many projects, nobody guaranty success, ICO's are not perfect solutions for funding, and they are inefficient in the long run. I won't mentions those scams, this is risk you are going to take when you involves in this.

Yes, not all ICOs will run smoothly and successfully, you really need to be able to choose a good ICO, note some important aspects that may have a major impact on ICO's success such as the Team that handles ICO and all kinds of allocations they make.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: cryptoquake101 on August 22, 2017, 05:08:44 PM
Everything is a scam until it works just do your research and pick your investments wisely.
Ask your self these questions

1. Is this ICO realistic and legal?
2. Is the dev team transparent and upfront?
3. Does this ICO have a road map and goals?
4. Are they reasonably available for questioning and active on there media platforms

If you cant answer all these with a yes its best to stay away from it.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: vectisitch on August 22, 2017, 05:14:29 PM
crypto is rife with scams. why would you invest your hard earned money in something with a high degree of risk that it will be a scam.

why not join in on Deeponions airdrop? it has been called a scam by some but they have been prooven wrong. there is no financial outlay. a weekly airdrop over 40 weeks(5 already done).

no financial outlay means no risk. you get free coins each week for very little time.

you can't sell more than 10% of the airdropped coins or you will be excluded from the following weeks. so there is a good incentive to hold,meaning the price should stay up. it's had a fantastic start so far.

why not click the link in my signature to get in? no risk


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: nomenclatur on August 22, 2017, 06:44:32 PM
crypto is rife with scams. why would you invest your hard earned money in something with a high degree of risk that it will be a scam.

why not join in on Deeponions airdrop? it has been called a scam by some but they have been prooven wrong. there is no financial outlay. a weekly airdrop over 40 weeks(5 already done).

no financial outlay means no risk. you get free coins each week for very little time.

you can't sell more than 10% of the airdropped coins or you will be excluded from the following weeks. so there is a good incentive to hold,meaning the price should stay up. it's had a fantastic start so far.

why not click the link in my signature to get in? no risk

Everyone's investment choices are relative, and I have a different attitude to it, I happen to not follow the deepnion and choose to invest in other coins.

Give me some proof of ico scam, as I know some failed ico sales always refund all investor funds, almost no one really scams this year. There have been cases such as phishing sites via email from slackbot lately and some web hit by ddos, but back to our understanding to be more vigilant in terms of investment.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: electricretard on August 22, 2017, 08:04:15 PM
90% of everything in this world is a scam, not just in crypto, in the world, everything. Almost everything is some kind of racket, scam or ponzi with the goal to get you to willingly part with your money and not receive anything in return. And as long as there are people who fall for the scams, there will always be scammers.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: gbfoxbat on August 23, 2017, 05:33:50 AM
Its amazing the amount of ICO's that are being launched everyday or every week....some of the ideas and whitepapers being presented are simply hairbrained


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: klixion on August 23, 2017, 06:47:59 AM
The days of icos making 5 to 10 times your investment on the first day it hits the exchanges are very rare these days.  There's just way too many projects now and a lot are very similar to each other. 


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: VanDeinsberg12 on August 23, 2017, 07:24:54 AM
The days of icos making 5 to 10 times your investment on the first day it hits the exchanges are very rare these days.  There's just way too many projects now and a lot are very similar to each other. 
I already made over 10x from some icos. But the icos was having a purpose to be a place to flip our money. But some people just have a role to be the sales and try to sold their coin with the more price in the exchange sites. That was i already known.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: gbfoxbat on August 23, 2017, 07:32:17 AM
The days of icos making 5 to 10 times your investment on the first day it hits the exchanges are very rare these days.  There's just way too many projects now and a lot are very similar to each other. 

Well I dont think so it all depends on what the whole project is all about if it is sustainable or not in a long run. In my opinion this short term thinking of making gains fast is slowly correcting itself and probably focus on sustainability.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: winspiral on August 23, 2017, 08:17:11 AM
90% of everything in this world is a scam, not just in crypto, in the world, everything. Almost everything is some kind of racket, scam or ponzi with the goal to get you to willingly part with your money and not receive anything in return. And as long as there are people who fall for the scams, there will always be scammers.

People prefer "dreams" and "scams".
People are not interested in realistic system like my U2.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: TehJoker on August 23, 2017, 08:23:36 AM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results
;D stay away from ICO... that is give someone money and say they give back more money to you.... Have ur friend lend u money.. does all give back money to u?


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: gbfoxbat on August 23, 2017, 08:41:25 AM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results
;D stay away from ICO... that is give someone money and say they give back more money to you.... Have ur friend lend u money.. does all give back money to u?

Important to know from ICO is what is the investor value proposition and that has to be realistic along with the product or idea. That's how things work also in IPO transparency of team, idea etc is the key.

My two cents


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: fb39ca4 on August 23, 2017, 10:03:31 AM
 ;D
I dont see any ICO success in market.. but maybe we must wait till the end of this years to have final view. So when invest ICO should check dev profile, their roadmap, whitepaper to see is it have future.... Any dont hope so much.. Many ICO like bancor, bat .... is almost dying.. as I think


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: TehJoker on August 23, 2017, 10:28:13 AM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results
;D stay away from ICO... that is give someone money and say they give back more money to you.... Have ur friend lend u money.. does all give back money to u?

Important to know from ICO is what is the investor value proposition and that has to be realistic along with the product or idea. That's how things work also in IPO transparency of team, idea etc is the key.

My two cents

 ;D but u dont see any ICO success right?


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: kseniya.pride on August 23, 2017, 11:00:47 AM
People! I found the whole list of SCAMS!!!  >:(

----> http://icoindex.com/index/scam


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: doedz on August 23, 2017, 02:27:25 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results
;D stay away from ICO... that is give someone money and say they give back more money to you.... Have ur friend lend u money.. does all give back money to u?

Important to know from ICO is what is the investor value proposition and that has to be realistic along with the product or idea. That's how things work also in IPO transparency of team, idea etc is the key.

My two cents
See the team who joined ICO, everyone has a linkedin account. You will know the planning and design of a project.
Also check escrow for secure funds / money.
In addition many people are irresponsible and say Scam has no proof.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: notyours on August 23, 2017, 03:23:45 PM
Yes many scams are already in ICO- Initial Coin Offering.
Bitcointalk Admin would have to take action for it because many people have been robbed.

And if it will continue. People may lose interest.
But there are still some good ones. Like my Altcoins campaign today.

You can view it here: https://aventus.io/


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Chefironside on August 24, 2017, 11:46:20 AM
Yes many scams are already in ICO- Initial Coin Offering.
Bitcointalk Admin would have to take action for it because many people have been robbed.

And if it will continue. People may lose interest.
But there are still some good ones. Like my Altcoins campaign today.

You can view it here: https://aventus.io/
You know the people of aventus personally ?
If it does not work you give us the money again ? For the guarantee, we need your name and address .
Then we can in the event that something happens the money with you pick up  ;D  ;D
It is good to recommend something if you know the people .
It is not so good if you do not know the people .
Trust only if you know the people


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Baofeng on September 04, 2017, 07:22:39 PM
As a result of too many ICO scam, the Chinese have decided to ban ICO as well. And this has trigger waves of panic selling right now, causing the price of every coin to drop fast including bitcoin and eth. Most impacted were the largest ICO tokens, with OmiseGo and Qtum declining from total market values of above $1 billion earlier this week to $781 million and $638 million today. Even USA and I read that South Korea as well releasing a announcement regarding scam ICO. The Chinese believes that that many ICOs are just "wearing a vest of legitimacy," while in essence, they are illegal fundraising. In short it is a scam. Its gonna be a long day for most of us in the crypto and seeing the market going in red, its a bloodbath Monday.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: AweJohn on September 10, 2017, 05:39:37 PM
It's a 24/7 job today to find and investigate ico's !!
You can't just invest in a ICO just becouse you read somewhere, that some guy said that ICO is great, solit
and you will make a lot if you invest in it...
If you do the hard work and you are lucky on top of it, you will make money,
if you are slacking off when it comes to reviewing the ICO, well then you deserve to lose some money !


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: BitHell.io on September 10, 2017, 05:47:03 PM
Most of ICO's nowdays are launch to scam people and their money's but with garbage there are some good and trusted ICO's in which investing is may profitable, like cryptogene and notary


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: mastadonballs on September 10, 2017, 07:52:02 PM
Most of ICO's nowdays are launch to scam people and their money's but with garbage there are some good and trusted ICO's in which investing is may profitable, like cryptogene and notary
But how to know an ICO project is scammer trusted project? Do you know some methods help me know that? It always a problem makes me does not know where is best place for invest my money or join to bounty signature campaign.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: SvenBomvolen on September 10, 2017, 08:02:24 PM
You have to look in the most idea of the ICO to see it's chances for success, there is no need to buy just to buy cheaper with the expectation of sooner big pump of the price. Scammers use your greedy against you and promise a lot, but it's only to hook you and take all of your money and spend the remaining life on a private island. I have invested in couple of ICOs this summer, but only cause of I liked the idea and I thought it is going to be popular.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Lanatsa on September 10, 2017, 08:05:07 PM
Most of ICO's nowdays are launch to scam people and their money's but with garbage there are some good and trusted ICO's in which investing is may profitable, like cryptogene and notary
But how to know an ICO project is scammer trusted project? Do you know some methods help me know that? It always a problem makes me does not know where is best place for invest my money or join to bounty signature campaign.
This is always the thing which people do make struggles on selecting the best project or ICO.We wont even know if they would succeed or not. This is why proper research or investigations would really be a good step for you to increase your chance on hitting the right project. Yes there are lots of scams in the market as of now and identifying them is somehow hard already.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Qtrez on September 10, 2017, 08:06:33 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results


experience that often plays a role to assess the correct ico. If you often invest for ico, it means you have plenty of experience for it. assess which scam or who has the future.

so I think that's a matter of judgment and knowledge. no more than that.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: matthona on September 10, 2017, 08:21:23 PM
There is no doubt that nowadays there are many scams available in digital world but if you have a good knowledge and if you do proper homework then you will never get trapped in those scams as you need to do a good research before investing in any ICO or other investment sites.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: equator on September 10, 2017, 08:53:15 PM
There is no doubt that nowadays there are many scams available in digital world but if you have a good knowledge and if you do proper homework then you will never get trapped in those scams as you need to do a good research before investing in any ICO or other investment sites.

If you wanted the real profit then you have to wait for more then 8 months before getting in a altcoin ICOS because their are lot of ICO which are giving false information and when listed just pump and dump and leave the coin when dumped.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Turk Ace on September 10, 2017, 09:09:00 PM
I also see this so much. Or bounties that never pay. The likes the Devs tell or they talk about doing things that just can't be done like taking on Microsoft for example. I'm not sure why people fall for it and believe these thieves.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: irmasany on September 10, 2017, 09:18:48 PM

yes it is commonplace because ico absorb enough funds.
some are deceiving and some have a future.
I think all can be seen from the team, dev and the concept of aquality.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: DanWagner on September 10, 2017, 09:38:29 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results


experience that often plays a role to assess the correct ico. If you often invest for ico, it means you have plenty of experience for it. assess which scam or who has the future.

so I think that's a matter of judgment and knowledge. no more than that.
Yeah but alot of people can't make that call and need the government to protect them.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: makulo123 on September 10, 2017, 09:45:25 PM
Scams can be can be hidden like crap or can be really good masked. In both cases the scam is a malicious activity. The well hidden scam are the ones making millions from scamming investors and the easily exposed are the ones being on the public shame... It's really sad what can happen if a investor puts so much fate into a scam.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: SvenBomvolen on September 10, 2017, 10:02:39 PM
Although there are different options how to make money on bitcoin, but it is still widely recognized that a long-term investments are the best. However, to make the right choice between many tokens is difficult.
There are many undervalued coins offering anonymity to users, and the most popular are ZCash  and Monero. I think ZCash positioned itself as one of the winners. It is very popular, carefully designed, has high security and limited number. Frozen prices for this alt indicates that traders accumulate it.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Insanerman on September 10, 2017, 10:06:49 PM
Scams can be can be hidden like crap or can be really good masked. In both cases the scam is a malicious activity. The well hidden scam are the ones making millions from scamming investors and the easily exposed are the ones being on the public shame... It's really sad what can happen if a investor puts so much fate into a scam.


Well scams are proliferating. Since these ICO's started and this is not regulated, anyone can think of any coin  and sell it. Just be careful, invest only to those tangible projects with real developer and real projects.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: ubeng07 on September 10, 2017, 10:44:28 PM
Most of ICO's nowdays are launch to scam people and their money's but with garbage there are some good and trusted ICO's in which investing is may profitable, like cryptogene and notary
But how to know an ICO project is scammer trusted project? Do you know some methods help me know that? It always a problem makes me does not know where is best place for invest my money or join to bounty signature campaign.
This is always the thing which people do make struggles on selecting the best project or ICO.We wont even know if they would succeed or not. This is why proper research or investigations would really be a good step for you to increase your chance on hitting the right project. Yes there are lots of scams in the market as of now and identifying them is somehow hard already.
I think there is no such thing or method that we can use to know if that is scam or not I strongly agree with proper research and investigating on that particular project is a must that you can do for you to be not be scammed.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Inkdatar on September 10, 2017, 10:52:37 PM
Scams can be can be hidden like crap or can be really good masked. In both cases the scam is a malicious activity. The well hidden scam are the ones making millions from scamming investors and the easily exposed are the ones being on the public shame... It's really sad what can happen if a investor puts so much fate into a scam.


Well scams are proliferating. Since these ICO's started and this is not regulated, anyone can think of any coin  and sell it. Just be careful, invest only to those tangible projects with real developer and real projects.
Yes scam can be hidden just to scam other investors. Because there are many scammers with regards to ICO so we need to do some research before investing. A lot to consider before investing like the roadmap, unique project goal.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: BitHell.io on September 11, 2017, 03:05:44 AM
Most of ICO's nowdays are launch to scam people and their money's but with garbage there are some good and trusted ICO's in which investing is may profitable, like cryptogene and notary
But how to know an ICO project is scammer trusted project? Do you know some methods help me know that? It always a problem makes me does not know where is best place for invest my money or join to bounty signature campaign.
This is always the thing which people do make struggles on selecting the best project or ICO.We wont even know if they would succeed or not. This is why proper research or investigations would really be a good step for you to increase your chance on hitting the right project. Yes there are lots of scams in the market as of now and identifying them is somehow hard already.
I think there is no such thing or method that we can use to know if that is scam or not I strongly agree with proper research and investigating on that particular project is a must that you can do for you to be not be scammed.
yes there are some projects which looks like they are very and very trusted but at the end of project they scam people by saying we got hacked, our team is not available now and many other wrong arguments,. Like minexcoin is doing now.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: winspiral on September 11, 2017, 08:38:13 AM
the problem is not too many scam,the problem is to many people fall in scam.
Why?
Because they can not make the difference among scams and not scams.
The ones who see scams almost every where are the ones who fall in scams.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: HardFireMiner on September 11, 2017, 09:23:38 AM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results

Welcome to the crypto world where everything is fake and most are scammers.

As of now, I don't know any good ICO, the only one that draw attention to me is Maecenas with Pantera Capital investing a huge load of money in it. I am not sure about it but I think it may return good money.

Please, do not buy ANY ICO, ICO = scammy distribution model. Buy it only if there is a legit company with real developers, known for their past work, only if they are accountable and with proper authorizations from financial authorities. Otherwise you will be scammed.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: inthelongrun on September 11, 2017, 09:27:30 AM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results

Choose the ones that are featured in reliable and famous cyrptocurrency publications. Consider also the ones that are listed on top ICO lists as well as other ICO tracking sites. And of course, the most important thing is that you should do your share of investigation as to the truthfulness of the project. Eventchain is one of them. Check it out!


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: MBworld on September 11, 2017, 10:01:59 AM
too many scams in ICO world also , but one project that stands apart is Ambrosus describes itself as “the world’s first trusted food ecosystem.” The system involves a combination of high-tech sensors, blockchain technology, and smart contracts to create an immutable record of transactions in the food industry.

The ultimate goal of Ambrosus is to assure the quality, safety, and origins of food. Instead of trusting manufacturers to be truthful about the origins of your food, you can check the Ambrosus blockchain to see exactly where the food came from.

Ambrosus was founded in 2016. The company is based in Switzerland and is supported by the United Nations.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Bes19 on September 11, 2017, 10:06:34 AM
There are too many scam and scammer in the world so you need to research before you join something. There are also good ICO project here that you can choose from. But i suggest don't invest in new ICO's coz most of them are
either fail or a scam.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: VPoro on September 11, 2017, 10:09:07 AM
I always invest to ICO had many people join. Not be the first is my rule


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: ananasMarco on September 11, 2017, 10:56:29 AM
ICOs are just too easily set up and too hard to verify its ethical standards - most really don't care. bit of an unfortunate mix of both buyers and sellers only caring about money.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Specterminate on September 11, 2017, 11:04:09 AM
make sure to do a thorough research before investing
who are the founders? what is the product? is there a prototype? etc.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: erox on September 11, 2017, 11:30:07 AM
I think in near future the number of scam ico's will unfortunately only grow.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: asdosoasd on September 11, 2017, 11:33:14 AM
I see the people who answer that a SCAM and in this moment try to advertise  project. Man only yours opinion play role. Study the project and monitor it. Itself you will see everything.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: greyeye on September 11, 2017, 11:44:12 AM
It's unlikely that the most ICO are aiming to scam people from start, however even with well intentions to be successful for the long run, most will fail just as real business would.

What protection does one have against the founders, if the business fails? In a real world, a business cannot do IPO on the large stock market unless they meet some strict guide lines. IPO doesnt guaranty the price to stay or even rocket higher, but you have a reasonably well established business behind the IPO.
Compare to IPO, ICO is more like Venture Capitals but while VC may review the business plans and even oversees the operations once the fund goes in (as a form of directors or board members), ICO you get nothing.

Is it an investment or a gamble?


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Lanatsa on September 11, 2017, 02:35:45 PM
Most of ICO's nowdays are launch to scam people and their money's but with garbage there are some good and trusted ICO's in which investing is may profitable, like cryptogene and notary
But how to know an ICO project is scammer trusted project? Do you know some methods help me know that? It always a problem makes me does not know where is best place for invest my money or join to bounty signature campaign.
This is always the thing which people do make struggles on selecting the best project or ICO.We wont even know if they would succeed or not. This is why proper research or investigations would really be a good step for you to increase your chance on hitting the right project. Yes there are lots of scams in the market as of now and identifying them is somehow hard already.
I think there is no such thing or method that we can use to know if that is scam or not I strongly agree with proper research and investigating on that particular project is a must that you can do for you to be not be scammed.
yes there are some projects which looks like they are very and very trusted but at the end of project they scam people by saying we got hacked, our team is not available now and many other wrong arguments,. Like minexcoin is doing now.
This is the hardest part on which do possibly happen on this field because no matter how hard we do research or investigating things we can still possibly choose the wrong one and as being said there are projects run  well when it was just starting but later on they do have lots of excuses already which do really sucks this is why risk is always there and possibilities of getting scammed cant really be removed.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Jiyens3 on September 11, 2017, 04:19:42 PM
Most of ICO's nowdays are launch to scam people and their money's but with garbage there are some good and trusted ICO's in which investing is may profitable, like cryptogene and notary
But how to know an ICO project is scammer trusted project? Do you know some methods help me know that? It always a problem makes me does not know where is best place for invest my money or join to bounty signature campaign.
This is always the thing which people do make struggles on selecting the best project or ICO.We wont even know if they would succeed or not. This is why proper research or investigations would really be a good step for you to increase your chance on hitting the right project. Yes there are lots of scams in the market as of now and identifying them is somehow hard already.
I think there is no such thing or method that we can use to know if that is scam or not I strongly agree with proper research and investigating on that particular project is a must that you can do for you to be not be scammed.
yes there are some projects which looks like they are very and very trusted but at the end of project they scam people by saying we got hacked, our team is not available now and many other wrong arguments,. Like minexcoin is doing now.
This is the hardest part on which do possibly happen on this field because no matter how hard we do research or investigating things we can still possibly choose the wrong one and as being said there are projects run  well when it was just starting but later on they do have lots of excuses already which do really sucks this is why risk is always there and possibilities of getting scammed cant really be removed.
yeah ussually i see the project scam or no from web design, team, escrow, fundraiser and news about a project . if over all good i'm believe and invest on it
i hope can minimize there is scam project


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: SolomonSollarsNSense on November 21, 2018, 11:25:42 PM
The initial coin offering is a technique used by scammers to take advantage of the fact that people, in general, do not entirely analyse the coin and its technicalities along with the fact that they are attracted to make quick money, and in the greed of making quick money they invest in any ICO and they get scammed. That's why it is always said research before investing.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: bitcoin31 on November 21, 2018, 11:27:58 PM
Too many scam happen here in cryptocurrency.  We need to be vigilant when we invesy our money or capital we have. Remember once you invest to ICO make sure that is extra money only that you think that your money grow.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: makadaka on November 21, 2018, 11:29:52 PM
I do not see a standing project right now that would really interest me and I would invest in it so I cannot advise you anything


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: iancortis on November 21, 2018, 11:37:05 PM
almost projects today are losing their investments, thats why maybe there's a project that has extensions in their ico sale to reached the set goal and maybe thay want out in the market that has stabilizing lines to bullish market.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: mel1978 on November 21, 2018, 11:37:20 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results
Maybe it is natural to have many scam because crypto now is very in demand in our industry.  I mean a lot of people are noe ingaging in crypto because it gives high earnings. For me in order to avoid scam br attentive and always be updated to crypto issue and do not invest to project which you are not sure of. Think of it first.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: otong on November 22, 2018, 12:19:48 AM
Indeed, for now there are too many fraudulent projects. and of course this is very detrimental to many people. because they all could lose their money so quickly.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: pedpedped101 on November 22, 2018, 12:30:01 AM
When it comes to investing in ICO it might be dangerous or will I say difficult to get the right one by asking people and this is why many people fall as victim of scam because how sure are you to know if the person you asked is involved in good ICO project but in this aspect you also have the opportunity to go online to get proper research in what ever ICO you want to get involved with. White paper can help to give the right choice.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Otsu on November 22, 2018, 12:41:50 AM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results
Yeah. Nowadays, there are a lot of scam ICO's in the crypto field. I wonder on how to eliminate this things inorder for all people to have confidence again to invest and participate in every token sales. If this will continue ahead, for sure cryptocurrency will go down.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Philippines on November 22, 2018, 12:51:19 AM
Yet there are a lot of scam ICO but some of them are also good ICO which you can earn money in the future . Most ICO who didn't reached the target sometimes fall into scam .


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Bitcoincole on November 22, 2018, 01:29:04 AM
It cannot hide the fact that more of the ICO's are scam compared to the legitimate ICO having possessing with a good intentions towards the digital assets. What we are going to do to make a campaign that is legit is make a good research so that you can guarantee a good campaign.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: pungopete468 on November 24, 2018, 08:42:12 AM
indeed for now there have been a lot of projects that have experienced price declines or are doing fraud. this indeed makes a lot of people disappointed and also trust decreases against ico or investment


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: tridverju on November 24, 2018, 12:23:57 PM
The problem is that people are blindly investing in every project, thats the reason why there are so many scams at the moment. Just make a good investigation by your own and I assure you, that you won't get tricked with a good research.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: pitedsarat on November 24, 2018, 01:27:43 PM
I lost a lot on altcoins this year


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: baigreen on November 24, 2018, 01:32:46 PM
Yes. fraudsters completely insolent. Feel their impunity. And kill the whole market. When they will take for them. I think they should be severely punished.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: paradigmaV on November 24, 2018, 01:40:20 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results

I suspect that the era of ICO is coming to an end. I think that next year there will be no public sales. Will be large investors funds that will not engage in speculation. Any project needs time to develop. A lot of fraud will be as long as there is private investment. Speculators are harmful to the market and for projects.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: markalis on November 24, 2018, 01:41:40 PM
yes, there must be clear regulations that regulate it so that no more greedy people try to destroy the cryptocurrency from the boast they made


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: fortunecrypto on November 24, 2018, 01:59:13 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results

Not only scam ICO that you need to watch out but failed project as well and the risk of not getting your funds from this failed ICO, two things that really harmed our industry and investors are now very choosy and just wait for the right time when there are no more failed or scam project that they avoid.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: basici on November 24, 2018, 02:02:35 PM
I sincerely hope that this problem will be solved soon and we will be able to make money again in the start-up market in 2019


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Sethrey on November 24, 2018, 02:12:01 PM
As for me I would not believe any advice here as scammers can be between us also promoting their product.
Before investing it's a must to make a research. Look for reviews and ask for the opinion about certain ICOs you've chosen.
Hope you'll not get into scam. it's really a disaster these days.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Yshakov.v on November 24, 2018, 02:27:39 PM
I think that this year there have been few successful projects. Now everyone wants to create their own cryptocurrency. I think it won't be good.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: karmapala on November 24, 2018, 02:28:39 PM
I think what exactly is the ico scam project? Isn't a project deavteam always wanting the listing coin. But maybe a certain reason. For example, the cost is running out so the coin fails to register. but isn't there a refund for those who have bought the icon ..


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: zedaq on November 24, 2018, 02:41:21 PM
There are a lot of projects, it is certainly a terribly serious situation that creates terrible destruction in the market, many investors who still believe in the market invest in projects that can simply disappear.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: porebertaeiru on November 24, 2018, 02:43:04 PM
nowadays it seems scam ico were everywhere, we just needs to be very careful at all times


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: berstabfido on November 24, 2018, 02:45:09 PM
I don't see any reason for invest into altcoins


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: jpnl0005 on November 24, 2018, 02:47:52 PM
I am irritated at the way scam and scammers are making the market so uncomfortable and not trustworthy for investors to invest in ico I honestly to wish this can be eradicated so things can at least be the way they were


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: ostrogoto2012 on November 24, 2018, 03:01:51 PM
I lost a lot on altcoins this year
I think not only you lost alot altcoins this year. Many people here like you. I lost enough too. Unfortunately now can find alot scamm projects and need be very carreful.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: ameliana on November 24, 2018, 03:52:44 PM
I lost a lot on altcoins this year
I think not only you lost alot altcoins this year. Many people here like you. I lost enough too. Unfortunately now can find alot scamm projects and need be very carreful.
I also included people who lost a lot because of the ICO and because of the market decline. but with this I have gained valuable experience that we should not be careless at all in choosing ICO or coins. and we also have to always prepare ourselves if the market goes down so we know what to do if it really happens.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Convery on November 24, 2018, 03:54:46 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results
Better is to avoid ICOs in these bad times, they have really big problem with collecitng enough money, so they use aggressive marketing strategies and thats not good.
But there are some good ICOs, that are not affected by the market, like ICONIQ LAB.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: graminfodiff on November 24, 2018, 05:03:16 PM
In this market, I would not sell anything


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Miklight88 on November 24, 2018, 05:28:11 PM
While some busy making the technology to be great some are busy spoiling it, and thinking of only money , this will be a great mistake if some people greediness damage this great opportunity that has happened to mankind.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: halpi on November 24, 2018, 05:33:20 PM
That means only that you are not good in this sphere. That is not easy to choose the right ICO that will give you money in years but to consider which ICO is scum is not a big problem


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Everglow on November 24, 2018, 05:38:29 PM
Whether it's a good ICOs, at this point in the year it's hard to keep up at ICO prices. Some inadequate maintenance funds will result in scam, which is inevitable.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Screamshot on November 24, 2018, 05:41:18 PM
So many ico scam around of late the cryptocurrency world is decentralized and there is no regulations on ico project coming into the system so it's for investors to act wise and safely


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Sivainvest on November 24, 2018, 05:44:54 PM
People are greedy and lazy. When they get easy money from ICO, lot of them just stop working. That is the cause of scam.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: baeva2 on November 24, 2018, 05:50:32 PM
I agree that most ICO projects are scam. But still you can really find a real project and promising if you carefully study it and hear the opinion of competent people about it.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Gasolindance on November 24, 2018, 05:58:12 PM
It's true that most part of ICO's  just simple scams. You should to check the information abot campaigns and use special help about it from people, who know about situation.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: didzi on November 24, 2018, 06:06:02 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results

for now, its hard to find a good ICO
we must do a deep research before decided to invest in ICO,, check all the team, the tech and what kind of features inside the project my friend
most of ICO are scam now, but i believe not all ICO scam  ;)


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: mamesso on November 24, 2018, 06:08:23 PM
let's build ico well, all need strict rules and policies. now ico is easy to find but it is difficult to find a real project and runs according to the roadmap. erc20 tokens are the disposal of valuable tokens.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: thesosorr on November 24, 2018, 06:13:57 PM
It's hard to guess ICO is scam or not. The average ICO that appears appears to be all good. I think and I applied so far is to see ICO ratings before I join. Do according to friends can be one way to ensure good ICO. Or there is another way that is more accurate.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Zaibraid on November 24, 2018, 06:14:35 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results

for now, its hard to find a good ICO
we must do a deep research before decided to invest in ICO,, check all the team, the tech and what kind of features inside the project my friend
most of ICO are scam now, but i believe not all ICO scam  ;)

Really what you say is that we have to do research and analysis about which ICO we will choose. Indeed we have to spend more time exploring the ICO for our purpose so that we don't take the wrong action. More loss more time at the beginning than in the middle of the journey all our efforts are in vain because ICO scam. The analysis that we do must be in depth and clearly illustrated which includes the strengths and weaknesses faced by the ICO, including the opportunities and threats that exist in the ICO. Although many ICOs are scams but not all of these are scams. There are also some truly ICO responsible. In my opinion, the number of ICO scams is due to a lack of mature planning.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Msile on November 24, 2018, 06:24:59 PM
In an environment as little regulated as this one, it should not be any surprise, it is important to know that the scams usually occur by unscrupulous people and absent-minded users, always it is necessary to take care of the projects that we join, to make our investigation as it is due, not to regret it later.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: yescrypto on November 24, 2018, 06:27:12 PM
I think if you have your money it's highly time you go for trading and invest less in ico because there's no way you are going to escape those scammer trust, the worst is that some ico rating site are probably scams as well even some also fall victim of not knowing some projects enough before rating them. So i will advise you to go less in investing and invest just little you can lose.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: pisston on November 24, 2018, 06:31:14 PM
I think if you have your money it's highly time you go for trading and invest less in ico because there's no way you are going to escape those scammer trust, the worst is that some ico rating site are probably scams as well even some also fall victim of not knowing some projects enough before rating them. So i will advise you to go less in investing and invest just little you can lose.
In fact, today the cryptocurrency market looks extraordinary and unpredictable. In any case, users of cryptocurrency who lack the financing of their household budget should be extremely careful and stop investing in cryptocurrency at this stage of the market decline.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: tranle1267 on November 24, 2018, 06:32:33 PM
i think now the price of crypto market has reduced so deeply, many ICO can buy enough soft cap or temporarily pause the ICO, and finally so much price have lost so they scam.
before we can join in the project, we must find out carefully about the project that we can invest to them


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: tolgahanuzun on November 24, 2018, 06:35:29 PM
Now it is more profitable not to invest in the project at the time of the ICO, but to pick up the coin after entering the exchange. In most cases, the price of coins is trading below the ICO price.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: sarmrakib on November 24, 2018, 06:55:07 PM
Yes I also noticed many bounty campaign has gone to the dust. Scam project always make you greedy to invest on. We need to find good ICO project if we have planned to invest on. You always need to research the project before invest.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: somansy on November 24, 2018, 07:00:08 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results
i am sympathetic with your experience, it is really unpleasant to come across with such thing like cheating when we supposed to be in one boat. i personally feel really insecure when dealing with ICOs


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Winterizing on November 24, 2018, 07:06:22 PM
Well that is why you need to carefully check first the back ground information of the ICO before putting money on to it. Since big money is involved in ICOs there's no doubt that scammers would also use it because we find it as a high return high risk investment.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Lorin on November 24, 2018, 07:54:18 PM
Thats why we need to be careful in choosing ICO project. Scammers are everywhere. Before investing on a project take time to learn and research their background specially if they put a big payment. As investors you need yo be wise because its talking about your money, you dont want to loose it.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Ben Shedly on November 24, 2018, 08:51:11 PM
Well that is why you need to carefully check first the back ground information of the ICO before putting money on to it. Since big money is involved in ICOs there's no doubt that scammers would also use it because we find it as a high return high risk investment.

In addition to a detailed study of the project and its team, you must remember one important rule. If you have even the slightest doubt, do not risk and invest in a new project.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: leubirechat on November 24, 2018, 09:03:42 PM
Just HOLD


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Kseniya17 on November 24, 2018, 09:12:51 PM
I think that the last word is yours, you yourself must control and study the project you want to invest!


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Aleh777 on November 24, 2018, 09:13:26 PM
Well that is why you need to carefully check first the back ground information of the ICO before putting money on to it. Since big money is involved in ICOs there's no doubt that scammers would also use it because we find it as a high return high risk investment.
It's true, lot of money involve in ICO. There is even a study which i forgot the link wherein they said that investing in ICO is very profitable even if you got scammed 2x but when you participate in a single legitimate ICO you will still recover those loses and gain profit. Maybe that is the reason why scam ICOs are spreading.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: BTCreward on November 24, 2018, 11:09:54 PM
I still do not understand why people invest in ICO, or rather why they continue to invest, when everyone understands how high the level of risk. How many scams and how many just failed projects.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Isuk on November 24, 2018, 11:35:52 PM
That's why we need to research the project by ourselves before deciding to join in a project. It's not an easy thing, but we have to do that. We need to know any information about the project, the team, and anything about the project.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Cashi on November 24, 2018, 11:53:48 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results
I agree to you, so many scams are around and have damaged investors value and reputation of crypto in general. I hope we can spot bad scam ICO projects more efficient and tell other participants which ones are scam to bring more investors to good ICO projects. True ICO projects deserve more investments.

I can recommend Ice Rock ICO, the team is very transparent and you can see all the progress in a video which is made weekly to show Ice Rocks mining farm. It's an ICO which is doing really well.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: saidaperme on November 25, 2018, 02:49:02 AM
I'm tired of such hills


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: valdepono on November 25, 2018, 04:09:37 AM
The very moment to buy?


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Yusuf77 on November 25, 2018, 04:27:33 AM
The very moment to buy?
now it's the right time to buy because the market is not stable and prices are down. but we also have to be careful and careful when buying coins, because later the fear is not profitable and a future scam if you choose it carelessly.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: anamie on November 25, 2018, 04:55:43 AM
I think buying coin's that already listed on an exchanges is more profitable than investing in ICO's since mostly of the ICO's now are turn out into a scam projects but you're lucky if you have been choose those legit one because it will gave you a huge profits.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: bioquaddispwin on November 25, 2018, 06:50:40 AM
Need to sell a crypto now?


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: MetalGear on November 25, 2018, 08:37:35 AM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results
Once you good ICO projects you will really enjoy the investment result especially if its a big income. Many people do not want to invest in ICO simply because of scam and they afraid to lost a money.


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Sethrey on November 25, 2018, 02:42:52 PM
The very moment to buy?
now it's the right time to buy because the market is not stable and prices are down. but we also have to be careful and careful when buying coins, because later the fear is not profitable and a future scam if you choose it carelessly.

Have you chosen the best coins for you? I agree that it's a good time for investment. But there are so many tokens on the market that it's hard to choose :)
I prefer Ethereum and Ripple. Something else?


Title: Re: To Many SCAM!
Post by: Islapdonkey on November 25, 2018, 08:18:19 PM
I have often invested in ICO, but too many SCAMs in the ICO world, especially now ICO is like dust grains. Let's discuss for a good ICO and not a scam, so we can enjoy the investment results
Better is to avoid ICOs in these bad times, they have really big problem with collecitng enough money, so they use aggressive marketing strategies and thats not good.
But there are some good ICOs, that are not affected by the market, like ICONIQ LAB.

I would say your scamming ass is part of the problem Mr convery of droxne. Oh yeah, i still remember how you exit scammed on the investor. Wonder if you still using that bs excuse of transferring the account to someone else.