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Title: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 07:25:29 AM
Would anyone else be interested in working on these projects with me?

TestCoin: A coin so easy to mine, it can teach anyone how to use mining software, while making them feel like they are getting tons of coins (like 100,000 coins released per block or something). Also meant to be given away freely, to get people interested in Coins.

CoinCoin: A Coin that should never be exchanged for USD. A coin meant to be used to get coins with.

JokeCoin: A Coin that is so hard to mine, that no one will want to do it.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: GSnak on May 20, 2013, 07:26:14 AM
All of these already exist under various names.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 07:26:38 AM
I also have an idea for a 4th coin that would tie coins to human life in a way that would make mining a regular everyday occupation. Like people that don't understand computers would even start wanting to mine.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 07:27:30 AM
All of these already exist under various names.

What are they? And They should exists under these names, so that they are easier to find and understand.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: GSnak on May 20, 2013, 07:37:33 AM
TestCoin: A coin so easy to mine, it can teach anyone how to use mining software, while making them feel like they are getting tons of coins (like 100,000 coins released per block or something). Also meant to be given away freely, to get people interested in Coins.

Devcoin. Since it's merge-mined with BTC it takes no real effort to get, and you get several million per block.


CoinCoin: A Coin that should never be exchanged for USD. A coin meant to be used to get coins with.

The list on this one is pretty long, basically any coin from FTC forward.


JokeCoin: A Coin that is so hard to mine, that no one will want to do it.

Bitbar. With a generous payout of .00001 per block and 520, or 5200... 52000 confirmations to get paid, you can order a real bar of gold delivered across country by horse and receive it before any bitbar shows up in your wallet.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 07:47:15 AM
TestCoin: A coin so easy to mine, it can teach anyone how to use mining software, while making them feel like they are getting tons of coins (like 100,000 coins released per block or something). Also meant to be given away freely, to get people interested in Coins.

Devcoin. Since it's merge-mined with BTC it takes no real effort to get, and you get several million per block.


CoinCoin: A Coin that should never be exchanged for USD. A coin meant to be used to get coins with.

The list on this one is pretty long, basically any coin from FTC forward.


JokeCoin: A Coin that is so hard to mine, that no one will want to do it.

Bitbar. With a generous payout of .00001 per block and 520, or 5200... 52000 confirmations to get paid, you can order a real bar of gold delivered across country by horse and receive it before any bitbar shows up in your wallet.

Lol,

1. You have a wildly skewed view of Devcoin.
It's definitely NOT meant to teach people about coins, it is meant to support developers. I am a writer on Devtome and have been doing tons of stuff with the people in the devcoin community.
Their goal is NOT to be some form of "test coin" in any way.

2. Just because a coin is not available on any exchanges, does not mean that it was never meant to be traded for money.

3. Bitbar does actually seem like "joke coin". Is it valuable, or does no one use it?


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: ondratra on May 20, 2013, 07:56:50 AM
All of these already exist under various names.

:D:D exactly. Just find yourself a variation you like the best!


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: GSnak on May 20, 2013, 07:57:51 AM
Bitbar does actually seem like "joke coin". Is it valuable, or does no one use it?

It's the most valuable alt by far, and it shows up at the top of the profitability charts at times, but by the time your BB confirms it's usually fallen in price to the point where you'd have been better off sticking with LTC. And the liquidity sucks.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 08:00:46 AM
Here are just some random coin ideas, because I am a medical patient in Colorado, so I am being inspired right now :)

USA Coin- 50% of the coin goes to miners, 50% goes to paying off the huge national debt

Economy Coin- 50% of the coin goes to miners, 50% goes to trading for American dollars. The goal is to eventually constantly buy American dollars above value to stimulate the economy. Other countries could use it for the same purpose.

Charity Coin- 75% of the coins go to the company that made it, and the company gives out free mining machines once they start making money

Patient Coin- A coin whose value is measured in hash instead of dollars or Bitcoins




Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 08:01:46 AM
Bitbar does actually seem like "joke coin". Is it valuable, or does no one use it?

It's the most valuable alt by far, and it shows up at the top of the profitability charts at times, but by the time your BB confirms it's usually fallen in price to the point where you'd have been better off sticking with LTC. And the liquidity sucks.

That's crazy. It shouldn't take so long to get to your wallet.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 08:03:25 AM
EDCoin- The coin meant to be mined by the computers in school libraries to help fund the education of our planet (since people know schools are mining them, they will be willing to buy coins for no reason except to help schools)


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: GSnak on May 20, 2013, 08:03:50 AM
Wow, these are all great ideas!


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 08:04:42 AM
Wow, these are all great ideas!

Is that sarcasm? lol


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 08:06:38 AM
I also have an idea for a 4th coin that would tie coins to human life in a way that would make mining a regular everyday occupation. Like people that don't understand computers would even start wanting to mine.

I feel like I might as well give away the fourth idea now that I said all those other random ones. I won't give away the name or any specifics, but... A time based coin.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 08:09:24 AM
Solar Coin- The coin that is working towards making solar powered mining machines.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: Joerii on May 20, 2013, 08:26:00 AM
Fin, you're all fantasy and zero understanding. Maybe you should read up a little bit about how coins work and more importantly : what gives them value. You are undermining your reputation as DVC advocate and therefore DVC itself by posting this naive notions.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 03:31:11 PM
Fin, you're all fantasy and zero understanding. Maybe you should read up a little bit about how coins work and more importantly : what gives them value. You are undermining your reputation as DVC advocate and therefore DVC itself by posting this naive notions.

I've done plenty of reading, and you seem to be the one that doesn't understand. Or have some kind of shit seeking filter on simply because it is me posting.

Lol, I'm not undermining SHIT. My "reputation" comes from threads like this. And once I get paid and start giving out free shit, and eventually make my own coin in like a year or two, this will work to do nothing but give me a better "reputation".

And I don't see why you have such a big problem with discussion of possible alt coins. I think there should be MORE discussions like this so that maybe someone can accidentally suggest the perfect coin.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 03:54:01 PM
And just BTW, I am searching for people that would be interested in making any one of these real.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: crazy_rabbit on May 20, 2013, 04:24:39 PM
Testcoin -> Why not just use Bitcoin Testnet? We are already mining, it's more secure then any other alt-coin and everyone with bitcoin already has it. The difficulty has already jumped after the conference as the many people were talking about it.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 04:26:26 PM
Testcoin -> Why not just use Bitcoin Testnet? We are already mining, it's more secure then any other alt-coin and everyone with bitcoin already has it. The difficulty has already jumped after the conference as the many people were talking about it.

What is Bitcoin testnet? It's an alt coin?
I don't want to mine a difficult test coin, the test coin should be constantly simple to train people how to mine/trade.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: twobits on May 20, 2013, 04:30:53 PM
Would anyone else be interested in working on these projects with me?

TestCoin: A coin so easy to mine, it can teach anyone how to use mining software, while making them feel like they are getting tons of coins (like 100,000 coins released per block or something). Also meant to be given away freely, to get people interested in Coins.

Problem is, if enough actually mine it, it will either no longer be easy to mine, or generate lots of orphans.

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CoinCoin: A Coin that should never be exchanged for USD. A coin meant to be used to get coins with.

I actually have a coin concept ready to go similar to this,but with a better name.   Just does not seem a good time to be launching coins at all.

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JokeCoin: A Coin that is so hard to mine, that no one will want to do it.

Well bitcoin is pretty hard to mine these days.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: Joerii on May 20, 2013, 04:36:11 PM
Fin, you're all fantasy and zero understanding. Maybe you should read up a little bit about how coins work and more importantly : what gives them value. You are undermining your reputation as DVC advocate and therefore DVC itself by posting this naive notions.

I've done plenty of reading, and you seem to be the one that doesn't understand. Or have some kind of shit seeking filter on simply because it is me posting.

Lol, I'm not undermining SHIT. My "reputation" comes from threads like this. And once I get paid and start giving out free shit, and eventually make my own coin in like a year or two, this will work to do nothing but give me a better "reputation".

And I don't see why you have such a big problem with discussion of possible alt coins. I think there should be MORE discussions like this so that maybe someone can accidentally suggest the perfect coin.

OK, my tone was a bit to harsh. sorry.

All your ideas have been used and talked about to death already.

It's naive because coins are already easy to mine.

It's naive to make a coin that isn't supposed to be exchanged for fiat.

It's naive to make a coin just for a test. Test net is for that. People WILL try to get real money for it. They have even tried that with testnet coins.

You have a 1000 posts but maybe you should read a bit....


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 04:39:25 PM
Would anyone else be interested in working on these projects with me?

TestCoin: A coin so easy to mine, it can teach anyone how to use mining software, while making them feel like they are getting tons of coins (like 100,000 coins released per block or something). Also meant to be given away freely, to get people interested in Coins.

Problem is, if enough actually mine it, it will either no longer be easy to mine, or generate lots of orphans.

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CoinCoin: A Coin that should never be exchanged for USD. A coin meant to be used to get coins with.

I actually have a coin concept ready to go similar to this,but with a better name.   Just does not seem a good time to be launching coins at all.

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JokeCoin: A Coin that is so hard to mine, that no one will want to do it.

Well bitcoin is pretty hard to mine these days.


Couldn't you make it where the difficulty remained constant. Like no rounds, just one giant round of mining?

Let me know when you launch it, I'll help :)

True shit, Bitcoin is hard.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 04:42:47 PM


OK, my tone was a bit to harsh. sorry.

All your ideas have been used and talked about to death already.

It's naive because coins are already easy to mine.

It's naive to make a coin that isn't supposed to be exchanged for fiat.

It's naive to make a coin just for a test. Test net is for that. People WILL try to get real money for it. They have even tried that with testnet coins.

You have a 1000 posts but dont know the basics.

Coins may be "easy" to mine, but there is no coin that releases so many coins that it can never pass the faucet stage.

It is not naïve to make a coin that isn't exchangeable for money. The other guy said he's doing it already and it's perfect for people who NEVER want to pay taxes again.

I don't care if people try to get real money for it, it is the actual mission of the coin itself that matters.

I know the basics, and I'm even pretty good at dealing with the Bittrolls (like yourself, coming in bias and unwilling to communicate because you already "talked about it too much with other people")


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: GSnak on May 20, 2013, 04:45:36 PM
I'm not sure how you go about making a coin that can't be sold.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 04:46:29 PM
I'm not sure how you go about making a coin that can't be sold.

It can be sold. But only for other coins.
And the way you do it is by making threads saying you want to buy Coin Coins in exchange for DVC or BTC, and eventually an exchange that has no "real world" currencies.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: Barnacle_Ed on May 20, 2013, 04:48:19 PM
A project under the name "JokeCoin" is already something I've been fiddling around with (http://jokecoin.blogspot.com/) and plan to release something relatively soon. The source code is done as of yesterday, and I just need to start a genesis block and make an announcement.


It's rather different from your idea though. But I felt that needed to be mentioned.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: twobits on May 20, 2013, 04:49:17 PM

Problem is, if enough actually mine it, it will either no longer be easy to mine, or generate lots of orphans.



Couldn't you make it where the difficulty remained constant. Like no rounds, just one giant round of mining?



Hence the 'or generate lots of orphans' which is what happens if you hold difficulty too low.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 04:50:25 PM
A project under the name "JokeCoin" is already something I've been fiddling around with (http://jokecoin.blogspot.com/) and plan to release something relatively soon. The source code is done as of yesterday, and I just need to start a genesis block and make an announcement.


It's rather different from your idea though. But I felt that needed to be mentioned.

What is the idea behind your coin?


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 04:50:50 PM

Problem is, if enough actually mine it, it will either no longer be easy to mine, or generate lots of orphans.



Couldn't you make it where the difficulty remained constant. Like no rounds, just one giant round of mining?



Hence the 'or generate lots of orphans' which is what happens if you hold difficulty too low.


What are orphans in terms of mining?


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: GSnak on May 20, 2013, 04:51:10 PM
It can be sold. But only for other coins.
And the way you do it is by making threads saying you want to buy Coin Coins in exchange for DVC or BTC, and eventually an exchange that has no "real world" currencies.

So you make "UnFiatCoin" that can't be exchanged for fiat. Someone starts UFCexchange.com where anyone can deposit dollars and euros and UnFiatCoin. People begin trading dollars for UnFiatCoin. Your plan is foiled.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: Barnacle_Ed on May 20, 2013, 04:52:46 PM
A project under the name "JokeCoin" is already something I've been fiddling around with (http://jokecoin.blogspot.com/) and plan to release something relatively soon. The source code is done as of yesterday, and I just need to start a genesis block and make an announcement.


It's rather different from your idea though. But I felt that needed to be mentioned.

What is the idea behind your coin?

Take 10 minutes and read the blog...everything is outlined there and I'd hate to repeat myself unnecessarily...


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 04:54:26 PM
Yep. Do it! We have every other kind of coin imaginable, but they're all limited to this puny craphole planet. Time to take it to the next step and make this one a reality. It needs to be blazin fast, but with fewer coins than BTC. This will ensure maxium value when the entire solar system starts using it in the future, including those water dwellers in Europa. Hell, might as well design some type of client that utilizes a quantum entanglement capable thumb drive to communicate instantly with other clients which would otherwise be unable to communicate in real time to due relativistic communication speed constraints. INSTANT & secure confirmation time, anywhere. Literally. Huge coin improvement.  ;D

SLC - FTW!!!!

This image needs to be in the coin logo somewhere: http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/730032main_aug31-prominence.jpg



Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 04:55:51 PM
It can be sold. But only for other coins.
And the way you do it is by making threads saying you want to buy Coin Coins in exchange for DVC or BTC, and eventually an exchange that has no "real world" currencies.

So you make "UnFiatCoin" that can't be exchanged for fiat. Someone starts UFCexchange.com where anyone can deposit dollars and euros and UnFiatCoin. People begin trading dollars for UnFiatCoin. Your plan is foiled.

No it's not. You should learn to read.
I already said, it doesn't matter what people ACTUALLY do with it, it is the mission that matters. And with a UnFiat mission, most of the trading will be done p2p, or for other coins on exchanges.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 04:56:23 PM
A project under the name "JokeCoin" is already something I've been fiddling around with (http://jokecoin.blogspot.com/) and plan to release something relatively soon. The source code is done as of yesterday, and I just need to start a genesis block and make an announcement.


It's rather different from your idea though. But I felt that needed to be mentioned.

What is the idea behind your coin?

Take 10 minutes and read the blog...everything is outlined there and I'd hate to repeat myself unnecessarily...

I just did and it's a bunch of stuff about porn coins, boob coins and quickies.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: GSnak on May 20, 2013, 05:48:15 PM
So you make "UnFiatCoin" that can't be exchanged for fiat. Someone starts UFCexchange.com where anyone can deposit dollars and euros and UnFiatCoin. People begin trading dollars for UnFiatCoin. Your plan is foiled.

No it's not. You should learn to read.
I already said, it doesn't matter what people ACTUALLY do with it, it is the mission that matters.

Ah my bad. I'm used to it mattering if the intended goal is achieved. This thread makes a whole lot more sense now.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 05:49:22 PM
Seed Coin:
I am going to have thousands of seeds soon from a few different species of plants.
I want to make a coin that has no dollar value, but has multiple exchange rates listed in seed.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 05:49:53 PM
So you make "UnFiatCoin" that can't be exchanged for fiat. Someone starts UFCexchange.com where anyone can deposit dollars and euros and UnFiatCoin. People begin trading dollars for UnFiatCoin. Your plan is foiled.

No it's not. You should learn to read.
I already said, it doesn't matter what people ACTUALLY do with it, it is the mission that matters.

Ah my bad. I'm used to it mattering if the intended goal is achieved. This thread makes a whole lot more sense now.

You are horrible at reading.
Just because A FEW people go off track, does not alter the goal of the coin.
Ex: The Silk Road does not DEFINE BTC users

And people have a hard enough time accepting Bitcoin, you think people are gonna trade a coin that has no dollar value for money on the regular?


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: Barnacle_Ed on May 20, 2013, 06:27:18 PM
A project under the name "JokeCoin" is already something I've been fiddling around with (http://jokecoin.blogspot.com/) and plan to release something relatively soon. The source code is done as of yesterday, and I just need to start a genesis block and make an announcement.


It's rather different from your idea though. But I felt that needed to be mentioned.

What is the idea behind your coin?

Take 10 minutes and read the blog...everything is outlined there and I'd hate to repeat myself unnecessarily...

I just did and it's a bunch of stuff about porn coins, boob coins and quickies.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg/300px-Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg



If you scrolled down or clicked on the post entitled "The Purpose of this Blog" (http://jokecoin.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-purpose-of-this-blog.html), all would have been made clear. TL;DR: Establish a bunch of altcoin chains poking fun at other cryptocoins.


Unfortunately, since life's thrown a few curveballs my way, I haven't had the time to update anything on this project for almost a month :(


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: shakezula on May 20, 2013, 06:39:47 PM

Patient Coin- A coin whose value is measured in hash instead of dollars or Bitcoins

THIS +1 and where might I exchange my coins for hash?


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: GSnak on May 20, 2013, 06:40:46 PM
you think people are gonna trade a coin that has no dollar value for money on the regular?

Money is a means of trading a unit of work, as such virtually no one is going to use their electric bill to donate to these causes if there is no means to compensate them for this expenditure.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: Joerii on May 20, 2013, 07:04:14 PM
you think people are gonna trade a coin that has no dollar value for money on the regular?

Money is a means of trading a unit of work, as such virtually no one is going to use their electric bill to donate to these causes if there is no means to compensate them for this expenditure.

Hence the naivety

Also, if I use a coin that can't be exchanged for USD, I'll just exchange it for , say, LTC and exchange that for USD.

Not trolling, just being frank


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 07:28:55 PM

Patient Coin- A coin whose value is measured in hash instead of dollars or Bitcoins

THIS +1 and where might I exchange my coins for hash?

Colorado :) Just gotta get a rec center to accept it in 2014 :)


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 07:30:12 PM
you think people are gonna trade a coin that has no dollar value for money on the regular?

Money is a means of trading a unit of work, as such virtually no one is going to use their electric bill to donate to these causes if there is no means to compensate them for this expenditure.

You are so retarded. THE COIN IS TRADABLE FOR OTHER COINS. And BTCs, LTCs, NMCs, etc. Are STILL worth money.

It just makes it where there is a whole group of people working for coins that don't even want money. Which makes sense, there are PLENTY of websites to spend Bitcoins and even BTC cell phone companies.


Title: Re: TestCoin, CoinCoin & JokeCoin
Post by: FinShaggy on May 20, 2013, 07:31:48 PM

Hence the naivety

Also, if I use a coin that can't be exchanged for USD, I'll just exchange it for , say, LTC and exchange that for USD.

Not trolling, just being frank

That's not naïve that's the GOAL. It makes ALL coins more valuable, or at least more in demand, since there is a coin that trades for nothing but coins.