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I would like to start sending letters to people in jail.

1st. I've been in jail and I know it's awesome getting mail
2nd. When they get out they have to go on probation usually, and need a job. Bitcoin mining & trading (and things like writing on Devtome) could legally fill that void so that they don't have to turn right back to criminal activity.
3rd. The idea of Bitcoin needs to be shared amongst struggling people

Not JUST struggling people. But mining is something that people should know about, lest they turn to illegal activity.

There are coins that are merge mined and tradable for BTC that can be CPU mined.
And what if there is a guy that has $10,000 that he would spend on buying coke to sell, but starts up a mining op in a few friends houses when he gets out instead.

Or if he was good he could steal the hardware.

Devcoin. Mine and write until you can afford a rig.

Yes, please get more criminals into cryptocoins, we don't have enough of them yet.

Not everyone in jail is a criminal. Tons of people are in there for unpaid parking tickets and possession of pot.
Victimless offenders, who if they had more money, would have more privacy and could pay their tickets.

Most people are in jail because of drug related crimes (as a libertarian and recreational drug user, I think this is a travesty of justice). If you educate people in jail on Bitcoin, make sure you mention silk road. As more drugs is traded online, less will have to traded in the streets so this is beneficial to society.

if we dont use bitcoin ,we are really in jail .

Don't personally know anyone in jail but there should be some place where you can get pen pals if thats what you mean.

The OP offers a noble suggestion. Be careful about identifying yourself in any way, but imprisoned people need this care. I feel I have let down people I've known that fell through the cracks of society. Those cracks are widening every day.

Well. I'm due in court right around the time I'm expecting my Avalon order. That's why I was trying to sell them, don't know what's going to happen as I can't afford legal aid at the moment! So tense right now.... did someone turn up the heat??

Jail > bitcoin > silk road > jail again

Nothing to do with bitcoin, or drugs.

Or, if they get out of jail/prison in a state that allows marijuana legally, Washington/Colorado, some or all parts of cali and some other states, they can grow cannabis and might be much more lucrative than bitcoin/litecoin mining. Maybe safer to mine as growing cannabis is "federally illegal".

I agree with you, I did time for growing and think your idea is a good one, I would love to talk to you more about the idea, as one of the things on my project list is to go back into prisons and help people ready for release.

Mark

Jail isn't that bad. Hopefully you didn't do anything too bad and get out soon.
Just spread the word about mining and coins while you're there :)

Not true.

I live in Colorado and grow weed and

1. It's illegal to sell weed unless you are a dispensary or caregiver, so no it is not lucrative.
2. Weed takes a lot longer to grow than you might think, and uses just as much if not more electricity than mining.

Go back into prison? Like as a church person, or you plan on getting arrested again?

It's an alternative job. They could. And you sell your grown cannabis to the dispensary while you are licensed to do so. And yes, it is lucrative, why you think people are licensed to grow and sell. I bet it beats the the hell out of working at a fast food joints that ask for criminal history. How long would it take to solo mine a bitcoin vs growing a plant? Plant does not take so long to grow as you think, only few months, then the turn around profit after examined under microscopes, is phenomenal. In the long run, growing at fullest legal capacity, it might be more lucrative than bitcoin/litecoin mining.

I'm not saying that it's impossible to make money from weed, of course it's better than having a fast food job.
My point is that MINING is a better solution. And my "opinion" comes from experience in the state you speak of, not speculation.

And you don't just "get a license to sell weed to dispensaries". It's a lot harder to get certified for that than you think.
Getting a legal card or growing weed is one thing (anyone over 21 can grow 6 plants). Selling it is a whole other story.

And I totally forgot.
You can't get badges and stuff if you are a felon. So telling X-Cons to go grow weed kinda doesn't even work, while mining does.

Also, it's not that lucrative unless you go industrial on it.  Growing from your home is a fucking GRIND.  Then you can sells a few lbs after 6-8 weeks, giving you maybe $3,000 per month (if there are no grow op issues).  Plus if you get ANY mites, mold, etc, dispensaries won't buy and you must follow other routes for liquidating that product at a lower rate.

Next, how the fuck is a prisoner going to discover, understand, and decide to mine bitcoins?  WHERE WOULD THEY GET THE CAPITAL?

I was arrested every 4 months from the age of 15 to 17 (after spending 14 in jail) because I smoke weed, and was raised in Texas.

Then they busted into my house without a warrant when I was 18 and arrested me (with no warrant).

I've been in jail for 2 days, 11 days, 2 weeks, 1 month, 6 months, and 8 months. All of them were juvy except the 11 days.

FROM ME, lol.
I can give them everything except capital, and eventually I can offer free mining machines :)

What would stop an ex con from growing cannabis in a legal state? If an ex con is licensed & registered to grow, the govt knows about it, they would know what the power consumption is for. Telling an ex con to go mine, if he does mine and consume a ton of energy, his life is in more danger, as the electric company will report the power consumption, and guaranteed the feds/police will think they are illegally growing, and knowing cops, they will shoot you dead if you are or not an ex con. It could be dumb to consider mining to an ex con. That just my opinion though.

The LAW would stop them. ex-cons can't get licenses to sell weed, or badges for working in the industry. Period.

Mining requires no licensing and just a computer to start up :)

I'm not really expecting jail, but I have enjoyed having a clean (adult) record, and intended to keep it that way. The thing is I can't afford any legal aid so I have no idea what plea to give... it's an offencive weapons charge! The police found a stanley knife (as well as other TOOLS) in my bag when I was getting searched on Saturday. So it could be fairly serious for me depending on the outcome, my University will not allow me to continue my course for example....

Any real lawyers on here?? I can pay in BTC ;)

Oh shit.
I mean, I would plea innocent, and try to prove that the tools weren't able to harm anyone where they were and you were on the way to a job or something.

Yeah that's what I'm thinking... But god it's driving me mad! Waiting for my Avalons has been stressful enough!

I guess you're correct, been browsing grasscityforums, ex-con cannot be a caregiver. This makes absolutely no sense at all. You think about this, and it is literally stupid, because you would be allowed, I would imagine, an ex-con can brew their own beer and sell "im not for sure". Under common sense law, being an ex-con should not interfere with growing cannabis, at any reason. I am not an ex-con, but finding this out just fucks over ex-cons even more imo, so yea, I would have to agree with you on considering mining to ex cons, fuck the govt. regulating motherfuckers.

Agreed, keeping jobs away from felons is stupid, especially when you can get a felony for growing 1 plant in most states.

If they want to restrict felons in society, only violent offenders, murderers, theives and rapists should be felons.

Exactly, non-violent offenders should be left alone. The laws are completely screwed and backed by greedy liars.

More population to mining, if ex-cons get the hang of mining.

Not just greedy liars, but politics. They make certain plants illegal, just because they come from certain countries. Ex: Hemp/Cannabis was never called Marijuana until we decided it was a Mexican thing.

WA i-502, etc

Here is a video from Google Tech Talks with Robina Courtin which might be relevant to this discussion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nasIq4E9nNg

Among other things (like being a Buddhist nun) she is helping people in prisons to find themselves in this life. Might be worthwhile to get in touch with her and see if Bitcoin can help her cause.

Thank you. I will contact her, and this gives me the idea to contact other groups that already go into jails also :)

In that case, I've been out of jail for many years now.  Can I be the first one to receive a 'free mining machine'?  ;)

Well, for people who aren't in jail there will be threads here and videos on YouTube telling you how you can get free machines. But it will have to be contest type shit because I can't jut give machines to anyone who asks.

Why not just get yourself back into jail and you could spread 'THE WORD' ?

I already said, it'll happen one day.

No one wants to go there, why even say that. Oh yea, breathe air, go to prison. Well, who ever goes first, don't forget to mention Bitcoin/Litecoin mining.

I'm not gonna go on purpose. I just know I will go again. I was in jail every 4 months from the ages of 15-17. I'm not glorifying it, just saying that I don't expect the police states of this country to allow me to keep my freedom for the entire rest of my life. Just to make sure I'm not disappointed with life, I expect to spend some time serving time for stupid shit the state says I can't do (like smoke weed in some states).

that's too easy.  I've found the tougher roads are the ones worth walking.

Wisdom  :)

FinShaggy, it looks to me that you live on cloud cuckoo land with your head up your arse. Get a grip of reality FFS

How about a Bitcoins for Bail fund?

To get some pre-trial detainees out.

Dope busts, etc.

"Good people at bitcointalk.org have decided to help you post bail..."

If they show up for trial, we re-cycle the money for someone else.

If they run, post their name and photo in this forum.

Evaluate the project periodically.

Screw this. We need a private Bitcoin for-profit prison. Have them solve CAPTCHAs all day, pay in BTC. That's how you build an economy, guys.

That would be pretty cool too. And we like vote on who the money goes to. We all look for good cases, then vote :)

Surprised to not see this posted yet: http://www.mail-to-jail.com/

I know Rich Paul, and he definitely doesn't belong there.

Thank you, that's all I was looking for :)

This thread makes no sense.  You would need hundreds of thousands of dollars in hardware to even begin to touch the profits involved with drugs sales, and theft.   Put it this way, how much hardware would you need to pull min $100 a day, and where is that money coming from?  To get rich at this stage, you're already rich, or a thief that belongs in  jail.

While I'm not sure most people in Jail would have the finincal resources to make money from bitcoin when they got out. I do like to see people who like to write letters for those in jail.  A lot of people in jail are nothing more than victims of a society they were raised/brought up in and/or victims of the war on drugs.

I don't have any links on hand but a quick google search should find a few good programs that deal with making prison pen pals.

No you wouldn't. If you have $10,000 you could start a good mining operation, and from there you just buy mining machines and solar equipment.

With the overpopulation of earth, numbers of poor people grow as well as the number of incarcerated, with the numbers of U.S. I don't think you can even judge the average ex-con anymore...

You can learn more about business behind bars than in high school  :P

Disclaimer: I am not an attorney.

In what state/country do you reside? First offense? This sounds like BS charges for a box cutter. You didn't threaten anyone with it, did you? PM if you like.

If you are on track in your curriculum, have no priors, old/youth priors, or minor stuff; this should be simple. Most states have statutes that allow for expunging, null pros, etc. At the very most, probation/fine is in your future. Seems kind of silly to even endure that if this is the whole story.

Off topic, but what's up with the first page tonight? Friday? Fullish moon? Holiday weekend? SR and weapons charges. What's next?

FIFY

True shit. Some people come out of jail ready to take the BAR exam.

That fact is truly insane. BAR exam, chess games, spades, the guys there are brilliant, no doubt. There are a lot of really intelligent people in prison/jail. A lot of times, I think my brain goes to waste sitting behind this screen, probably would have been better off going to prison, and come out with a GED or some type of degree, atleast.

I learned a lot being in Juvy for 6 months. All there is to do is read and scheme in jail. So you either come out smarter an ready to do something real, or smarter and ready to go back to jail (with a stupid scheme, even though you are smarter).