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closed and repaid.

1. Collect 400 BTC
2. Pretend to be hacked
3. Post on forum
4. Profit

Sounds fishy.

lol

How do you know your box was hacked rather than them obtaining the wallet.dat file some other way?

Can you explain what you mean by this?  Were you selling graphics cards or opening a bank?

logs? or something to show you were actually 'hacked' instead of something else

Selling your 6990s for Bitcoins? Why not put them on Ebay for real money? They are going for at least $1,000 now.

Don't be so hard on yourself. These things happen sometimes..

send out the 4 and sell the other 6.
If you sell them for bitcoins, once you get them distribute them into tiny caches seems like the only option.

I'll pay 2.5 BTC for a really awesome blowjob.  Assuming that's the going rate, you'd need to give out 160.  If you gave out 20 per day, you could have your money back in 8 short days!

Assuming this is legit, I'm really sorry for your loss. 


I agree.

This smell...
I suggest to save your gnu/linux box in a external device, very hidde in your house and send little amounts of bitcoins to a "daily use" wallet :-|...

No more than with any other financial system.  All this all will do is encourage better security and strengthen the system in the long run.  Trial by fire.


And you're responsible for that.  Unfortunate, but that's the way it goes.


And they could be "sneaky" and break into your house when you're not home and take that ~7000 usd from under your bed...  You kept all your eggs in one basket, in one wallet file (as opposed to a "savings account"), and you got compromised.

Bitcoins, like cash, can be stored safely offline, away from the clutches of the hackers.  You neglected to do that and were careless with the money of others.  You are responsible as much as any hacker.  You should own up to those whose money you lost and offer to pay the money back over time.

I would like to point out that Jay01 just typed "hard on".

Get a netbook for a couple hundred dollars max. If you're thinking about dealing with anything over 100 BTC, this is a wise investment for this exact quote. Connect netbook via cat-5(without internet access) when you need to send or receive coins, disconnect when you're finished. Keep a backup on a tiny usb in the netbook just in case the PoS dies and you're good to go. Sounds like it's a lot of work, but I'd rather be out about 100 BTC than 400, or even 25000 if allinvain's story is true.

this^

Op should have known this is good practice.  Because it was reasonable to foresee that a hack was possible (anybody read the news), OP can't claim it's all the hacker's fault.

You have two options:

1. Buy some BTC and refund the people you sold the cards to.
2. Ship the cards to the people who paid you.

Anything else makes you the thief.

seems online banks get hacked frequent enough and it isn't the end of the USD yet :P
If people paid you in bitcoins for a product, you need to ship that product regardless if you are now out of the money.
It isn't their fault your security was lax.

The USD is crashing!  SELL ALL YOUR USD!!!

Can you provide the details of how you were hacked for the benefit of the community? And if you'd like, include the actual IP addresses and times of the attacker (remove your own IP address if you want) so that perhaps the attacker can be identified and if the attack source was itself compromised, appropriate notifications can be sent. This will also help people to believe you, if you care about that.

Yeah, and if a thief breaks into your house, you can't really blame the thief because you know that locks can be picked, it's partly your fault for not staying in your house all the time with an automatic weapon.

be careful. In the states if a thief falls through a skylight and lands on a knife, you could be held liable. Doesn't really apply for bitcoins, but still funny.

But if 5 of your 10 neighbors say "I left the door unlocked and I got robbed this weekend", and the cops tell you "Lock your doors" and you dont, then you go to the cops and say "I got robbed!  I left my door unlocked, but you didn't stop them! The police department should reimburse me, as should all of my neighbors!"

Christ, a sucker is born every minute.

It was probably one of the people you sold the video cards to.

Hello Thomas,
You are a network Admin at CNY-Media in Hannibal New York.
You should know what a log file looks like, and you should be able to prove this hack with little effort.

The buyers have your name, phone, address, business address, facebook account, etc.

I'd suggest refunds all around.

Good day.

Some of you need to relax.

Do you think bitcoin is the first financial system ever to experience hacker attacks?

Check your security and give it a rest.

I just re-read the thread and I don't see the place where he asked for me or anyone else to reimburse him.

I look at it this way, if 1 of your neighbors says "I had the house locked and someone still broke in" I'll be more careful,  If 5 of them say it I'll be even more careful (like change my locks), each report I hear I'll increase my vigilance.  It is very useful to hear about them to get an idea of the magnitude of the problem.  If, after all that, I still get my house broken into, I'll tell my neighbors and it is still the thief's fault.

Well that's certainly interesting.

Did an employee of a New York based online reputation management firm (http://cnymediasolutions.com/) just happen to scam a bunch of people out of their Bitcoins?

He's already telling everyone he isn't planning to pay back. He is outright lying about this obviously imo. I wouldn't trust this guy. I knew it was going to end badly when I saw the ad. Too bad people lost hard earned btc over this. I'm 100% sure he isn't paying back anyone.

screenshots or it didn't happen

Yeah, people are quick to jump on him. We can speculate about his motives about any number of imagined facts.

I am curious about the distribution of Linux, what services were running, how many users, type of networking (wifi?), how often the system is updated, and (since I assume the password has been changed) what the password of the victims account was.

Obviously trying to run with 400BTC making this public to look like he was robbed.

Not one single reply after his initial fud post.

I hope the people who gave you 400BTC (if this is even true, might just be another BTC hater) come after you.

So is this a (poorly) hatched ruse to cover your ass when you start getting questioned by the people you stole from?

Or is this a legitimate case of poor security resulting in coinage loss.


Stay tuned to find out!

I lover these threads

lots of vengeful bitches, painting targets on themselves,
who probably deserve to get haxooorrrr'd

xD

have some compassion or get off the internetz.

Valhala muthafukin RISING.

Yeah.. Um.. I scare myself sometimes.

Be glad I wasn't the one who got ripped off.

I have his
Full name
Address
Phone
Place of business
Church
Wife's name
Kid's names
And plenty more...

Lol, um yeah.. I'm just gonna stop now before the cops start questioning me.

Lol, make that your joomla admin name and password too.

I agree with this. Or at least are the single largest problem facing the community at the moment.

BUT this post seems fishy as hell.

Who cares.  Either way he should pay the money back.

yeah cause fighting someone is safer than just securing your system  ::)

Yes, it seems as if hes trying to gain pity from the forum but at the same time sort of incriminating himself further.


I love this

Without a doubt, he should.  I dont see why others should suffer due to his negligence, thats *IF* his story is true

No problem.

ROLL BACK the steal.

He shouldn't worry about being sued but charged with grand theft/larceny interstate wire fraud etc.
Because I would be looking into pressing charges if it was me who sent coins for goods and didn't receive.
Not to mention some concerned forum users who know more about him than he knows about himself it looks ;)

Let's assume you are not joking:
He is a network Admin at CNY-Media and you already have his "personal-site" Joomla admin login name and password?
Hope is employer doesn't see this thread...

whats your bitcoin address? ill lookup the ip any coins were sent to

oh wai

it was you so you wont do it

Not like I have done anything with it or plan to.  He's been advised in public about what I and many others know in case he plans on running away with the coins and cards.

I believe in my heart that this God fearing individual will see the mess he has gotten himself in to and will do the right thing and refund his buyers or ship out the merchandise.

If not, I have it on file in case the buyers want to pursue further legal action.

I know this comment adds absolutely nothing to this thread, but I can't help it so here it goes: What a fucking loser.

+1

and a scammer

I find it hard to imagine that a single computer on the Internet could get hacked.

There is nothing you can do. Once the bitcoins were in your possession their security was your responsibility. Just like if people pay you cash for video cards, and you get robbed on your way home, the guys who bought the video cards have nothing to do with you being robbed. You are still responsible for sending the video cards. I feel for you and it really sucks that this happened (assuming your story is true, you never know, because this message board seems to be filled with trollers and dishonest types). But, if it's true, I hope you aren't posting here looking for sympathy and that you aren't going to try to back out of the deal to sell the cards. You should still send them.
Why would he do refunds, and not simply send them the cards? Or did he not own the cards to begin with? Was he acting as a middle man, purchasing the cards using the bitcoins the people sent him?

Now would be a good time to seek some Mediation or other non-court dispute resolution, because, if this goes to court, OP, you're hosed either way.

It'd be interesting to see if anyone sues. Unjust enrichment may apply here.

**I buy graphics cards from you on ebay  :D
**You get them stolen after I buy.  :-\
**You should keep my money?  ::)

Oh I know, It's just ironic since he's a network admin who should be good with security.

This is most definitely a scam, and I have proof.

Yesterday, he pointed out in a support request that about 230 BTC in this address was his on behalf of his customers:
http://blockexplorer.com/address/16k6KeqY13MEwXCKa6uMWvsg7Bmqq1TzXb

Thus far:
35.5 BTC haven't moved
At MINIMUM 78 BTC (http://blockexplorer.com/tx/f25875ef027f1fbe6fe53705ff333b6dfc3993aae46ea7e0e2552c573cf2518c#o1) was change that is still in his control (if it was the other way around, it was 150)

That's 113.5 BTC that the thief decided to just leave. Yeah... BULLSHIT!

OMGz my bitcoinz got losted or stolded or something!!!!11!!1!

My forum account got hacked (AKA the Wiener defense) in
3...
2...
1...

I assure you, I'm capable of handling my job as congressman.  However, I can't say for certain if this cock that has been attached to me my whole life is mine or not.

Would anyone like to come forward as being scammed by OP?

So far it looks like the only victims here are the clients of a certain New York based social media consultant.

While thinking about whether this guy may or may not have hatched a scheme to steal people coins it made me wonder something. 

At this point in the game when people do transactions, at what point does the sender accept some responsibility in ensuring(by asking or otherwise) that the receiver has taken proper measures to secure his/her Bitcoins(wallet.dat) on the other end?

Just throwin it out there.

At no point. When I hand over cash to the corner store, it's not my fault someone knocks it over after I walk out.

If you didn't receive the goods you just handed your cash over for you'd be damn pissed pissed if the goods and the cash were gone soon after.  And you'd feel a damn retard if the store was in the middle of Compton and had no security of bars on the windows to protect it.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, so take the blinders off buddy.

Im the one who sent him 35 BTC that he now owes me because he promised me an XFX 6990. 

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Since many people are scared of Bitcoin as it is based on the very technical nature of it, I hope these recent attacks don't scare too many people off. For those that stay, Bitcoin security is going to be huge in the Bitcoin market.

Block Explorer verifies that he still has your SPECIFIC funds.

Take the money and run  ;)
http://youtu.be/fFGZufk4HFs (http://youtu.be/fFGZufk4HFs)

I have permanently saved his post where he shows that he owns the address I specified. Feel free to use this in your lawsuit:
http://www.webcitation.org/5zeCk8VX1

Caveat Emptor

ie: Don't go into the store in Compton with no bars.

This is why they invented Clearcoin.

Thank you. I will be pursuing this to the fullest extent possible.

Second time someone has tried to scam me my bitcoins and not put out a card.

First it was Why, now him. Both seemed reputable. Stupid I was.

Clearcoin doesn't solve anything. Both buyers and sellers can scam the other using Clearcoin.

anyone know if this is the same scammer as above?

https://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=21375.0


this is all to familiar ... ???

Thomas Van Riper
(315) 806-3512

Owner Operator
Www.BTCNetwork.com
(315) 908-CNY3
admin@btcnetwork.com
cnymedia@cny-media.com


http://www.godsvisionchristianchurch.org/index.php/contactus


Van Riper, Thomas thomas@cny-media.com
CNY Media
P.O. Box 246
Hannibal, New York 13074
United States
(315) 908-2693


Anyone need anymore contact information? I'll gladly provide.

Seriously dude, it's a parody.

actually, its not  :(

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=P.O.+Box+246+Hannibal,+New+York+13074&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=756&bih=686&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x89d760b310ca999d:0x72c0f95225cfb417,Hannibal,+NY&gl=us&ei=RsgCTrSRAtPogAe0hPneCg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CBcQ8gEwAA

1) Yes, that's a Parody. Imperi's a mildly amusing troll.

2) Clearcoin is an escrow house. If you're that paranoid, don't use an automated one.

1.) probably not a good thing to be making light off don't you agree ?

2.) why is he saying this OP and himself do deserve our donations if he isn't serious ?

"The developers forgot to implement fraud protection into this currency, and so poor individuals like myself have no recourse after being hacked. I did remember to lock my screen but the hacker probably found a way around that. 

Please help us set up a charity fund for people who have been hacked. It's the only recourse or Bitcoin's name will be tarnished forever in the eyes of the media, bankers, and investors. Some of us have been out hundreds of Bitcoins, or even 20,000 in one case. He felt like killing himself. Most of you don't know how it feels to be hacked, and hopefully never will.

I have the Bitcoin addresses that the hacker stole. Maybe they could be invalidated somehow, by hardcoding a blacklist into the client code? It's possibly lulzsec who hacked my computer, and they should be cut off from the funds. I know others are also maintaining a list of addresses that the hackers stole."


What is that about ?

LOL. Isn't there some Bible verse about lying and stealing?

http://www.facebook.com/thomas.r.vanriper

Hello there Mr. VanRiper.

Confirmed by CNY-Affiliation.

http://www.CNY-MEDIA.com
http://www.cnylaptop.com
http://www.godsvisionchristianchurch.org
http://www.mhajc.org
http://www.cnywebdesign.org
http://www.youtube.com/user/joel310ministries

Chittenango High School
Class of 1999

Any alumni who can do a lookup?

You forget to put donation address dude.

I'm assuming that this is a quote from the other thread? Remember what I said about him being a mildly amusing troll?

WTF did you have your wallet online?  Mine is only online for the duration of the transaction I'm doing and then pulled back off to thumb-drive.

If nothing else this bitcoin project will push more much better levels of security with computers, it is amazing how vulnerable all computers really are.

Get a copy of Microsoft Windows, I hear they're unhackable!

OP fucked himself up telling he got hacked on Linux. He should have said "OMG i was storing my wallet.dat on my win95 pc running IE2 and for some reason i got robbed while downloading all kinds of porn screensavers all day long!!11". Though, he would have been fucked up in that case too.

This post stinks !! But if your concerned about security use linuxcoin ;) I keep telling people leaving your wallet on a computer online is like leaving your real wallet on the back seat of your car in plain view !! And then you bitch about it when your own mistakes caused you to loose money :D

0.2b has the option to encrypt your home folder making it very hard for a hacker to get your coins even if they swipe your pc or memory stick ;)

Oh boy another angry mob is forming.

or a helpless group of 10 people who has 35 less btcs. I hope someones got the balls to find him face to face and duke it out and maybe upload a video for viewing pleasure, but we likely won't see this happen. Not that I condone such act of course.

I don't see how anyone can really scam each other through it.
I've used it now once and asked the other person to donate to charity if I don't deliver so It's lose/lose.

Am I right in saying however that if after 30 days they are returned to your wallet if not released but by that time you would surely file a complaint with clearcoin and show them proof you delivered what was asked  ???

Yeah dude, locking your screen isn't going to help when all I need to do is code an app that greps for the wallet and then FTPs it to my server. You can code Bitcoin Malware in under 50 lines. Exploit via 0day, browser, java, bot, whatever.

can we place all these threats in a section called "I left the wallet on my car's front seat, and now it's gone"?
we are going to see many of these

This is not going to be the end of Bitcoin, but the start of a new era in digital security products , procedures, services... culture?

I say you put 400 BTC on red. May as well gamble n' try to double your money. Odds are great.

What version of Linux were you using, and how did a hacker "hack" your system?

It doesn't sound very likely to me.

IE isn't available for Linux.  ;)

There aren't many malware programs for Linux either. You basically have "herd immunity" from viruses just by using Linux. (For those who understand the concept "herd immunity")

Honestly, Bitcoin is a cool thing to speculate on and all, but to buy graphics cards with Bitcoin? You are basically asking yourself to get scammed. At least intermediaries like Amazon or Ebay can help you, but I wouldn't dare do commerce with Bitcoin. Not yet, at any rate.

By saying "my linux box just got hacked, and now I'm going to get sued", he also pretty much said:

"I downloaded something from an untrusted source, intentionally set it to executable, and then intentionally executed it. I gave the hacker your money. Now I am going to get sued because I am an idiot."

hahaha right on the money :D

Good luck with that.

https://clearcoin.appspot.com/escrow


I was too harsh in my first reply. Clearcoin is an excellent option for buyers, but only in the non-donate option. Had this transaction been using Clearcoin, all the buyers would get their coins back. Stay far away from sellers that require the donate option. Once the coins are in donation-escrow and the seller backs out, like this one did, the only way the buyer can get the coins back is to release them to the seller. That's exactly what a scamming seller wants!!!

Most unconvincing OP ever. I'm amazed that he did ask for donations to recoup the 'hack'.

There have been Linux security vulnerabilities before, you know. As in bona-fide, open the wrong webpage and get instantly hacked vulnerabilities. In fact, most of the security issues in programs like Flash and Firefox apply just as much on Linux as on Windows these days, it's just that no-one really bothers to target Linux desktops. Bitcoin seems like a very worthwhile reason for some hacker to change that.

Someone actually managed to hack into my Linux box yesterday through some SSH hole. Luckily I didn't have my wallet sitting around. I'm amazed that the hole was there by default (I installed SSH and figured it would only work for my username).

Good point, Imperi. He could also be saying "I forgot to change the default config on my new install of SSH, and now I'm going to be sued because I am an idiot."

Especially after that whole debacle with the iPhone - or was it Android - I can remember, But a bunch of phones got hacked via the default ssh password.

So is this new troll policy???

Always keep a fresh topic on the list about a hack or BTC theft. I swear I've read this same post and the same tone several times now. Even some of the same words of desperation.

Any newbie or reporter that comes by will see it posted there.

I'm sorry but I just don't buy it. I call BS of the highest order.

such a coincidence http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=19630.0

Brothers, gonna have to do some reading here.....

If all that's true, you're holding board member BTC. Correction, you were. I hope to god you ship out those cards or your the thief.

Don't expect sympathy for DEMANDING people meet you on your terms, not use escrow, collect payment before shipping......

I smell a set up. Let's  bring those other members to this thread and figure this out.

The only one of my Linux machines that got hacked was hacked in a similar way, except it was a VPS and my mistake was not realising that HyperVM was sneakily resetting my root password to the provider-set default of "changeme" behind my back. (Surprisingly, even then it seems it took several days for anyone to actually brute-force their way in.)

I invited the members, please don't PM them so they get barraged.

Here's a bit of idle sleuthing:

The 16k6Keq... address is labelled "OP a/c" as it is self-identified in a subsequent post at June 21, 2011, 01:27:54 pm.

The blocks are in date order.


-----

Block 132307 2011-06-21 13:00:14
From: misc small
From: 1KJN1KGGJCLLpTXeGpv3YLXb14QCPBHrXZ: 211 (??)
to: 16k6KeqY13MEwXCKa6uMWvsg7Bmqq1TzXb: 228 (OP a/c)

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Block 132313 2011-06-21 13:21:39
From: (mostly) 1CzYyxkCkRd2R5JqHYsYgaxw14Xdqq9mQE: 0.45
to: 16k6KeqY13MEwXCKa6uMWvsg7Bmqq1TzXb: 0.5 (OP a/c)

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http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=20594.0
Bitcoin wallet problem. Coins not showing up. Please Help!
June 21, 2011, 01:27:54 pm


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Block 132345 2011-06-21 17:58:21
From: 16k6KeqY13MEwXCKa6uMWvsg7Bmqq1TzXb: 228 (OP a/c)
to: 1MQhCaxAkbcFwAxNiL37sJfwk25cJ39F6u: 150 (?)
to: 1PWjXneVnL9T3yqTg5mLr2b7xGWvhLiGD: 78 (see end of post for follow-up transfer)

-----


assume legit transaction

Block 132613 2011-06-22 17:54:09
To: 1HnrkZinXsb7BVg6Cid82mkH2iGZ2S46fm: 35 (OP a/c)

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Block 132640 2011-06-22 20:12:33
From: 1HnrkZinXsb7BVg6Cid82mkH2iGZ2S46fm: 35 (OP a/c)
to: 16k6KeqY13MEwXCKa6uMWvsg7Bmqq1TzXb: 35 (OP a/c)

-----

So at this point the BTC in question are still in Immune's control as he is still transferring coins to this same 16k6Keq address. Note the transfer out of this address of 228 BTC the previous day.

Immune (OP) posts at 2011-06-23 00:45:26 saying 400 BTC stolen "hours" ago. But there are no transfers out of this address since Block 132640 2011-06-22 20:12:33, when OP sent 35 BTC to this same address.

16 hours later, a transfer is made from this address of 35 BTC:

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Block 132843 2011-06-23 16:44:38
From: 16k6KeqY13MEwXCKa6uMWvsg7Bmqq1TzXb: 35 (OP a/c)
to: 17u8j4Eu2LnsY8pGKaXgayoKrASmfGScFW: 30
to: 16paRtbrHkzetP22NUAJGzPAvjR5Uzijz2: 5

-----

And a follow-up of the transfer:

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Block 132764
2011-06-23 08:07:15
From: 1PWjXneVnL9T3yqTg5mLr2b7xGWvhLiGD: 78
plus 15 others totalling 750 BTC
to: 167uGc235YogUFFRqLyvoaXoA7GdXozqYi: 750

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Block 132831
2011-06-23 15:30:27
From: 167uGc235YogUFFRqLyvoaXoA7GdXozqYi: 750
to: 1DvJjEapvLLY6fkbECxNsrczrhwvqPFVay: 747
to: 19m847ob4dBwQGpVnetefjKYLWJU7jPtBE: 3

-----

Any further comments, Immune?

That's why you *never* enable password access on SSH, and certainly never allow remote root logins.

Wow immune... I hope you're on the run, like now.  Because people are going to be after you like dogs on... a hot dog (both kinds).

Anyway, this is exactly why I wish more people would start using bitcoinfeedback.  With lots of usage, buyers would start to have power to say "I won't buy from anyone with less that X number of feedback".  Sure, you could still get screwed over, but don't buy 10 6990's from a guy who has only sold resistors and gumpacks before, and you should be ok.

So if he was hacked, has anyone mentioned the irony, with his handle being immune. :)

This was a problem from first post, now with teh sleuthing it seems you are a crook and this was your plan the whole time, Hiding behind bitcoin is possible but not fool proof so I hope someone gets their hands on you.

Diki thinks half of the people in the thread should see a psychiatrist.

As immune hasn't even posted yet...

Do you always refer to yourself in third person?

Only when the time is right.

Awesome sleuthing, spruce.  I'd tip you if I wasn't so cheap! :)

There are quite a few other ways to exploit a box running Linux. Attempting the method you described there would be my last thought.

Wow, I hope this guy gets what is coming to him.  What a dolt.

Anyone who uses bitcoins as currency right now is an idiot.  This is scammer's paradise right here.  Hell, we can't even trust the pools or exchanges at this point, who the hell is trusting some ass from a forum who is basically completely anonymous?  Hard to feel any sympathy at all for people who so easily fall prey to scam artists.

Twice a day? :)

Nope it takes a idiot to blame a transparent currency for people's stupidity !! The pools are up front with their charges. There will always be people that are out there to scam you it's down to you to have your shuts about you and not get caught.

Also I see a lot of people winging about bitcoin but you have to see it for what it is. And there are so many open oppotunities for people to make legal money out of bitcoin and make this currency great. It's a shame there's lots of greedy people and also a shame more people are putting their skills into establishing flourishing businesses and really make bitcoin a reallity. Might get flamed for saying but it's just my opinion ;).

Umm, just wanted to clarify here...is that really what you wanted to say or did you mean the opposite.

Hahaha yup you know what I meant ;D

All I can say is this: If it sounds too good to be true, It usually is!

 I knew something seemed off about his selling thread for the 10 6990's. I talked it over with a Mod, he confirmed his IP was the same, so he wasn't hacked. I just passed him off as a scammer. If there is one thing I've learned from online marketplaces, If you miss one good deal, there will always be another somewhere else. (Life lesson learned from playing Neopets and Gaiaonline)

OP, on the off chance you are reading this:

You may wish to read up on the Wire Fraud Act.  For example, http://www.lorandoslaw.com/FAQ/Wire-Fraud.shtml

Pay close attention to the essential elements of what constitutes wire fraud.  Interstate commerce is pretty important to the US government at a Federal level.  This isn't small claims Judge Judy stuff if that's what you're expecting.  Violation of the Wire Fraud Statute can result in a fine, imprisonment of up to 20 years, or both.  You sure you want to risk it for $6000?

Yep I entirely agree with your sentiment. It seems bitcoins rampant popularity growth might be the very thing that hurt it the most. A slow and gradual adoption curve would've been ideal. This way it would've given more time for entrepreneurs to get in and build a solid economic base. But I think we are straying off-topic here so I shall leave it at that.

@OP...could you post IP logs perhaps? Anything?

@the rest of you.....so the general consensus is that this claim is false?

I see a problem with your Pointing out the Wire Fraud Act. In order to press charges under said act, the government would have to accept that Bitcoin is in fact, Money! .... Oh wait, that might be a good thing! PRESS CHARGES ASAP!

Not at all.  The defendent enriched himself by $xxx as seen by deposit into account YYY.  Money obtained by fradulent means using a complex scheme involving the internet.  Bitcoins wouldn't even need to be mentioned except as a footnote.

Transaction logs prove that at the time of the original post, he was still in possession of the BTC (they had not been transferred from the wallet they were sent to by at least one purchaser).

I see..that explains why the OP hasn't attempted to defend himself.

At least you guys managed to find out who he is.

Any response from this Jack-ass yet?

He hasn't been online since 3 minutes after his original post. I'd say it's safe to say he won't be back around.

He did text me and email me saying he really wants to fix this. I'll screenshot it and upload it when my partner drops my phone off.

Of course I leave my phone in his truck as soon as I need it.






He sounds legitimate, he went out of his way to tell me he wants to make it right. We'll see what happens.

He wants to make what right, specifically?  He asked for money for a tangible item.  Money exchanged hands, but a tangible item has not yet been exchanged.  It doesn't matter at all what happens after the fact.  You have him BTC in exchange for a tangible item.  If he does not give it, he is a theif.  Period.  There should be NO QUESTION about what happens next.  He should give you the item you paid for and he should continue to try and get his money back from the theif that took HIS money.  But at this point it has nothing at all to do with the people that gave him money in exchange for product.

nice... going to be toting around that 7k debt for awhile.  Im betting he rang up his credit card to buy 10 cards, and now his coins are either goxed or something.

If it were me, i'd put those 10 cards up on amazon at 1300 a piece and buy 10 more.

He basically had his drug dealer front him 7 grand worth of video cards, and now he cant pay!

So what really happened here? I see OP has gotten a nice change of nick to disassociate himself with this failure, but other than that?

why would you bring up this very unfortunate situation that happened months ago? I am sorry you got labeled as a scammer but I did not scam anyone.

Within days of MTGox getting hacked over the summer so was my linux box this was way before we had encrypted wallets and I was ripped off, a lot of my own money and a lot of other peoples money

I have since made arrangements to pay this back although I did not steal anything I felt responsible for it so I wanted to make right on it

this is the reason I was not labeled a scammer

yes I changed my "nick" but my name has not changed - something I have always been very public about.

Please go troll some place else.

further more not only have I made right on that situation but I have also conducted thousands of dollars in positive transactions on this forum since then, there is not a single person on this forum or any where else that can call me a scammer.