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Title: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 12, 2017, 09:43:00 PM I did a PayPal deal with gameristo a couple of weeks back. My bitcoin for his PayPal.
He sent the PayPal funds through two different accounts, which I found suspicious. The accounts had different names. Then today, he sent $170 PayPal which I did not request, from yet another PayPal address,along with this PM: Hello Friend now I have got 380 USD paypal balance in new paypal account so I sent you some funds as below You've sent 170,00 USD to belowthepovertyline@gmail.com please accept payment even if you have NO any more coins right now and I am fine to wait some days like 2 to 5 days or bit more time before you able to pay back me any coins also its fine if you can pay back me in parts like 0.015 or 0.02 btc each time etc' and remember that I always fully responsible for my any paypal payments and some time my sender paypal change but still 100% clean legit funds and I always ready refund back ur coins if even any issue you found in my payment so please DO NOT refund and just keep or use funds yourself or cash out to your bank etc and I can wait until you able to pay back me coins you can transfer back coins in parts to my old one btc wallet address as mention in my profile please first update me or ask me before do any action about paypal payment accept or refund etc and do not do any action so fast without asking me first waiting for your friendly response back Regards I bolded the above part. I then sent him this PM: Please don't send money to me again without a prior deal. And I did refund the $170 right back to the address he sent it from. If I was computer-competent enough to know how to do a screenshot I would include it here. I don't have $170 in bitcoin at the moment, since I just bought something with what I had. I will send what you sent me right back to the account it came from. I don't want to be involved in any money laundering, which is why I'm not sending the money to another address. I'm not calling him a scammer, but this is bizarre behavior at best. Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: subSTRATA on September 12, 2017, 11:07:04 PM he's sent me messages as well, even after explicitly stating that I didn't need a trade. I've left a screenshot as reference to a rating on his profile of the message he sent me if you care to see. seems like he does this with everybody though, judging from the ratings on his profile.
also for screenshots, try out sharex, makes it real simple and uploads them to imgur for you as well. Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 12, 2017, 11:50:54 PM he's sent me messages as well, even after explicitly stating that I didn't need a trade. I've left a screenshot as reference to a rating on his profile of the message he sent me if you care to see. seems like he does this with everybody though, judging from the ratings on his profile. I haven't even looked at his feedback lately. I did figure I wasn't the only one he was spamming with requests.also for screenshots, try out sharex, makes it real simple and uploads them to imgur for you as well. I have a concern about the multiple PayPal accounts and why anyone in their right mind would send PP funds without any agreement being made beforehand. Right now I'm not concerned about the screenshot thing, as he's not claiming I never returned the funds and hopefully he'll come here to verify it. The whole situation is bizarre. Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: magneto on September 13, 2017, 08:49:34 AM I personally find this sort of activity extremely shady.
He is most likely using Stealth paypal accounts as well which means you never are trading with his main account. It seems dodgy that he is trying to do payments from two accounts, instead of one as well. Seems like he has done the same sort of thing to what1005: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1992018.msg21780947#msg21780947 Thankfully i didn't trade with him. I was going to contact him and look for a deal but decided against it when i saw his post history. Be extra careful with PP, man. Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: Joel_Jantsen on September 13, 2017, 02:28:06 PM Let me get this straight,the accused is sending free money to everyone ? I read the bold part that says "Please do not refund",I don't use paypal and don't know how it works but giving free money does seem suspicious to me.I don't know money laundering defines the case at it's best.
Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: subSTRATA on September 13, 2017, 02:36:01 PM Let me get this straight,the accused is sending free money to everyone ? I read the bold part that says "Please do not refund",I don't use paypal and don't know how it works but giving free money does seem suspicious to me.I don't know money laundering defines the case at it's best. i think this may have just been onf off case involving the pharmacist, but then again, I could be wrong. the main problem is that the user is extremely insistent on paypal trades and going as far as to force them on people, as was in this case here. in my instance, i informed the user that I did not need a bitcoin -> paypal trade any longer, in reference to a thread I put up on the currency exchange that same day. However, even after being informed that i did not need a trade, gameristo either did not understand what 'no' meant or decided to attempt to push a deal onto me, asking for my paypal email address and saying 'ill send first, you dont even have to send me bitcoin for a few days.' other than the fact that this reeks of trust farming, it's just shady, given that he's using multiple paypal accounts and going as far as to force a deal onto someone. the fact that he's willing to just send money without any promise or deal for compensation, along with his using of multiple accounts, leads me to believe these paypal accounts may be stolen / hacked, and they might just be looking for a quick cashout. I have a concern about the multiple PayPal accounts and why anyone in their right mind would send PP funds without any agreement being made beforehand. - The whole situation is bizarre. Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: Timelord2067 on September 14, 2017, 12:22:21 AM News just in from gameristo's Trust Wall (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=214455):
[img width=800]https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/17/blob1fb313eb8a386fac.jpeg[/img] [img width=800]https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/17/blob54b3b6cf6a390ece.jpeg[/img] [img width=800]https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/17/blob4e3a122a31dadfa2.jpeg[/img] I've just made a connection between humbertdice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1106392) and previous scammer alts ( Humbertin ... et al) so add more self vouching to the list of things this scammer's done. gameristo seems to be staying under the radar just enough to give (or receive) trust to others who are actually alts... Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: xypos on September 14, 2017, 01:54:44 AM He's definitely not doing this just to you but rather a whole range of people including what1005.
It seems like he is trying to get rid of his Paypal funds as soon as possible, and using multiple accounts to do it. He is definitely doing some shady stuff, and definitely violating paypal terms and conditions as they actually don't allow two personal accounts at one time owned by one person. Hopefully he does not chargeback anything... Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 14, 2017, 02:38:58 AM Hopefully he does not chargeback anything... Yeah, no kidding. That's what I'm worried about. That and the fact that he's shown me he has at least three different PayPal accounts he uses. I removed the positive trust I left him from the first deal we did. Even though it went smoothly, I wouldn't deal with him again and would recommend anyone else think twice before doing so.Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: xypos on September 14, 2017, 04:01:41 AM Hopefully he does not chargeback anything... Yeah, no kidding. That's what I'm worried about. That and the fact that he's shown me he has at least three different PayPal accounts he uses. I removed the positive trust I left him from the first deal we did. Even though it went smoothly, I wouldn't deal with him again and would recommend anyone else think twice before doing so.Looked through his exchange thread and this person seems to be an alt of his: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653533. This user was the first person that replied on his exchange thread, and he basically uses the exact same grammar. He also got negged for using paypal stealth accounts. Using multiple accounts isn't even the major issue here, but he seems to be an endless supply of paypal funds. And plus he seems to not want to hold these funds... Please nobody deal with him and DT member should tag him. Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: Vod on September 14, 2017, 08:53:43 AM Hopefully he does not chargeback anything... Yeah, no kidding. That's what I'm worried about. That and the fact that he's shown me he has at least three different PayPal accounts he uses. I removed the positive trust I left him from the first deal we did. Even though it went smoothly, I wouldn't deal with him again and would recommend anyone else think twice before doing so.I think you are going to get hit with chargebacks (can happen up to six months (180 days) later) once the account owners discover the hack. :/ Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: Timelord2067 on September 14, 2017, 12:28:28 PM Looked through his exchange thread and this person seems to be an alt of his: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653533. This user was the first person that replied on his exchange thread, and he basically uses the exact same grammar. He also got negged for using paypal stealth accounts. Using multiple accounts isn't even the major issue here, but he seems to be an endless supply of paypal funds. And plus he seems to not want to hold these funds... Please nobody deal with him and DT member should tag him. If btclight is indeed gameristo, (and by extension Humbertin etc) then their own last active dates cross confirm: Code: 25 June 2017, 01:49:36 Last Active: ser1ck u=524606 http://archive.is/1H3aQ btclight: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653533;sa=showPosts;start=0 07 September 2017, 15:03:54 posts three times 29 July 2017, 13:27:42 posts twice 24 July 2017, 16:47:59 posts four times 05 July 2017, 21:28:57 posts twice 13 June 2017, 19:06:57 posts six times 05 June 2017, 15:18:45 posts twice Code: 04 February 2017, 22:20:13 Date Registered: HumberDice u=951868 http://archive.is/qhiEg 13 April 2017, 21:36:52 posts once 31 January 2017, 16:13:09 posts five times 23 January 2017, 14:01:16 posts four times 16 December 2016, 16:17:37 posts twice Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: xypos on September 24, 2017, 07:26:34 AM This person is still doing business and constantly bumping his thread up. Seems like he still has a lot of paypal left for trading that could potentially come from fraudulent sources. Plus, he is evading this accusation entirely as well which basically proves that he is nervous about answering this.
A warning trust should at least be put on his trust page. OP, hopefully no chargebacks yet? Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: bitcoin revo on September 24, 2017, 08:59:18 PM OP, hopefully no chargebacks yet? Not OP, but I've dealt with gameristo in a similar fashion as The Pharmacist has and there have been no chargebacks yet. It's been 12 days since the original accusation was posted. I'll send gameristo a PM directing his attention here, but I'm sure that other members have already done so. IMO, a negative rep as a warning is in order if the Pharmacist sent him a PM when he created this thread and gameristo hasn't had any reply. Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: gameristo on September 25, 2017, 02:58:10 AM OP, hopefully no chargebacks yet? Not OP, but I've dealt with gameristo in a similar fashion as The Pharmacist has and there have been no chargebacks yet. It's been 12 days since the original accusation was posted. I'll send gameristo a PM directing his attention here, but I'm sure that other members have already done so. IMO, a negative rep as a warning is in order if the Pharmacist sent him a PM when he created this thread and gameristo hasn't had any reply. thanks bitcoin revo for private message and inform about this topic sorry for some of guys feel not good as I was sent message about exchange I already explain on this forum 3 years ago all about my paypal funds and traded already here from 3 years and some time change paypal account and traded with many trusted members on this forum and still NO any complains or no one got any charge backs or etc I sent many payments years ago on this fourm trusted members and after 2 years still never got any issue or problem or charge backs in payments and paypal funds always clean legit and all funds Never come from bank or credit card but always from paypal balance I was sent advance money to an guy as was traded with them already but once they inform that they can not accept then I was told them just issue refund back paypal so there is nothing wrong here and even I ready to proof to forum members "subSTRATA" and "Pharmacist" and again ready you guy some paypal funds now and just ready wait you guys for full 180 days before you pay back me any money so sounds fair now? tell me and I will send money now without escrow and will forget for 180 days ok?? I even some forum members still own my money and still never paid back me like forum member "snerrad: I was trust them and sent 140 USD paypal and now 2 months passed and still no reply from him Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: gameristo on September 25, 2017, 03:09:35 AM News just in from gameristo's Trust Wall (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=214455): https://i.imgur.com/Atlynm1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/l8uQfKZ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/xnykGmM.jpg I've just made a connection between humbertdice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1106392) and previous scammer alts ( Humbertin ... et al) so add more self vouching to the list of things this scammer's done. gameristo seems to be staying under the radar just enough to give (or receive) trust to others who are actually alts... and Timelord2067 I was replied to your previous thread already but you was never replied I never belong to above mention forum member and traded here from 3 years with many trusted members including ghibly79 Bitrent and others smoothly and still NO any issue in payments I was traded small amount 10 usd with calcoin and can show paypal transfer proof as well as coin received proof` Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: gameristo on September 25, 2017, 03:13:28 AM Hopefully he does not chargeback anything... Yeah, no kidding. That's what I'm worried about. That and the fact that he's shown me he has at least three different PayPal accounts he uses. I removed the positive trust I left him from the first deal we did. Even though it went smoothly, I wouldn't deal with him again and would recommend anyone else think twice before doing so.I think you are going to get hit with chargebacks (can happen up to six months (180 days) later) once the account owners discover the hack. :/ Vod I traded here from 3 years and was sent payments 2 years ago and still never got any issue or charge backs paypal funds clean and Never got via credit card or bank and its from paypal balance Vod I also can send you some paypal funds now and can wait full 180 days to proof that funds will never got any charge backs and also always ready to refund back coins if ever found any issue in payment thanks Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 25, 2017, 03:29:51 AM Gameristo, I stopped short of calling you a scammer or money launderer. I'm not necessarily worried about a chargeback, because you do have an extensive history of successful trades.
There's two things about this: First, you are sending money to a person unsolicited, and second you're using PayPal accounts with different names. That second part to me is very shady. And it puts me in an awkward position and makes me do transactions I don't want to do. Can you please verify here that you received the $170 back from me? And I didn't understand what you said about refunding you. I was under the impression that you wanted to be contacted first before refunding to the same address, which is exactly what I did. OP, hopefully no chargebacks yet? Nope, not yet.Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: gameristo on September 25, 2017, 03:42:42 AM Gameristo, I stopped short of calling you a scammer or money launderer. I'm not necessarily worried about a chargeback, because you do have an extensive history of successful trades. There's two things about this: First, you are sending money to a person unsolicited, and second you're using PayPal accounts with different names. That second part to me is very shady. And it puts me in an awkward position and makes me do transactions I don't want to do. Can you please verify here that you received the $170 back from me? And I didn't understand what you said about refunding you. I was under the impression that you wanted to be contacted first before refunding to the same address, which is exactly what I did. OP, hopefully no chargebacks yet? Nope, not yet.very thanks The Pharmacist for reply back here okay I fully understood your concern yes its my mistake to send you funds advance without askinbg y first but I did it as we traded already 166 paypal so was think that you may be accept funds if send you without asking as we traded already but ok I was wrong that its not good to send funds fast even without asking first yes I was fine to refund back paypal funds to same sender paypal account as was transferred from and nothing problem with this yes right I already received back full 170 amount refund in paypal from you about paypal account so I explain it already 3 years ago on this forum, yes some times paypal account change as work freelancer and mostly received funds only in paypal and need get new paypal but still nothing wrong and I still can able to transactions from old one paypal account as well thanks Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: gameristo on September 25, 2017, 11:34:03 AM I seen profile feed back and seen that forum members "Zepher", "EcuaMobi" ,"Vod" and subSTRATA submitted wrong feed back to my profile without any proper reasons
so I now offering all you guys that provide your paypal id and I ready send you guys some paypal funds as GIFT payment and ready wait full 180 days before you pay back even 1 cent of coins I am waiting for you all guys now if you NOT accept my offer then please remove your wrong feed backs from my profile as if you want me proof my paypal funds then I ready send first without escrow and willing to wait full 180 days no one even can beat this offer on this forum as I am sure that No one ever willing to wait 180 days long time for get back btc waiting for you guys now Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: subSTRATA on September 25, 2017, 12:54:50 PM i've told you the same thing in out previous pm exchange, i have no need to make a trade right now. i dont care that you're willing to send me paypal funds and give it 180 days, i have no need to make a trade at this time. the pharmacist has already stated my exact thoughts on the matter in his previous post in this thread:
Gameristo, I stopped short of calling you a scammer or money launderer. I'm not necessarily worried about a chargeback, because you do have an extensive history of successful trades. the quoted portion sums up my thoughts pretty neatly. you do have an extensive history of successful trades dating back quite some time, but again, i have no need for paypal money. it's quite strange to me that you're so ready and willing to send me money, and even going as far as to wait 180 days before being given bitcoin in return, but even stranger that you're insistent on making a deal with me even after i've clearly stated that i have no need for a trade. There's two things about this: First, you are sending money to a person unsolicited, and second you're using PayPal accounts with different names. That second part to me is very shady. And it puts me in an awkward position and makes me do transactions I don't want to do. - Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: gameristo on September 25, 2017, 02:04:50 PM i've told you the same thing in out previous pm exchange, i have no need to make a trade right now. i dont care that you're willing to send me paypal funds and give it 180 days, i have no need to make a trade at this time. the pharmacist has already stated my exact thoughts on the matter in his previous post in this thread: Gameristo, I stopped short of calling you a scammer or money launderer. I'm not necessarily worried about a chargeback, because you do have an extensive history of successful trades. the quoted portion sums up my thoughts pretty neatly. you do have an extensive history of successful trades dating back quite some time, but again, i have no need for paypal money. it's quite strange to me that you're so ready and willing to send me money, and even going as far as to wait 180 days before being given bitcoin in return, but even stranger that you're insistent on making a deal with me even after i've clearly stated that i have no need for a trade. There's two things about this: First, you are sending money to a person unsolicited, and second you're using PayPal accounts with different names. That second part to me is very shady. And it puts me in an awkward position and makes me do transactions I don't want to do. - Mr subSTRATA I NO even need to trade with you but I only offer you that funds clean legit and if you NO accept my offer then okj just remove your wrong feed back from my profile and thats it if you NOT going to remove your wrong feed back then accept my offer or do 1 thing thats it and see my all replies as below carefully again and see explain already everything here and seach my 3 years old posts that I was already explain everything again I NO need trade with you, you even NOT much trusted here while I traded with too much trusted members like Bitrent and ghibly79 and others whose much friendly and happy to trade with me so why ever I need such shit Indian guy whose have lot of free time to submit to others wrong feed backs??? all I just want you never submit feed back wrong to some one while you even never trade with them in your life Quote thanks bitcoin revo for private message and inform about this topic sorry for some of guys feel not good as I was sent message about exchange I already explain on this forum 3 years ago all about my paypal funds and traded already here from 3 years and some time change paypal account and traded with many trusted members on this forum and still NO any complains or no one got any charge backs or etc I sent many payments years ago on this fourm trusted members and after 2 years still never got any issue or problem or charge backs in payments and paypal funds always clean legit and all funds Never come from bank or credit card but always from paypal balance I was sent advance money to an guy as was traded with them already but once they inform that they can not accept then I was told them just issue refund back paypal so there is nothing wrong here and even I ready to proof to forum members "subSTRATA" and "Pharmacist" and again ready you guy some paypal funds now and just ready wait you guys for full 180 days before you pay back me any money so sounds fair now? tell me and I will send money now without escrow and will forget for 180 days ok?? I even some forum members still own my money and still never paid back me like forum member "snerrad: I was trust them and sent 140 USD paypal and now 2 months passed and still no reply from him Quote and very thanks The Pharmacist for reply back here okay I fully understood your concern yes its my mistake to send you funds advance without askinbg y first but I did it as we traded already 166 paypal so was think that you may be accept funds if send you without asking as we traded already but ok I was wrong that its not good to send funds fast even without asking first yes I was fine to refund back paypal funds to same sender paypal account as was transferred from and nothing problem with this yes right I already received back full 170 amount refund in paypal from you about paypal account so I explain it already 3 years ago on this forum, yes some times paypal account change as work freelancer and mostly received funds only in paypal and need get new paypal but still nothing wrong and I still can able to transactions from old one paypal account as well thanks Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: Roboabhishek on September 25, 2017, 06:05:57 PM He sent me PM as well asking for bitcoins and applying case " urgent " with it.
Here's the screenshot that he's so desperate to sell those PayPal money " http://prntscr.com/gpkq9t " I am also not saying he's scamming but forcing someone to get PayPal cash is bad even when they have refused you once or twice. Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: BTCBLOGGER on September 25, 2017, 06:35:44 PM If I was computer-competent enough to know how to do a screenshot I would include it here. Just use that prntscr (Print screen) button in the right hand corner of your keyboard and open and program Image processing and paste using CTRL+V and save the file with a name and extension like jpg maybe proof.jpg or similar like this then you can upload it as usual image file.Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: gameristo on September 25, 2017, 11:14:55 PM thanks Roboabhishek for reply
well was need bit urgent some coins so was contacted anyways I always trade from years and some time try fast exchange and some time not much urgent I have right now available 650 EUR paypal balance but as NO need urgent exchange so just keep paypal for own use and no need exchange it fast so nothing wrong here if ask someone on forum for exchange and 3.5 years of previous trade history on this forum is enough to proof clean legit funds exchanged Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: xypos on September 28, 2017, 10:41:42 PM @gameristo
You do realize that you owning multiple paypal accounts and using them to exchange for bitcoin is against paypal's terms and conditions right? Plus, why do you need to change your paypal so often for "freelancing"? Doesn't make much sense. Unless of course you're trying to game the system of something. Just speculation, but what you are doing here is completely shady and i would recommend not even touching paypal trades for at least 180 days to avoid further negative feedbacks. Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 29, 2021, 07:48:23 PM This guy is BUYING accounts that does not belong to him here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313033.0 Yep, I agree with you that that's shady and I've always had a problem with his use of PayPal (I'm the member who started this thread). Aside from whatever he's doing with those PP accounts, I've found him to be nothing less than honest in my dealings with him, and he's had a few opportunities to scam me if he wanted to but didn't--however, that's as close as I'm going to get to vouching for him. The reason why I've never given him a positive trust is the same reason why I created this thread. He should come here and defend/explain what he's doing and maybe why, though I don't expect he will. Title: Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? Post by: DaveF on January 29, 2021, 08:03:51 PM I am *NOT* defending gameristo. Let me start with that.
Now...I have been using eBay and PayPal for over 20 years. About 6 weeks ago my PayPal account got semi-locked. I can cover shipping fees on eBay and withdraw to my bank account but I cannot sent to people, OR EVEN PAY MY EBAY FEES. Still locked today. The hoops they are making me jump through are insane. Long story, but it is what it is. If I was gameristo and made a living buying and selling BTC and other cyptos with PP, I would be really hurting. Having a spare account or 12 although 100% against PayPal rules and looks shady as fuck is kind of needed with PayPal unless you are just moving money to and from eBay. Sucks, but I can see why he is doing it. :( -Dave |
