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Title: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: glynbueso on September 13, 2017, 09:47:49 PM
Hi guys. We know that Bitcoin will be the first coin for some years at least.

But I´m thinking about China and the negative to accept Bitcoin. In this case, will the people move to anonymous coins? I have some examples:

*DASH
*MONERO
*DEEPONION (after Deepsend and Deeptrust will be implemented)
*ETC.

Is there a trend to buy more anonymous coins in the short / medium term? What do you think?

Thanks.



Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: statdude on September 13, 2017, 09:52:05 PM
I am investing in this trend also, but prefer ZEC (building atomic swaps for decentralized exchange) and XZC (no trusted setup, code is based on bitcoin)

XSPEC is a good dark horse. Ring sigs of Monero without the downsides of cryptonote


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: susila_bai on September 13, 2017, 09:53:34 PM
No i dont think that any other coin can take position of Bitcoin. as Bitcoin is not controlled by any developer and it is open source but other coins are controlled by their developers and anytime that coin can get dead or become scrap price.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: cenicsoft on September 13, 2017, 09:55:07 PM
The challenge with government regulation is the conversion from crypto to fiat, not so much the privacy of transactions. People using crypto for legitimate purposes, including trading don't seem to care much about transaction anonymity.

For dark web type transactions, I think you'll see the use of anonymous coins rise and for on blockchain transactions between large organizations that want to transfer large amounts of money without the public knowing about it.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: creative~mind on September 13, 2017, 10:49:00 PM
It's something that is going to attract a lot of speculators. But keep in mind that anonymity is also coming to Bitcoin, MimbleWimble seems to be a very solid technology.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: baam25 on September 13, 2017, 10:51:19 PM
Deeponion has too many shills on here so I don't trust it

I trust pivx and xvg and cloak

Privacy coins are doing to be absolutely huge in the future


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: mnemonicsoup on September 13, 2017, 10:59:39 PM
In order for a currency to be properly anonymous, it has to be truly fungible and that is where Dash, ZEC, Pivx and most others fall flat on their face. That is why I believe in Monero. All the FUD against Monero has been debunked. Put in the effort, read up on the topic.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: Maveth13 on September 13, 2017, 11:28:57 PM
Of course you would include deeponion, understandable though. I don't think people would move to one of these coins or any other coin just because of what China did. Sure they'd use those for trading, but they won't move or choose other coins over bitcoin.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on September 13, 2017, 11:36:06 PM
People will just do nothing with their bitcoin, everyone has a big trust to bitcoin and what's happening on it now is just a challenge that has been happening before. People will remain to invest in bitcoin and will keep on holding their btc's. And for those medium term of holding for another alt coin there are a lot of it but we don't know what's the most preferred.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: Timeclo on September 13, 2017, 11:42:41 PM
I think the privacy coins are trendy right now and it has a good reason. Not being able to track all your transactions and purchases and sells is a good benefit to the coin. I definitely want to do more research on these types of coins and invest in a couple.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: ManOnTheMoon on September 13, 2017, 11:45:03 PM
Jesus, DeepOnion airdrops really did a number on people. It's literally just a token with Tor built in. Tor nodes are notorious for easy to be compromised, so I fail to see how ONION is a truly anonymous coin.

The only real anon coins atm are XMR, it's fork Sumocoin, and XSPEC, as mentioned.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: shyliar on September 13, 2017, 11:47:12 PM
Anonymous coins will never be accepted in countries like China. Look how restrictive they are with something that can be tracked. Likely, many other countries including the United States will ban them if they ever become popular. Just think about it, the policing agencies will never accept not being able to track drug money. It's that simple. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just delusional. Anonymous coins are the riskiest to own because when the hammer comes down they will be nearly worthless.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: rainingbitcoins on September 14, 2017, 12:11:00 AM
Bitcoin is the king.. I don't think that users will divert to anonymous coins as its likely to give them loss in long term and current dip in the price of bitcoin is temporary there is nothing at all to worry.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: e-coinomist on September 14, 2017, 12:20:49 AM
Anonymous coins will never be accepted in countries like China. Look how restrictive they are with something that can be tracked. Likely, many other countries including the United States will ban them if they ever become popular. Just think about it, the policing agencies will never accept not being able to track drug money. It's that simple. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just delusional. Anonymous coins are the riskiest to own because when the hammer comes down they will be nearly worthless.

The "follow the money trail" approach. But coins are mixable. Fun fact: This is how we do it, using bitcoin, since ages.
Deeponion actually never was needed.

What icks me more is the "follow the postoffice trail" approach. If any household ordered a parcel AND some tor network useage has been logfiled during the last monthes from the internet access of this household, the parcel gets inspected. Plain simple.
VPN useage getting filed as tor useage.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: Rastadon on September 14, 2017, 12:48:39 AM
Hi guys. We know that Bitcoin will be the first coin for some years at least.

But I´m thinking about China and the negative to accept Bitcoin. In this case, will the people move to anonymous coins? I have some examples:

*DASH
*MONERO
*DEEPONION (after Deepsend and Deeptrust will be implemented)
*ETC.

Is there a trend to buy more anonymous coins in the short / medium term? What do you think?

Thanks.


DASH and monero still become the best choice, but can you stop to mentioned the deep onion on your list, this looks you re a sales for the deep onion project to advertise its project everywhere.

Like you are making the deeponion such a crap one.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: sunhany on September 14, 2017, 12:58:32 AM
Hi guys. We know that Bitcoin will be the first coin for some years at least.

But I´m thinking about China and the negative to accept Bitcoin. In this case, will the people move to anonymous coins? I have some examples:

*DASH
*MONERO
*DEEPONION (after Deepsend and Deeptrust will be implemented)
*ETC.

Is there a trend to buy more anonymous coins in the short / medium term? What do you think?

Thanks.



Yes the trend live and running as we speak.

China just wants control over everything, BTC is relative new so they are on trial and error phase which is great for speculators and holders.

People are alredy moving to Monero and Dash but BTC is the most know crypto, word of mouth plays an important roll to where people tend to go.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: aeternus on September 14, 2017, 02:43:23 AM
Hi guys. We know that Bitcoin will be the first coin for some years at least.

But I´m thinking about China and the negative to accept Bitcoin. In this case, will the people move to anonymous coins? I have some examples:

*DASH
*MONERO
*DEEPONION (after Deepsend and Deeptrust will be implemented)
*ETC.

Is there a trend to buy more anonymous coins in the short / medium term? What do you think?

Thanks.


Some people may choose to do that but do not expect to see any kind of big movement to those coins, not many people in the forum need to reach that kind of privacy with their coins, so while it may seem a good idea I do not think those coins are going to get as much support as you think.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: Red-Apple on September 14, 2017, 02:52:35 AM
We know that Bitcoin will be the first coin for some years at least.
that will be many long years without any competition. sadly the altcoin market is not even close to some real usages.

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But I´m thinking about China and the negative to accept Bitcoin.
there has been nothing negative about China and bitcoin!!!
there has been FUD about China and bitcoin and that is very different.

banning ICOs or regulating exchanges to prevent money laundering is not called "negative to accept bitcoin."

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In this case, will the people move to anonymous coins?
in any case if the FUD were true some day. that is only going to be 1 country. it won't change anything at all.
and since people are trading around here and they ban exchanges they can not trade "anything" not just bitcoin. it won't matter if the coin is anonymous when the exchanges are closed.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: Will.Smith on September 14, 2017, 03:00:38 AM
While DASH, PIVX and XMR looks like best choices, but the coins like XVG has good potential and they are also much cheaper. I dont think we can compare them together in the technical part but if we looking for the good speculations then it could be it.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: BTCLovingDude on September 14, 2017, 03:47:56 AM
No they won't!

anonymous altcoins will always remain a currency to be used for illegal activities in the dark web and not much else in other places in real world and that is fine.

plus there will be nothing wrong with bitcoin, and there is nothing coming. it will remain the same and continue being adopted and grow.

of course trading is different. anon coins might see a pump if a hype really takes place and then fall down like always.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: cah ndablek on September 14, 2017, 04:18:15 AM
No, I keep picking at bitcoin anytime because since the beginning it has given me many benefits for my life so there is no thought to move to another coin.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: tazmania on September 14, 2017, 04:20:54 AM
No, I keep picking at bitcoin anytime because since the beginning it has given me many benefits for my life so there is no thought to move to another coin.

That is correct bitcoin is always the best as an investment as in long term it will always benefit you but there are also some good altcoins like ETH, ETC, XMR which cannot be ignored to make good profits.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: arwin100 on September 14, 2017, 04:25:00 AM
No, I keep picking at bitcoin anytime because since the beginning it has given me many benefits for my life so there is no thought to move to another coin.

That is correct bitcoin is always the best as an investment as in long term it will always benefit you but there are also some good altcoins like ETH, ETC, XMR which cannot be ignored to make good profits.

Bitcoin is the most preferred by almost 100% of the population who are in cryptoworld since at the very beginning this coin is flexible and most adopted but I'm so worried right now since the ETH cap is going down and the billion is now gone and it turnes to millions maybe it was been hit badly by the ICO banning since ETH is I think in worst situation right now.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: Iyeman on September 14, 2017, 04:27:08 AM
No, I keep picking at bitcoin anytime because since the beginning it has given me many benefits for my life so there is no thought to move to another coin.

That is correct bitcoin is always the best as an investment as in long term it will always benefit you but there are also some good altcoins like ETH, ETC, XMR which cannot be ignored to make good profits.
Bitcoin is not best as you say right now, you can see the fact that a lot of people are trying to buy the anonymous coin such as monero and how the charts already increased everytime and anytime.
A lot of disaster for crypto and they are want to stay anonymous.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: oreits11 on September 14, 2017, 04:44:19 PM


besides the chance as gains with the work on finance, as more developer occupy the use as delivering service,

the popularity should raise and more of users to improves the numbers of coins and use with daily lifes.



Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: statdude on September 14, 2017, 07:25:24 PM
No they won't!

anonymous altcoins will always remain a currency to be used for illegal activities in the dark web and not much else in other places in real world and that is fine.

plus there will be nothing wrong with bitcoin, and there is nothing coming. it will remain the same and continue being adopted and grow.

of course trading is different. anon coins might see a pump if a hype really takes place and then fall down like always.

Lots wrong with Bitcoin. Too slow and traceable. Also less price upside.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: rudystyle on September 14, 2017, 07:51:35 PM
Look at stash if you are searching for a new anonymous currency


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: qwizzie on September 14, 2017, 07:54:20 PM
I think those traders / investors / merchants that moved into Dash, may have other reasons besides just having transaction privacy.
Dash also offers :

* Attractive financial rewards to masternode owners
* Decentralized Budget and Governance system
* Instant transaction-confirmations (currently disabled due to a bug that has recentely been discovered, will be enabled again with the next update)
* Strong full nodes network with ASIC miners providing strong security to the network
* Clear and detailed roadmap to on-chain scaling in order to reach mainstream adaption
* Focus on improving its wallets in a decentralized user-friendly way for both merchants and users, through the upcoming major Dash Evolution update next year 
* Very low fees



 

 


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: wpalczynski on September 14, 2017, 08:13:01 PM
I don't think people will 'move' to anonymous but it can be interesting for some investment. People are always looking for a coin or type of coin to "overthrow" bitcoin but it's not gonna happen...


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: Karto on September 14, 2017, 08:18:39 PM
dont compare deep onion to this coins pls
its a shame XD
you better think about KMD and Hush ..


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: Forward_Thinking on September 14, 2017, 09:34:53 PM
Well, how often do you use your private browser setting? That's probably how often people will want these private coins. Just my guess.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: Scallywag on September 14, 2017, 09:43:44 PM
I still think btc is the best .
But anonimity is important to a lot of people in country's that maybe aren't so safe.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: Keihatsu on September 14, 2017, 09:44:10 PM
Zcoin ppl, Zcoin ppl


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: Zicadis on September 14, 2017, 09:49:46 PM
I do not think moving to an anonymous coin like monero or doing your crypto business behind the scene solves the current problem...we need a lasting solution and lets nott forget we cant run away from bitcoin which has the biggest community and widelt accepted cryptocurrency. Before people go on with panic selling these new regulations the chinese are putting up are mearnt to protect investors and the fiat community and not putting barriers


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: Forward_Thinking on September 14, 2017, 10:39:04 PM
I still think btc is the best .
But anonimity is important to a lot of people in country's that maybe aren't so safe.


That is a good point. In some countries privacy is much harder to find than in others so some countries might prefer the private coins more than others.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: nmaryrai on September 14, 2017, 10:47:45 PM
True, Bitcoin is first and foremost.
It could be, if the value of anonymous coin prices is high, they could just move to anonymous coins on the pretext of value, just as we do, we take an example: One day we want to sell gold, then we go to some gold shops. I'm sure, some of these gold shops give different prices. which gold store that gives a higher price, that's where we sell.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: glynbueso on September 14, 2017, 11:31:34 PM
Good answers, a lot of differents opinions. Some people didn´t contribute anything interesting to the thread, but this is usual in this forum.

Thanks for the rest of the people that shared interesting opinions.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: samus.aran on September 14, 2017, 11:38:28 PM
I don't think so, since anonymous cryptocurrencies would not prevent exchanges from being shut down.

What would gain more adoption would be an anonymous, decentralized exchange.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: Jack Lee2222 on September 14, 2017, 11:59:37 PM
Anonymous Coin is my favorite. But their aren't so much good   anonymous coins.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: chutchmcgillicutty on September 15, 2017, 01:07:41 AM
From what I understand XMR is hands down best privacy coin. Can anyone dispute this with facts to back up argument?


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: monkfishy on September 15, 2017, 01:23:31 AM
I wouldn't be surprise to see more are more existing coins trying to implement some kind of anonymity into their blockchain in the future, I reckon it'll stay in high demand.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: aeternus on September 19, 2017, 03:45:16 AM
No they won't!

anonymous altcoins will always remain a currency to be used for illegal activities in the dark web and not much else in other places in real world and that is fine.

plus there will be nothing wrong with bitcoin, and there is nothing coming. it will remain the same and continue being adopted and grow.

of course trading is different. anon coins might see a pump if a hype really takes place and then fall down like always.
Bitcoin was used like that at the beginning so we must not judge those coins so harshly besides the anonymity of those coins may come useful in order to improve that the coins are interchangeable, if that characteristic is lost in bitcoin then we cannot say that bitcoin is a currency anymore.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: rezurect on September 19, 2017, 03:47:27 AM
I think there is a very big chance of this happening, as more regulation seems to be incoming.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: erick94 on September 19, 2017, 03:59:43 AM
it is a discretionary policy of the buyer, we can not predict whether the buyer will switch to anonymous coins. but indeed there will be buyers who go there though not yet known the number of buyers.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: maydna on September 19, 2017, 04:20:57 AM
Hi guys. We know that Bitcoin will be the first coin for some years at least.

But I´m thinking about China and the negative to accept Bitcoin. In this case, will the people move to anonymous coins? I have some examples:

*DASH
*MONERO
*DEEPONION (after Deepsend and Deeptrust will be implemented)
*ETC.

Is there a trend to buy more anonymous coins in the short / medium term? What do you think?

Thanks.



i think they still using bitcoin and do buy and sell but maybe they are invest too with other coins like you mention it. its not about anonymous coins or not but its about the whole coins in crypto currency which people still want to invest. i see there are any good trend from the coins itself like the price is trying to go the higher price and many people is interested with trading so i think crypto currency will not stop because of china banning bitcoin.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: Lucky_U on September 19, 2017, 06:40:01 AM
When a leader goverments will enter regulations in crypto - anonymous coins, such a Monero, Komodo, would be popular.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: dewanaga on September 19, 2017, 07:18:11 AM
Hi guys. We know that Bitcoin will be the first coin for some years at least.

But I´m thinking about China and the negative to accept Bitcoin. In this case, will the people move to anonymous coins? I have some examples:

*DASH
*MONERO
*DEEPONION (after Deepsend and Deeptrust will be implemented)
*ETC.

Is there a trend to buy more anonymous coins in the short / medium term? What do you think?

Thanks.


I think for a platform that is not obviously able to join in monero, dash, let alone monero,
he already has anonymous that is difficult to trace


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: followmenot on September 19, 2017, 07:30:00 AM
I suppose there will be somekind of trend to moving anonymous coins in next 3 years. Bans killed the purpose of lot of coins so people will have doubts if their original coins would be forced out of markets or are they getting sued cause of holding them on national exchanges so on. Anon coins will solve lot of problems.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: aeternus on September 26, 2017, 05:03:17 AM
I wouldn't be surprise to see more are more existing coins trying to implement some kind of anonymity into their blockchain in the future, I reckon it'll stay in high demand.
There are several coins that do that but many have issues, monero supposedly gives great anonymity but the fact that the coin is not widely used and mostly criminals use it hurt its usage, also that coin does not scale at all so bitcoin will never have the anonymity model of monero.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: crossabdd on September 26, 2017, 05:06:00 AM
why not ?
bitcoin is anonymous, if the project concept is good, and the marketcap still low, im sure its worthed to joining investment, i see some anon project succes at last year, maybe i will invest at some anon project too.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: chutchmcgillicutty on September 26, 2017, 05:38:08 AM
When a leader goverments will enter regulations in crypto - anonymous coins, such a Monero, Komodo, would be popular.

How does Komodo's anonymity compare to Monero? I'm not super technical, but everything I have read about Monero leads me to believe that it is the best Anon coin


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: Kupid002 on September 26, 2017, 05:49:04 AM
No they won't!

anonymous altcoins will always remain a currency to be used for illegal activities in the dark web and not much else in other places in real world and that is fine.

plus there will be nothing wrong with bitcoin, and there is nothing coming. it will remain the same and continue being adopted and grow.

of course trading is different. anon coins might see a pump if a hype really takes place and then fall down like always.
Bitcoin was used like that at the beginning so we must not judge those coins so harshly besides the anonymity of those coins may come useful in order to improve that the coins are interchangeable, if that characteristic is lost in bitcoin then we cannot say that bitcoin is a currency anymore.

and as of that this prediction might happen that some of buyers will go for some anonymous coins we cant say that it cant be happen but we dont know what will come to the mind of some buyers we cant predict what they gonna do ok let say we believe that it cant happen but always think money is involve here.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: Natsuu on September 26, 2017, 06:20:46 AM
No they won't!

anonymous altcoins will always remain a currency to be used for illegal activities in the dark web and not much else in other places in real world and that is fine.

plus there will be nothing wrong with bitcoin, and there is nothing coming. it will remain the same and continue being adopted and grow.

of course trading is different. anon coins might see a pump if a hype really takes place and then fall down like always.
Bitcoin was used like that at the beginning so we must not judge those coins so harshly besides the anonymity of those coins may come useful in order to improve that the coins are interchangeable, if that characteristic is lost in bitcoin then we cannot say that bitcoin is a currency anymore.

I agree, we're not in the place to say such things because no one can really tell what's next to these coins.
I believe in monero as I see it really promising. Like bitcoin, the anonymity of these coins makes them popular and I think many are eyeing these because of its anonymity.


Title: Re: Will the buyers move to anonymous coins?
Post by: aeternus on September 30, 2017, 09:53:48 PM
I think there is a very big chance of this happening, as more regulation seems to be incoming.
I do no think regulation is going to be enough in order to do that, I think there will need to be a persecution of those that hold bitcoin in order to make people realize that anonymity is a main feature they want in their coins, at the moment most people are happy with their bitcoin that offers no anonymity.