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Title: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Mining Finished -- Full PoS
Post by: multipos on September 14, 2017, 12:51:34 PM
PoS-N

About

PoS-N not a coin. It is a blockchain with many coins. It is PURELY EXPERIMENTAL and no currencies on the chain may have any value whatsoever. The developer makes no promises to develop any infrastructure except a seed node and block crawler. Mine these currencies if you want to participate in this experiment.In this sense, it is very similar to bitcoin, in that the only value at the time of launch is what knowledge may come of the experiment.

If you want to mine coins on this chain only to dump them as soon as they hit an exchange YOU WILL HAVE TO DO THE WORK TO GET THE COINS YOU MINE LISTED. The goal of the experiment is NOT to make money for miners. Period. Miners need to form communities around their coins and do the work to make money. Remember: It is an experiment, and the only thing I will attempt to do is to make sure mining works, is fair, and that PoS will work.

So what is the experiment? The experiment is to find out the optimal interest rate for a proof of stake coin. Miners will mine the chain, and mine a different random currency with a different stake rate. Staking begins after the mining period.  The interest rates of the various coins in the random rotation follow the Fibonacci sequence: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, 377, 610, 987, 1597.

Because Every block miners (scrypt) will randomly mine one of many currencies, I don't know how pools will react or properly distribute currencies according to mining power.  I anticipate some confusion and perhaps errors with distribution from pools, so mine to pools at your own risk, and please do not blame pool operators for any problems in distribution. It will most likely not be their fault. Pools may or may not want to bother trying to adapt pool software to this chain. Whether they do or not has the same effect on everyone mining, so the process will be still be fair.

Mining is a flat reward for the currencies so that the last block will earn the same as the first block. Currencies in the random rotation are awarded 9375 coins per block. All currencies in the random rotation will have 63,000,000 money supplies at the end of mining.

I had to pick a currency for the GUI (which I needed for so-called "fair launch", this currency has the ticker of PSN, named after the chain. It is merely a matter of convenience and because it has an inflation rate of 1%, being the lowest number of the Fibonacci sequence. If you want to mine only this currency or any currency, set the mineonly flag to PSN in the config file. Even if you don't set the flag, you will randomly mine PSN.

My goal in choosing PSN for the GUI was not to play favorites, but to have a default currency for noobs who want to look at a GUI wallet. I also guessed that 1% interest rate may not be a great incentive for adoption, and that choosing this single currency for the GUI for launch would give it a significant advantage over other currencies.  The GUI should support as many currencies as needed in time, or specialized GUIs could be created for each currency if communities evolve around them.

All currencies are equals by the CLI client, which is what most experienced miners can use the CLI to create addresses and send coins. Instructions will be posted in time, or users can consult the help output of the CLI.

This coin is experimental, but in observation of good practice DOES have a fair launch period of one hour, or 300 blocks, of 1 coin per block. The regular PoW block reward is 9375 coins. Also in observation of fair launch practices, a windows wallet is available (necessitating having a default currency in the GUI).


Downloads

GitHub: https://github.com/multipos/pos-n

Latest Release: https://github.com/multipos/pos-n/releases/tag/v1.1.0.1

Windows Installer: https://github.com/multipos/pos-n/releases/tag/v1.1.0.1 (can't link directly to it here)

Windows Zip: https://github.com/multipos/pos-n/releases/download/v1.1.0.1/PoSN-Qt-1.1.0.1-Win32.zip

Mac DMG: https://github.com/multipos/pos-n/releases/download/v1.1.0.1/PoSN-Qt-1.1.0.1-OSX.dmg


VirusTotal

* Install-PoSN-1.1.0.1.exe
* https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/7cab4e475ec21dcdcc9ecc510ad13879cfaf7a9054d3a99b9d5b4f4ca5178558/detection
* 0/64

* PoSN-Qt-1.1.0.1-Win32.zip
* https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/a85641b82ea2f22ba9bdcf6a1ad7e92d7df0d538eeae0f430cfabf4253c11072/detection
* 0/61

* PoSN-Qt-1.1.0.1-OSX.dmg
* https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/09055c23f8d8d9d0bfbc0983569824489eb7c399f9dc53604a4d696385fa7ed3/detection
* 0/58

* PoSN-Daemon-1.1.0.1-Ubuntu-16.04.tar
* https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/86ed8bd7b3e43604204eb9038106bbad36ac5819d25fd946a03f3bd2e9dd7929/detection
* 0/58



Block Explorer

http://multipos.net:3001/


Mining

Mining is complete.

This coin can be mined with standard miners:

Code:
./minerd -a scrypt -u RPCUSERNAME -p RPCPASSWORD -o 127.0.0.1:50414

Stats

* Tickers of Random Rotation: PRM, PSN, P03 ... P17
* Algo: scrypt
* PoW Block Times: 12 Seconds
* PoS Block Times: 2 Minutes
* Max PoW for Random Rotation: 63,000,000
* Block Reward: 9375
* PoW Duration: 94478 blocks (~13 days)
* Fair Launch Duration: 300 Blocks (1 hr),
* Fair Launch Block Reward: 1 coin
* PoS Rewards (First 3 years):  1, 2, 3, 5 ... 1597%
* PoS Rewards (After 3 years): Lower of initial interest rate or 4%
* Peer-to-Peer Port: 29861 (testnet 29862)
* RPC Port: 50414 (testnet 50415)
* Net Magic: 0xef, 0xff, 0xfb, 0xed (testnet 0xf9, 0xbb, 0xfd, 0xff)


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: nagasaking on September 14, 2017, 01:42:54 PM
How to get free coin dev ?  :D


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: AmoreJaz on September 14, 2017, 01:49:48 PM
well i think i will keep a close eye on this one! i love the old style idea and approach!this could very well be the next coin! lololol


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: shidayat8 on September 14, 2017, 01:51:05 PM
How to get free coin dev ?  :D

I want it too, Free coin.  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: energ on September 14, 2017, 01:57:21 PM
And how to know which coin is mined or can you tell which are on the list?


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: shotgun1969 on September 14, 2017, 02:08:05 PM
This looks like a fair launch to me good going.  I just want to ask is pow a set amount of pow blocks or just x blocks total and could you let us know last pow block. Thank you


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: Sugar Daddy on September 14, 2017, 05:52:54 PM
Very interesting experiment.  I will watch to see the results and where it leads!


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: Fobos2017 on September 14, 2017, 07:34:14 PM
Mining pool ?


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: multipos on September 14, 2017, 08:16:34 PM
And how to know which coin is mined or can you tell which are on the list?

You will know from the wallet. In the GUI, you will see in Transactions tab. In the CLI, you can use the command listtransactions.


This looks like a fair launch to me good going.  I just want to ask is pow a set amount of pow blocks or just x blocks total and could you let us know last pow block. Thank you

It is in the ANN. All coins but 2 have a PoW max at 63,000,000. One can't be mined and one has 15 max.

Mining pool ?

No pool operators have come forth. I will try to set one up that mines directly into your wallet.


How to get free coin dev ?  :D

I am mining a lot of coins, so this may be possible, for bounties perhaps.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: shotgun1969 on September 14, 2017, 11:19:15 PM
  I have completly lost the network today while i was gone.   Does anyone have working nodes that i can add to the roaming folder.  Thankyou


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: multipos on September 15, 2017, 01:23:49 AM
 I have completly lost the network today while i was gone.   Does anyone have working nodes that i can add to the roaming folder.  Thankyou

Please restart your client. The seednode went down for a while and took the network with it. As more people jump on, things will improve.

I will set up a couple of more seednodes soon as well.



Also Please Update to the Latest Release

https://github.com/multipos/pos-n/releases/tag/v1.0.0.2

The previous release skipped some currencies for mining. This hits all currencies with coins left. Please mine with it.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: multipos on September 15, 2017, 09:25:46 AM
Though not added to the build yet as a hardcoded node, please use the following in your conf. I would add it but am looking at hosting providers for permanent nodes. The current hard coded one is permanent. I will add 2 more when I settle on hosting. The following is temporary:

addnode=162.254.26.79


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: shotgun1969 on September 15, 2017, 05:20:47 PM
 I am just trying to figure out how to see balances of the different coins in the wallet.   So in the conf file i would have to put in defaultcurrency=p10  and start the wallet up and it would show me the balance of the p10 coins and would also pos those coins?  I am not really positive about this and never tried a wallet quite like this one.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: lyynx on September 16, 2017, 12:59:42 AM
I so want to mine this, but I don't remember how to mine, I think I spent too much time on the POS side last couple years. Would love to see a pool. If anyone cab point me to a step by step resource to mine this on windows, would appreciate it. Meanwhile, I'll keep diggin


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: Hotachy on September 16, 2017, 01:08:45 AM
Try to up to Jr member faster and add some images)


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: shotgun1969 on September 16, 2017, 01:31:56 AM
I so want to mine this, but I don't remember how to mine, I think I spent too much time on the POS side last couple years. Would love to see a pool. If anyone cab point me to a step by step resource to mine this on windows, would appreciate it. Meanwhile, I'll keep diggin

 I would enjoy seening how a pool handles payout of multi coins mined in one wallet. If you have not mined this solo you should just to see what is happening.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: lyynx on September 16, 2017, 02:27:49 AM
omg, I feel like a crypto novice again

So here's what I've done so far.

I have my pos-n and cpuminer folders in the same folder on my c: drive

In my AppData folder, I created a pos-n.conf file with my settings

rpcuser=username
rpcpassword=password
rpcallowip=*
server=1 (i've tried with and without this)
addnode=162.254.26.79

I start my wallet, then CMD and paste the following
"C:\crypto\cpuminer\minerd.exe" -a scrypt -u username -p password -o 127.0.0.1:50414

I get that http failed and json error, any guidance much appreciated  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: shotgun1969 on September 16, 2017, 03:51:07 AM
omg, I feel like a crypto novice again

So here's what I've done so far.

I have my pos-n and cpuminer folders in the same folder on my c: drive

In my AppData folder, I created a pos-n.conf file with my settings

rpcuser=username
rpcpassword=password
rpcallowip=*
server=1 (i've tried with and without this)
addnode=162.254.26.79

I start my wallet, then CMD and paste the following
"C:\crypto\cpuminer\minerd.exe" -a scrypt -u username -p password -o 127.0.0.1:50414

I get that http failed and json error, any guidance much appreciated  :)

conf

rpcuser=
rpcpassword=
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcthreads=199
server=1
gen=0
daemon=1
listen=1
rpcport=50414
port=29861
addnode=80.208.230.14:29861
addnode=24.220.149.200
addnode=162.254.26.79

cpuminer-x64 -a scrypt -o http://127.0.0.1:50414 -u username -p xpassword -t 1


good luck with a cpu but this should work no problems.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: lyynx on September 16, 2017, 04:12:27 AM
Thank you, tried that as well with no luck. I have a really good GPU, perhaps I should go that route?

BTW, this is the exact error
HTTP request failed: Failed to connect to 127.0.0.1 port 50414
json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: shotgun1969 on September 16, 2017, 04:12:56 AM
minerd is the same    the -t 1 is how many cores of the cpu you want to use and you dont want to use all of the cores leave one core for the computer to run on.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: shotgun1969 on September 16, 2017, 04:13:51 AM
Thank you, tried that as well with no luck. I have a really good GPU, perhaps I should go that route?

BTW, this is the exact error
HTTP request failed: Failed to connect to 127.0.0.1 port 50414
json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds


can i ask is your gpu on the same computer as the wallet or not.

if not then use

rpcallowip=192.168.*.*

the astric is a wild card and any miner in the local network can mine on it.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: shotgun1969 on September 16, 2017, 04:16:46 AM
  Then just aim your miner at the computer with the wallet on it.   if that computers local address is 192.168.0.1   then use that address and :50414


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: shotgun1969 on September 16, 2017, 04:18:56 AM
ohh i just spotted your issue i had the same issue.  your conf file should be called posncoin.conf    then it will work perfectly.   i had the same issue yesterday.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: lyynx on September 16, 2017, 05:14:13 AM
ohh i just spotted your issue i had the same issue.  your conf file should be called posncoin.conf    then it will work perfectly.   i had the same issue yesterday.

Thank you so much, that was the issue.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: shotgun1969 on September 16, 2017, 05:25:31 AM
  if you get some blocks you will be lost but go to the debug window and check out the conf file parameters and there is some to change the wallet to different
coin names like p10    psn is the default coin so you could restart and see your balance of the p10 blocks.     you will see   its different than anything i have ever
mined. psn is the default coin so that is all the balance you will see until you restart the wallet with another coin as default.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: multipos on September 16, 2017, 06:16:22 AM

To see your balances go to Help -> Debug -> Console in the menu and type "getbalances".


I am mining with a lot of power right now. I don't know what others are mining with, but you need a real miner, not a USB stick.

If I dominate mining, we can have an airdrop / signature campaign or something. I would prefer mining though.

I'd like to get the coins distributed, but don't want the chain to be weak, so I am hitting it with decent hashes.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: multipos on September 16, 2017, 07:54:17 AM

I just realized I messed up the interest rates, but not fatally.

The interest rate calculations right now are based on any individual currency's getting all the blocks.

Of course this can't happen because there are 14 staking currencies, so in the future, shortly after the PoW period is over, I will change the calculation to something like this:

Code:
award = interest_rate_P * money_supply_P * (time_now - time_of_last_block_of_P) / (seconds_in_a_year * 100)

Where P is one of the staking currencies.

The 100 in the denominator simply means that interest_rate_P is expressed as a percentage. Although interest will compound every time a block is found for P, difficulty adjustments will prevent the compounding from influencing the interest rate to any non-trivial extent. Compounding is bounded by the continuous compounding equation, anyway.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: Blurb on September 16, 2017, 12:43:33 PM

"Tickers of Random Rotation: PSN, P03 ... P16"

I got a P17....



Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: lyynx on September 16, 2017, 04:28:49 PM

"Tickers of Random Rotation: PSN, P03 ... P16"

I got a P17....



Congrats. I'm still waiting for a block, but I'm only CPU mining right now, so I'll just need to get lucky.

If anyone has a PSN, feel free to throw my way, you'll be the first manual faucet :) Address in Sig below


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: Kisleav on September 16, 2017, 04:36:36 PM
so this is a new kind of software just like when bitcoin was just released, it is very amusing and cool with scrypt which is rather easy to mine with, i have no free scrypt miner but i will surely try it, who knows where it will take to.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: lyynx on September 16, 2017, 05:04:09 PM
so this is a new kind of software just like when bitcoin was just released, it is very amusing and cool with scrypt which is rather easy to mine with, i have no free scrypt miner but i will surely try it, who knows where it will take to.

Yes, I haven't mined since about 2013, but a launch like this, I'm onboard.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: crombiecrunch on September 16, 2017, 05:11:26 PM
Good afternoon!

PoS-N has been added to thecryptopool.com

-a scrypt -o stratum+tcp://thecryptopool.com:3433 -u <YOUR WALLET ADDRESS>

Happy mining.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: iluvCANNABIS on September 16, 2017, 05:18:51 PM
PoS Rewards (First 3 years):  1, 2, 3, 5 ... 1597%

I don't know? U can talk me?


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: crombiecrunch on September 16, 2017, 06:41:16 PM
We halted this coin for a few minutes while we sort an issue out with the stratum.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: thayimmy on September 16, 2017, 06:53:41 PM
Good afternoon!

PoS-N has been added to thecryptopool.com

-a scrypt -o stratum+tcp://thecryptopool.com:3433 -u <YOUR WALLET ADDRESS>

Happy mining.

Hello

thank you for starting a pool for this coin but i believe there is an issue with tha pool.

i have been solo mining thru tha wallet with about 5mh or so for about an hour and hit 2 blocks so i decided to rent some hash and point it to your pool (30ish mh) from MRR.

first i pointed a few of my own miners to tha pool to make sure i had tha settings correct and they appear to be hashing correctly but now i have added the rental hash to tha pool and appears to be hashing but for about 35-40 min no blocks have been found.

now it is showing that i have hit some Sexcoin Sxc under my PoS-n wallet address?

i am not sure how your pool would calculate a value of sexcoin to pos-n?

any way i now see you have stopped the pos-n pool for now.

i look forward to getting hashing again on PoS-n

thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: crombiecrunch on September 16, 2017, 07:01:54 PM
Good afternoon!

PoS-N has been added to thecryptopool.com

-a scrypt -o stratum+tcp://thecryptopool.com:3433 -u <YOUR WALLET ADDRESS>

Happy mining.

Hello

thank you for starting a pool for this coin but i believe there is an issue with tha pool.

i have been solo mining thru tha wallet with about 5mh or so for about an hour and hit 2 blocks so i decided to rent some hash and point it to your pool (30ish mh) from MRR.

first i pointed a few of my own miners to tha pool to make sure i had tha settings correct and they appear to be hashing correctly but now i have added the rental hash to tha pool and appears to be hashing but for about 35-40 min no blocks have been found.

now it is showing that i have hit some Sexcoin Sxc under my PoS-n wallet address?

i am not sure how your pool would calculate a value of sexcoin to pos-n?

any way i now see you have stopped the pos-n pool for now.

i look forward to getting hashing again on PoS-n

thanks

Every block was rejecting with PoS-N trying to solve the issue now. I know in the first post it does say this may not play well with pools. But giving it a go.

add -p c=PoS-N  and it will correct the issue with the other coin.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: thayimmy on September 16, 2017, 07:30:35 PM
Good afternoon!

PoS-N has been added to thecryptopool.com

-a scrypt -o stratum+tcp://thecryptopool.com:3433 -u <YOUR WALLET ADDRESS>

Happy mining.

Hello

thank you for starting a pool for this coin but i believe there is an issue with tha pool.

i have been solo mining thru tha wallet with about 5mh or so for about an hour and hit 2 blocks so i decided to rent some hash and point it to your pool (30ish mh) from MRR.

first i pointed a few of my own miners to tha pool to make sure i had tha settings correct and they appear to be hashing correctly but now i have added the rental hash to tha pool and appears to be hashing but for about 35-40 min no blocks have been found.

now it is showing that i have hit some Sexcoin Sxc under my PoS-n wallet address?

i am not sure how your pool would calculate a value of sexcoin to pos-n?

any way i now see you have stopped the pos-n pool for now.

i look forward to getting hashing again on PoS-n

thanks

Every block was rejecting with PoS-N trying to solve the issue now. I know in the first post it does say this may not play well with pools. But giving it a go.

add -p c=PoS-N  and it will correct the issue with the other coin.

yes i am using -p c=PoS-n,n=rent35mh,d=512

just pointed the rental back so lets see what happens



i think there is still issues with tha pool
30 min no blocks

ill check back


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: Forumgeiq on September 17, 2017, 05:54:00 AM
Just like the old days. I really missed mining, especially renting hash and racing to mine as much as we can before PoW ends. I'll start asap when we have a public pool.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: crombiecrunch on September 17, 2017, 06:40:24 AM
Just like the old days. I really missed mining, especially renting hash and racing to mine as much as we can before PoW ends. I'll start asap when we have a public pool.

still working on this over at thecryptopool.com


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: lyynx on September 17, 2017, 02:32:40 PM
Just like the old days. I really missed mining, especially renting hash and racing to mine as much as we can before PoW ends. I'll start asap when we have a public pool.

Yes, this very nostalgic, kind of gives you the crypto warm fuzzies. So far I've mined 2 blocks, got P06 and P10, anyone else?

Regarding the pool, this is going to be interesting. I would join one, but unless it can address the multi-coin mining/award, it kind of contradicts the spirit of the experiment. Time will tell.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: crombiecrunch on September 17, 2017, 02:59:20 PM
this is the error i am getting on the pool

Code:
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED
CreateNewBlock(): bad ticker for -mineonly: <none>
CreateNewBlock(): 0 block reward for <none> (-mineonly[2])


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: Shankar94 on September 17, 2017, 03:45:17 PM
The POOL sends all the hashes towards SEX coin  ;D ;D ;D ;D


SOmething is really wrong with the pool .. I think this Experiment is not for fainted hearts :P


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: crombiecrunch on September 17, 2017, 03:53:09 PM
no i stopped the posncoin until i can figure out the why its rejecting the blocks


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: shotgun1969 on September 17, 2017, 04:02:41 PM
no i stopped the posncoin until i can figure out the why its rejecting the blocks

 I am not sure but do you have the conf set to only mine psn?  If so it will reject all of the other coins and you may not have had a psn block hit yet.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: lyynx on September 17, 2017, 04:04:56 PM
The POOL sends all the hashes towards SEX coin  ;D ;D ;D ;D


SOmething is really wrong with the pool .. I think this Experiment is not for fainted hearts :P

The experiment is not an issue, it's attempting to pool mine when the OP states pool mining would most likely be an issue. Simply solo mine and you'll get coins, make a pool that addresses the random coin and reward and have a better chance of receiving smaller amounts of all the variant coins.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: crombiecrunch on September 17, 2017, 04:08:06 PM
no i stopped the posncoin until i can figure out the why its rejecting the blocks

 I am not sure but do you have the conf set to only mine psn?  If so it will reject all of the other coins and you may not have had a psn block hit yet.

Code:
rpcport=50414
rpcthreads=8
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
# onlynet=ipv4
maxconnections=12
daemon=1
gen=0
server=1
addnode=80.208.230.14:29861
addnode=24.220.149.200
addnode=162.254.26.79
port=29861

minus of course the rpcuser/pass


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: shotgun1969 on September 17, 2017, 04:11:12 PM
try upping your rpcthreads=499 and see what happens. It could be that the wallet isnt putting out work fast enough and its getting stale blocks.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: lyynx on September 17, 2017, 04:21:46 PM
Question, has the pool or anyone else received a block reward from every possible coin?


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: shotgun1969 on September 17, 2017, 04:23:19 PM
Question, has the pool or anyone else received a block reward from every possible coin?

Here is my getbalances so far but i have been mining this since the start.

11:22:32

getbalances


11:22:32

{
"PSN" : 178125.00000000,
"P03" : 84375.00000000,
"P04" : 187500.00000000,
"P06" : 131250.00000000,
"P07" : 65625.00000000,
"P08" : 131250.00000000,
"P10" : 159375.00000000,
"P11" : 56250.00000000,
"P12" : 159375.00000000,
"P13" : 84375.00000000,
"P14" : 112500.00000000,
"P15" : 65625.00000000,
"P16" : 65625.00000000,
"P17" : 37500.00000000
}


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: lyynx on September 17, 2017, 04:33:43 PM
So, thus far we know the variable coins are PSN & P03-17 (if P05 exists). Can anyone confirm a P05 block reward or a coin > P17. Atleast then you have your full array of possible coins to mine and disperse in a pool.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: crombiecrunch on September 17, 2017, 04:35:07 PM

new error

Code:
: 
12:33:56: ERROR PoS-N Invalid mode
12:33:56: *** REJECTED :( PoS-N block 20024 1 txs
2017-09-17 12:33:56: REJECTED PSN block 20024
12:33:56: submit 96.126.123.183 (uid 8) 67, 04000000, 59bea3ef, 7d5619a4, 137309.000/1024.000
12:33:58: submit 96.126.123.183 (uid 8) 67, 12000000, 59bea3ef, bada1f74, 26204.000/1024.000
12:33:59: submit 96.126.123.183 (uid 8) 67, 5a000000, 59bea3f2, 478da596, 19599.000/1024.000
12:34:00: submit 96.126.123.183 (uid 8) 67, 52000000, 59bea3f4, f46a740d, 35137.000/1024.000
12:34:01: ERROR PoS-N Invalid mode
12:34:01: *** REJECTED :( PoS-N block 20024 1 txs
2017-09-17 12:34:01: REJECTED PSN b


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: shotgun1969 on September 17, 2017, 04:37:17 PM

new error

Code:
: 
12:33:56: ERROR PoS-N Invalid mode
12:33:56: *** REJECTED :( PoS-N block 20024 1 txs
2017-09-17 12:33:56: REJECTED PSN block 20024
12:33:56: submit 96.126.123.183 (uid 8) 67, 04000000, 59bea3ef, 7d5619a4, 137309.000/1024.000
12:33:58: submit 96.126.123.183 (uid 8) 67, 12000000, 59bea3ef, bada1f74, 26204.000/1024.000
12:33:59: submit 96.126.123.183 (uid 8) 67, 5a000000, 59bea3f2, 478da596, 19599.000/1024.000
12:34:00: submit 96.126.123.183 (uid 8) 67, 52000000, 59bea3f4, f46a740d, 35137.000/1024.000
12:34:01: ERROR PoS-N Invalid mode
12:34:01: *** REJECTED :( PoS-N block 20024 1 txs
2017-09-17 12:34:01: REJECTED PSN b

My miner showed a stale block and it still sent it so  this might not be a problem yet.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: crombiecrunch on September 17, 2017, 05:05:32 PM
ok ive killed this coin at the pool. No matter what combination of settings i have tried nothinupg as worked.

I am wondering if its because of the way its trying to update the database maybe?


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: shotgun1969 on September 17, 2017, 05:13:01 PM
ok ive killed this coin at the pool. No matter what combination of settings i have tried nothinupg as worked.

I am wondering if its because of the way its trying to update the database maybe?

This whole thing could have something to do with block times and very large miners soloing the wallet on the local. That
would create a issue with trying to mine a pool the ms time would kill my little miner and all would be rejects by the time
they get to the pool and even solo i get a lot of rejects.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: TheKingInYellow on September 17, 2017, 06:23:47 PM
How do i check my hashrate on the wallet? Is that possible with posn? I'm mining using minerd. I guess I'll just have to wait to see if I get any coins in my wallet using getbalances?


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: shotgun1969 on September 17, 2017, 06:28:28 PM
How do i check my hashrate on the wallet? Is that possible with posn? I'm mining using minerd. I guess I'll just have to wait to see if I get any coins in my wallet using getbalances?

only psn will show up on your wallet overview page but you can just click on transactions page and see all the blocks you have hit no mater what coin it is.  There are 14
coins total.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: crombiecrunch on September 17, 2017, 11:33:30 PM
I had another issue with a coin that i fixed that was similar to the issue with this coin. Anyone have some spare hash they can throw at the pool for about 15 min to test?

-o stratum+tcp://thecryptopool.com:3433 -u <YOUR WALLET ADDRESS> -p c=PSN

I may have to reset the stratum a time or two but ill post here if ive killed the coin again.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: crombiecrunch on September 18, 2017, 12:08:59 AM
hmmm interesting a whole different error

Code:
******* exception encountered *******
posncoind[0x841b5c]
posncoind[0x77f295]
posncoind[0x7d88fe]
posncoind[0x79a3a0]
posncoind[0x79e15e]
posncoind[0x8d70f5]
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0(+0x76ba)[0x7fede90996ba]
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(clone+0x6d)[0x7fede852e3dd]


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: crombiecrunch on September 18, 2017, 01:27:28 AM
testing done. solo mine this :) no pool for you !


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: TheKingInYellow on September 19, 2017, 03:09:22 PM
Got my first reward, p13! What do we know about these coins anyways?


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: lyynx on September 19, 2017, 11:04:19 PM
Got my first reward, p13! What do we know about these coins anyways?

Congrats. Pretty much everything you see in the OP is all we know. Fast block times and I believe anonymous transactions are possible.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: lyynx on September 23, 2017, 07:08:58 PM
@multipos How would you gauge the experiment thus far? or are you mainly interested in what comes after POW ends?

Also, do you plan on implementing what you learn from this experiment into something else down the road?


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: lyynx on September 25, 2017, 12:51:08 AM
Anyone still hitting PSN? 48 hours for me since hitting it, but I am getting all other coin variants.

I've got to say I'm impressed by the stability considering the block times.

Also, whoever sent me the 100 PSN a couple of days ago, thank you.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: shotgun1969 on September 25, 2017, 02:17:19 AM
Anyone still hitting PSN? 48 hours for me since hitting it, but I am getting all other coin variants.

I've got to say I'm impressed by the stability considering the block times.

Also, whoever sent me the 100 PSN a couple of days ago, thank you.

No the psn has been done and maxed out 62 million coins for a while now.  Run getinfo in the console and you will see that.
I dont think there are that many other coins to finish either.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: lyynx on September 25, 2017, 02:52:56 AM
Thank you, I thought we had a couple more days for all the coins. It will be interesting to see where things go from here as most POS coins require a decent size community and without that, it might be tough to replicate real world test metrics. I'll stick around for the ride and see where this takes us.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: HarryPorter on September 25, 2017, 09:05:57 AM
It would be good if dev. could share with us a bit his future plans for this coin - I mean if he intends to keep PoS-N working and alive, active developing, maybe some services etc. ...after tests finish.
   Everything is explain well in anno., so for now we can only stay around to find out where it goes.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: spixxen on September 26, 2017, 12:35:57 PM
If I didn't know any better I would say all the other variants of coins in this experiment were code named for real coins and this was just an experiment in gullibility.

We mined a bunch of real coins for the developer in this 'experiment'.

His first post basically stated cryptically that was the deal.

Am I wrong, developer?


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: lyynx on September 27, 2017, 12:07:20 AM
If I didn't know any better I would say all the other variants of coins in this experiment were code named for real coins and this was just an experiment in gullibility.

We mined a bunch of real coins for the developer in this 'experiment'.

His first post basically stated cryptically that was the deal.

Am I wrong, developer?
I highly doubt that's the case, there's much easier ways to get scammed on BCT as you'll learn the longer you stick around.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: lyynx on September 29, 2017, 12:25:15 PM
So what's next dev, will you be updating the wallet as it appears to not sync anymore, so I assume we've entered the POS phase now?


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: Bubblewrath on September 29, 2017, 12:29:46 PM
Interesting. =0)


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: multipos on September 30, 2017, 07:40:33 AM
The chain stopped a few hours ago because I did some bad math (too many proof of work blocks for the rewards). I'm going to put out a release within 1 day that goes full PoS. Thanks for mining! My apologies for the stuck chain.

The bad math stopped mining about 20 hr too soon, which would have led straight into pure PoS.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Scrypt Mining Now
Post by: multipos on September 30, 2017, 08:15:45 AM
If I didn't know any better I would say all the other variants of coins in this experiment were code named for real coins and this was just an experiment in gullibility.

We mined a bunch of real coins for the developer in this 'experiment'.

His first post basically stated cryptically that was the deal.

Am I wrong, developer?

That would be very interesting, but if you solo mine to your own node, no one can "steal" your hashes.

Stake what coins you mined and we will see where this will go.

You can look at the hashes you contributed, compare to the mining difficulty and to your reward. You will see you earned the rewards you mined. Also, the total mining on this coins I think was about $200, and I believe I payed about $180 of that on my own hashes. I need to do the math myself. It could be more and it could be less.

There wasn't much investment in this experiment, so no one should have been out anything but some time. I hit it with a lot of hashes myself, which probably spoiled mining to some extent.

I'll take ideas on the best way to give coins away. I can burn a ton of coins and have a protracted mining period. Or I can give them away, but I need a good way to give them away and some Sr. Members and above with at least neutral rep to help distribution.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Mining Finished -- Full PoS
Post by: multipos on October 01, 2017, 07:01:00 AM
New Release: v1.1.0.1

The new release is available that will allow for pure PoS to take over at Monday, October 2, 2017 4:00:00 AM GMT. The chain will be frozen at block 94478 until that time. After that, PoS will continue. This is approximately 21 hours from the time of this post.

Download links are in the OP and at github: https://github.com/multipos/pos-n/releases/tag/v1.1.0.1


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Mining Finished -- Full PoS
Post by: pinball_wizard on October 01, 2017, 07:56:33 AM
Nice idea dev...finally another different thing...seems to understand that POW part of the experiment is over? So we can't mine anymore?


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Mining Finished -- Full PoS
Post by: multipos on October 01, 2017, 09:33:23 AM
Nice idea dev...finally another different thing...seems to understand that POW part of the experiment is over? So we can't mine anymore?

Yes, that is correct. Mining is over. The OP has been updated to reflect that fact.

I set up a block explorer at http://multipos.net:3001/

The explorer will take some customization to support the multiple currencies on the chain, but it has basic functionality.

I'm up for suggestions on distribution. I mined a lot of all the coins and can give them away, but the giveaway plan has to be a good one.

I can give bounties for help with distribution too.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Mining Finished -- Full PoS
Post by: lyynx on October 03, 2017, 02:06:59 AM
Bounties could include:
Concept submissions for multi currency coin use cases
Wallet to handle multi currencies
Lottery Site
Logo submissions
Perhaps renaming the 13 other currencies
Wallet designs
First online store to accept this coin
and so on


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Mining Finished -- Full PoS
Post by: shotgun1969 on October 16, 2017, 01:37:33 PM
in this last week all i have been getting is orphans and 1 or 2 blocks here and there.  Is there still a issue with the staking in this wallet?


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Mining Finished -- Full PoS
Post by: lyynx on October 18, 2017, 10:42:52 AM
Would like to see some github updates. At the very minimum, perhaps a wallet that can actually interface with the multicoins.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Mining Finished -- Full PoS
Post by: shotgun1969 on October 19, 2017, 01:11:08 AM
 i believe someone turned on there wallet and all is fine with mine.   I would love to see some directions on how to move all the different coins in this wallet.  I have tried and i am very unsure as to how to do just that.


Title: Re: [ANN] PoS-N: Multiple PoS Experiment -- Mining Finished -- Full PoS
Post by: lyynx on October 20, 2017, 06:52:09 PM
i believe someone turned on there wallet and all is fine with mine.   I would love to see some directions on how to move all the different coins in this wallet.  I have tried and i am very unsure as to how to do just that.

That was probably me. Hopefully we see some sort of an update or it will be time to move on.