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PM sent, it's not much i can offer but it might help :)

PMed you.

PM'd bitcoinaddict, but didn't hear anything back yet.

I find the front end confusing.

That's much better. Now at least we can see that something is happening. Cheers.

Could you change the balances from USD? I don't care what they're worth in USD as I'm from the UK. Also, listing the balances in USD just means that those values are inaccurate.

Keep the "Bitcoin value", in fact add GBP and EUR in as well, but those balances need to be in BTC.

The reason it's in USD and the reason we put a monetary figure on it is pretty specific.  One, we charge 0 fees, so if you'll notice the current value is a link to our Tradehill referral link.  That's so the pool can try to earn some income to pay for itself.  Having a dedicated server on a decent network with power protection, DDoS protection, etc, isn't cheap.  Second, we are in the US so we chose to use USD.

I think you have a valid concern, and maybe in the future we can add something in the account details for default currency to display (one of them simply being BTC, but all of that info is available in the account details page) but for the time being it's going to stay as USD.  There are more important things to add at this early point in the pool's life.  I'm sorry if that's not the answer you wanted to hear at this moment but it will be addressed some time in the future.

The "Bitcoin value" with the Tradehill link is fine, it's the 2 balances underneath it that make no sense. The price of USD compared to BTC is continually fluctuating so those balances will never be accurate. They absolutely 100% need to be in BTC. The user's local currency will not do, it needs to be BTC or it's totally inaccurate.

Sorry, but I'm not mining under those condition. I'm out.

The "Bitcoin value" with the Tradehill link is fine, it's the 2 balances underneath it that make no sense. The price of USD compared to BTC is continually fluctuating so those balances will never be accurate. They absolutely 100% need to be in BTC. The user's local currency will not do, it needs to be BTC or it's totally inaccurate.

I just noticed he quit because he couldn't see his balance in BTC, even though it was in Account Details the whole time.  That's pretty funny  :D

The BTC value is polled every 5 minutes from TradeHill and stored in our database.  The two values underneath are simply your BTC * TradeHill worth in the last 5 minutes, rounded to two decimal places.  I'm not sure how you can claim they aren't accurate?

It's NOT funny.  You need to treat this like a business, not a hobby.  Everything must be in BTC for a number of reasons, and consistency is just one of them. Who cares what the tradehill value is (in any currency)?  This value fluctuates, because it is volatile in nature. (Other nations' fiat currency fluctuates too, but not as big as BTC)

Sure, your calculations on the TH market value is accurate up to the USD cent, but if there is no change in BTC in the balance, the "accurate" amount in that field goes up or down.  One can log in today, see their USD equivalent balance as "$14.35" and have no change in bitcoins, yet log in tomorrow and see "$14.67" or "$13.97" etc.  This is not an accurate representation of what the user has in their balance in bitcoins.

You lost a member/user. That is not funny. Laughing at them in a public forum, where you are showing your transparency and hoping to get more users, is bad customer service, and shows poor judgement.

I'm not sure if you have registered on our site and seen what is being discussed, or just going on assumption based on what's been posted here, but I just wanted to clear that up.

Logging into your front end should probably lead users straight to the account details page, rather than stats page.

I'm not trying to start anything and great job phorensic on the stats table I know you were up all night doing that.  One thought though and you can take it or leave it.   Perhaps there should be another entry to the stats table for current block
obviously there will be no block number but it could have a null entry to display current total shares and also miner shares submitted.  Just something static cause if you miners aren't connected currently you wont be able to see how many shares they each produced this round.  Just my .02

Thanks for the props.  I have worked on the pool from 8pm to sunrise the next day more times than I can count, including last night.

I was thinking about implementing your idea last night.  However, all the info you are talking about is displayed already.  Current Block is actually "Shares this Round" on the front page.  Also, the total number of shares your workers have submitted for the Current "Block"/Round is in the Manage Workers page, albeit not totalled up.  And the mysql query should get your total shares and stales whether your miners are connected or not.  I'll have to add a total.  Which then points out an obvious thing - the stats are spread out everywhere!  Might need to consolidate.  Thanks for the feedback.

Edit:  Shoot, you are right it doesn't show your worker stats if they are idle, hold on...

Excellent nice work man.  Yea as for sms I would deffinetly charge a fee or require a certain donation ammount much like btc guild.  The costs of the sms might not be much but they deffinetly add up over time.   Email notification might be something easier to implement as its just a sendmail command which could also charge a fee or donation for, and as many people have smart phones now a days it should suffice as well.   But anyhow no need to worry about that.  Great job on the stats and everything man.  I think it deffinetly bring more transparency to the pool which is what miners like/want.  At least I do.

There is a cool trick for SMS notifications where you just send an e-mail to the wireless provider's special SMS "gateway" or whatever you want to call it.  You would just have to fill out your number and your wireless provider so I could get the To: address correct.  No real cost to us, but a feature we think people would pay a small donation for.  That keeps us at a 0% base fee.

Yeah, let's hook up an android phone to the server and use some clever programming with the SDK to send out SMS notifications! lol

Pool Update
Blkmond was not doing what it was supposed to do.  I don't know if you monkeys noticed or not, but there probably weren't long polling messages in your logs.  Not a surprise that it wasn't working considering comments from other pool operators.  I have replaced blkmond with a custom python script written by another member here on the boards.  It's working great for me, however it looks like you must restart your miners to get a fresh connection ready for LP pushes.  If you are the type of person who never reboots or has a dedicated rig, do us a favor and restart your miners real quick.  Thanks monkeys!

Alright, I added Worker Totals.  For some reason the total MH/s for all workers was looking artificially low, and I suck at math, so I left it out for now.  Also fixed it so that it will still display your shares and stales even if your worker is idle.  The only way you know it's idle is when it says "0 MHashes/s".  I will style that page later on to make it more obvious a worker is idle.  Also, SMS notification of idle workers is on the to-do list, maybe with a small donation % required for the feature, something bitcoinaddict and I have been talking about.

I've noticed this about the worker mh/s rate.  I think it has to to with just random luck, because you may submit a share once every so many seconds with a worker, and lets say in one five minute period you submit 50 shares, but in the next 5 minute period you submit 45 shares, and then after that the next 5 minute period you submit 55 shares.  So in that case you could show anywhere from 95-105% of what you are actually submitting.  I don't know if the variance for a single miner can be that high, I would think it is rather constant, but with network communications involved also, that may be the reason the value fluctuates.  I don't know enough about the technical inner-workings of bitcoin to figure all of that out...

The worker MH/s are OK and on par with how other pools calculate, it was when I tried to add all the worker speeds together I ran out of programming talent, hehe.  I think if I calculated the average over 30 minutes the speed would be lower actually.

Funny, one of my friends in the pool was moving to a new house also.  And during that period my computer at home crashed while I was at work and I don't have remote power cycle capabilities on it, dangit.  Pool speed starting to look better.  Still trying to get my friend's two 6870's stable.

Good point, I didn't even think about it that way.

Well we were VERY lucky on our first two blocks, so this kind of makes up for it. We've just barely hit the average.

no bonus for 2nd block that was found?

This block is killing me, larry

STILL A 3 BTC BONUS FOR THE NEXT BLOCK!!!

ah ok no just wondering

For you it will be a 2BTC bonus, anyone else will be 3BTC   :P

This pool seems to be nice, and I like the monkey logo :)

Uhhhhh, whoah!  Thank you to whoever just injected 14GH/s to our pool!

lol @ 140Gh in topic, isnt that a prime example of false advertising? :P

All stats re-enabled.  Did a super fancy online index generation on the main shares table.  We're cruisin' again!  The webpage should now be approximately eleventy-thousand times faster.

Well this sucks.

phorensic and Bitcoin addict are a bunch of dicks.  We all invested time and electricity into your pool as well.  To deny us our part of the block is a bunch of bullshit.  You guys are crooks and I intend to let the rest of the bitcoin community know that your a bunch of crooks.  I put in almost 600,000 shares and what thats nothing?  Sure the block took 4 million shares but 600,000 shares is roughly 1/8 of that.  You wonder why people don't join your pool and this is why because you offer no transparency, and when we do put in shares you don't make good on shit.  We know you login and check posts and for the last week you still have done nothing to fix the payouts or jack shit for that matter. 

Website is up.  Pushpoold is still shut down.  Stay tuned for a formal announcement.

Staying tuned...  ???  :'(

Gomad,

We had a major accounting error happen on the back end of our website.  The result was account balances being updated as negative, with a scientific decimal notation within, or a wild number due to lines of code that were not written by me.  The lines of code came from the Mining Farm project created by Xenland.  Your mining account has been largely inactive on our site.  On the third round you submitted a total of 8 shares out of 4,254,281.  This would have netted you 0.00009402 BTC for the 4,254,281 share round.  Instead, our software incorrectly rewarded you with 8.33638151 BTC.  Immediately after the account balances were updated on our server, you, or your automation program, cashed out with your PIN.  We then disabled the website to prevent firther cashouts while we manually processed account balances.  We are left in a position now where we do not have enough BTC to pay out to the rest of our users.  Would you be kind enough to return the difference in BTC so that we can pay out our other users?

mysql> SELECT * FROM shares_dead WHERE username LIKE "GoMaD%";
+---------+--------------+-------------+------------+--------------------+----------+------------+-----------------+--------+
| id      | shareCounted | blockNumber | time       | rem_host           | username | our_result | upstream_result | reason |
+---------+--------------+-------------+------------+--------------------+----------+------------+-----------------+--------+
| 5952576 |            1 |      142119 | 1312813663 | ::ffff:91.64.68.98 | GoMaD.w1 | Y          | NULL            | NULL   |
| 5952577 |            1 |      142119 | 1312813663 | ::ffff:91.64.68.98 | GoMaD.w1 | Y          | NULL            | NULL   |
| 5952618 |            1 |      142119 | 1312813730 | ::ffff:91.64.68.98 | GoMaD.w1 | Y          | NULL            | NULL   |
| 5952619 |            1 |      142119 | 1312813730 | ::ffff:91.64.68.98 | GoMaD.w1 | Y          | NULL            | NULL   |
| 5952620 |            1 |      142119 | 1312813730 | ::ffff:91.64.68.98 | GoMaD.w1 | Y          | NULL            | NULL   |
| 5954968 |            1 |      142119 | 1312817921 | ::ffff:91.64.68.98 | GoMaD.w1 | Y          | NULL            | NULL   |
| 5954976 |            1 |      142119 | 1312817932 | ::ffff:91.64.68.98 | GoMaD.w1 | Y          | NULL            | NULL   |
| 5954977 |            1 |      142119 | 1312817932 | ::ffff:91.64.68.98 | GoMaD.w1 | Y          | NULL            | NULL   |
+---------+--------------+-------------+------------+--------------------+----------+------------+-----------------+--------+
8 rows in set (0.00 sec)

./bitcoind listtransactions

 {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "1BFa9Nf2FBcJzU3qboqDVtQDfPjgCxEKia",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -8.33638151,
        "fee" : -0.00050000,
        "confirmations" : 272,
        "txid" : "17256b3a17ad5d2aaafd53fd5020eb4088a10d69afa13c12524c56641b6c7682",
        "time" : 1314569304
    },

mysql> select id, username, loggedIp, email from websiteUsers where username like "GoMaD%";
+-----+----------+-----------------+------------------------+
| id  | username | loggedIp        | email                  |
+-----+----------+-----------------+------------------------+
| 144 | GoMaD    | 188.103.120.110 | bitcoinmonkey@gomad.de |
+-----+----------+-----------------+------------------------+
1 row in set (0.00 sec)

 
Thank you,

-Matt Mead (phorensic)
BitcoinMonkey.com

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