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Title: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: Orteip on September 17, 2017, 11:22:41 AM
I would like to see what is your idea of an ideal cryptofolio, to see what people use to prefer and which direction trends the market.

Imagining to have 10k USD/EUR, how would you split your portfolio and why?

Here is mine. Yesterday evening I made a fake portfolio setup with the following values. My purpose is to be a long term holder, my first goal is a 2.5x before end of 2017, and a 5-8x before June 2018. A 10x before end 2018 is also expected.

The main goal is 300-400k in 2020.

And here it is how I would divide it:
http://oi64.tinypic.com/1zbv4nd.jpg

So why I shared like this?

30.2% in Bitcoin is mandatory for who has a good capital to invest in crypto. The only game changer atm, the most known, the most solid one, it will be gold in the future.
15.6% in Waves, medium risk, but if it succeed (and it has some good characteristics to do it), it may be big.

(And we are already almost at 50% just with these two coins).

7.5% in DASH. If BTC will be gold, Dash will be USD of cryptos.

9% in Ripple. Do not really like the centralized nature of this coin, but banks have trilions and even if the MCP is 100B units, a 5x in 3 years is more then expectable. Will cover some of the crypto in which I invested who will not rise. Because some of the following are just good projects, but just in paper and who knows how many of these people will scam exit in the end.

3% Litecoin. Good to always have some silver. May be a 6-7x in 3 years.

4.6% in LISK and 4.5% in its fork ARK. Almost a 10% for a good project. Gambling. Easily a 50x if it succeed.

3.5% in NEO, I would also consider more, but this historical moment is not the best one to buy this because we do not know yet how China will regulate the market. Expectable a +200% or a -95% in 3 years. BIG GAMBLING but good to have some IMO.

7.3% in Stratis. In the paper it's a really good project, if it will make all his steps it is going to rise for sure.

4% in Monero. It will make some good profit. 15x is expectable. Going to be adopted by all the anonimous around the world :D

6.8% in QTUM. Main net ready, pretty cool project. Easily a good giver.

5.1% in Golem. I love this project, if this worldwide CPU rent will be used and it will be used in the right way, it is going to help mankind. Maths, medicine, everything. If it will be used as it would I expect even a 100x.

So that's the fake 10k EUR portfolio I created yesterday evening (alread in loss  :D)

https://image.ibb.co/bu5NR5/cpfo.png


Curious to know, how would you do it?


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: cau on September 17, 2017, 01:32:41 PM
you have all good big players in your portfolio.... if I were you, I will have 15-20% of dark horses like XBY, Sys, NXS, QRL, XSpec, over the next few years we might see 100X returns in these counters.

I am building my portfolio like,

BTC - 40%
Med Risk - 40% (Waves, Monero, Strat etc not more than 5)
High Risk - 20% (choose not more than 3-5)


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: Javi_Anibarro on September 17, 2017, 01:39:49 PM
an ideal crypto portfolio is not based on how much you invest to Bitcoin and how much is it on altcoins.
but instead how can you manage it when the price is down and when the price is sideway,
more people always use all of their money to buy a Bitcoin and an Altcoin,
but they never spared their Fiat to buy something in the future.
the best portfolio is using 40% capital to buy an assets,40% for financial support and 20% for back expanses.
many people lose their money because they sell their coin cheaper from their buy order because they need money.
that is why i said that


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: radnom on September 17, 2017, 01:50:28 PM
I personally would like to pick my long term hold from projects that aim to be monetary units. In that regard, I generally liked your portfolio.

I would suggest adding underdogs like Decred to it as well.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: zabisux on September 17, 2017, 02:17:07 PM
One of the greatest portfolios I have ever seen around bitcointalk. Good job. I can also say that you should hold some Ethereum and Ethereum classic as well I believe they will keep being profitable. On the other hand I love to risk more money over some bad coins. You can add some new ICOs or bad new coins for under %1. If that type of altcoins become profitable they make you rich.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: Value Coin on September 17, 2017, 03:18:40 PM
One of the greatest portfolios I have ever seen around bitcointalk. Good job. I can also say that you should hold some Ethereum and Ethereum classic as well I believe they will keep being profitable. On the other hand I love to risk more money over some bad coins. You can add some new ICOs or bad new coins for under %1. If that type of altcoins become profitable they make you rich.

I was following this, as an investor myself which additionally is creating an investing fund... you should check my ICO going on right now. www.valuecoinfund.com
Maybe you would find it a good addition to the portfolio since it gives you a new coin and also focuses on creating a profit on the stock market.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: Dvd1989 on September 17, 2017, 04:27:24 PM
Not bad, but you can think about putting some % in project with a small market cap. More risk but bigger reward. Suggestions: CVC or MSP.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: sihat on June 17, 2018, 07:12:48 AM
an ideal portfolio should include 10 -30% cash or usdt as many may be trading from time to time in various exchange

I would like to see what is your idea of an ideal cryptofolio, to see what people use to prefer and which direction trends the market.

Imagining to have 10k USD/EUR, how would you split your portfolio and why?

Here is mine. Yesterday evening I made a fake portfolio setup with the following values. My purpose is to be a long term holder, my first goal is a 2.5x before end of 2017, and a 5-8x before June 2018. A 10x before end 2018 is also expected.

The main goal is 300-400k in 2020.

And here it is how I would divide it:
http://oi64.tinypic.com/1zbv4nd.jpg

So why I shared like this?

30.2% in Bitcoin is mandatory for who has a good capital to invest in crypto. The only game changer atm, the most known, the most solid one, it will be gold in the future.
15.6% in Waves, medium risk, but if it succeed (and it has some good characteristics to do it), it may be big.

(And we are already almost at 50% just with these two coins).

7.5% in DASH. If BTC will be gold, Dash will be USD of cryptos.

9% in Ripple. Do not really like the centralized nature of this coin, but banks have trilions and even if the MCP is 100B units, a 5x in 3 years is more then expectable. Will cover some of the crypto in which I invested who will not rise. Because some of the following are just good projects, but just in paper and who knows how many of these people will scam exit in the end.

3% Litecoin. Good to always have some silver. May be a 6-7x in 3 years.

4.6% in LISK and 4.5% in its fork ARK. Almost a 10% for a good project. Gambling. Easily a 50x if it succeed.

3.5% in NEO, I would also consider more, but this historical moment is not the best one to buy this because we do not know yet how China will regulate the market. Expectable a +200% or a -95% in 3 years. BIG GAMBLING but good to have some IMO.

7.3% in Stratis. In the paper it's a really good project, if it will make all his steps it is going to rise for sure.

4% in Monero. It will make some good profit. 15x is expectable. Going to be adopted by all the anonimous around the world :D

6.8% in QTUM. Main net ready, pretty cool project. Easily a good giver.

5.1% in Golem. I love this project, if this worldwide CPU rent will be used and it will be used in the right way, it is going to help mankind. Maths, medicine, everything. If it will be used as it would I expect even a 100x.

So that's the fake 10k EUR portfolio I created yesterday evening (alread in loss  :D)

https://image.ibb.co/bu5NR5/cpfo.png


Curious to know, how would you do it?



Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: dragone on June 17, 2018, 02:53:53 PM
Why you didn't  put ETH in your portfolio? Does the 2nd cryptocurrency is not trustworthy at the moment? I think ETH is the most efficient platform for now. NEO and NEM is far behind. Don't forget about number of ICO based on ETH platform.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: kingzpro on June 17, 2018, 03:02:43 PM
The way you have posted it is simple and good, personally i think ideal crypto portfolio can be created by diversifying in top quality projects and funds should be put in according to the project for example you should good bigger weightage to big guns like btc, eth and ltc etc and invest more funds and then lower your investments in others according to quality ranking in mind, a diverse portfolio of 10-20 coins can be great for any investor.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: jeffthebaker on June 17, 2018, 10:34:37 PM
I don't think there is any reason to invest in 10 or however many of large cap coins. You're essentially betting that the industry will 40x by your desired date to achieve your goal. You might as well go BTC/XRP/ETH/XMR and call it a day. It'll be the same in the end.

A better strategy would be to keep at least some percent of your portfolio- that you are comfortable with, in small cap coins for high returns. 5-25% in IDEX gems and other undervalued projects that can pop off any day. I'd also put anywhere from 30-60% in mid caps, projects in the 100mil-999mil range that stand out from the others. Not super huge downside but also potential to climb the ranks as days go by.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: tycsols on June 17, 2018, 11:09:52 PM
If i were you i would have picked the following coins for my portfolio;
btc
eth
ltc
dash
xmr
xrp
zcash
ada
icx
omg
eos
aion
I do like more coins but i think this list is enough for a conservative and diversed portfolio, you may add or substract some from this list according to your liking.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: edgycorner on June 17, 2018, 11:58:55 PM
Looks amazing and very well thought-out.But after the recent creash, i don't think any portfolio will help us in minimizing the loss lol
When it gets red, it is bad.For almost every alt,but you do have a huge chance of gaining profit.It's like placing bets on multiple horses.

You are in loss today, might get a positive by tomorrow.HODL ON! You bought them at a nice time :v


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: eminemcookie on June 18, 2018, 04:12:28 AM
My Idea of an ideal portfolio is that there is not one. It depends on the individual and their finances, goals and risk appetite. Even with that it's constantly changing in every second and there's no way to have a portfolio that is dynamic enough to keep up with the market movements.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: tweetbit on June 18, 2018, 04:28:15 AM
When I heard of a word ideal, I do think it is subjective on one person comfort zone. We can’t have same trusted coin in each and every crypto users, but we have one goal to profit from it. Honesty, I’m a person of values and manners that sometimes I’m not gonna make some false hope for others to invest on what is an obvious scam. So If I invest money other than what I received in bounties are well studied and researched by me personally.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: BTCLovingDude on June 18, 2018, 06:06:43 AM
any investor will always want to maximize their profit so they invest in things that can give them the most amount of profit while keeping the risks as low as possible. investing in bitcoin does that for you.

the problem with OP's portfolio is that he made profit but also he minimized his profit by investing in multiple altcoins and holding them. go ahead and calculate his profit if you don't believe me. if he only invested in bitcoin now he could have turned that $10K into $19000 assuming he didn't sell on top and held until now and if he sold then he could have had $59000 by the end of 2017!

how much did he make with his altcoins? a lot less mostly because some of these coins are already dumped into oblivion.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: Gozie51 on June 18, 2018, 07:16:23 AM
Not bad, but you can think about putting some % in project with a small market cap. More risk but bigger reward. Suggestions: CVC or MSP.

I believe in this strategy and ideology. You just dump the money and come back in few years to to cash out some good profit. I think mothership is a good investment too.

Don't forget about number of ICO based on ETH platform.

Yes, etheruem has very huge platform, almost all icos are using it as payment transactions.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: Dvd1989 on June 18, 2018, 08:09:25 AM
Not bad, but you can think about putting some % in project with a small market cap. More risk but bigger reward. Suggestions: CVC or MSP.

I believe in this strategy and ideology. You just dump the money and come back in few years to to cash out some good profit. I think mothership is a good investment too.

Don't forget about number of ICO based on ETH platform.

Yes, etheruem has very huge platform, almost all icos are using it as payment transactions.

I actually dumped MSP a long time ago. They keep delaying everything. I've kind off lost my faith in the project and the team. It's a great buy though at the moment; cheap as hell.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: supercanada1 on June 19, 2018, 08:18:24 PM
Why you didn't  put ETH in your portfolio? Does the 2nd cryptocurrency is not trustworthy at the moment? I think ETH is the most efficient platform for now. NEO and NEM is far behind. Don't forget about number of ICO based on ETH platform.
Yes that is what I thought about in the start. You have left and skipped one beautiful and potential crypto out of your list and that is ETH. How about investing some part of the money in ETH and holding it with the remaining crypto in your portfolio for the boom? Of course it will pay off. I like your love for the diversity of portfolio because the diverse portfolio shares the risk and keeps you away from loss.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: terrific on June 19, 2018, 08:37:18 PM
an ideal portfolio should include 10 -30% cash or usdt as many may be trading from time to time in various exchange
We do have our own preferred ideal crypto portfolio and what I can see from OP though this post was from 2017 still he has a good portfolio after all.
But you know what what's missing with OP's portfolio? it is not cash / usdt but it's ethereum. Many are into ethereum but him doesn't have it instead he has chosen waves as his 2nd to the list.
There's few more talks about it here in forum but I also think that's a good portfolio.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: VclDm on June 19, 2018, 10:26:31 PM
If i were you i would have picked the following coins for my portfolio;
btc
eth
ltc
dash
xmr
xrp
zcash
ada
icx
omg
eos
aion
I do like more coins but i think this list is enough for a conservative and diversed portfolio, you may add or substract some from this list according to your liking.
I think that you should only select 3-4 coins from the list here because you can not divide capital in too many coins because it does not work and you also have difficulty tracking the evolution of coins. you are investing. I think ETH, LTC and EOS are notable altcoin.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: nikoskakan on June 19, 2018, 10:58:44 PM
50% Hellenic Coin, 25 % Venethor and 25% btc


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: mikyadel on June 20, 2018, 04:02:56 AM
i like how you planning to diversify your portfolio .However,i don't understand your percentages (8.1%,32.5%...etc) .i'd like to know how things are going on with your coins and what's your profits till now .


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: dragone on June 20, 2018, 12:54:04 PM
I don't think there is any reason to invest in 10 or however many of large cap coins. You're essentially betting that the industry will 40x by your desired date to achieve your goal. You might as well go BTC/XRP/ETH/XMR and call it a day. It'll be the same in the end.

A better strategy would be to keep at least some percent of your portfolio- that you are comfortable with, in small cap coins for high returns. 5-25% in IDEX gems and other undervalued projects that can pop off any day. I'd also put anywhere from 30-60% in mid caps, projects in the 100mil-999mil range that stand out from the others. Not super huge downside but also potential to climb the ranks as days go by.
This is good strategy I think! I think I'll use it in the future. I invested in some coins from 500-700th places and it was awful. I lost more than 50% and I realised that if coin live on market more than year and still from 500 -1000 th places there are no chances that it can get good X's.
Projects from 100 millions and more is my best investment that gave profit to me. If I wasn't so greedy and sold it on pump in the beginning of the year I can make x10 or more.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: btcash on June 20, 2018, 12:55:22 PM
100% is not ideal, 50% cash and 50% crypto are more risk-free. It is ideal to divide the existing 50% cryptos into 5 parts of 10%.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: Dvd1989 on June 21, 2018, 09:08:31 AM
50% Hellenic Coin, 25 % Venethor and 25% btc

Haha nice troll dude!

Helleniccoin (HNC)
Market Cap
$172.064 USD

If you want to throw away your money, fine ;)


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: jackflag on June 21, 2018, 02:12:41 PM
you choose good coins, i liked them. In my opinion good variant will be 20% btc, 30% usdt, 20% ETH, 10%Xem, 10%ltc, 10% zec.  Mostly i think that always we need to hold some money for buy cheap coins. 


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: m_f_o_c on July 06, 2018, 10:22:58 PM
It seems to me that such a crypto-currency portfolio will be more successful.
BTC - 25%
ETH - 25%
Cardano - 10%
IOTA - 15%
NEO  - 10%
QuarkChain -7,5%
PChain -7,5%


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: divowok on July 20, 2018, 02:09:30 PM
I think it would be wise to maybe consider an ICO or two, the risk is high but quite often the reward is too if they're successful.
I have a few great options that you can look into on your own time!
OPP Open Wifi is a community driven service with the sole purpose of creating a global, free to access open WiFi hotspot network and rewarding each contributor for being a part of their cause.

Orthogonal is an investment company that focuses their attention and resources on companies that almost promise financial return.

GrapheneTech is the first cryptocurrency based on a revolutionary material; Graphene.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: Dvd1989 on October 17, 2018, 04:31:09 PM
Never forget, 90% of these “projects” are total scam shitcoins. The last ico bubble produced a ton of garbage. Doesn’t mean u can’t trade them for profit but just never forget that. Eventually they will all be exposed.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: blue_nexus15 on October 17, 2018, 04:53:26 PM
My plans and suggestions are: BTC 40%, XRP 20%, IOTA 10%, ICX and NEO 30%. I will support some coins in Asia. Because I live with them. :). And I believe that with this catalog, I can switch dynamically when there is a "mutant" trend.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: ImpaT on October 17, 2018, 05:36:23 PM
As we could see, the ideal crypto portfolio for last 8 month was Bitcoin - 100%. majority of coins lost approx. 80-90% of its value...(


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: smoolae on October 17, 2018, 06:44:15 PM
At first, it may seem that having a widely divided crypto portfolio is a good thing but there is a catch. When owning more than 6-7 cryptos, it's rather hard to keep an eye on everything that is happening.

It's really hard to make the right decisions when you have a lot of coins at the same time moving up and down.

Cannot really give my advice on any coins to own but there are top 100 cryptos that really can multiply by a whole lot.


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: the1arty on October 17, 2018, 07:37:11 PM
I would like to see what is your idea of an ideal cryptofolio, to see what people use to prefer and which direction trends the market.

Imagining to have 10k USD/EUR, how would you split your portfolio and why?

Here is mine. Yesterday evening I made a fake portfolio setup with the following values. My purpose is to be a long term holder, my first goal is a 2.5x before end of 2017, and a 5-8x before June 2018. A 10x before end 2018 is also expected.

The main goal is 300-400k in 2020.

And here it is how I would divide it:
http://oi64.tinypic.com/1zbv4nd.jpg

So why I shared like this?

30.2% in Bitcoin is mandatory for who has a good capital to invest in crypto. The only game changer atm, the most known, the most solid one, it will be gold in the future.
15.6% in Waves, medium risk, but if it succeed (and it has some good characteristics to do it), it may be big.

(And we are already almost at 50% just with these two coins).

7.5% in DASH. If BTC will be gold, Dash will be USD of cryptos.

9% in Ripple. Do not really like the centralized nature of this coin, but banks have trilions and even if the MCP is 100B units, a 5x in 3 years is more then expectable. Will cover some of the crypto in which I invested who will not rise. Because some of the following are just good projects, but just in paper and who knows how many of these people will scam exit in the end.

3% Litecoin. Good to always have some silver. May be a 6-7x in 3 years.

4.6% in LISK and 4.5% in its fork ARK. Almost a 10% for a good project. Gambling. Easily a 50x if it succeed.

3.5% in NEO, I would also consider more, but this historical moment is not the best one to buy this because we do not know yet how China will regulate the market. Expectable a +200% or a -95% in 3 years. BIG GAMBLING but good to have some IMO.

7.3% in Stratis. In the paper it's a really good project, if it will make all his steps it is going to rise for sure.

4% in Monero. It will make some good profit. 15x is expectable. Going to be adopted by all the anonimous around the world :D

6.8% in QTUM. Main net ready, pretty cool project. Easily a good giver.

5.1% in Golem. I love this project, if this worldwide CPU rent will be used and it will be used in the right way, it is going to help mankind. Maths, medicine, everything. If it will be used as it would I expect even a 100x.

So that's the fake 10k EUR portfolio I created yesterday evening (alread in loss  :D)

https://image.ibb.co/bu5NR5/cpfo.png


Curious to know, how would you do it?


Would be absolutely awesome if you could make it online on some service to see how it is doing right now and what will be in 2020. Any link to check your demo portfolio live?


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: lx001 on October 17, 2018, 11:50:34 PM
Would be absolutely awesome if you could make it online on some service to see how it is doing right now and what will be in 2020. Any link to check your demo portfolio live?
He made this post in 2017 before the December bull run and someone bumped this dead topic today. Shame this was just a theoretic portfolio because he could earn big several months later. Even at todays prices after all the falls he would be somewhere near his entry point (Ripple and BTC in great profit).


Title: Re: An ideal crypto portfolio
Post by: Yurkov on October 18, 2018, 12:28:08 AM
you have all good big players in your portfolio.... if I were you, I will have 15-20% of dark horses like XBY, Sys, NXS, QRL, XSpec, over the next few years we might see 100X returns in these counters.

I am building my portfolio like,

BTC - 40%
Med Risk - 40% (Waves, Monero, Strat etc not more than 5)
High Risk - 20% (choose not more than 3-5)

And in my opinion it is one of the most optimal options.
If I had anything changed, I would add more space for the ETH itself, because in my opinion in 2019 it will have more potential for growth than BTC.