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September 17, 2017, 11:22:41 AM
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I would like to see what is your idea of an ideal cryptofolio, to see what people use to prefer and which direction trends the market.

Imagining to have 10k USD/EUR, how would you split your portfolio and why?

Here is mine. Yesterday evening I made a fake portfolio setup with the following values. My purpose is to be a long term holder, my first goal is a 2.5x before end of 2017, and a 5-8x before June 2018. A 10x before end 2018 is also expected.

The main goal is 300-400k in 2020.

And here it is how I would divide it:
http://oi64.tinypic.com/1zbv4nd.jpg

So why I shared like this?

30.2% in Bitcoin is mandatory for who has a good capital to invest in crypto. The only game changer atm, the most known, the most solid one, it will be gold in the future.
15.6% in Waves, medium risk, but if it succeed (and it has some good characteristics to do it), it may be big.

(And we are already almost at 50% just with these two coins).

7.5% in DASH. If BTC will be gold, Dash will be USD of cryptos.

9% in Ripple. Do not really like the centralized nature of this coin, but banks have trilions and even if the MCP is 100B units, a 5x in 3 years is more then expectable. Will cover some of the crypto in which I invested who will not rise. Because some of the following are just good projects, but just in paper and who knows how many of these people will scam exit in the end.

3% Litecoin. Good to always have some silver. May be a 6-7x in 3 years.

4.6% in LISK and 4.5% in its fork ARK. Almost a 10% for a good project. Gambling. Easily a 50x if it succeed.

3.5% in NEO, I would also consider more, but this historical moment is not the best one to buy this because we do not know yet how China will regulate the market. Expectable a +200% or a -95% in 3 years. BIG GAMBLING but good to have some IMO.

7.3% in Stratis. In the paper it's a really good project, if it will make all his steps it is going to rise for sure.

4% in Monero. It will make some good profit. 15x is expectable. Going to be adopted by all the anonimous around the world Cheesy

6.8% in QTUM. Main net ready, pretty cool project. Easily a good giver.

5.1% in Golem. I love this project, if this worldwide CPU rent will be used and it will be used in the right way, it is going to help mankind. Maths, medicine, everything. If it will be used as it would I expect even a 100x.

So that's the fake 10k EUR portfolio I created yesterday evening (alread in loss  Cheesy)

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September 17, 2017, 01:32:41 PM
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you have all good big players in your portfolio.... if I were you, I will have 15-20% of dark horses like XBY, Sys, NXS, QRL, XSpec, over the next few years we might see 100X returns in these counters.

I am building my portfolio like,

BTC - 40%
Med Risk - 40% (Waves, Monero, Strat etc not more than 5)
High Risk - 20% (choose not more than 3-5)
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September 17, 2017, 01:39:49 PM
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an ideal crypto portfolio is not based on how much you invest to Bitcoin and how much is it on altcoins.
but instead how can you manage it when the price is down and when the price is sideway,
more people always use all of their money to buy a Bitcoin and an Altcoin,
but they never spared their Fiat to buy something in the future.
the best portfolio is using 40% capital to buy an assets,40% for financial support and 20% for back expanses.
many people lose their money because they sell their coin cheaper from their buy order because they need money.
that is why i said that
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September 17, 2017, 01:50:28 PM
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I personally would like to pick my long term hold from projects that aim to be monetary units. In that regard, I generally liked your portfolio.

I would suggest adding underdogs like Decred to it as well.

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September 17, 2017, 02:17:07 PM
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One of the greatest portfolios I have ever seen around bitcointalk. Good job. I can also say that you should hold some Ethereum and Ethereum classic as well I believe they will keep being profitable. On the other hand I love to risk more money over some bad coins. You can add some new ICOs or bad new coins for under %1. If that type of altcoins become profitable they make you rich.



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September 17, 2017, 03:18:40 PM
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One of the greatest portfolios I have ever seen around bitcointalk. Good job. I can also say that you should hold some Ethereum and Ethereum classic as well I believe they will keep being profitable. On the other hand I love to risk more money over some bad coins. You can add some new ICOs or bad new coins for under %1. If that type of altcoins become profitable they make you rich.

I was following this, as an investor myself which additionally is creating an investing fund... you should check my ICO going on right now. www.valuecoinfund.com
Maybe you would find it a good addition to the portfolio since it gives you a new coin and also focuses on creating a profit on the stock market.
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September 17, 2017, 04:27:24 PM
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Not bad, but you can think about putting some % in project with a small market cap. More risk but bigger reward. Suggestions: CVC or MSP.
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June 17, 2018, 07:12:48 AM
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an ideal portfolio should include 10 -30% cash or usdt as many may be trading from time to time in various exchange

I would like to see what is your idea of an ideal cryptofolio, to see what people use to prefer and which direction trends the market.

Imagining to have 10k USD/EUR, how would you split your portfolio and why?

Here is mine. Yesterday evening I made a fake portfolio setup with the following values. My purpose is to be a long term holder, my first goal is a 2.5x before end of 2017, and a 5-8x before June 2018. A 10x before end 2018 is also expected.

The main goal is 300-400k in 2020.

And here it is how I would divide it:


So why I shared like this?

30.2% in Bitcoin is mandatory for who has a good capital to invest in crypto. The only game changer atm, the most known, the most solid one, it will be gold in the future.
15.6% in Waves, medium risk, but if it succeed (and it has some good characteristics to do it), it may be big.

(And we are already almost at 50% just with these two coins).

7.5% in DASH. If BTC will be gold, Dash will be USD of cryptos.

9% in Ripple. Do not really like the centralized nature of this coin, but banks have trilions and even if the MCP is 100B units, a 5x in 3 years is more then expectable. Will cover some of the crypto in which I invested who will not rise. Because some of the following are just good projects, but just in paper and who knows how many of these people will scam exit in the end.

3% Litecoin. Good to always have some silver. May be a 6-7x in 3 years.

4.6% in LISK and 4.5% in its fork ARK. Almost a 10% for a good project. Gambling. Easily a 50x if it succeed.

3.5% in NEO, I would also consider more, but this historical moment is not the best one to buy this because we do not know yet how China will regulate the market. Expectable a +200% or a -95% in 3 years. BIG GAMBLING but good to have some IMO.

7.3% in Stratis. In the paper it's a really good project, if it will make all his steps it is going to rise for sure.

4% in Monero. It will make some good profit. 15x is expectable. Going to be adopted by all the anonimous around the world Cheesy

6.8% in QTUM. Main net ready, pretty cool project. Easily a good giver.

5.1% in Golem. I love this project, if this worldwide CPU rent will be used and it will be used in the right way, it is going to help mankind. Maths, medicine, everything. If it will be used as it would I expect even a 100x.

So that's the fake 10k EUR portfolio I created yesterday evening (alread in loss  Cheesy)




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June 17, 2018, 02:53:53 PM
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Why you didn't  put ETH in your portfolio? Does the 2nd cryptocurrency is not trustworthy at the moment? I think ETH is the most efficient platform for now. NEO and NEM is far behind. Don't forget about number of ICO based on ETH platform.
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June 17, 2018, 03:02:43 PM
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The way you have posted it is simple and good, personally i think ideal crypto portfolio can be created by diversifying in top quality projects and funds should be put in according to the project for example you should good bigger weightage to big guns like btc, eth and ltc etc and invest more funds and then lower your investments in others according to quality ranking in mind, a diverse portfolio of 10-20 coins can be great for any investor.

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I don't think there is any reason to invest in 10 or however many of large cap coins. You're essentially betting that the industry will 40x by your desired date to achieve your goal. You might as well go BTC/XRP/ETH/XMR and call it a day. It'll be the same in the end.

A better strategy would be to keep at least some percent of your portfolio- that you are comfortable with, in small cap coins for high returns. 5-25% in IDEX gems and other undervalued projects that can pop off any day. I'd also put anywhere from 30-60% in mid caps, projects in the 100mil-999mil range that stand out from the others. Not super huge downside but also potential to climb the ranks as days go by.
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June 17, 2018, 11:09:52 PM
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If i were you i would have picked the following coins for my portfolio;
btc
eth
ltc
dash
xmr
xrp
zcash
ada
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eos
aion
I do like more coins but i think this list is enough for a conservative and diversed portfolio, you may add or substract some from this list according to your liking.

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June 17, 2018, 11:58:55 PM
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Looks amazing and very well thought-out.But after the recent creash, i don't think any portfolio will help us in minimizing the loss lol
When it gets red, it is bad.For almost every alt,but you do have a huge chance of gaining profit.It's like placing bets on multiple horses.

You are in loss today, might get a positive by tomorrow.HODL ON! You bought them at a nice time :v
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June 18, 2018, 04:12:28 AM
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My Idea of an ideal portfolio is that there is not one. It depends on the individual and their finances, goals and risk appetite. Even with that it's constantly changing in every second and there's no way to have a portfolio that is dynamic enough to keep up with the market movements.

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When I heard of a word ideal, I do think it is subjective on one person comfort zone. We can’t have same trusted coin in each and every crypto users, but we have one goal to profit from it. Honesty, I’m a person of values and manners that sometimes I’m not gonna make some false hope for others to invest on what is an obvious scam. So If I invest money other than what I received in bounties are well studied and researched by me personally.

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June 18, 2018, 06:06:43 AM
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any investor will always want to maximize their profit so they invest in things that can give them the most amount of profit while keeping the risks as low as possible. investing in bitcoin does that for you.

the problem with OP's portfolio is that he made profit but also he minimized his profit by investing in multiple altcoins and holding them. go ahead and calculate his profit if you don't believe me. if he only invested in bitcoin now he could have turned that $10K into $19000 assuming he didn't sell on top and held until now and if he sold then he could have had $59000 by the end of 2017!

how much did he make with his altcoins? a lot less mostly because some of these coins are already dumped into oblivion.

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June 18, 2018, 07:16:23 AM
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Not bad, but you can think about putting some % in project with a small market cap. More risk but bigger reward. Suggestions: CVC or MSP.

I believe in this strategy and ideology. You just dump the money and come back in few years to to cash out some good profit. I think mothership is a good investment too.

Don't forget about number of ICO based on ETH platform.

Yes, etheruem has very huge platform, almost all icos are using it as payment transactions.

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Not bad, but you can think about putting some % in project with a small market cap. More risk but bigger reward. Suggestions: CVC or MSP.

I believe in this strategy and ideology. You just dump the money and come back in few years to to cash out some good profit. I think mothership is a good investment too.

Don't forget about number of ICO based on ETH platform.

Yes, etheruem has very huge platform, almost all icos are using it as payment transactions.

I actually dumped MSP a long time ago. They keep delaying everything. I've kind off lost my faith in the project and the team. It's a great buy though at the moment; cheap as hell.
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Why you didn't  put ETH in your portfolio? Does the 2nd cryptocurrency is not trustworthy at the moment? I think ETH is the most efficient platform for now. NEO and NEM is far behind. Don't forget about number of ICO based on ETH platform.
Yes that is what I thought about in the start. You have left and skipped one beautiful and potential crypto out of your list and that is ETH. How about investing some part of the money in ETH and holding it with the remaining crypto in your portfolio for the boom? Of course it will pay off. I like your love for the diversity of portfolio because the diverse portfolio shares the risk and keeps you away from loss.
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June 19, 2018, 08:37:18 PM
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an ideal portfolio should include 10 -30% cash or usdt as many may be trading from time to time in various exchange
We do have our own preferred ideal crypto portfolio and what I can see from OP though this post was from 2017 still he has a good portfolio after all.
But you know what what's missing with OP's portfolio? it is not cash / usdt but it's ethereum. Many are into ethereum but him doesn't have it instead he has chosen waves as his 2nd to the list.
There's few more talks about it here in forum but I also think that's a good portfolio.


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