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Title: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: Lucacrebbe on September 23, 2017, 08:02:01 PM
In  every market  there are  whales  and  their  main purpose  it's  to generate  pump, but  also  to ACCUMULATE  PRECIOUS coins  at  a very cheap  price
Buying them without  make  noise,  or  rumors..
In which  projects do you think the Wahles are involved' the most?







Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: alani123 on September 23, 2017, 08:14:27 PM
I think that this is close to the truth. Altcoins are holding close to the top in spite of certain amounts of pressure lately, a big breach could take them by storm under a significant event soon.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: 4hajs on September 23, 2017, 08:20:47 PM
Well let the whales be whales, you shouldn't care much about them. Just do your own resarch and invest in promising projects


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: Str1x on September 23, 2017, 08:29:09 PM
Well let the whales be whales, you shouldn't care much about them. Just do your own resarch and invest in promising projects

a whale goes for 10-20% gain in a couple of minutes. Do that a couple of times and they have their retirement fund. We the normal people just HODL for them long term 1000% gains and convert into a whale and make our own retirement fund. It's the circle of life


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: MatrixMining on September 23, 2017, 08:42:00 PM
I've been watching Mysterium price charts lately and it looks like whale accumulation period during the past few days. Downtred suddenly stopped and reverted, trading volume increased, with a few big volume spikes. Still they try to keep the price relatively low. And all this just a few days before monthly development news are expected to be published.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: burdeN on September 23, 2017, 10:02:25 PM
all well-known projects have their own "people with interest". Sometimes you can call a whale a guy, who bought' 100k of coins for 100$ which are now cost 10$ per coin


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: phreeksta on September 23, 2017, 10:08:01 PM
all well-known projects have their own "people with interest". Sometimes you can call a whale a guy, who bought' 100k of coins for 100$ which are now cost 10$ per coin

Sometimes whales manipulating prices just by spoofing. They don't even need to put their own money on the line .. instead they watch how we do the dirty work for them :-)


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: Lucacrebbe on September 23, 2017, 10:10:15 PM
all well-known projects have their own "people with interest". Sometimes you can call a whale a guy, who bought' 100k of coins for 100$ which are now cost 10$ per coin

The  whale's interest is to keep  this  price  lower as  possible  and  accumulating  little  by little , at a  cheap  price  because if  you move  100k  on a   fresh project ,  there are some  problems:

1)  the  price  of coin  will increase too soon

2)  if  a  project is  fresh  the whale doesn't  know  if it  will last or not in the future...  even promisuing  project  can FAIL... so  the  wahles  are intersted into buying  but AT THE  SAME TIME  to keep the price as lower as they can

It's  like an  elefant in a  jwellery.  It needs  to move slow.




Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: Altcoinster on September 23, 2017, 10:19:48 PM
I think the are a lot of whales at waves right now. Theyre trying to keep the price low, they have so many updates upcoming in the next months! Its a wonder that it hasnt pumped like hell for now. I think we will see some nice action in the next time!


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: Sephire on September 23, 2017, 10:58:50 PM
Well, we should follow the whales and accumulate good coins when prices are low ourselves
and ride the wave up when it comes.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: Savik on September 23, 2017, 11:47:18 PM
Big green candles keep popping up on Auroracoin on Bittrex. Check out the past few days

https://www.bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-AUR


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: Kenny001 on September 24, 2017, 12:05:43 AM
In a few years crypto will become mainstream. New millionaires will be made
Acummulate as much as you can.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: coolstory on September 24, 2017, 12:13:34 AM
I think that this is close to the truth. Altcoins are holding close to the top in spite of certain amounts of pressure lately, a big breach could take them by storm under a significant event soon.

Altcoins are like dead, and if whales are holding altcoins, we'll make crazy loss on altcoins soon once they sell their holdins.

I wish they made the altcoin prices down intentionally.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: Quietman on September 24, 2017, 02:47:46 AM
Whales sometimes causes people to panic and when people do, the will sell their coins and whales will accumulate it all. After that, price will increase the least people expects. It's is good if you'll go with the flow with the whales. You'll also profit. But if you panic easily like other people do you'll never gain. It is best if as early as you can to accumulate coins. But yeah, sometimes it's really hard to identify whether it is whales because they only work silently.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: thend1949 on September 24, 2017, 04:29:11 AM
Whales sometimes causes people to panic and when people do, the will sell their coins and whales will accumulate it all. After that, price will increase the least people expects. It's is good if you'll go with the flow with the whales. You'll also profit. But if you panic easily like other people do you'll never gain. It is best if as early as you can to accumulate coins. But yeah, sometimes it's really hard to identify whether it is whales because they only work silently.

I agree that bigger whales really threatens the desire of people specially when price fluctuates, that's nightmare to those who depended their investments in bitcoin so seriously. As I saw the current price now it's really having uncertainties, which those smaller fish easily think negative ideas that's why panic happens slightly nowadays.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: dbt1033 on September 24, 2017, 04:52:07 AM
sup?


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: tokeweed on September 24, 2017, 05:00:58 AM
In  every market  there are  whales  and  their  main purpose  it's  to generate  pump, but  also  to ACCUMULATE  PRECIOUS coins  at  a very cheap  price
Buying them without  make  noise,  or  rumors..
In which  projects do you think the Wahles are involved' the most?







Imo, the ones that haven't been pumped.  And mostly those are the Ethereum based ICO's listed after the bull run that happened last spring and ended around early June.  So yeah, tokens like BAT, CFI, SNT and the other more recent ones.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: 3DBrushes on September 24, 2017, 05:08:05 AM
sup?
Do you mean suppoman?
No he is not a whale. As soon as he uploads a new video many users buy the coin that he advertised so we will see a small spike in the price.
His main income comes from Udemy courses where 1000+ students are enrolled.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: Ayers on September 24, 2017, 05:29:40 AM
i agree this is the usual phase before the next pump, after a pump comes a dump and then a stagnation phase with accumulation and again another pump, i'm holding strong now and buy more cheap coins, but not everything some coins are meant to die


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: renes on September 24, 2017, 07:55:13 AM
Whales may be confused now, I can't guess which coins they are accumulating. I think a analyser can find coins that is being accumulated.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: followmenot on September 24, 2017, 08:13:39 AM
Yes they are. It is always same thing happening after price drops. Whales will start accumulating slowly until they cause next big explosion to make people buy in around expensive prices.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: dbt1033 on September 24, 2017, 08:26:24 AM
Whales may be confused now, I can't guess which coins they are accumulating. I think a analyser can find coins that is being accumulated.

sup?


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: Khazeter on September 24, 2017, 08:32:36 AM
Yes they are. It is always same thing happening after price drops. Whales will start accumulating slowly until they cause next big explosion to make people buy in around expensive prices.

Do you think they are accumulating Bitcoin Cash?


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: TimeHacker on September 24, 2017, 08:43:08 AM
Yes they are. It is always same thing happening after price drops. Whales will start accumulating slowly until they cause next big explosion to make people buy in around expensive prices.

Do you think they are accumulating Bitcoin Cash?

Who in their right mind would want to accumulate that? It's purely speculative asset with no long term value.


I've been watching Mysterium price charts lately and it looks like whale accumulation period during the past few days. Downtred suddenly stopped and reverted, trading volume increased, with a few big volume spikes. Still they try to keep the price relatively low. And all this just a few days before monthly development news are expected to be published.

That looks more like an accumulation IMHO.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: FarkMcBark on September 24, 2017, 10:19:26 AM
In  every market  there are  whales  and  their  main purpose  it's  to generate  pump, but  also  to ACCUMULATE  PRECIOUS coins  at  a very cheap  price
Buying them without  make  noise,  or  rumors..
In which  projects do you think the Wahles are involved' the most?



I see a lot of NEO and ZRX accumulators


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: 2double0 on September 24, 2017, 10:26:04 AM
BTS, WAVES, AMP and XEM are the four most important coins of the year which are looking extremely undervalued at the moment.
Bitshares deserves to be at least 6k due to its fastest transaction processing properties.
Waves is a project just like ETH where based on it, new tokens can be created.
AMP is currently at the very low of its support level and could shoot up anytime.
XEM has many upcoming events which could drive the price very high.
If you want to try your luck (once again a tip), Buy SC at ~120 and wait one month, the price may beat it up to 300.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: Dikobit on September 24, 2017, 12:31:10 PM
every coins has multiple whales, especially low volume ones


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: alyssa85 on September 24, 2017, 12:39:05 PM
every coins has multiple whales, especially low volume ones

This. The whales can only pump low volume coins, and coins with thin order books. You can move a coin quite a bit if the sell walls are thin.

The more liquid and heavily traded a coin is, the less volatile, and the whales tend to avoid those as it takes bigger $$$s to shift the price. 


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: leea-1334 on September 24, 2017, 01:05:19 PM
In  every market  there are  whales  and  their  main purpose  it's  to generate  pump, but  also  to ACCUMULATE  PRECIOUS coins  at  a very cheap  price
Buying them without  make  noise,  or  rumors..
In which  projects do you think the Wahles are involved' the most?

The ETH whales are the ones who are the most active in alts, I believe. They hold so much ETH and can afford to spread this out across several ICOs, to diversify out their ETH since it is impossible to exchange it all to fiat in one big dump. You want to have a clue? Just look for new ICO tokens that have managed to keep GREEN despite BTC and other alts moving down to RED.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: MartiniBlanco on September 25, 2017, 12:24:41 AM
BTS, WAVES, AMP and XEM are the four most important coins of the year which are looking extremely undervalued at the moment.
Bitshares deserves to be at least 6k due to its fastest transaction processing properties.
Waves is a project just like ETH where based on it, new tokens can be created.
AMP is currently at the very low of its support level and could shoot up anytime.
XEM has many upcoming events which could drive the price very high.
If you want to try your luck (once again a tip), Buy SC at ~120 and wait one month, the price may beat it up to 300.

Yeah waves is a strong buy imho and it is in a good buyrange. They have a very active and good dev and theyre doing great marketing to promote their coin. Its a good long term invest and a lot of whales grabbed it in the last time. It just needs a little bit more time. When the time has come, it will be huge!


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: NJB18 on September 25, 2017, 02:14:06 AM
In  every market  there are  whales  and  their  main purpose  it's  to generate  pump, but  also  to ACCUMULATE  PRECIOUS coins  at  a very cheap  price
Buying them without  make  noise,  or  rumors..
In which  projects do you think the Wahles are involved' the most?







Whales are everywhere. Even in shitcoins, whales are earning big profits. Remember, they are whales. They will not only cause pumps, they will also cause dumps with all their very big coin holdings and strategies. They will dump and buy as much when the price is already low.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: inthelongrun on September 25, 2017, 02:32:04 AM
In  every market  there are  whales  and  their  main purpose  it's  to generate  pump, but  also  to ACCUMULATE  PRECIOUS coins  at  a very cheap  price
Buying them without  make  noise,  or  rumors..
In which  projects do you think the Wahles are involved' the most?







Top projects are where whales are lingering. But I think some whales are also playing the bottom projects because they can easily manipulate the prices there. Whales are greedy. The are the huge ones that will somehow affect the movements of the charts.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: RedX on September 25, 2017, 02:38:02 AM
In  every market  there are  whales  and  their  main purpose  it's  to generate  pump, but  also  to ACCUMULATE  PRECIOUS coins  at  a very cheap  price
Buying them without  make  noise,  or  rumors..
In which  projects do you think the Wahles are involved' the most?




I think they choose whatever coin that they want to pump and the cheaper the coin is the bigger the profit for them. Just 1btc and the price of any altcoin will change dramatically and just a little trolling on exchange chatbox, facebook, twiiter or telegram and they're going to exit happily with big profits after the sudden pump.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: Mr.Stinson on September 25, 2017, 06:17:01 AM
Whales are doing what everyone should do to archieve maximum profit: Fill your stocks when the price is low and watch it grow


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: asdalani on September 25, 2017, 08:00:42 AM
In  every market  there are  whales  and  their  main purpose  it's  to generate  pump, but  also  to ACCUMULATE  PRECIOUS coins  at  a very cheap  price
Buying them without  make  noise,  or  rumors..
In which  projects do you think the Wahles are involved' the most?






The Whales are probably investing in Ethereum and purchasing them while the price is low. They might have a feeling that the price could go to a $1,000 per coin.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: diguyo on September 25, 2017, 08:12:21 AM
Whales are the reason NOT to buy into a pump. They'll use their massive buy orders to drive the price up, and then sell/pull out so it collapses and they can buy on the cheap and do the same again. Be very very careful when buying a coin that's on a rapid increase/pump, check out the buy and sell orders, are there any walls etc? Generally, try to avoid. If you get whales buying your coin, make sure you sell before they move on, but try to avoid joining in when they strike...even if it pays off once in a while, it'll end badly.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: coiner495 on September 25, 2017, 09:02:29 AM
In  every market  there are  whales  and  their  main purpose  it's  to generate  pump, but  also  to ACCUMULATE  PRECIOUS coins  at  a very cheap  price
Buying them without  make  noise,  or  rumors..
In which  projects do you think the Wahles are involved' the most?

Size of what you call whale depends on a project. For bitcoin you must have $100M+ of cash you can risk. For smaller projects $1000-worth could be a whale. I would think of a whale as of someone who has enough funds to keep buying (or selling) moving the price 20-30%. Look for daily trading volume on coinmarketcap to get an estimation of how much money you need.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: cryptocrusher on September 25, 2017, 09:45:49 AM
'Whales' are always accumulating and dumping across all coins in order to influence the price and take their profits. If you follow a certain market it is so clear to see when whales are using their financial strength to influence the market.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: aldrian09 on September 25, 2017, 10:24:41 AM
This scenario is not new in crypto and whales plays a big role in the market so for as long as you know that you invested in the right coin you don't need to worry anything.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: arbitrage on September 25, 2017, 10:52:40 AM
This accumulation is on autopilot. Whales do not operate without bots because this is time-consuming, and requires much work, which can be done much easier with bots. The majority of coins which have been red some time now is accumulating, this is simple. Now you do not have to be bright to earn some money, buy and hold some time. If you want to achieve something better 5x or 10x you must work a lot on investigating.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: novaprime on September 25, 2017, 11:29:28 AM
'Whales' are always accumulating and dumping across all coins in order to influence the price and take their profits. If you follow a certain market it is so clear to see when whales are using their financial strength to influence the market.
I agree with you . Whales are always ahead of us and they will find ways to market x2 and this is really easy for them. I think it is very difficult to find whales that are accumulating beacause they handle very professionally


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: Saoha on September 25, 2017, 12:18:11 PM
In  every market  there are  whales  and  their  main purpose  it's  to generate  pump, but  also  to ACCUMULATE  PRECIOUS coins  at  a very cheap  price
Buying them without  make  noise,  or  rumors..
In which  projects do you think the Wahles are involved' the most?



Whales always create hurricanes that make altcoin fall pathetic to wait for investors to sell and they buy cheap. Then suddenly make altcoin rise rapidly. Very dangerous. All you need is patience and you will win. You wait when the coin price is low and buy it. Then sell when receiving profit.


Title: Re: The Whales are accumulating..
Post by: kawacaki on September 25, 2017, 12:26:07 PM
SAFEX is well known for whales suppressing the price,
but that problem will take care of it self once the volume picks up.