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Title: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: sairon on May 30, 2013, 06:10:59 PM
Hi!

Finally managed to fix server, so I created something new:
Yacoin Network Graphs! Plotted from fresh block explorer data at http://explorer.yacoin.org (http://explorer.yacoin.org), updated every hour. Includes difficulty, network hashrate and block interval. All time and last 24 hours (1440 blocks). Tips and suggestions appreciated. ;)

Here they are, have fun!
http://explorer.yacoin.org/graphs.htm (http://explorer.yacoin.org/graphs.htm)


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: azwccc on May 30, 2013, 06:50:33 PM
looks great, will be greater if a toggle marker can be added, so the user can see the exact value at a certain point.


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: sairon on May 30, 2013, 07:18:40 PM
looks great, will be greater if a toggle marker can be added, so the user can see the exact value at a certain point.

It's just static png generated every hour by gnuplot. :D I might migrate it to JavaScript or something when I have the time.


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: JahPowerBit on May 30, 2013, 07:23:33 PM
nice job! thank you!

a text which explains why the hasrate decreases abruptly at each change of N would presumably welcome.


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: sairon on May 30, 2013, 07:37:13 PM
nice job! thank you!

a text which explains why the hasrate decreases abruptly at each change of N would presumably welcome.

Good point, I'll add a plot of Nfactor value to each graph or something.


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: theprofileth on May 30, 2013, 07:40:45 PM
nice job! thank you!

a text which explains why the hasrate decreases abruptly at each change of N would presumably welcome.
Infact it would be probably smarter to just include an additional line in each graph with the values "corrected" for the N factor changes as to compare the original speed to the current without having to mentally translate the graphs.
Essentially just look up the date of the shifts aka here
YACoin Technical Data
(this post will contain information about the basic parameters of YACoin, including more information on the hashing algorithm which is *not* called scrypt-jane, timeframe for N increases, PoS details when they become known, etc)


The schedule of N changes for YACoin is:

Nfactor   N   Memory   UNIX Time    Date/Time in GMT    Hashrate for 2x Xeon E5450
4324kB1367991200Wed - 08 May 2013 - 05:33:20 GMT358,770
5648kB1368515488Tue - 14 May 2013 - 07:11:28 GMT279,158
612816kB1368777632Fri - 17 May 2013 - 08:00:32 GMT193,995
725632kB1369039776Mon - 20 May 2013 - 08:49:36 GMT119,252
851264kB1369826208Wed - 29 May 2013 - 11:16:48 GMT66,956
91024128kB1370088352Sat - 01 Jun 2013 - 12:05:52 GMT34,803
102048256kB1372185504Tue - 25 Jun 2013 - 18:38:24 GMT18,013
114096512kB1373234080Sun - 07 Jul 2013 - 21:54:40 GMT9,077
1281921MB1376379808Tue - 13 Aug 2013 - 07:43:28 GMT4,595
13163842MB1380574112Mon - 30 Sep 2013 - 20:48:32 GMT2,276
14327684MB1384768416Mon - 18 Nov 2013 - 09:53:36 GMT606
15655368MB1401545632Sat - 31 May 2014 - 14:13:52 GMT187
1613107216MB1409934240Fri - 05 Sep 2014 - 16:24:00 GMT81
1726214432MB1435100064Tue - 23 Jun 2015 - 22:54:24 GMT30.55
1852428864MB1468654496Sat - 16 Jul 2016 - 07:34:56 GMT14.80
191048576128MB1502208928Tue - 08 Aug 2017 - 16:15:28 GMT7.16
202097152256MB1602872224Fri - 16 Oct 2020 - 18:17:04 GMT3.5
214194304512MB1636426656Tue - 09 Nov 2021 - 02:57:36 GMT1.73
2283886081GB1904862112Mon - 13 May 2030 - 00:21:52 GMT1.07
23167772162GB2173297568Sat - 13 Nov 2038 - 21:46:08 GMT
24335544324GB2441733024Fri - 17 May 2047 - 19:10:24 GMT
25671088648GB3247039392Tue - 22 Nov 2072 - 11:23:12 GMT
2613421772816GB3515474848Mon - 26 May 2081 - 08:47:28 GMT
2726843545632GB5662958496Sat - 14 Jun 2149 - 12:01:36 GMT
2853687091264GB6736700320Tue - 24 Jun 2183 - 01:38:40 GMT
291073741824128GB9957925792Tue - 21 Jul 2285 - 18:29:52 GMT
302147483648256GB14252893088Sat - 28 Aug 2421 - 00:58:08 GMT


N is calculated from Nfactor as follows:
N = 1 << ( Nfactor + 1 )
Then just multiply by the approximate decrease of each shift,which were approximately a 45% decrease with each shift so just multiply by 20/11 and you just get about what you need to effectively show the corrected hashrate and such.


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: azwccc on May 30, 2013, 08:19:18 PM
On 18 Nov 2013, the hashrate will be 1/100 of the current hashrate with same cpu?





Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: sairon on May 30, 2013, 08:25:00 PM
On 18 Nov 2013, the hashrate will be 1/100 of the current hashrate with same cpu?
Indeed, but difficulty will be lowered so that a block is found each minute.


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: nocoin on May 30, 2013, 08:26:33 PM
The schedule of N changes for YACoin is:
Nfactor   N   Memory   UNIX Time    Date/Time in GMT    Hashrate for 2x Xeon E5450
91024128kB1370088352Sat - 01 Jun 2013 - 12:05:52 GMT34,803
Will it be GPU burst on N=1024? Is scrypt-jane(1024,1,1) is the same thing as litecoins' scrypt(1024,1,1)?


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: sairon on May 30, 2013, 08:42:54 PM
Will it be GPU burst on N=1024? Is scrypt-jane(1024,1,1) is the same thing as litecoins' scrypt(1024,1,1)?

No, scrypt-jane is just a library implementing multiple scrypt variants, LTC uses a different hashing and mixing function, so LTC miner will NOT work with YAC. You must modify scrypt GPU kernel to use the right scrypt variant (already done by at least 3 people). Also, GPUs will (probably) be hit hard on N=8192.


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: bitdwarf on May 30, 2013, 08:46:37 PM
Awesome! Posting to follow updates.


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: sairon on May 30, 2013, 11:31:24 PM
How do you guys like the new graphs? I changed the way Nfactor is plotted.

How long until we have difficulty less than 1? :D


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: procrypto on May 30, 2013, 11:50:52 PM
Nice work, loving this. Look forward to the upgrade to JS  :)



Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: sairon on June 01, 2013, 04:36:17 PM
Added a table with Nfactor increase dates/times, memory usage and CPU/GPU hashing speed comparison.
http://yacexplorer.tk/graphs.htm#tech (http://yacexplorer.tk/graphs.htm#tech)


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: mr_random on June 01, 2013, 04:47:46 PM
Interesting graphs. How did you carry out those GPU simulations? Is there a GPU miner out there for YAC? ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: sairon on June 01, 2013, 04:50:18 PM
Interesting graphs. How did you carry out those GPU simulations? Is there a GPU miner out there for YAC? ;)
There are at least 4 GPU miner implementations, although none of them has been released as of now. mtrlt claims to have made the fastest one so far, see: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=206577.msg2241855#msg2241855 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=206577.msg2241855#msg2241855)


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: mr_random on June 01, 2013, 04:54:49 PM
Interesting graphs. How did you carry out those GPU simulations? Is there a GPU miner out there for YAC? ;)
There are at least 4 GPU miner implementations, although none of them has been released as of now. mtrlt claims to have made the fastest one so far, see: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=206577.msg2241855#msg2241855

Nice find. Glad I am not a YAC miner lol.


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: hanzac on June 01, 2013, 05:06:04 PM
Really like it.


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: sairon on June 01, 2013, 08:30:57 PM
Random Yacoin Facts:
  • There are 30616 addresses used so far.
  • Top 10 receiving addresses:
Code:
address                                received
YBJeQQFCipbC4LrZTnTu6j5rSAMsqRkGJb     441151.00000000
Y8pzvdVPNKjhRQYnRWGd1sEcE7WKrGpqcV     314843.88000000
YDFcVs8sxTbym6K6msd2ziXtp8kwYhG1rw     304656.25000000
YJH8f3XKtTXWHpCAgYpQCi5HAQ7SCPGSXA     273753.93000000
Y2e1VP9ZpwYCbVMk7RRhGDLwRKyuQwjzGQ     186557.13978700
Y42xBGnxyoNfHDfvGiVfH8D8U34xthPxy8     159695.18000000
YAP2R5EfeiBSREwUJmdKEzd5HhvmpfkLHs     142114.29000000
Y5M9ec642cQGfe35HyYwqgNxvKr4ufoWiT     110849.44126400
Y9A8mdy2rqFihhGssGZEc7Npg5YZU4byHX     102909.92500000
YNwKaaULjo2hPJCi4FzVvqLonykLAq6SPT     102909.56990000
  • Top 10 sending addresses:
Code:
address                                sent
YDFcVs8sxTbym6K6msd2ziXtp8kwYhG1rw     304656.25000000
YAP2R5EfeiBSREwUJmdKEzd5HhvmpfkLHs     142114.29000000
Y5M9ec642cQGfe35HyYwqgNxvKr4ufoWiT     110849.44126400
YNwKaaULjo2hPJCi4FzVvqLonykLAq6SPT     102909.56990000
Y5JxizRK44ahePgNqgZDRjE9Bks58NohWQ      90320.46000000
Y5ve8DUxxUsX2uwcw54Mpwp4zV1gTeB56y      82832.35000000
YB24c3Uwenem72g7dhY5aP2RJg8oY72pzL      82732.00000000
Y1UdvTxdfMrCckK8S4ceS7VxR3ivx7yWMq      76614.71400000
YF3gMrRKbgL3kkNwG42XnBzjk23wvgWi7W      74413.44000000
Y7YMAVrC6YYe28kgqEog9e2LbjU5iTHhsm      67241.13272900
  • Top 10 addresses by final balance:
Code:
address                                balance
YBJeQQFCipbC4LrZTnTu6j5rSAMsqRkGJb     441131.00000000
Y8pzvdVPNKjhRQYnRWGd1sEcE7WKrGpqcV     314843.88000000
YJH8f3XKtTXWHpCAgYpQCi5HAQ7SCPGSXA     273741.93000000
Y2e1VP9ZpwYCbVMk7RRhGDLwRKyuQwjzGQ     185299.17978700
Y42xBGnxyoNfHDfvGiVfH8D8U34xthPxy8      99431.00000000
Y9kxx3oWXnVGV5gd8yHUMWcmV3BFRaLQAX      91402.91000000
Y4D4gQ32YhGP61CTRHJG9HM9M8HRAxMHom      74280.00000000
YMbVUEiaTEKM5wvQFtQ9cM9fNUMYceiVYA      70000.00000000
Y9A8mdy2rqFihhGssGZEc7Npg5YZU4byHX      52910.14500000
Y1dncJeBobRiYiBop6LWsUXq9fm8HbQfsp      50853.56924000


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: St.Bit on June 06, 2013, 02:40:38 PM
Top 10 addresses by final balance:
I started a threat on yacointalk about these huge wallets, but it would be nice to have more infos on that. Could you please add a graph showing (f.e Top 100 or even more) of the biggest adresses. The numbers for themselve seem to be useless but distribution charts of some sort could be useful.

EDIT: Oh and by the way, keep up the good work!


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: sairon on June 16, 2013, 02:02:59 PM
Occassionaly, one of the images, two of them or all three images on the right does not show up.

It's a known issue. Usually it comes up on the next graph update (every hour). I'll look into it when I have the time.


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: sairon on July 15, 2013, 04:33:26 PM
Now with a countdown to next Nfactor change on the graphs page! (javascript required)
Also, added timestamp of last graph update.


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: sairon on August 14, 2013, 05:24:04 PM
Changed the Y axis of the all-time network hashrate graph to logarithmic scale, in order to to able to see the current hashrate. :D


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: igysa on August 14, 2013, 06:44:57 PM
block time is so slow now after N changed.. takes ages to verify transfer :(


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: Bakaboy on August 14, 2013, 07:16:32 PM
block time is so slow now after N changed.. takes ages to verify transfer :(

Takes a while for the difficulty to adjust, no recourse but to wait.


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: sairon on August 15, 2013, 07:18:48 PM
block time is so slow now after N changed.. takes ages to verify transfer :(
Takes a while for the difficulty to adjust, no recourse but to wait.

Just another 108 seconds less and we're back at 60. :D

Also, top 50 richest addresses list updated as per request at http://yacointalk.com/index.php/topic,425.0.html (http://yacointalk.com/index.php/topic,425.0.html)
Someone now owns (at least) 0.6M YAC (out of 5.6M), cool!


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: sairon on August 17, 2013, 10:15:05 AM
Modified difficulty graphs to NOT show PoS difficulty, as it is orders of magnitude lower than PoW diff (uses different "scale", but it was displayed as 0.25 - which is now higher than PoW diff, LOL).


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: sairon on September 13, 2013, 01:13:58 PM
Address balance list updated up to block #210732. Also, here's a normalized hashrate graph, assuming 50% hashrate decrease on each Nfactor change (I'm not entirely convinced it's correct). The formula I'm using is:
Code:
f_normalize(time, hashrate) = hashrate / (0.5**(f_getNfactor(time) - 9))
where 0.5 is the hashrate decrease factor and 9 is the Nfactor we're normalizing for (N=1024 as in litecoin and other altcoins).
I don't like the sharp drops after each Nfactor change. Any clues as to why might this be happening? Could this be because of broken GPU miners that needed code changes for each N change? Also, need feedback on the 50% figure.
http://yacexplorer.tk/graph/normhashrate.png


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: Joe_Bauers on September 13, 2013, 01:22:42 PM
Address balance list updated up to block #210732. Also, here's a normalized hashrate graph, assuming 50% hashrate decrease on each Nfactor change (I'm not entirely convinced it's correct). The formula I'm using is:
Code:
f_normalize(time, hashrate) = hashrate / (0.5**(f_getNfactor(time) - 9))
where 0.5 is the hashrate decrease factor and 9 is the Nfactor we're normalizing for (N=1024 as in litecoin and other altcoins).
I don't like the sharp drops after each Nfactor change. Any clues as to why might this be happening? Could this be because of broken GPU miners that needed code changes for each N change? Also, need feedback on the 50% figure.
http://yacexplorer.tk/graph/normhashrate.png

Looks good sairon!  I also think it might be useful to show normalized difficulty, but I'm also not entirely convinced that the formula is correct. I am quite certain though that the sharp drops after each N change are due to h/w errors, and essentially is showing that YACoin is working as designed - i.e. it's a CPU coin. 


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: patoberli on March 05, 2014, 03:28:19 PM
Link is sadly dead now :(


Title: Re: [ANN][YAC] Yacoin Network Graphs!
Post by: Joe_Bauers on March 06, 2014, 05:32:01 PM
The explorer page is now @ explorer.yacoin.org  Post has been updated.