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People who ordered so far:
1.Unit (120 GH) - Ba******s (have payed yet)
2.unit (120 GH) - Da********l (have payed)
3.unit (120 GH) - Sitarow (have payed)
4.Unit (120 GH) - Ku******t (have payed)
5.Unit (120 GH) -ac*****le (have p
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Group buy:
We have now collected 0 bitcoins, if anyone is still interested in group buy, please pm me.

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As some of you might know, Metabank is opening their pre-order for Bitfury asic, but they are not shipping anywhere except Russia.


https://metabank.ru/asic
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183368.0

So im openning a group buy, and will host them.

And im also selling each asic unit individually.

Product Description:

The price is fixed in dollars, and will be translated to bitcoins, based on mtgox.
The only payment accepted is Bitcoin.
The chips are based on 65 nm
Each chip is capable of 5 Gh
Each chip consumes 0.7W / 1Gh/s
Estimated shipping dates August-October


Terms:
1) Each bitfury asic is capable of 120 Gh/s, and my price is 3250$ each, or 25 bitcoins(based on mtgox at the moment) including shipping.

2) I will host it for a 10% fee.

3) Depends on the demand, im ready to host up to 10 asic units.

3) Minimum BTC required to invest is 1BTC! Which equates to about 5gh/s!

4) You will be responsible for paying your own individual customs fee, once you receive your asic.

5) Asics will be shipped as soon as i receive them.

6) Why you should trust me? I have been in this forum for quite a while. I have been doing group buy, for avalon asic 3-rd batch.


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Policy:

Refunds(correctred): refunds are only eccepted if you bought a whole asic device for 3250$, and will be payed within 30 days, in bitcoins, you will receive the amount of bitcoins you payed.

Note: If you want to pickup your order in person, you may do so by appointment, in Moscow.

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Ordering:


For Group Buys:

payment address: 199vfxehA9ZFMNpHYL3vebHS5bUfbM

Post your order in the following format: <Group Buy>; <forum nick>; <amount of bitcoins>; <mtgox price at the moment>; <sending bitcoin address> ;
ensure the sending address is under your control, so you can sign with it in case of disputes
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For an asic Unit:

Each asic unit costs 3250$

So in order to calculate the needed amount of bitcoins, devide 3250 by the gox price, and send this amount of bitcoins.
Example: 3250$ devide by 126.6 = 25.67 bitcoins

payment address:  12Y6HqoZvJuEVurEiCP9DKxTcof

Post your order in the following format: <Asic Unit>; <forum nick>; <amount of bitcoins>; <mtgox price at the moment>; <sending bitcoin address> ;
ensure the sending address is under your control, so you can sign with it in case of disputes

Beware.
im not 100% sure that MetaBank will ship those asics, but they seem 99% legit.
Because of that I do not take any responsibility for the risks associated with them.

p.s. if you got any questions, feel free to send me a private message, but remember about the time difference between our countries.

best part :D

Yeah, this looks strange, but metabank states that they will make a refund only in 30 days.
They refund dollars, so i guess no one would like to invest 25 bitcoins, and then receive only 20 or even 15 bitcoins.
So ones, i make a pre-order, theres no refunds.

corrected

Bitfury ASIC --- are they real??

Not sure if they are really real?

I have a feeling you're not going to hear a peep out of Bitfury until one day there's going to be a slew of pictures and data posted.  I also imagine when it does show up, it'll be something impressive.

well they definitely don't look like a scam.
so 99% that they are legit.

And i think, there wont be big delays

They don't look like a scam based on what exactly? I don't speak russian so I'm at a disadvantage, but I don't see any pics of prototypes, designs, models, contracts with fabbers, etc. Have they made any previous products, like FPGAs or whatever?
The non-refundable no-chargeback bitcoin only sale is nerve-wracking.

I'm just curious what makes you so confident in these russian fellows.

That's risky for you and the buyer if price shifts, probably better to fix to fiat via exchange price.

Looks like guys from Moscow got directly access to china's facility that made ASICS for BFL (lol).
65nm, 5Gh ....

@ailikun i LOVE your signature ;) .

I did Not understand this :

Do i have to organise my own group buy or could i directly order 5 gh/s from you ?

If I understood it right, I can order an Asic unit through you and pick it up in person.
You are asking 3250$ for this service, it's a margin of 1090$; fair enough  :P

In which or near which big city do you live in Russia ?

You can order directly from me, and i will host it.
But i will be able to order an asic, only if we collect 3250$ or an equivalent of 25.2 bitcoins at the moment(based on the gox price)
the preorders are gonna be opened for a few days.
if we collect enough money within those few days, i will order an asic.
if not, i will refund your bitcoins back.

i agree, but the sellers of an bitfury asic, stated, that they will refund only bitcoins.

In Moscow.

oh gosh, people really liked to copy my topic, one by one)

Update:
theres not that many asics left, around 100 or so.
So if youre still interesred, hurry.

looks promising to me. At least the price is not as bad as with the others..  ;)

These are my questions, you can decide if they are valid.

Yes, there are reasons to doubt them.
But i myself ordered 4 asics.

As i once believed in 1-st batch avalon, i believe them to.

And hope my risks will pay off.

If this project does succeed it will be good to further decentralize the network.

I will also be providing cgminer team with access to the unit to get cgminer's code primed for its operation.

Well I still don't see anyone linking any reasoning behind why this isn't just a fly-by-night scam, but I guess we can all just hope for the best.

It's not like this is the only opportunity we will get to purchase these asic devices.

Once its confirmed it will be like avalon batch 2 and batch 3 pre-orders.

Hopefully we will know if the Bitfury chips work some time later this week.

Yes of course.
Metabank stated some time ago, that in a few weeks(months ???) they will be selling those asics again.
But the price would be significally different.

Could you tell me something more about group buy?
I would like to invest some bitcoins...

a group buy is only possible if we collect enough bitcoins for atleast 1 unit.
at the current moment its 27.5 bitcoins(based on gox price)
and, i will host it for a 10% fee, or i can send it to anyone, the group would decide to send it to, and someone else might host it.

if the needed amount of bitcoins wouldnt be collected, i will return all the bitcoins collected, back.

If anybody is interested: I'm with ailikun, he will host for me. I live in germany and I consider flying to moscow and pickup in person. If you too live in germany or near me (I live in the south, so: switzerland, austria,..) or within the EU I can pick your asic up as well for a little fee + customs/VAT/whatev is charged on me. You can then pick it up at my side or I will send it via DHL right to you.
If anybody is interested PM me.

friend of mine wants to be part of the groupbuy but is still n the noobie zone, so I copy this for her:


also another friend is thinking about a groupbuy (5 BTC), but it seems nobody did invest yet. So I think if anybody would start the rest will follow. I hope it's not too late for them

Yes I approve this information.
If somebody is living in europe, dani can personally pick-up your asic from me.


Group buy:
We have now collected 11 bitcoins, if anyone is still interested in group buy, please pm me.

I am interested. But I wonder where you did collect the money for the group buy?

> For Group Buys:
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> payment address: 17ovfxehA9ZFMNpHYL3vebHS5biYMFUfbM

https://blockchain.info/address/17ovfxehA9ZFMNpHYL3vebHS5biYMFUfbM (https://blockchain.info/address/17ovfxehA9ZFMNpHYL3vebHS5biYMFUfbM)

Nothing received.

I will send you an private mail.

Ralf

Good day.
By the word, "we", a meant that dani collected 11 bitcoins from his friends for group buy, but he still havent sended them to my wallet.
because for some reason people are writing to me about group buy, but dont wont to be the first ones who sends bitcoins... strange)

if youve got any questions feel free to ask.

Hi,

i just want to make clear im not associated with alilikun, i simply ordered with him, so theres no confusion.
I also have to say that the groupbuy I was managing won't work out, sadly. Others should simply post if they are interested and groupbuy when enough interest was collected

I see.
Well then group buy starting from 0$ again.
Pm me if interested.

i can still order 2-3 inits.
Pm me, if someone is still interested.

i will also be in Berlin, and Sweden semewhere around october.
So if by that time, metabank will ship them, i will be able to meet with you in those countries.

hello. We started to make a open census of those who made  pre-orders. If you do not want to publish your nicknames and number orders, you can add as AnonimousXXX (possibly breaking your order into several AnonimousXXX,for greater privacy)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmyZBD2EHCEEdG9SdENBV0l4YnNuNklrdDItMTJwdlE#gid=0

I have already added our orders to that list.
Thnx for your concern.

I got a passport scan of ailikun and I think it looks good. I don't want to convince anyone into anything, just saying. It should go without saying I will not post personal details or a copy of that, but like he (i think he said) said he lives in moscow, sounds good for pickup right at the manufacture.

Why you say fair enough?? he is making $1090 per 120gh/s Asic??

and bitcoin payment is a 1 way journey is not CC or Paypal where you get protection!!

It was ironic.

You hardly know this guys? Have you seen their pictures and photos? You are paying by bitcoin and not paypal. Did they went to the Bitcoin 2013 conference?

In Avalon and Butterfly you seen these guys around including Yifu of Avalon very transparent. If they SCAM YOU do you dare go Russia & find them???

If it is a SCAM it is bye bye to your bitcoin...

Oh come on... thats just nonsense.
I guess, your style of life, is propaganda all around you.

Do you think, that if someone scammed you in U.S. you will have more chances of finding him.
Or do you even think, that you will be looking for him?

People all around the world are the same.
Bad people and good people... it has nothing to do with russia.

Its up to you, weather to believe someone or not.
But please, leave this propaganda thing, within yourself.

And stop this offtopic.

Yeah, just because it's in Russia doesn't mean it's a scam.

Each person has to choose what proof they need to be able to send money.  Personally I would have a very difficult time sending money to someone I know nothing about, that has done nothing to prove their reputation to me, hasn't proven ability, hasn't shown prior experience...  have they even given real names?  With the way Terrahash was persecuted, I thought people would be more careful.

I hope everything works out, I would seriously be very grateful to any company that can give some hashing to the public.  If they start giving information, and it looks good, I'll add them to my list.  Please let me know:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=209750

Sended you a pm.

It's getting interesting! Bitfury posted that he should recieve the engineering samles around the 13th of june, and he will then send 10-30 chips to alpha testers with EE experience!

The more I read from him the more I get excited about this miner, the fact that he can go deep into technical details and is willing to offer some chips for testing make it much more credible Let's hope the samples turn out well and aren't flawed!

Still some shares left?  Wanna come on board :)

Or when someone jumps off - I would jump in :)

shares left?

no, the pre-order is already closed

Meanwhile in Russia:

Metabank Prototype PCB with space for 48 bitfury chips  :)
According to bitfury, output should be 150-160GH/s
2-3 weeks until they get the first prototypes!

Exciting times!!

Metabank wrote today (google translated):


Seems like they need to spend some pre-order funds for getting all electronic components. ailikun did you get a letter from metabank?

I guesstimate that they begin shipping in the middle of September...  8)

achimsmile , text of the letter

Thanks a lot fsb!

Anyone got a phone number or email so I can reach elijah? He is not online in skype and its pretty urgent. Please pm me if you can help. Thanks ;)