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Title: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: AMDS1A on October 06, 2017, 12:37:05 PM
I made a purchase, I paid in bitcoin and the person did not give me the product.
Do you have any means to recover what was paid, since you do not want to deliver the product?


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: Reid on October 06, 2017, 12:41:06 PM
I made a purchase, I paid in bitcoin and the person did not give me the product.
Do you have any means to recover what was paid, since you do not want to deliver the product?

If it is p2p then you should've made sure first that the person can be trusted. It is not like Paypal here. Once the transaction was done it cannot be taken back.
Why dont you post the transaction details here and if he is someone trusted and he provided information which is glued to his address then he could be traced somehow.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: phreeksta on October 06, 2017, 12:45:42 PM
I made a purchase, I paid in bitcoin and the person did not give me the product.
Do you have any means to recover what was paid, since you do not want to deliver the product?

Nope, it is a one-way ticket. No way to get anything back, since in Bitcoin there is no company behind controlling everything.

Like Reid said, post your details in this thread. There is always a risk when buying stuff from a total stranger on the internet. You always need to be careful with things like that.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: gentlemand on October 06, 2017, 12:49:37 PM
Was it via a website or forum? If so then there might be some recourse in terms of bad rep but the actual transaction can't be reversed.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: talkbitcoin on October 06, 2017, 12:53:34 PM
it depends on "where" you made your purchase. obviously if it was from a reputable person/website you simply open a ticket with them and you get either your goods or your money back.

if you made the purchase from some shady unknown person on the internet then just kiss your money goodbye and next time remember to use either escrow (a third party trusted person) or use a 2 out of 2 multi sig key with the seller.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: boyptc on October 06, 2017, 12:56:21 PM
I made a purchase, I paid in bitcoin and the person did not give me the product.
Do you have any means to recover what was paid, since you do not want to deliver the product?

How did you transacted with that person? Did you use a website or an escrow? If you haven't used an escrow then your deal with any person is at risk. And what is that product either, did he gave you any words after sending the payment for the products you'll avail? There's no way to get what you paid unless he'll send it back. Please clarify and put specific information that we need to know.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: Chyton on October 06, 2017, 12:58:04 PM
Nope, there is no way to recover what has you paid to the seller since this is one of the Bitcoin's main feature which is no chargeback.
Everytime a Bitcoin transaction is sent, there is no way to redo it if it has been verified but if the transaction is not verified for a certain amount of time, the transaction won't be sent. So if your transaction has confirmation then I'm afraid you can't recover what have you sent.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: peter0425 on October 06, 2017, 12:59:52 PM
I made a purchase, I paid in bitcoin and the person did not give me the product.
Sad to say that you have been scammed.

Do you have any means to recover what was paid, since you do not want to deliver the product?
Nope. Bitcoin transaction is irreversible. It p2p which means no third party involved. Care you share more information though? Perhaps the Transaction id or even the identify of the person who you deal with if the individual is a member of the forum. He/she can be tag and that is like a red flag and a heads up for the community not to deal with them since they are not trusted.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: Heyyyrenz on October 06, 2017, 01:00:35 PM
You know what? you can't get back your bitcoin. Maybe you can track his/her transaction but you can't take it back (In my opinion). Internet is wild field, there are many peoples in it and the bad thing about it is that you don't know who's in the other site of the internet, her/his intention.

Nowadays there are many people who wants to take advantages to others. So the lesson here is to use escrow and don't trust easily to people you don't know because you don't know his/her true intention.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: josephinerosdy on October 06, 2017, 01:02:02 PM
I made a purchase, I paid in bitcoin and the person did not give me the product.
Do you have any means to recover what was paid, since you do not want to deliver the product?
i think you got scammed if you didn't receive it  :-\
nothing way to getting back your bitcoin. be carefull next time use trusted escrow


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: molsewid on October 06, 2017, 01:05:14 PM
I made a purchase, I paid in bitcoin and the person did not give me the product.
Do you have any means to recover what was paid, since you do not want to deliver the product?
First you need to contact the support to ask them regarding this matter secondly is you can't get back what you've already sent to the seller because first it is risk to buy online thru bitcoin payment method. 3rd If you the website is familiar it is easy for you to contact the support and ask about wheres your ordered is just give them the full details of your transaction even the payments.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: ledu_ico on October 06, 2017, 01:14:16 PM
I made a purchase, I paid in bitcoin and the person did not give me the product.
Do you have any means to recover what was paid, since you do not want to deliver the product?
Bitcoin transactions cannot be reversed. However, if you would have used escrow services, transactions would be safe for both parties. Other than that there is no way to get your bitcoins back unless the person is willingly going to refund you.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: MMysterious on October 06, 2017, 01:14:43 PM
It depends on how you made the transaction and where you paid that person but chances are very low to retrieve back your bitcoin. A lot have been victimized by scammers so you should be very careful buying products to persons you barely know. Use an escrow if you don't know the person.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: piloder on October 06, 2017, 01:17:29 PM
I made a purchase, I paid in bitcoin and the person did not give me the product.
Do you have any means to recover what was paid, since you do not want to deliver the product?
Post more detail about your purchase, if the guy to whom you have sent bitcoin is just scammer than he will not deliver any product to you and will not send you your bitcoin back. You can't file charge back against the seller like in other reversible payment methods because bitcoin payments are irreversible.

Looks like your bitcoin is gone.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: YuginKadoya on October 06, 2017, 01:21:31 PM
I made a purchase, I paid in bitcoin and the person did not give me the product.
Do you have any means to recover what was paid, since you do not want to deliver the product?
Post more detail about your purchase, if the guy to whom you have sent bitcoin is just scammer than he will not deliver any product to you and will not send you your bitcoin back. You can't file charge back against the seller like in other reversible payment methods because bitcoin payments are irreversible.

Looks like your bitcoin is gone.

Yes it is hard to be undone because the transaction had been already made I think getting an escrow is needed if you don't trust a direct transaction with the seller because it is totally a misguided word of trust that is needed, and I think you would need to read comment first before engaging in a transaction involving bitcoin.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: bob123 on October 06, 2017, 01:30:09 PM
Its important to know where you made your purchase. Was it on this forum? Online shop? Deep web? Someone you chatted with on skype?
If you can't contact support you probably lost your BTC's.. but you can do start investigations. If you can find out who this person is you can take legal actions.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: stompix on October 06, 2017, 01:37:42 PM
I made a purchase, I paid in bitcoin and the person did not give me the product.
Do you have any means to recover what was paid, since you do not want to deliver the product?

How about you post some info about this whole situation.
I tried to buy something from someone I met / a store / a website i ordered online I spoke with them , I know who they are , I sent x amount of coins worth z dollars.

Do you think we are all Nostradamus here to instantly know from one line what happened?

And the only mode you might be able to recover this is by filling a complain at your nearest police station although your chances are not only slim, but almost negative.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: RodeoX on October 06, 2017, 01:38:44 PM
ONLY deal with licensed businesses. Otherwise you are completely relying on the honesty of the counter-party. You may also consider escrow using a trusted entity.  


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: Svelto on October 06, 2017, 02:05:07 PM
Sorry to say there is no way to reverse a crypto currency payment. That is why using an escrow is important, please consider paying the escrow fees than losing your bitcoin.

Which website or source did you buy from? Perhaps you would like to share to warn other members.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: freebutcaged on October 06, 2017, 02:24:02 PM
Fortunately mate so far every purchases I had with Bitcoin was the best experience for me, no credit card and no hassle just an address and the amount

I had a few failed purchases but the merchants refunded me, when you are buying something with Bitcoin if you don't send the requested amount in less

Than 10 minutes because of the fluctuations the seller could cancel your order. they use payment processors which convert the coins to fiat and sends to

The bank account of the seller. even if you paid with Paypal they would only charge back if you purchased from a verified merchant.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: mobnepal on October 06, 2017, 06:24:03 PM
Where you made those purchase? If it is in some legit platforms than you can contact their support but if not than say goodbye to your bitcoin. As bitcoin transactions are anonymous and non-reversible the one who will get it can run away without leaving any trace.

Sorry for your loss.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on October 06, 2017, 06:36:00 PM
This noob created a vague topic and then ran away.   

I have a feeling that this was created so that his alt accounts can come here and give a canned answer, ask for more details, or whatever.  Call me paranoid or over cynical,  but that's what I think.  There's no way to really answer the question unless he's specific about how he paid.  These account farmers are sly and know this, and that's why they crank out threads like this by the dozens.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: Gintama214 on October 06, 2017, 10:15:31 PM
I made a purchase, I paid in bitcoin and the person did not give me the product.
Do you have any means to recover what was paid, since you do not want to deliver the product?

You did a big mistake my friend, this is the first rule in bitcoin trading. You don't want to send or transfer bitcoin first when trading in someone you don't know or if you have no assurance that you'll get paid or you'll get what you want. There are many scammers now in online and its hard to trust anyone that you don't know. So be careful when trading with your bitcoin, you can go online and there are some sites that can verify each trade but it will cost some BTC but always be careful.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: wolfracer on October 06, 2017, 11:03:21 PM
I made a purchase, I paid in bitcoin and the person did not give me the product.
Do you have any means to recover what was paid, since you do not want to deliver the product?

No, I'm sorry friend, you screwed. Once you send a payment there's no way to reverse it. You already know for the next time, you must be very attentive about the reputation of the sellers when you are making transactions with cryptocurrencies.
There is no way back  :(


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: andthereyou on October 06, 2017, 11:39:17 PM
This noob created a vague topic and then ran away.  

I have a feeling that this was created so that his alt accounts can come here and give a canned answer, ask for more details, or whatever.  Call me paranoid or over cynical,  but that's what I think.  There's no way to really answer the question unless he's specific about how he paid.  These account farmers are sly and know this, and that's why they crank out threads like this by the dozens.

I have the same feeling too that this is an alt account.

AMDS1A if you can provide your transaction and conversation with the person you paid. That will be a big help and we can be careful of that person. However I doubt you will post it here or your other account in bitcointalk will be known to us.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: deadthings on October 09, 2017, 08:00:07 PM
I made a purchase, I paid in bitcoin and the person did not give me the product.
Do you have any means to recover what was paid, since you do not want to deliver the product?
Bitcoin purchases are not just auctions or auctions using paypal on ebay or other sites, here you have to make sure you can trust someone.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: silent17 on October 10, 2017, 01:29:01 AM
Sorry to hear that, but unfortunately, you can't bring back your money. Because bitcoin is a one-way ticket. Once the transaction has been done, you have no right on your money anymore.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: black014 on October 11, 2017, 01:26:18 PM
before you trust the strangers you should know his backround here in forum. You will be cautious of our forums because the scammers are scattered here we do not know them. it is totaly wasting your money and your time to bought the items but he never the item release.  sad to say that your money can't bringing back.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: RodeoX on October 11, 2017, 01:34:55 PM
This noob created a vague topic and then ran away.   

I have a feeling that this was created so that his alt accounts can come here and give a canned answer, ask for more details, or whatever.  Call me paranoid or over cynical,  but that's what I think.  There's no way to really answer the question unless he's specific about how he paid.  These account farmers are sly and know this, and that's why they crank out threads like this by the dozens.

I think you are right. The trolls know that their threads will get locked if discovered. It seem the new technique is to post a horror story and pretend to play an innocent victim.

This story is likely FUD BullShit.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: Ararbermas on October 11, 2017, 02:37:11 PM
I made a purchase, I paid in bitcoin and the person did not give me the product.
Do you have any means to recover what was paid, since you do not want to deliver the product?
Unfortunately you can't recover your money bro. That's the biggest mistake you've ever made on your life. you should hire a escrow for that transaction cause you dont know more about that person if it has no intention to run your money. Sorry for your lost . I suggest next time don't attempt to purchased anything without escrow cuase its not safe .


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: MFahad on October 11, 2017, 04:02:14 PM
I made a purchase, I paid in bitcoin and the person did not give me the product.
Do you have any means to recover what was paid, since you do not want to deliver the product?

You really didn't pay and were not stolen from, these are the wrong terms. You simply gave away your money, that is what has occurred. It happens all the time and will keep happening. You handed a total stranger a valued commodity and trusted them to return with a product.

The question is how long you wait on the street corner for the homeless guy to come back with your promised product. Move on, it is over and there is not a thing you can do.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: newinbtc on October 11, 2017, 04:16:41 PM
I made a purchase, I paid in bitcoin and the person did not give me the product.
Do you have any means to recover what was paid, since you do not want to deliver the product?

how much btc you lost , btc tranx are irreversible , you are new to this forum seems account recently created , if btc trans made out of forum then beaware
 you are scammed never tranx if you don't know that personally . if you want to tranx in this forum then use escrow providers to make any purchase directly from third person


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: posesion19 on October 11, 2017, 04:55:26 PM
I made a purchase, I paid in bitcoin and the person did not give me the product.
Do you have any means to recover what was paid, since you do not want to deliver the product?

Better u using a escrow for a buying product from other people , dont trust anyone.
Bitcoin its not like a paypal or credit card payment , non refundable.
Next time u must carefully about your transaction , because no refundable on bitcoin payment.  :D


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: EddyGameta on October 11, 2017, 07:10:26 PM
for now Bitcoin transaction is a 1-way transaction, unlike paypal which has Purchase Protection. you have to make sure the reputation of the seller first, if it’s too late as now maybe you can track the information of transaction as Reid said. But before let's say goodbye to the lost money brought away by the seller.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: BITDV on October 11, 2017, 08:29:12 PM
indeed, that way Bill Gates has promoted it indirectly. I am very glad there is a great character who talks about the positive side of Bitcoin in public but I think there will be parties who still pushing users or users to leave Bitcoin, because of many things.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: Phildo on October 11, 2017, 08:31:24 PM
this is a good thing for Bitcoin market growth, more people mean more demand, based on market principle then BTC price will increase. but these new people will be at risk of being easily lured by news and have weak hands.


Title: Re: I paid and I did not receive it and now?
Post by: Drixy on October 11, 2017, 11:44:32 PM
I made a purchase, I paid in bitcoin and the person did not give me the product.
Do you have any means to recover what was paid, since you do not want to deliver the product?

Better u using a escrow for a buying product from other people , dont trust anyone.
Bitcoin its not like a paypal or credit card payment , non refundable.
Next time u must carefully about your transaction , because no refundable on bitcoin payment.  :D
Indeed using  an assist of an escrow youre finaly at ease but it is hard to get in touch with others lately though being a cautious individual is a must in this kind of business to avoid such risk and scams because it is not refundable so the risk is definitely high