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Title: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: cybersofts on October 06, 2017, 10:55:28 PM
Quick Disclaimer:
1. I'm not here to support any shitcoin.
2. We're all gathered here because of bitcoin, so it's hard for me to see it fading way.

Bitcoin was designed not be fully anonymous since transactions were open permanently for the public to view.
Authorities and security agencies were able to trace the bitcoin owners based metadata and transaction pattern, history and so on.

Some developers understand this issue and they go ahead to create some new altcoins which they are fully anonymous by implementing new hashing algorithms on their very new altcoins such as Dash, Monero, Zcash and Zcoin.

So why the bitcoin "hard fork" instead of updating the original bitcoin core?
Forked coins like BitcoinCash & BitcoinGold are moving from ASICs to GPU mining for faster transactions, why not BTC?
Why not update bitcoin mining algorithm to Equihash (zk-snarks) like Zcash and the next upcoming Bitcoin Gold BTG? 

Instead of updating the original bitcoin core to have more secure and fast transactions with lower xt fee, yet making hard forks!
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
 
What do you think, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: MissionPhailed on October 06, 2017, 11:33:34 PM
Voted 'yes'. I presume Bitcoin will still be around in 10 years but probably won't be the leading coin in the world of cryptocurrencies anymore. It is getting outdated as you sort of mention in the OP and other, better performing altcoins are already emerging rapidly. BTC dominance in the total market capitalization is 49% nowadays, a huge drop compared to the 80 - 90% we've seen up until march this year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Hydrogen on October 06, 2017, 11:36:12 PM
The US economy is $20 trillion in debt. The EU was 12 trillion euros in debt at last count before the EU debt clock website (http://www.eudebtclock.org) was censored & taken offline & search engine results were scrubbed to make it difficult to find info on what current EU outstanding debt is.

People often question whether bitcoin/crypto will survive and have longevity moving into the future.

I'm not certain anyone realizes how close american and european fiat may be to imminent collapse.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Viiiii on October 06, 2017, 11:42:23 PM
The US economy is $20 trillion in debt. The EU was 12 trillion euros in debt at last count before the EU debt clock website (http://www.eudebtclock.org) was censored & taken offline & search engine results were scrubbed to make it difficult to find info on what current EU outstanding debt is.

People often question whether bitcoin/crypto will survive and have longevity moving into the future.

I'm not certain anyone realizes how close american and european fiat may be to imminent collapse.

True that, dude you should check the international dept and not only the national one...crazy numbers. Not sure if it all accurate but still impressive...http://money.visualcapitalist.com/all-of-the-worlds-money-and-markets-in-one-visualization/

I am not so sure about bitcoin, it might end up as a store of value because of the popularity.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Chasoid on October 06, 2017, 11:45:26 PM
In light of such news as this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1930805.0) and the latest bans in China. Personally, it seems more to me that regulators over the world can still find the ways to ban bitcoin. Therefore, the altcoins have more chances to survive.
"Not shure" voted.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: aoluain on October 06, 2017, 11:50:24 PM
I voted yes!
If we take the information from above, with the debt
countries are in and how fiat can collapse, what else
is there to fall back on only crypto where there is already
Quite a substantial amount of investment


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Viiiii on October 06, 2017, 11:55:23 PM
I voted yes!
If we take the information from above, with the debt
countries are in and how fiat can collapse, what else
is there to fall back on only crypto where there is already
Quite a substantial amount of investment

But is Bitcoin really stabil or substantial since only few thousand people hold the majority of coins. in any case the crypto world will profit from the current system


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: unamis76 on October 06, 2017, 11:57:23 PM
I voted yes because the question is referring forks. Bitcoin won't go down just because there are forks based on its chain. This has been done before and nothing happened to Bitcoin and still isn't happening. But we can eventually see Bitcoin go down in the next 10 years if we eventually agree to change, update and scale Bitcoin so much that we won't be able to call it Bitcoin anymore.

So why the bitcoin "hard fork" instead of updating the original bitcoin core?

Simple, because there are different perspectives regarding Bitcoin's future.

Forked coins like BitcoinCash & BitcoinGold are moving from ASICs to GPU mining for faster transactions, why not BTC?

Moving to GPU mining? That would be going backwards :D

Why not update bitcoin mining algorithm to Equihash (zk-snarks) like Zcash and the next upcoming Bitcoin Gold BTG?

Because that wouldn't be Bitcoin anymore.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Tszunami98 on October 06, 2017, 11:58:53 PM
there is a posibility for bitcoin to lose the number 1 spot into the cryptocurrency world, but will definetly be here in 10 years. Wasnt bitcoin suposed to worth 1 million dollars,maybe even more?
Bitcoin has also some sentimental value for people, and believe it or not, but this really counts!


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: hatshepsut93 on October 07, 2017, 01:14:10 AM
Quick Disclaimer:
1. I'm not here to support any shitcoin.
2. We're all gathered here because of bitcoin, so it's hard for me to see it fading way.

Bitcoin was designed not be fully anonymous since transactions were open permanently for the public to view.
Authorities and security agencies were able to trace the bitcoin owners based metadata and transaction pattern, history and so on.

Some developers understand this issue and they go ahead to create some new altcoins which they are fully anonymous by implementing new hashing algorithms on their very new altcoins such as Dash, Monero, Zcash and Zcoin.

So why the bitcoin "hard fork" instead of updating the original bitcoin core?
Forked coins like BitcoinCash & BitcoinGold are moving from ASICs to GPU mining for faster transactions, why not BTC?
Why not update bitcoin mining algorithm to Equihash (zk-snarks) like Zcash and the next upcoming Bitcoin Gold BTG? 

Instead of updating the original bitcoin core to have more secure and fast transactions with lower xt fee, yet making hard forks!
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
 
What do you think, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks :)

Bitcoin Core developers have conservative approach, they keep security and stability as their prime value and any updates only go live after long periods of discussing and testing. Any new experimental improvements to cryptocurrency protocols should and are done on altcoins, there's no need install them on Bitcoin now. If time will prove that they are sound, we might see some of them at some point at the future. But more likely Bitcoin Core developers would be adding new features as a second layer, so you won't have to risk the main network and force all users to update their clients - this is much better than having hardforks every few months like some altcoins do. So, it's unlikely that alts will ever replace BTC - people value stability in finance more than experimental innovations.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Jannn on October 07, 2017, 02:21:24 AM
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
I dont think that Bitcoin hard fork will exceed Bitcoin , Bitcoin core make more improvements and fix some issues in the Bitcoin code and i think this will be a good enough.
If Bitcoin core team change the whole Bitcoin code what will be the value of the Original Bitcoin code that created by Satoshi Nakamoto?


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: HabBear on October 07, 2017, 02:40:58 AM
These hard forks are just another stage in the growth maturity cycle of bitcoin. Bitcoin needs to be tested...each test it goes through and survives is one that gives it strength to be relevant longer.

There won't be an endless series of fork attempts, it will stop, Bitcoin and the community just needs to prove that Bitcoin is the strongest coin. AND it's ok for the currency to evolve to meet new demands.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: FIGHTERXZ on October 07, 2017, 02:47:46 AM
I have been a Bitcoin holder since early 2013 and has been a complete believer, but these recent forkings are beginning to worry me.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: yojodojo21 on October 07, 2017, 02:48:00 AM
I Voted Yes,

Bitcoin Started How Many Years Ago, But Didn't collapse or vanished.

Nowadays there are so many coins that is going out but i don't think
That after ten years bitcoin will just dissolved.

Bitcoin will always Live. new coins  will try their best. To be popular
but they cannot beat bitcoin. For Sure.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: pinkflower on October 07, 2017, 02:56:35 AM
What do you think, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks :)

Everything thats ever happening in the world of cryptocurrencies is an evolution towards a better, leaner and more efficient industry. To get there, developers should be encouraged to keep exploring and experimenting. Some of them may be scams but some could also be valuable, like Mimblewimble.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Singwala on October 07, 2017, 03:12:04 AM
I believe that the hard fork of bitcoins is the next reigning. I also agree with your words because it is more attention to hardfork. And they do not know that the bitcoins are losing the foundation. But let's see we do not know what will happen next year


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: jtipt on October 07, 2017, 03:16:33 AM
Instead of updating the original bitcoin core to have more secure and fast transactions with lower xt fee, yet making hard forks!
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
 
What do you think, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks :)
Hard forks is not a easy thing to do, to create another blockchain of btc there must be enough developers and miners behind it who are willing to support completely. So even if we see hard forks every other month, the coin created by them won't love much if it doesn't have the proper developers support like the original BTC does. Hard forks can become a obstacle in BTC's success but they can't kill it, they will die before they even scratch BTC.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: mk4 on October 07, 2017, 03:19:59 AM
I really don't see bitcoin going anywhere soon in the next 10-30 years. Bitcoin can go down in market cap but still survive. A better question is, would bitcoin still remain and claim the number 1 spot in terms of market cap in the next 10 years? Personally, I don't know. There's literally no way to say for now. But there's a decent chance that it will still be number 1.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: cpfreeplz on October 07, 2017, 03:24:31 AM
The US economy is $20 trillion in debt. The EU was 12 trillion euros in debt at last count before the EU debt clock website (http://www.eudebtclock.org) was censored & taken offline & search engine results were scrubbed to make it difficult to find info on what current EU outstanding debt is.

People often question whether bitcoin/crypto will survive and have longevity moving into the future.

I'm not certain anyone realizes how close american and european fiat may be to imminent collapse.

But if you just print more money you can pay off your debtors faster! Oh wait, except they print theirs even faster so you're screwed either way.

Bitcoins are constantly adapting, changing and upgrading. Will it always be number one? Maybe not. Something better will come out at some point. I don't think in the next 10 years bitcoins will be obsolete or worthless though.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: pawanjain on October 07, 2017, 03:26:25 AM
I won't be voting on this as I don't know what is gonna happen in future. Any predictions will solely be just on analysis and assumptions.
There is nothing to be worried about Bitcoin because it's just a crypto currency as the others. If at all Bitcoin gets faded away there will be other coins which will take it's place in the market. Crypto currency will have its dominance in the market and that is all it matters. As long as people believe in crypto currencies the dominance will be there and things will keep going on.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: GreenBits on October 07, 2017, 03:31:38 AM
Its not so much the forks as the fact that bitcoin will most likely be obsolete by then. we have already had amazing innovation with other coins; updating bitcoin to try to accomodate all the new features seems like a diversion from the original vision. the forks are doing alot to harm the brand/diminish confidence, however. the fact that these forks are essentially political just adds insult to injury.


just like we no longer use typewriters as a majority, despite how much they have improved, so will we treat bitcoin ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: jseverson on October 07, 2017, 03:35:16 AM
Quick Disclaimer:
1. I'm not here to support any shitcoin.
2. We're all gathered here because of bitcoin, so it's hard for me to see it fading way.

Bitcoin was designed not be fully anonymous since transactions were open permanently for the public to view.
Authorities and security agencies were able to trace the bitcoin owners based metadata and transaction pattern, history and so on.

Some developers understand this issue and they go ahead to create some new altcoins which they are fully anonymous by implementing new hashing algorithms on their very new altcoins such as Dash, Monero, Zcash and Zcoin.

So why the bitcoin "hard fork" instead of updating the original bitcoin core?
Forked coins like BitcoinCash & BitcoinGold are moving from ASICs to GPU mining for faster transactions, why not BTC?
Why not update bitcoin mining algorithm to Equihash (zk-snarks) like Zcash and the next upcoming Bitcoin Gold BTG? 

Instead of updating the original bitcoin core to have more secure and fast transactions with lower xt fee, yet making hard forks!
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
 
What do you think, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks :)

Excellent points. I quite agree that Bitcoin, as far as technology goes, is being left behind. It is the first of its kind after all, and it wouldn't make sense for other newer cyrptocurrencies which were basically cloned to some extent from Bitcoins, to follow it to the letter.

I think, however, that if anything can kill Bitcoins, it would be these countries' official cryptocurrencies. You might think, 'eh, they're centralized, etc. etc.', but I don't think majority of the population cares about that. If they did, everyone would be abandoning fiat, and everyone would be all over Bitcoins. These altcoins are going to be state sponsored, with the same state being capable of creating policies that can de-incentivize people from using other cryptocurrencies. We're still far far away from that though. I don't know what the landscape will look like in 10 years, but I simply don't see Bitcoins being dethroned in the foreseeable future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Nahl on October 07, 2017, 03:40:43 AM
i would not vote because possible the answers yes but possible too not and nobody could predict the future of bitcoin indeed since first time to launch most people don't too concern for bitcoin and underestimate them but bitcoin has proven able to grow even the price raise more than 1000% if we compare the price at 2009 but there is something distrubing me for bitcoin that government still consider bitcoin as the tool for negative things and some people also still consider bitcoin is bad


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: syntac on October 07, 2017, 03:41:44 AM
I agree with your statement, bitcoin will not last 10 years. Bitcoin currently has a competitor who is getting more and more always fixing his shortcomings. If Bitcoin does not take immediate steps to improve its features it is likely that in the next 10 years it will lose competitiveness with others.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: ipanks on October 07, 2017, 03:43:38 AM
i vote yes, bitcoin will live to see next 10 years. i am not bitcoin expert which know the details of bitcoin and maybe for me is like this. with all of the hard fork, bitcoin starting a new evolution to be better than yesterday. and with all fork is happen, bitcoin is trying to make a new innovation but unfortunately there is one vote from each of bitcoin dev (bitcoin core, bitcoin cash, or even bitcoin gold). each of them have different opinion that bitcoin bla bla bla. we've still in each community under each "bitcoin" name but we don't united in one named "bitcoin". if in future, there is any fork happen and there will be another new "bitcoin" is out then its make a new community, then how bitcoin become stronger from the community if each of community is not united.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: kpcian on October 07, 2017, 04:12:12 AM
I believe that Bitcoin will long last after 10 years, you have to consider it that day by day technology has been changed all short of transaction method, in the future, the Fiat money will be replaced by the digital money, already digital money along with cryptocurrency has been popular in the developed countries. so it can be assumed that Bitcoin will last for a long time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: CryptoBry on October 07, 2017, 04:23:13 AM
Voted 'yes'. I presume Bitcoin will still be around in 10 years but probably won't be the leading coin in the world of cryptocurrencies anymore. It is getting outdated as you sort of mention in the OP and other, better performing altcoins are already emerging rapidly. BTC dominance in the total market capitalization is 49% nowadays, a huge drop compared to the 80 - 90% we've seen up until march this year.

I also voted yes because hard forks will not actually be happening every year...we just have to get past 2017 and by next year we do expect Bitcoin to be really back for more growth specially that there can be new markets to be opened and more demand can be expected. Plus all of those new coins out of the hard fork are just altcoins no matter how they claimed they are not. Bitcoin is a very resilient coin as shown by its being strong in the face of China rejection.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: DoublerHunter on October 07, 2017, 04:26:09 AM
These forks are just part of bitcoin and i think it is just an opportunity that is given by the developers to earn more money using bitcoin and to encourage people to hold because when there is a fork then there is another coin created that is different from the original by its name and some sort of features but it is completely free and you can earn profit by getting those free coins because after the fork is done, they are officially priced already.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Sithara007 on October 07, 2017, 04:31:49 AM
It will be quite difficult for Bitcoin. The main issue is that the block size is not capable of accommodating the growth in the user base. Even if the block size is increased to 2 MB, how long do you guys think it is going to last? After 4-5 months the cycle will repeat again. High fees, delayed transactions, angry users and more and more FUD.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Herbert2020 on October 07, 2017, 04:34:34 AM
So why the bitcoin "hard fork" instead of updating the original bitcoin core?
it is called bitcoin not bitcoin core. core is a client.

and forks happen because majority want bitcoin like what it is right now. not any other way, like having a different mining algorithm.

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Forked coins like BitcoinCash & BitcoinGold are moving from ASICs to GPU mining for faster transactions, why not BTC?
do you have a reference for BCH moving to GPU mining?

why? because you will have to keep forking the coin each time pools shape up and people start pooling their GPU and create farms to mine bitcoin. ASIC resistance is a myth.

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Why not update bitcoin mining algorithm to Equihash (zk-snarks) like Zcash and the next upcoming Bitcoin Gold BTG? 
if you want a different thing then use a different thing. that is why they exist anyways.

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I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
why?
for years people have been forking from bitcoin, creating an altcoin and dying after a while. the only difference is now they are also giving away airdrops.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: nareshrohra on October 07, 2017, 04:40:49 AM
As bitcoin is not anonymous as you rightly pointed. Government agencies will support it compared to other anonymous altcoins. So, people who are concerned about regulations will prefer bitcoin over anonymous coins. So, I guess bitcoin will not go away that easy unless it faces technical challenges


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Drixy on October 07, 2017, 04:44:40 AM
Well you dont know that now And whos youre source? Lol we dont have a concrete evidence if bitcoin will live up to next 10 or a max of 10 years but hoping that will bitcoin will overcome after 8 years or so hoping that it will be more long lasting to not cut ties with all of us depending only on bitcoin so many jobs that have been developed sucessfully we dont want to erase this incredible experience right? Mate? We want to earn more and almost live only on an easy life and financial probelm free getting the idea of earning on only mobile using is so great to have


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: centralbanksequalsbombs on October 07, 2017, 04:47:20 AM
LOL hahahaa.

Why are all these equihash / ethereum / etc algorithm coins not valued more than bitcoin? Why isn't the whole world transacting on these scamcoins that do everything cheaper, anonymous, and "faster"? LOL AHHAHA. maybe because they're more centralized? less secure? less scarce? not open-source? stuck to one/two countries? premined? networks where you can easily spam transactions? not immutable? weak to forks? scam start with ICO? hackable difficulty? There have been hundreds/thousands of altcoins for many years. Bitcoin has been around for eight years.

Though it is still very early adoption by the world population (most people everywhere don't know what it is)...
Bitcoin (the King) has freed, continuing to free, and tomorrow will still free many people globally from the centrally controlled debt-based fiat system that confiscates your wealth with inflation and tax. Bitcoin is a TRUE savings vehicle. Buying Real Estate, Hospital healthcare, Global traveling, College Education gets cheaper as you hold Bitcoin.

And it has become clear that...
Bitcoin CANNOT be controlled.

Bitcoin cannot be made legal. Governments may still attempt to do so.

Bitcoin cannot be made illegal. Governments may still attempt to do so.


Central banks already control and manipulate Stocks, Real Estate, Gold, Interest Rates. Central banks will never have such domination of Bitcoin.

Bitcoin reached escape velocity 4-years ago in 2013 which means it cannot be stopped - cannot make it illegal or legal - governments/banks do not matter.

On the opposite end of the spectrum the global fiat (US Dollars, Indian Rupees, Chinese Yuan, etc) bubble system broke a couple of decades ago.

Fiat around the world is forced to inflate issuance as its heavily infested, burdened and broken with:
-regulatory burden on fiat banks & system (incredibly costly)
-unemployment & other welfare costs
-inflating fiat to keep stock market rising and to keep house-prices from collapsing
-financing conflicts, bombs, and "aid"
-insurance fraud
-false claims and insurance loss-events
-stabilize regions after natural disasters
-keeping monopolies with internet access centralized and search engine crawlers centralized
-money laundering
-chargebacks
-frivolous legal costs (lawsuits bogging the system down)
-state-sponsored corruption and unofficial corruption (governments and gangs, banks and conartists)
-retirement obligations (debasement in value to keep up with payments from government or other retirement-obligations)
-fake credit (goods being transacted with credit-loss, replaced by inflation of monetary base rather than bringing perpetrators & source to justice)
-using enforcement labor to freeze accounts and assets and take away your money
-costs of auditors and budgetors and accountants to governments and businesses

Bitcoin, systemically, is free from these burdens.

Bitcoin is GLOBALLY held and sought after by people in almost every country - see global trade data by country or see this list:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1853019.0

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE STOP BLOWING BUBBLES OF EXTRA FIAT MONEY AROUND THE WORLD? (PLEASE NO MORE USD, EUROS, JAPANESE YENS, INDIAN RUPEES, CHINESE YUAN, MEXICAN PESOS - PLEASE STOP INFLATING AND MAKING BITCOIN SO VALUABLE)...stop this pumping
https://macromon.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/global-monetary-base.png?w=640
https://macromon.wordpress.com/2017/04/26/the-chart-that-floats-overvaluation/ (https://macromon.wordpress.com/2017/04/26/the-chart-that-floats-overvaluation/)


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: leonix007 on October 07, 2017, 05:51:51 AM
Quick Disclaimer:
1. I'm not here to support any shitcoin.
2. We're all gathered here because of bitcoin, so it's hard for me to see it fading way.

Bitcoin was designed not be fully anonymous since transactions were open permanently for the public to view.
Authorities and security agencies were able to trace the bitcoin owners based metadata and transaction pattern, history and so on.

Some developers understand this issue and they go ahead to create some new altcoins which they are fully anonymous by implementing new hashing algorithms on their very new altcoins such as Dash, Monero, Zcash and Zcoin.

So why the bitcoin "hard fork" instead of updating the original bitcoin core?

Proponents for the forks wanted Bitcoin to have lesser transaction fees and faster confirmations by doubling the block size, thus, compromising other aspects such as resources since the block will be doubled, running a full node requirements will also increase and ordinary users cannot cope up thus big companies will be in advantage to it and will consider it as not a Decentralized already.

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Forked coins like BitcoinCash & BitcoinGold are moving from ASICs to GPU mining for faster transactions, why not BTC?

this will not happen, it does not changed algo, still it is in ASIC.

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Why not update bitcoin mining algorithm to Equihash (zk-snarks) like Zcash and the next upcoming Bitcoin Gold BTG?  

Bitcoin is not an Altcoin

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Instead of updating the original bitcoin core to have more secure and fast transactions with lower xt fee, yet making hard forks!
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
 
What do you think, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks :)

Already stated above my reasons.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Rahar02 on October 07, 2017, 06:21:39 AM
Yes, I'm sure bitcoin will be here for the next 10 years.
Bitcoin isn't anonymous but it can be, in some ways to make it happen.
Why bitcoin hard fork and create another altcoin after Bcash? Bitcoin core developers don't want to hard fork and increase blocksize.
This problem about blocksize has been discussed since few years ago https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Block_size_limit_controversy
We have bitcoin segwit right now, as long as transaction could be confirmed within 10 minutes or less than an hour, it will be fine without increase blocksize.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: bob123 on October 07, 2017, 06:33:44 AM
Bitcoin will still b here in 10 years.
The Simple reason Bitcoin Core is not making 100 changes is because its just not necessary.
Bitcoin never was intended to be Anonymous.
A ledger with Pseudonym is what Bitcoin needs.
Same reason for not changing mining Algorithm.
It would be senseless. Look at the beautiful coins which dd "everything better than BTC".
They Stück at around 200-300$. Compared to BTC thats pretty low..


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Snaic on October 07, 2017, 06:34:56 AM
If Bitcoin is updated not only to expand the bandwidth of transactions, but to solve some of its vulnerabilities, it will live a very long time. However, if this does not happen, then it will become obsolete, lose its support and go into the background of more successful crypto-currencies.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Pursuer on October 07, 2017, 06:53:36 AM
bitcoin living to see next 10 years or not has nothing to do with the things you said. at least these are not that big an issue to have any effect on bitcoin's future.

and you know what, you can change all the things you said here such as how mining works. but change has to be needed first then it has to gain enough support to be able to be accepted by all the network. so far there is no need to change mining. you are just caught up in the hype of the mining with GPU and think if it is changed everything will be happy. but you are wrong.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Soros Shorts on October 07, 2017, 07:01:06 AM
I'm not certain anyone realizes how close american and european fiat may be to imminent collapse.

Reserve currencies like the USD or EUR are not likely to collapse. They would just devalue over time but people would still continue to use them. Some smart savers would move their cash assets over to Bitcoin and cryptos, but people who live from paycheck to paycheck would stick to fiat.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: baedrill on October 07, 2017, 07:22:07 AM
I don't think hard forks will ever be a threat. They're improved Bitcoins, to a degree, but being premined hurts them. Other altcoins are more of a threat, but I don't think the one that will eventually topple Bitcoins has been born yet. Ethereum can come close, but it has several issues of its own.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: PalindromemordnilaP on October 07, 2017, 07:26:55 AM
Quick Disclaimer:
1. I'm not here to support any shitcoin.
2. We're all gathered here because of bitcoin, so it's hard for me to see it fading way.

Bitcoin was designed not be fully anonymous since transactions were open permanently for the public to view.
Authorities and security agencies were able to trace the bitcoin owners based metadata and transaction pattern, history and so on.

Some developers understand this issue and they go ahead to create some new altcoins which they are fully anonymous by implementing new hashing algorithms on their very new altcoins such as Dash, Monero, Zcash and Zcoin.

So why the bitcoin "hard fork" instead of updating the original bitcoin core?
Forked coins like BitcoinCash & BitcoinGold are moving from ASICs to GPU mining for faster transactions, why not BTC?
Why not update bitcoin mining algorithm to Equihash (zk-snarks) like Zcash and the next upcoming Bitcoin Gold BTG? 

Instead of updating the original bitcoin core to have more secure and fast transactions with lower xt fee, yet making hard forks!
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
 
What do you think, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks :)

I agree with this because despite the hard forks the mother of all cryptocurrency has encountered, it will always survive and will always will. I can't see it gone in the next 10 years but i see its value to balloon over a million each.

We may all gone but this long term cryptocurrency remains.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: mostkey on October 07, 2017, 07:28:36 AM
I don't think hard forks will ever be a threat. They're improved Bitcoins, to a degree, but being premined hurts them. Other altcoins are more of a threat, but I don't think the one that will eventually topple Bitcoins has been born yet. Ethereum can come close, but it has several issues of its own.
a hard fork that was supposed to be a threat to bitcoin users, is turning into an advantage. for example that happened in august, hard fork that makes bitcoin split in two, this even become the advantage of some parties, so I think only altcoin trigger the threat, because coin that is broke


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Usui-Chan on October 07, 2017, 07:30:44 AM
With the current trend of bitcoin's price, I don't think it would not live to see 10 or 15 years. It has been here since then with low prices, why would it seize to exist now


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: chimcoin on October 07, 2017, 07:32:46 AM
Hard forks will only strife but i think Bicoin will remain even beyond 10yrs.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Ayiranorea on October 07, 2017, 06:19:53 PM
I don't think hard forks will ever be a threat. They're improved Bitcoins, to a degree, but being premined hurts them. Other altcoins are more of a threat, but I don't think the one that will eventually topple Bitcoins has been born yet. Ethereum can come close, but it has several issues of its own.
a hard fork that was supposed to be a threat to bitcoin users, is turning into an advantage. for example that happened in august, hard fork that makes bitcoin split in two, this even become the advantage of some parties, so I think only altcoin trigger the threat, because coin that is broke
Hard fork has been considered as a threat when it happened months back. Soon after this the growth started to progress in a large scale and the same could happen in the upcoming fork. So people who has the plans of investing into bitcoin its good to have patience and till the fork, the price might get dumped and will grow in a short.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: darkangel11 on October 07, 2017, 07:12:32 PM
With the current trend of bitcoin's price, I don't think it would not live to see 10 or 15 years. It has been here since then with low prices, why would it seize to exist now
Price doesn't say much about the real value and longevity of a product. For example a dollar used to have much greater value than now. It's been losing value due to inflation for over 100 years and it's still here, being used by people. Why could it disappear? One of the reasons would be lack of consensus between its users that would cause a 50/50 fork splitting the community in half. We'd have 2 coins and each of them would have half of the value before the split. This could allow a popular altcoin to beat it in value and market cap.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Kronos21 on October 07, 2017, 07:21:01 PM
I don't think hard forks will ever be a threat. They're improved Bitcoins, to a degree, but being premined hurts them. Other altcoins are more of a threat, but I don't think the one that will eventually topple Bitcoins has been born yet. Ethereum can come close, but it has several issues of its own.
a hard fork that was supposed to be a threat to bitcoin users, is turning into an advantage. for example that happened in august, hard fork that makes bitcoin split in two, this even become the advantage of some parties, so I think only altcoin trigger the threat, because coin that is broke
Hard fork has been considered as a threat when it happened months back. Soon after this the growth started to progress in a large scale and the same could happen in the upcoming fork. So people who has the plans of investing into bitcoin its good to have patience and till the fork, the price might get dumped and will grow in a short.
By nature I am a conservative. I don't like change. Why change something that is good? I am surprised by the position of those who rejoice fork. You do not understand the fact that every fork is bad. Who would trust a currency that has constantly divided and unpredictable price? Even if the price of bitcoin will grow after the fork it will be a blow to the image. With this approach, today you will earn 1 dollar and tomorrow will lose $ 5.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: equator on October 07, 2017, 07:33:56 PM
Even if their is hardfork it is not affecting Bitcoin because each hardfork is created a new altcoin is born and every one is getting freely to use and earn free bitcoin by selling it. Still bitcoin is used which is original and even altcoins are also not able take over Bitcoin because all altcoin are handled by developer and bitcoin is free to use.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Mahanton on October 07, 2017, 07:46:36 PM
Even if their is hardfork it is not affecting Bitcoin because each hardfork is created a new altcoin is born and every one is getting freely to use and earn free bitcoin by selling it. Still bitcoin is used which is original and even altcoins are also not able take over Bitcoin because all altcoin are handled by developer and bitcoin is free to use.
You are right now matter how many forks would happen into bitcoin it cant really change the reality that people would really love to earn bitcoin than on those altcoin being created by that fork. They would still end up on selling those coins just to earn bitcoin same as you said which means interest and loyalty of people to bitcoin is high and irreplaceable.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: the rise on October 07, 2017, 07:49:27 PM
10 years ago I never even dreamed of appearing bitcoin phenomenally and convincingly, we never know what will happen because there will always be the latest innovation from complex crypto algorithm. Digital currency trends will be very familiar for the next 10 years and bitcoin will get a serious challenge from e-money (Fiat). I can think that way because the government has started preparing the system seriously, for example japanese who issued J-coin for long-term projects.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Tyrantt on October 07, 2017, 08:10:41 PM
Voted 'yes'. I presume Bitcoin will still be around in 10 years but probably won't be the leading coin in the world of cryptocurrencies anymore. It is getting outdated as you sort of mention in the OP and other, better performing altcoins are already emerging rapidly. BTC dominance in the total market capitalization is 49% nowadays, a huge drop compared to the 80 - 90% we've seen up until march this year.

I see it like this. Bitcoin will remain, overall, the most popular crypto but there will be alts created specifically for that business. Like that facebook tokens or steam money, all that could be replaced with an alt-coin. So bitcoin global, alts tweaked for smaller circles. Also, I don't think bitcoin will die out so easily if there's still more to mine.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: FasTroy on October 07, 2017, 08:13:15 PM
Even if their is hardfork it is not affecting Bitcoin because each hardfork is created a new altcoin is born and every one is getting freely to use and earn free bitcoin by selling it. Still bitcoin is used which is original and even altcoins are also not able take over Bitcoin because all altcoin are handled by developer and bitcoin is free to use.
You are right now matter how many forks would happen into bitcoin it cant really change the reality that people would really love to earn bitcoin than on those altcoin being created by that fork. They would still end up on selling those coins just to earn bitcoin same as you said which means interest and loyalty of people to bitcoin is high and irreplaceable.
Yes, I totally agree with you, hard forks are not a problems at all, because bitcoin is too powerful and people don't let the original cryptocurrency and go for the new one, They trust and believe on orignal bitcoin, So even the Bitcoin cash or Bitcoin gold that will relased in 25th october, I don't think that there is no problem at all for this hard fork, maybe there is some side effects to bitcoin price, but when we talk about the durability of this coins, there isn't no effect.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: MostafaGamal on October 07, 2017, 08:16:56 PM
yes i think the bitcoin will hold , because big investor support it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: CisColtz on October 07, 2017, 08:17:08 PM
maybe you are right and bitcoin will not see the next 10 years but for sure the blockchain technology will be there in 10 years.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: btcdevil on October 07, 2017, 08:45:14 PM
maybe you are right and bitcoin will not see the next 10 years but for sure the blockchain technology will be there in 10 years.

I think both will be their but blockchain technology will take over the fiat currency world and bitcoin value will also increase as they are widely used cryptocoin by most users


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Ucy on October 07, 2017, 08:54:00 PM
So why the bitcoin "hard fork" instead of updating the original bitcoin core?
Forked coins like BitcoinCash & BitcoinGold are moving from ASICs to GPU mining for faster transactions, why not BTC? Why not update bitcoin mining algorithm to Equihash (zk-snarks) like Zcash and the next upcoming Bitcoin Gold BTG?"



Is moving from ASICs to GPU even possible? If yes, why on earth are ASICs even allowed to flourish. I always thought that graduation to mining with ASICs was just due to difficulty issue and is bound to happen to any crypto.
Wouldn't this lead to Centralization or was the whole thing done deliberately?
Man,the crypto World is becoming too weird these days


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: zeze18 on October 07, 2017, 09:10:57 PM
maybe you are right and bitcoin will not see the next 10 years but for sure the blockchain technology will be there in 10 years.

I think both will be their but blockchain technology will take over the fiat currency world and bitcoin value will also increase as they are widely used cryptocoin by most users


I think bitcoin will not be able to replace the fiat money function completely, because some fiat money functions are needed in transaction payment, and not all payment transactions can be overcome with bitcoin, but i believe for the next 10 year bitcoins will grow and will be much in use either as a payment transaction or for business transactions.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Aikidoka on October 07, 2017, 09:17:15 PM
It is quite impressive to see 81.6% of people voted "Yes". People are being optimistic about bitcoin. Well, I cannot blame them. I, myself, voted "Yes". Although bitcoin is facing many hardships, it is going to stand and live more than 10 years. There are people who said it would be outdated, but let us agree that it is making a strong success at the moment and I strongly believe that it will make a good progress in the future. It is just a matter of time. Every problem has a solution and every an unsolved problem has a flaw or a weakness. In the end, smart people will not let go of bitcoin that easily.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: nidacoinlove on October 07, 2017, 09:21:51 PM
Voted 'yes'. I presume Bitcoin will still be around in 10 years but probably won't be the leading coin in the world of cryptocurrencies anymore. It is getting outdated as you sort of mention in the OP and other, better performing altcoins are already emerging rapidly. BTC dominance in the total market capitalization is 49% nowadays, a huge drop compared to the 80 - 90% we've seen up until march this year.
Well the percentage of the bitcoin in market capitalization has reduced due to few reasons. It doesn't mean that bitcoin is going down if it was going down then the price must have decreased. Price of bitcoin is increasing which mean that people still like it and demand for it. The number of alts has increased which shows the percentage of bitcoin as a reduced one but the truth is that bitcoin is still on top.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: haroldtee on October 07, 2017, 09:40:44 PM
IMF super woman said something yesterday. She said bitcoin is going to give fiats and monetary policies a run. Technology advances daily and people, most especially in top positions are beginning to understand that bitcoin is the future and can't be stopped.

So, will bitcoin live to see the next 10 years. Oh Yes!


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: leonair on October 07, 2017, 09:50:26 PM
Quick Disclaimer:
1. I'm not here to support any shitcoin.
2. We're all gathered here because of bitcoin, so it's hard for me to see it fading way.

Bitcoin was designed not be fully anonymous since transactions were open permanently for the public to view.
Authorities and security agencies were able to trace the bitcoin owners based metadata and transaction pattern, history and so on.

Some developers understand this issue and they go ahead to create some new altcoins which they are fully anonymous by implementing new hashing algorithms on their very new altcoins such as Dash, Monero, Zcash and Zcoin.

So why the bitcoin "hard fork" instead of updating the original bitcoin core?
Forked coins like BitcoinCash & BitcoinGold are moving from ASICs to GPU mining for faster transactions, why not BTC?
Why not update bitcoin mining algorithm to Equihash (zk-snarks) like Zcash and the next upcoming Bitcoin Gold BTG? 

Instead of updating the original bitcoin core to have more secure and fast transactions with lower xt fee, yet making hard forks!
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
 
What do you think, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks :)

I am not a techy guy but my own understanding in this situations of forks is positive because Bitcoin developers are doing this kind of thing for the better good of the future of Bitcoin itself, take this forks as an upgrading thing and not a negative thing. No one wants a fork but there is always a possibility of a fork when upgrading the scale-ability of Bitcoin, change is inevitable.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: bncbnc on October 07, 2017, 09:54:50 PM
Voted 'yes'. I presume Bitcoin will still be around in 10 years but probably won't be the leading coin in the world of cryptocurrencies anymore. It is getting outdated as you sort of mention in the OP and other, better performing altcoins are already emerging rapidly. BTC dominance in the total market capitalization is 49% nowadays, a huge drop compared to the 80 - 90% we've seen up until march this year.

I see it like this. Bitcoin will remain, overall, the most popular crypto but there will be alts created specifically for that business. Like that facebook tokens or steam money, all that could be replaced with an alt-coin. So bitcoin global, alts tweaked for smaller circles. Also, I don't think bitcoin will die out so easily if there's still more to mine.
alts are created even in present time. but still there is still not such an altternative currency which can replace bitcoin. i am also sure that bitcoin will remain as number one currency for a long long time and not a single alternative currency can replace bitcoin. In fact the users of bitcoin are increasing from time to time which is making bitcoin more stronger.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: MoonHodler on October 07, 2017, 10:12:05 PM
Bitcoin changed the definition of currency, since its decentralized it can be improved


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: xBitHodler on October 07, 2017, 10:23:17 PM
I would say that Bitcoin is going to survive for the next 10 years. Our community is still working hard on it. There are many Bitcoin Improvement Proposals (BIPs) that may not be accepted by everyone but at least many different people are trying to contribute to this superb project. Hardforks won't damage Bitcoin's reputation. They will make it stronger.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: bitcoinvestor on October 07, 2017, 10:42:17 PM
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
I dont think that Bitcoin hard fork will exceed Bitcoin , Bitcoin core make more improvements and fix some issues in the Bitcoin code and i think this will be a good enough.
If Bitcoin core team change the whole Bitcoin code what will be the value of the Original Bitcoin code that created by Satoshi Nakamoto?
I am not technical man but seeing the case of BCH hardfork, the next hardfork seems no much influence or panic state to developers, miners and users. theymos will guide us how to do with the next hardfork, he will write technical steps and analysis to face the hardfork. I am not worried about that. What I am worried is when all government ban bitcoin exchangers to fiat.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: dlhezter on October 07, 2017, 10:48:59 PM
Quick Disclaimer:
1. I'm not here to support any shitcoin.
2. We're all gathered here because of bitcoin, so it's hard for me to see it fading way.

Bitcoin was designed not be fully anonymous since transactions were open permanently for the public to view.
Authorities and security agencies were able to trace the bitcoin owners based metadata and transaction pattern, history and so on.

Some developers understand this issue and they go ahead to create some new altcoins which they are fully anonymous by implementing new hashing algorithms on their very new altcoins such as Dash, Monero, Zcash and Zcoin.

So why the bitcoin "hard fork" instead of updating the original bitcoin core?
Forked coins like BitcoinCash & BitcoinGold are moving from ASICs to GPU mining for faster transactions, why not BTC?
Why not update bitcoin mining algorithm to Equihash (zk-snarks) like Zcash and the next upcoming Bitcoin Gold BTG? 

Instead of updating the original bitcoin core to have more secure and fast transactions with lower xt fee, yet making hard forks!
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
 
What do you think, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks :)

Bitcoin Core developers have conservative approach, they keep security and stability as their prime value and any updates only go live after long periods of discussing and testing. Any new experimental improvements to cryptocurrency protocols should and are done on altcoins, there's no need install them on Bitcoin now. If time will prove that they are sound, we might see some of them at some point at the future. But more likely Bitcoin Core developers would be adding new features as a second layer, so you won't have to risk the main network and force all users to update their clients - this is much better than having hardforks every few months like some altcoins do. So, it's unlikely that alts will ever replace BTC - people value stability in finance more than experimental innovations.

oh, you mean instead of updating/upgrading the original, they make another program like bitcoin for the other experimental purposes and DEV (bitcoin team) wont take the risk to make updates/upgrades the network on the original bitcoin. i get it now. so BTC and BTG are the latest bitcoin experimenta?


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Victorycoin on October 07, 2017, 11:16:44 PM
These hard forks are just another stage in the growth maturity cycle of bitcoin. Bitcoin needs to be tested...each test it goes through and survives is one that gives it strength to be relevant longer.

There won't be an endless series of fork attempts, it will stop, Bitcoin and the community just needs to prove that Bitcoin is the strongest coin. AND it's ok for the currency to evolve to meet new demands.
I quite agree with your take, the Bitcoin we see today is far more resolute and resilient than the Bitcoin we knew couple of years back. It has actually been through a lot and the fact, it came out of it all more formidable have endeared it to many.

And yes, an end to hard fork of the network is not in sight, many more will happen, but what's good news is that Bitcoin core is unwilling to shift its grounds and it will always remain the one and only Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: ImHash on October 07, 2017, 11:19:00 PM
I think we should go POS period :D GPU mining is not good, right now anyone with the most hash rate is mining most of the coins anyways, in POS the same people with most of the coins earn more. in 10 years electricity consumption will overwhelm China which has the cheapest prices for electricity.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: djangocoin on October 08, 2017, 12:29:59 AM
Voted: yes

The last hardfork happened and people were like this is it for bitcoin, and what did bitcoin do? it went up in price.

Moral of the story is: Bitcoin doesn't care


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Bitmore on October 08, 2017, 01:12:50 AM
Voted: yes

The last hardfork happened and people were like this is it for bitcoin, and what did bitcoin do? it went up in price.

Moral of the story is: Bitcoin doesn't care

Bitcoin is a Honeybadger; 

You can FUD, cry and panic,,but it doesn't matter.

Bitcoin just doesn't give a fuck.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Ziomuro27 on October 08, 2017, 02:10:29 AM
I'm not sure if bitcoin will last but of course I want to stay it forever not because I wanted it to be but it helps people in changing their life and their personality. I imagine my self in 10 years and l'm stay using bitcoin, I have big house , new car and a better life which I attain using bitcoin, there is no limit on dreaming if you have a dream make it possible and live with it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Viscera on October 08, 2017, 02:22:33 AM
Bitcoin is superior, and it's like a honey there's no expiration date. Other countries will adopt bitcoin and the price will go up eventually. This is the new Supremacy technology. How many times the government shut down Bitcoin? No one will ever kill bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Sithara007 on October 08, 2017, 02:33:47 AM
Bitcoin is superior, and it's like a honey there's no expiration date. Other countries will adopt bitcoin and the price will go up eventually. This is the new Supremacy technology. How many times the government shut down Bitcoin? No one will ever kill bitcoin.

You can't say that Bitcoin has no expiry date. Any technology-related asset has an expiration date, although it is difficult to exactly predict when it will go out of business. The same is the case with Bitcoin as well. There is a chance that in the future it may lose the race to some of the altcoins or clones, or there is even a chance that a far better technology will replace the crypto-currency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Dalmar on October 08, 2017, 02:39:04 AM
Bitcoin is kinda like online contract version of gold if we talk about supply/price over time.Bitcoin price is going up because buyers "purchase" it on exchanges and circle gonna to be more smaller for this coin.That's why predictions are so unreal and optimistic on other threads.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: pathapoddo on October 08, 2017, 02:45:14 AM
Yes.I think I will see bitcoin the next 10years.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: heisenberg0000 on October 08, 2017, 03:17:05 AM
Yes, as we can see in this fast changing world. Innovation is the key for businesses to survive. With bitcoin, multiple opprtunities arises. The only key here for longevity is for big companies to start adapting bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: dificanovi on October 08, 2017, 05:59:26 AM
I do not think bitcoin will disappear while the internet can still be accessed. they prefer another coin because they want to profit from the coin. BTC will not be destroyed despite the creation of a hard fork.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: maydna on October 08, 2017, 11:43:21 AM
i think its not about expiration date but its maybe for fixing bitcoin into better than before. because i am sure that there should be any of the fork again once in every few month like before and we know that this will happen again and again. i think bitcoin will stay more than 10 years because if we see the ages of bitcoin is almost 10 years from its beginning. and until now, bitcoin is always doing maintenance which is fork and another things to make sure bitcoin is ready to grow more than now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Cobalt9317 on October 08, 2017, 11:51:55 AM
Bitcoin will not vanished it will not disappear, apparently some Altcoins are better than Bitcoin, however it is still the leading coins in the market in terms of using its flexibility and adaptation.

it could and may not ceased to exist after 10 years, but one thing is for sure Bitcoin will stay


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: pixie85 on October 08, 2017, 08:21:10 PM
Voted: yes

The last hardfork happened and people were like this is it for bitcoin, and what did bitcoin do? it went up in price.

Moral of the story is: Bitcoin doesn't care

The honey badger of investments :D

Bitcoin is kinda like online contract version of gold if we talk about supply/price over time.Bitcoin price is going up because buyers "purchase" it on exchanges and circle gonna to be more smaller for this coin.That's why predictions are so unreal and optimistic on other threads.
It's better than gold because it's finite. You never know when we find a way to excavate gold more efficiently or find a way to recover it from old electronics. Gold can be found on another planet or an asteroid that hits us somewhere in future. Bitcoin is limited and we know how much of it there's going to be.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: 01asd on October 08, 2017, 08:46:33 PM
Voted: yes
The last hardfork happened and people were like this is it for bitcoin, and what did bitcoin do? it went up in price. Moral of the story is: Bitcoin doesn't care

But what will happen before the 10 years ? Do you think the price will go high ? Or the the price will go down before the Bitcoin disappear ? I want to see Bitcoin in the next 10 years. But there is not much we can do if this will happen. I decided to invest half of my money each month, do you think it's wise ? Because I don't know if the price will go down or not.

If Bitcoin will go down in the next 10 years ? Then I invest to Bitcoin today, what will happen in the next 5 years ? Do you think we still get profit ?


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: FJNuñez on October 08, 2017, 08:54:36 PM
This may very well be true. How many big companies have come and gone in history. Bitcoin is not exception. If something better comes along, it will naturally overtake BTC.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: darthmaul on October 12, 2017, 12:31:33 PM

I'm pretty sure there must be valid reason as why the bitcoin is not being shifted to gpu mining. This could be related to hashing power of the gpu and the block length of the transaction which is needed to be solved. The correlation could save such that gpu might not be capable of doing that load. That's why they are updating the ASIC miner instead, so that it could get easier to transact for us. But with the upgraded hardware comes the cost which is also incurred on us in the form of fees. So this is kind of descriptive why they wouldn't just upgrade the bitcoin to mine more easily and free of charges. It's all about money I believe.



Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: mahibul49 on October 12, 2017, 12:59:31 PM
i voted !!yes!
i think bitcoin era just started and long way to go.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: ubay on October 12, 2017, 01:00:07 PM
Not a single coin can beat bitcoin, because he is the first one and the uniqueness of bitcoin is not in other coin coins. Trust me bitcoin will continue to be known to many people, just like the first time the internet was found.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Prodigan786 on October 12, 2017, 01:05:51 PM
Bitcoin will be live even after the century but it may come up with lots of regulation in different countries may it would be illegal in some country because in mean time each country will be having own crypto currency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: kafeelniazi on October 12, 2017, 01:30:05 PM
This may very well be true. How many big companies have come and gone in history. Bitcoin is not exception. If something better comes along, it will naturally overtake BTC.
what kind of better thing you expect? bitcoin took lot of time to make this reputation, the reason behind this reputation is because at that time bitcoin don't have any competitors so that is why bitcoin gain the interest of people. so if any kind of "better" thing emerges they have to face the hard competition against bitcoin and offcourse bitcoin will win.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: kingjofri on October 12, 2017, 01:36:12 PM
Sorry, but i beg to disagree. I recon, people are trying to improve our means of living whether it is simple task to how complex it is. Even to the extent of how they are revolutionizing the food that we eat. And one step of how to improve our means of living is thru digital currency.  One good example of it is in Swiss where one city is implementing it. If people learn to embrace and take this on seriously i think this can be the future of the world currency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: beatleap on October 12, 2017, 01:38:39 PM
Voted: yes

The last hardfork happened and people were like this is it for bitcoin, and what did bitcoin do? it went up in price.

Moral of the story is: Bitcoin doesn't care

That's some bad thinking there and i hope you didnt invest because it survived the last fork each fork is different and does different things this time it could well go in a downwards motion


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: vittorio301 on October 12, 2017, 04:12:00 PM
hard forks will be temporary set back for BTC but after a while it will come out strong and all those forks will have a 0 value after traders have dumped it to the depths of hell.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: arnux on October 12, 2017, 04:15:23 PM
I love it when people make these sort of predictions. If it becomes true they become famous from it and hailed as some sort of magic user but if it fails to become true people forget about it and the user doesn't have any negative effects from it.

You might be right but I think bitcoin will be at its height of its career in 10 years time


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Vaflia on October 12, 2017, 04:27:29 PM
I think bitcoin is not that you can't kill. Just because the system is already too widespread and strong. A different rigid forks only add interest to bitcoin because people are trying to purchase btc for get more coins after the fork.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: mikki14 on October 12, 2017, 04:29:07 PM
I voted yes. I'm sure that BTC can survive that 10 yrs with flying colors. And the changes you want? I am no genius but it's like altering the BTC. And using GPU mining is like going backwards. Still not convincing for me.

The US economy is $20 trillion in debt. The EU was 12 trillion euros in debt at last count before the EU debt clock website (http://www.eudebtclock.org) was censored & taken offline & search engine results were scrubbed to make it difficult to find info on what current EU outstanding debt is.

People often question whether bitcoin/crypto will survive and have longevity moving into the future.

I'm not certain anyone realizes how close american and european fiat may be to imminent collapse.

But if you just print more money you can pay off your debtors faster! Oh wait, except they print theirs even faster so you're screwed either way.

Bitcoins are constantly adapting, changing and upgrading. Will it always be number one? Maybe not. Something better will come out at some point. I don't think in the next 10 years bitcoins will be obsolete or worthless though.

If they will print a lot of money, its value will decrease. It wouldn't be enough to pay their debts and their economy will suffer big time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: lite on October 12, 2017, 04:52:32 PM
Quick Disclaimer:
1. I'm not here to support any shitcoin.
2. We're all gathered here because of bitcoin, so it's hard for me to see it fading way.

Bitcoin was designed not be fully anonymous since transactions were open permanently for the public to view.
Authorities and security agencies were able to trace the bitcoin owners based metadata and transaction pattern, history and so on.

Some developers understand this issue and they go ahead to create some new altcoins which they are fully anonymous by implementing new hashing algorithms on their very new altcoins such as Dash, Monero, Zcash and Zcoin.

So why the bitcoin "hard fork" instead of updating the original bitcoin core?
Forked coins like BitcoinCash & BitcoinGold are moving from ASICs to GPU mining for faster transactions, why not BTC?
Why not update bitcoin mining algorithm to Equihash (zk-snarks) like Zcash and the next upcoming Bitcoin Gold BTG? 

Instead of updating the original bitcoin core to have more secure and fast transactions with lower xt fee, yet making hard forks!
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
 
What do you think, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks :)
I think hard forks aren't going to kill bitcoin, they're just bump on the road. if bitcoin core code was alerted/changed to mine with GPU, then what'll happen to current asic miner and machine producer? won't they lose money/jobs, they've been supporting/mining bitcoin for years. it wouldn't be fair for them!


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: ramsdaj28 on October 13, 2017, 11:05:36 AM
Quick Disclaimer:
1. I'm not here to support any shitcoin.
2. We're all gathered here because of bitcoin, so it's hard for me to see it fading way.

Bitcoin was designed not be fully anonymous since transactions were open permanently for the public to view.
Authorities and security agencies were able to trace the bitcoin owners based metadata and transaction pattern, history and so on.

Some developers understand this issue and they go ahead to create some new altcoins which they are fully anonymous by implementing new hashing algorithms on their very new altcoins such as Dash, Monero, Zcash and Zcoin.

So why the bitcoin "hard fork" instead of updating the original bitcoin core?
Forked coins like BitcoinCash & BitcoinGold are moving from ASICs to GPU mining for faster transactions, why not BTC?
Why not update bitcoin mining algorithm to Equihash (zk-snarks) like Zcash and the next upcoming Bitcoin Gold BTG?

Instead of updating the original bitcoin core to have more secure and fast transactions with lower xt fee, yet making hard forks!
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
 
What do you think, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks :)
What's the point of updating bitcoin core? It was already told to everyone that there will only be 21M bitcoins available all in all. After that, no remaining bitcoin will be available for mining. I don't see anything bad about these forks. It's business, and these big people will make a way to maintain the circulation of coins in the market. I also see bitcoin still alive in the next 10 years.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: germa66 on October 14, 2017, 12:22:24 PM
I think if people's interest in bitcoin continues to increase then it does not matter with the coming of some hard fork though. because bitcoin will continue to survive when it has many fans.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: slackcryptoz on October 14, 2017, 12:27:09 PM
I'm not sure based on what fact it's termed that bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years. Looking the ongoing growth as well support from different countries and corporates bitcoin will continue its usage for a longer time period. Even after the last coin gets mined the circulation will make it grow further and reach the entire population.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: billysunday2000 on October 14, 2017, 12:28:21 PM
Bitcoin is too expensive compared to other crypto coins. Plus the transaction fees are too expensive as well.  The energy costs involved with the bitcoin mining is way more than it should be.  I think Bitcoin will be around in 10 years but it will NOT have 50% of the market cap.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: xiboothrezi on October 14, 2017, 07:53:55 PM
I choose: yes. bitcoin provides many offers about the ease of transacting. the technology is also very good. more and more people are using bitcoin. that's why bitcoin will still exist in 10 years, so do I think.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: salihno71 on October 14, 2017, 08:12:28 PM
I voted yes. For most of the people, anonymity is not of the essential. Main concerns and biggest issues bitcoin should solve are:
- scalability: number of transactions per second is still low
- fees: expensive for low amount transactions. Those two topics will be probably addressed in the near future with some layer2 solution.
- forks: as much as forks are unavoidable, they can confuse and deter potential users and investors. If they remain as frequent as this year, this might be a problem.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: rocoloko on October 14, 2017, 08:16:23 PM
Quote
Do you think bitcoin will live to see the next 10 years with all these new hard forks?

Sure it will  ;D
Bitcoin is the King!


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Pettuh4 on October 14, 2017, 08:28:24 PM
It sure will and even further due to the consistent growth in market volumes and value. There's nothing stopping bitcoin at the moment as we all can see and so i don't se any reason why it will  not live to see many more years ahead of us. Even if a rival coin (altcoin) with a different technology should emerge on the scene it will take a long time  for it to dethrone bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: corroze on October 14, 2017, 09:01:09 PM
in my opinion bitcoin will be able to last for the next few years and it seems that no one can replace bitcoin to be at the top of cryptocurrency, its population and its popularity can not be replaced by other altcoins that are in cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: South Park on October 14, 2017, 10:01:31 PM
Quick Disclaimer:
1. I'm not here to support any shitcoin.
2. We're all gathered here because of bitcoin, so it's hard for me to see it fading way.

Bitcoin was designed not be fully anonymous since transactions were open permanently for the public to view.
Authorities and security agencies were able to trace the bitcoin owners based metadata and transaction pattern, history and so on.

Some developers understand this issue and they go ahead to create some new altcoins which they are fully anonymous by implementing new hashing algorithms on their very new altcoins such as Dash, Monero, Zcash and Zcoin.

So why the bitcoin "hard fork" instead of updating the original bitcoin core?
Forked coins like BitcoinCash & BitcoinGold are moving from ASICs to GPU mining for faster transactions, why not BTC?
Why not update bitcoin mining algorithm to Equihash (zk-snarks) like Zcash and the next upcoming Bitcoin Gold BTG? 

Instead of updating the original bitcoin core to have more secure and fast transactions with lower xt fee, yet making hard forks!
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
 
What do you think, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks :)
You cannot update the mining algorithm just because you want it, if you did that then all the money that miners have invested will be wasted, it will be the equivalent of declaring war on mining and it does not solve anything at some point people will find a way to build a miner capable to mine effectively whatever algorithm you create and then we are going to get the centralization of mining once again.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: joshmontford on October 14, 2017, 10:04:10 PM
i wrote it somewhere else, but i'll say it again. i believe it will still be here, but not as "powerful" as now


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: aryaadikariyansyahsuwarto on October 14, 2017, 10:34:40 PM
I think the next 10 years, bitcoin will not die, and I do not imagine that happening. because just look now, bitcoin is getting popular and attracting many people, let alone 10 years to come ..


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Swoshinima on October 14, 2017, 10:43:18 PM
Bitcoin will exist forever!

Some hardfork coins will also have succes, but they won't replace bitcoin.

But there are also some new coins which will be under the top 100 currencies soon.

My favourite one is DeeoOnion, have a look:

https://deeponion.org/

Just ask me, if you want to know something about!


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: digaran on October 14, 2017, 10:58:45 PM
More hard forks means better Bitcoin, not only it will live for the next 10 years but even 100 years, what the experts think about the future hard forks? do they think that developers will find a way to control the TX fee abuse by miners or they will keep it the way it is?
After 10 years blockchain will grow bigger than 1TB if ordinary people will have a better technology by then, miners will have a better technology than ordinary people. I think they will start using my activity tokens and eBTC instead of Bitcoin, because Waves is faster and cheaper. Ξ has Putin to support it for a long time, he is a president for as long as I can remember. lol
Bitcoin will exist forever!

Some hardfork coins will also have succes, but they won't replace bitcoin.

But there are also some new coins which will be under the top 100 currencies soon.

My favourite one is ScamOnion, have a look:

https://scamonion.org/

Just ask me, if you want to know something about!
Now have a look. give me 2000 scam onion, there I begged again but this time not for translation. deep lol.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: kinzey on October 15, 2017, 02:59:37 AM
YES!!! bitcoin is here to stay... maybe not the top coin but it will be here to stay for sure.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: btcbringer on October 15, 2017, 03:07:35 AM
in my opinion, btc will live as long as the cryptos live, but the use of bitcoin maybe changed, as the first use of blockchain, btc has an irreplaceable position, which decide it shall be the king for long


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: raymart0720 on October 15, 2017, 03:33:22 AM
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
I dont think that Bitcoin hard fork will exceed Bitcoin , Bitcoin core make more improvements and fix some issues in the Bitcoin code and i think this will be a good enough.
If Bitcoin core team change the whole Bitcoin code what will be the value of the Original Bitcoin code that created by Satoshi Nakamoto?
I DONT THINK it will not kill bitcoin
Hard fork made to have alternative coins and make the difficulty of mining and earning it...
There are many altcoins and cryptos are poping out and some of them are successfull


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: loda.doa on October 15, 2017, 03:49:58 AM
i vote yes.
bitcoin will grow stronger in the future


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: lenj on October 15, 2017, 04:05:43 AM
Good opinion. Actually i dont wanna bitcoin is replaced by another coin. But i saw your trade seems like will become true.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Lorilikes on October 15, 2017, 04:11:10 AM
Bitcoin is going nowhere but up.  It's proven itself time and time again regardless of the improved variations the original muscle is bitcoin. It's pretty much going to be a store of value- and lots of it- for many generations.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: DoublerHunter on October 15, 2017, 04:44:45 AM
Bitcoin is going nowhere but up.  It's proven itself time and time again regardless of the improved variations the original muscle is bitcoin. It's pretty much going to be a store of value- and lots of it- for many generations.
This era that we are in is called digital era and this era is when we are going to have a lot of technologies implemented in our life and if we are going to have a lot of adjustments then we can get to the level where we will be fit in digital era. New generations will get benefit of bitcoin and we can see it after a few years because it is slowly starting right now that bitcoin is getting accepted and more and more people are getting aware of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Skieleton on October 15, 2017, 09:41:41 AM
in my opinion, btc will live as long as the cryptos live, but the use of bitcoin maybe changed, as the first use of blockchain, btc has an irreplaceable position, which decide it shall be the king for long

Do you want to trade without what? At the beginning of the campaign is the signature.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: South Park on October 19, 2017, 07:23:31 PM
I voted yes. For most of the people, anonymity is not of the essential. Main concerns and biggest issues bitcoin should solve are:
- scalability: number of transactions per second is still low
- fees: expensive for low amount transactions. Those two topics will be probably addressed in the near future with some layer2 solution.
- forks: as much as forks are unavoidable, they can confuse and deter potential users and investors. If they remain as frequent as this year, this might be a problem.
True, strong anonymity is not needed, bitcoin is private enough as it is and with the right steps you can increase that if you are worried about the world knowing what you are buying on the web, what it is essential is to get confirmations a lot faster and make bitcoin easier to use.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Sasuke102001 on October 19, 2017, 07:36:17 PM
Actually it is very difficult to predict about something like bitcoins that whether they would survive the next 10 years or not but most probably they will survive till the next 10 years. As Bitcoin could survive the China bans many people believe that Bitcoin can survive many other such incidents, even I hope that Bitcoin survives.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: fabioganga on October 19, 2017, 07:37:09 PM
Quick Disclaimer:
1. I'm not here to support any shitcoin.
2. We're all gathered here because of bitcoin, so it's hard for me to see it fading way.

Bitcoin was designed not be fully anonymous since transactions were open permanently for the public to view.
Authorities and security agencies were able to trace the bitcoin owners based metadata and transaction pattern, history and so on.

Some developers understand this issue and they go ahead to create some new altcoins which they are fully anonymous by implementing new hashing algorithms on their very new altcoins such as Dash, Monero, Zcash and Zcoin.

So why the bitcoin "hard fork" instead of updating the original bitcoin core?
Forked coins like BitcoinCash & BitcoinGold are moving from ASICs to GPU mining for faster transactions, why not BTC?
Why not update bitcoin mining algorithm to Equihash (zk-snarks) like Zcash and the next upcoming Bitcoin Gold BTG? 

Instead of updating the original bitcoin core to have more secure and fast transactions with lower xt fee, yet making hard forks!
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
 
What do you think, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks :)

Bitcoin is here to stay for a long time... but if not, I'm ready for the next thing, be it BTC 2.0 or whatever.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Cindy1983 on October 19, 2017, 07:46:21 PM
I think Bitcoin only die when there are no internet anymore :)). Beside at this time Bitcoin is standing at the 1st place of the coin market and the total supply amount of Bitcoin is still not mined out so I think although there are thousand of hard forks will be happened but Bitcoin still alive for at least next 30 or 40 years when the supply amount of Bitcoin still available.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: stompix on October 19, 2017, 08:28:27 PM
You cannot update the mining algorithm just because you want it, if you did that then all the money that miners have invested will be wasted, it will be the equivalent of declaring war on mining and it does not solve anything at some point people will find a way to build a miner capable to mine effectively whatever algorithm you create and then we are going to get the centralization of mining once again.

You can declare whatever you want this is the beauty of it.
Right now we have a declaration of war and is called Bitcoin Gold.

The problem is who will follow and how important as market share volume investment and others those people are.
If the user base moves to bitcoin gold the war is won and miners can stick with their sha mining asics.
If nobody gives a damn about bitcoin gold the war is lost and we say by by to another failed altcoin.

And of course there will always, no matter what algorithms you use, a so called asic that will do the hashing a lot faster and cheaper than the average computer. The problem is the difference is hashing power.
Even now it is possible to build asics specialized for other algorithms but you will have to build a machine that does nothing else and only gives you a 4 to 5  more hashing power than the gpus you could buy with the same money.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: jimn on October 19, 2017, 08:30:40 PM
No, I think bitcoin will live a lot more than the next 10 years. Its growing up daily and the community is also supporting it and its price keep rising as well. There is many factors proving that bitcoin will survive for so long time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: hurain on October 19, 2017, 09:10:53 PM
I think Bitcoin only die when there are no internet anymore :)). Beside at this time Bitcoin is standing at the 1st place of the coin market and the total supply amount of Bitcoin is still not mined out so I think although there are thousand of hard forks will be happened but Bitcoin still alive for at least next 30 or 40 years when the supply amount of Bitcoin still available.
I think it is now almost impossible that Internet will down for ever.Internet is now even available in the most backward countries of the world. so it cannot down forever. i think bitcoin will even survive with more high price even if all the supply of bitcoin is over. then the demand of bitcoin will increase and the supply will then surely decrease which will also cause the increase in the price of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: dutchkay on October 19, 2017, 09:15:15 PM
I voted yes and I believe it will last that long. I also think that Bitcoin is in its early days. More prices are to be seen.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: aholenewcoin on October 19, 2017, 09:16:38 PM
The hard fork so far has only seemed to strengthen the crypto economy so I think It will only get better


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: castiel0504 on October 19, 2017, 09:18:04 PM
Voted - YES

Bitcoin is/and will be Founding Father of all future Cash/Shit/Gold/Bit/Seg/< insert here any future hard fork name that is going to happen >


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: MMA on October 19, 2017, 10:09:34 PM
The hard fork so far has only seemed to strengthen the crypto economy so I think It will only get better
I can also expect so. i think that even the next hardfork will also make bitcoin more strong and reliable. people will continue taking intereste in bitcoin and which will even make bitcoin more reliable and secure for trading.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: jiamileshuai on October 19, 2017, 11:34:56 PM
I'm sure yes, because we see now the growth of bitcoin users in various countries. If bitcoins are not yet acceptable in most countries, this is the process. Not all things can be directly accepted by humans, there must be gaps. But when viewed, bitcoin is very prospective and helps and facilitates transactions and investments in the sharing of areas.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: cioloxl on October 19, 2017, 11:40:39 PM
Voted 'yes'. I presume Bitcoin will still be around in 10 years but probably won't be the leading coin in the world of cryptocurrencies anymore. It is getting outdated as you sort of mention in the OP and other, better performing altcoins are already emerging rapidly. BTC dominance in the total market capitalization is 49% nowadays, a huge drop compared to the 80 - 90% we've seen up until march this year.

That is just the marketing maturing. Bitcoin is neither going away nor becoming obsolete. Lightning is essentially smart contracts. If bitcoin gets killed by a clone, and not something completely different, like eth, that means it must be due to some economically catastrophic decisions taken by the core devs. Which, unfortunately, is not unlikely. But I have faith things will have already settled down in 2018.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: BeerPanda on October 19, 2017, 11:41:23 PM
whaaaat ? why do you think so?


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: requitix on October 19, 2017, 11:44:16 PM
Quick Disclaimer:
1. I'm not here to support any shitcoin.
2. We're all gathered here because of bitcoin, so it's hard for me to see it fading way.

Bitcoin was designed not be fully anonymous since transactions were open permanently for the public to view.
Authorities and security agencies were able to trace the bitcoin owners based metadata and transaction pattern, history and so on.

Some developers understand this issue and they go ahead to create some new altcoins which they are fully anonymous by implementing new hashing algorithms on their very new altcoins such as Dash, Monero, Zcash and Zcoin.

So why the bitcoin "hard fork" instead of updating the original bitcoin core?
Forked coins like BitcoinCash & BitcoinGold are moving from ASICs to GPU mining for faster transactions, why not BTC?
Why not update bitcoin mining algorithm to Equihash (zk-snarks) like Zcash and the next upcoming Bitcoin Gold BTG? 

Instead of updating the original bitcoin core to have more secure and fast transactions with lower xt fee, yet making hard forks!
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
 
What do you think, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks :)

I do believe that BTC will live on forever. As long as we have electricity BTC will be here.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Darker45 on October 19, 2017, 11:50:04 PM
I think Bitcoin will continue to exist in the next 10 years. It will not even slow down its pace during that time. That will probably be a time of a very widespread and well-accepted Bitcoin. 10 years from now, more and more countries are already accepting bitcoin and other cryptos. The value of each BTC might already be in the $50,000 or more within 10 years.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Gabb on October 19, 2017, 11:51:38 PM
It is true that to speak of any crypto currency in the long term is very risky, however the conditions seem given for bitcoin to reach 2027 with great health and success because despite the multiple adversities that it has faced, it has been able to sustain itself as the most popular of all despite the new and versatile coins that are appearing. It is true that there will be many more obstacles to overcome, but fortunately things have worked relatively well so far, and I believe that everything that comes will be for the good.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: thet on October 19, 2017, 11:53:05 PM
I don't know if bitcoin will last long. Let us all wait and see for the upcoming years of bitcoin. I will just continue to trade until btc and alts exist.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: senin on October 20, 2017, 12:04:35 AM
Bitcoin will in any case live to the next ten years. If his support team does not eliminate his shortcomings, then the new altcoins will take his place as the leader of the crypto currency, however, I believe Bitcoin will continue to exist for more than a decade. So, everything will depend on which crypto currency is technically more perfect.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: chichigirl on October 20, 2017, 12:16:37 AM
Bitcoin will last long, it will survive and the price will continue to rise. I can see a greater future for bitcoin users that someday digital currency will be spreading in the world.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: mace15 on October 20, 2017, 05:08:39 AM
Bitcoin will last long, it will survive and the price will continue to rise. I can see a greater future for bitcoin users that someday digital currency will be spreading in the world.
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I am seeing bitcoin will be live in the more upcoming years. With it's price seems continuing to rise I can see it will be having a great future. The more users the demand is increasing so more likely bitcoin will last longer.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: leppyj on October 20, 2017, 05:16:46 AM
Yes, bitcoin will still be much around but it might not be as popular as it is right now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Ayaancool on October 20, 2017, 07:14:06 AM
In my optimism bitcoin live to see 10 years.It is outdated now,so being a leading coin in crypto market is very challenging for bitcoin.It is especial to give an exceeding performance on bitcoin to survive in the crypto market.Bitcoin could make up 10% of the $5 trillion average daily volume in the foreign exchange market in 10 years,and it's market capitalisation could grow to $1.75 trillion which would make each bitcoin worth $100,000.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: thisappointed on October 20, 2017, 07:16:38 AM
Quick Disclaimer:
1. I'm not here to support any shitcoin.
2. We're all gathered here because of bitcoin, so it's hard for me to see it fading way.

Bitcoin was designed not be fully anonymous since transactions were open permanently for the public to view.
Authorities and security agencies were able to trace the bitcoin owners based metadata and transaction pattern, history and so on.

Some developers understand this issue and they go ahead to create some new altcoins which they are fully anonymous by implementing new hashing algorithms on their very new altcoins such as Dash, Monero, Zcash and Zcoin.

So why the bitcoin "hard fork" instead of updating the original bitcoin core?
Forked coins like BitcoinCash & BitcoinGold are moving from ASICs to GPU mining for faster transactions, why not BTC?
Why not update bitcoin mining algorithm to Equihash (zk-snarks) like Zcash and the next upcoming Bitcoin Gold BTG? 

Instead of updating the original bitcoin core to have more secure and fast transactions with lower xt fee, yet making hard forks!
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
 
What do you think, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks :)


We're not so sure about that. This hard forks that you were saying is like an Airdrop, but you do have a point that it might kill the original bitcoin someday(let's hope not). The reason behind this hard fork is SegWit, correct me if I'm wrong. It seems that they're trying to make a coin that will surpass bitcoin or something looks like bitcoin.

And they just did, we all know about this BITCOINCASH, but I didn't say that it surpassed bitcoin, NO, what I mean is its name sound like bitcoin but is not bitcoin at all. It is like those shitcoin out there.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: germa66 on October 20, 2017, 07:17:42 AM
actually i'm not sure of that, whether bitcoin will be able to survive with all hard fork traversed. but I also can not conclude so I can only see it and wait for some good news that can convince me that bitcoin is able to survive.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: South Park on October 20, 2017, 08:56:16 PM
i wrote it somewhere else, but i'll say it again. i believe it will still be here, but not as "powerful" as now
And why it should not be as powerful as it is now? Do you mean bitcoin dominance? That number is irrelevant, bitcoin is the best crypto out there but there are other useful projects begin created so it makes sense as time passes that those projects begin to reduce bitcoin dominance.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: stayeduptolate on October 20, 2017, 09:23:49 PM
Quick Disclaimer:
1. I'm not here to support any shitcoin.
2. We're all gathered here because of bitcoin, so it's hard for me to see it fading way.

Bitcoin was designed not be fully anonymous since transactions were open permanently for the public to view.
Authorities and security agencies were able to trace the bitcoin owners based metadata and transaction pattern, history and so on.

Some developers understand this issue and they go ahead to create some new altcoins which they are fully anonymous by implementing new hashing algorithms on their very new altcoins such as Dash, Monero, Zcash and Zcoin.

So why the bitcoin "hard fork" instead of updating the original bitcoin core?
Forked coins like BitcoinCash & BitcoinGold are moving from ASICs to GPU mining for faster transactions, why not BTC?
Why not update bitcoin mining algorithm to Equihash (zk-snarks) like Zcash and the next upcoming Bitcoin Gold BTG? 

Instead of updating the original bitcoin core to have more secure and fast transactions with lower xt fee, yet making hard forks!
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
 
What do you think, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks :)
Yes I do believe that bitcoin will be present after 10 years and don’t agree with the statement that bitcoin wont last to see the next 10 years because since bitcoin has started it has gained immense amount of popularity not only from the younger generations but also from the middle and old generations. Which has lead to increased usage and demand among the people. It is also evident from the increasing value of bitcoin day by day. Bitcoin has started to be accepted around the world now. And many people are using it for earning money, mining, trading, giving loans and gambling too. So it’s clear that bitcoin will last the next 10 years because it has a very high potential.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: retnoanjani on October 20, 2017, 09:35:10 PM
Yes.
Ten years away, it is not impossible Bitcoin increasingly accepted by the world community and can be used as a means of payment via the internet like a credit card. Besides, Bitcoin will be the same investment instrument as fiat. It is important for the government to set up an 'umbrella' that will protect the users of digital currency, be it Bitcoin or altcoin. Public security, especially in financial and payment systems, is indirectly related to the stability of a country's financial system.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: bitllionaire on October 20, 2017, 10:01:38 PM
actually i'm not sure of that, whether bitcoin will be able to survive with all hard fork traversed. but I also can not conclude so I can only see it and wait for some good news that can convince me that bitcoin is able to survive.
In fact no one know about he future, but I think still we can evaluate from the present trend of increasing the number of bitcoin users that bitcoin will stay for a long long time, because people are currently taking more interested in bitcoin and the use of bitcoin for online shopping as well as in offline shopping is increasing from time to time which is also making bitcoin more secure.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: South Park on October 21, 2017, 10:48:33 PM
You cannot update the mining algorithm just because you want it, if you did that then all the money that miners have invested will be wasted, it will be the equivalent of declaring war on mining and it does not solve anything at some point people will find a way to build a miner capable to mine effectively whatever algorithm you create and then we are going to get the centralization of mining once again.

You can declare whatever you want this is the beauty of it.
Right now we have a declaration of war and is called Bitcoin Gold.

The problem is who will follow and how important as market share volume investment and others those people are.
If the user base moves to bitcoin gold the war is won and miners can stick with their sha mining asics.
If nobody gives a damn about bitcoin gold the war is lost and we say by by to another failed altcoin.

And of course there will always, no matter what algorithms you use, a so called asic that will do the hashing a lot faster and cheaper than the average computer. The problem is the difference is hashing power.
Even now it is possible to build asics specialized for other algorithms but you will have to build a machine that does nothing else and only gives you a 4 to 5  more hashing power than the gpus you could buy with the same money.
All of what you said is correct, but the OP was talking about why bitcoin did not changed the mining algorithm, and if I remember correctly some devs have said that is the last option, so it is not something that will be done without serious thought, if the devs wanted to do that then we will have the opposite scenario to the current one, in this scenario the devs want a change and not the miners and if they changed the algorithm it is possible someone else forked bitcoin to maintain the current algorithm, so I think trying to change the algorithm is only going to create more problems than the ones it could solve.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: jennywhzz on November 19, 2017, 03:49:44 PM
No matter what people say about bitcoin , No matter how many countries banning this digital currency, Whatever people say evil of bitcoin here, Bitcoin still survive. Just look at the past fork. We accept these fork effect on bitcoins value like when china banned the bitcoin the price fall down. But now one left the bitcoin they survive and now the price is higher than before. Also if you open the chart i will find the price increase every year. I've heard in 2018 the price will touch 10,000$ or even more.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: NikolayRaev on November 19, 2017, 08:52:02 PM
The opinions of experts from various companies from Wall Street were divided. Some believe that the crypto currency expects a bright future, others - that it is a bubble and deception.
Bitcoin literally changes the key concepts in the financial world. Historically, people considered a value asset something that can be owned and that can be sold at a predictable (more or less accurately) price, but bitcoin is also a digital asset. Bitcoin today is like Facebook, when he used only 10 million people, imagine what will happen when the number of users exceeds a billion?

However, each value asset, which humanity knew to this day, besides the function of preserving value or value, had other functions. For example, you can buy something for money. In order for crypto currencies to become a value asset, you need them to become useful as something else.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Henry27 on December 18, 2017, 02:22:05 PM
It sure will and even further due to the consistent growth in market volumes and value. There's nothing stopping bitcoin at the moment as we all can see and so i don't se any reason why it will  not live to see many more years ahead of us. Even if a rival coin (altcoin) with a different technology should emerge on the scene it will take a long time  for it to dethrone bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: MrHertz on March 13, 2018, 08:10:48 PM
If bitcoin was static - I guess you might be right, but bitcoin is not static, it evolves and that is why it won't die next year
yes, its share still decreasing, but still this is number one coin, and if bitcoin will continue to be developed it will stay like this for  at least 3-5 years, imho..
now we have fast transactions, if there will be some technology developed then it can live very long.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Games.Bitcoin on March 13, 2018, 08:14:14 PM
This is one of the gloomiest death of Bitcoin messages I've ever read because for once all the concern points were valid :(


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: lillyann on March 13, 2018, 08:35:40 PM
Bitcoin started back in 2008 and is still on its path to establish itself.  What happens in 10 years depends upon various factors IMO.



BTC will be stronger and stronger. The price compared to last year has grown 3 times. I hope that in 2019 the bTC price will go up around 25k $. That should be ...


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: cryptbit.man on March 13, 2018, 08:37:46 PM
I hope it does, but to be honest bitcoin is simply the first iteration of crypto currency. In a way I hope that in the next year bitcoin will fade to give way to a safer, faster and overall better cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: senin on March 13, 2018, 08:51:56 PM
Judging by how quickly bitcoin grows old and becomes slow, if it survives in the next ten years, it is unlikely to be a leader and also significantly affect the other crypto currency. Most likely he lost leadership positions and will become an ordinary mediocre coin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: jeremypwr on March 13, 2018, 08:53:19 PM
This must be some sort of a joke, so here's your generic LOL  :D
Bitcoin will have exploded within the next 10 years (I'm praying) so hopefully you bookmark this thread and revisit it sooner than that.
You will more than likely be presently surprised.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: coinbitrade on March 13, 2018, 09:49:56 PM
While bitcoin remains the leader. How many have already talked about the fact that bitcoin is uncomfortable, and not anonymous. But still no coin has yet moved bitcoin from the first place. And I think that in 10 years bitcoin will remain in the first place


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: lordmick on March 13, 2018, 10:35:42 PM
In my opinion bitcoin will not die. Because regulation of the state will be the basis of fixing bitcoin as payment tool. Bright example is Japan. It just start. And what was result? I think that any forks will not affect to it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: joel123 on March 14, 2018, 12:14:58 PM
Says who? Do you have any information to support this claim? Same has been said about bitcoin over and over the years but still here we are and even at a dip, still worth so much. I don't think bitcoin will die. More and more people keep coming in and the market keeps growing. As long as people keep investing, the market will keep growing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Minerall on March 18, 2018, 11:45:52 AM
I think that it'll still be alive in ten years. I see no problems why it should be removed or cease to be popular. But its price can change a lot.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: russella31 on March 24, 2018, 03:40:02 AM
I personally think that bitcoin will live for the next 10 years. Even though the price of the bitcoin decreased, soon it will gain back its value. Just hold on. Bitcoin is also becoming popular in the market now. So that's a good sign that it will still thrive for the nest 10 years.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: woqu5 on March 24, 2018, 03:41:45 AM
I think that bitcoin can survive longer, and even after several decades it can become a global payment tool. I believe that the development of digital currency in the digital era will not be bad.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: izzabel on March 24, 2018, 03:58:34 AM
Quick Disclaimer:
1. I'm not here to support any shitcoin.
2. We're all gathered here because of bitcoin, so it's hard for me to see it fading way.

Bitcoin was designed not be fully anonymous since transactions were open permanently for the public to view.
Authorities and security agencies were able to trace the bitcoin owners based metadata and transaction pattern, history and so on.

Some developers understand this issue and they go ahead to create some new altcoins which they are fully anonymous by implementing new hashing algorithms on their very new altcoins such as Dash, Monero, Zcash and Zcoin.

So why the bitcoin "hard fork" instead of updating the original bitcoin core?
Forked coins like BitcoinCash & BitcoinGold are moving from ASICs to GPU mining for faster transactions, why not BTC?
Why not update bitcoin mining algorithm to Equihash (zk-snarks) like Zcash and the next upcoming Bitcoin Gold BTG? 

Instead of updating the original bitcoin core to have more secure and fast transactions with lower xt fee, yet making hard forks!
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
 
What do you think, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks :)
Hopefully will leave forever so that many people will help bitcoin to,to become wealthy and millionaires


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Snaic on March 24, 2018, 05:19:14 AM
It is not necessary to update the core of bitcoin itself, because this changes the vision of Satoshi Nakamoto to bitcoin. And this is a huge problem for improving bitcoin. Therefore, there are many forks. If the crypto currency will develop and bitcoin only changes cosmetically, it is unlikely that it will survive until the next ten years. We see what caused the delay in eliminating its shortcomings with scalability. When the solution to this issue dragged on, he just began to lose popularity, people began to switch to the use of other types of crypto currency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: altercreed on March 24, 2018, 05:50:45 AM
That's your opinion and you're entitled to express it too. But as far as bitcoin's market capitalization is concerned, it's clearly evident that bitcoin's popularity and the demand of people is overwhelming which shows that its existence will lasts even more than a century.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: maydna on March 24, 2018, 11:09:12 AM
I personally think that bitcoin will live for the next 10 years. Even though the price of the bitcoin decreased, soon it will gain back its value. Just hold on. Bitcoin is also becoming popular in the market now. So that's a good sign that it will still thrive for the nest 10 years.


we are almost 10 years with bitcoin and I am sure that bitcoin will live for the next 10 years again and even will stay with us for a long time. I think many people will come to bitcoin because bitcoin offers something new and good for us so I am sure that people will like bitcoin. but bitcoin still need support from us to stay for a long time and we can see that bitcoin will give more benefits to us. with many people is using bitcoin, it will help bitcoin to continue the journey.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: luckybit1 on May 18, 2018, 05:38:03 PM
Were you got sure information!! i quote you wrong over time. Bitcoin are thought in some countries in the world,And i tell you my own unborn children all going to join bitcoin and learn about bitcoin in the future. Bitcoin has a great future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: ongkok87 on May 18, 2018, 05:58:04 PM
I think that bitcoin can survive longer, and even after several decades it can become a global payment tool. I believe that the development of digital currency in the digital era will not be bad.
really because no one can predict the old and short of bitcoin age, because the age of bitcoin also depends also on the demand, because more and more demand the longer the bitcoin age in this world


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: niz3r_nade on May 18, 2018, 06:23:41 PM
judging by the growing number of bitcoin enthusiasts, I'm sure bitcoin will stay alive for another 10 years. the more bitcoin demand keeps the value high. and I'm sure over time bitcoin also makes new features to make it easier for people to transact in bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Sobol101 on May 22, 2018, 05:24:37 PM
Quick Disclaimer:
1. I'm not here to support any shitcoin.
2. We're all gathered here because of bitcoin, so it's hard for me to see it fading way.

Bitcoin was designed not be fully anonymous since transactions were open permanently for the public to view.
Authorities and security agencies were able to trace the bitcoin owners based metadata and transaction pattern, history and so on.

Some developers understand this issue and they go ahead to create some new altcoins which they are fully anonymous by implementing new hashing algorithms on their very new altcoins such as Dash, Monero, Zcash and Zcoin.

So why the bitcoin "hard fork" instead of updating the original bitcoin core?
Forked coins like BitcoinCash & BitcoinGold are moving from ASICs to GPU mining for faster transactions, why not BTC?
Why not update bitcoin mining algorithm to Equihash (zk-snarks) like Zcash and the next upcoming Bitcoin Gold BTG? 

Instead of updating the original bitcoin core to have more secure and fast transactions with lower xt fee, yet making hard forks!
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
 
What do you think, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks :)
This may very well be true. How many big companies have come and gone in history. Bitcoin is not exception. If something better comes along, it will naturally overtake BTC.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: pekcoin01 on May 22, 2018, 05:38:54 PM
Bitcoin will be a part of our life for a long time.
The strongest member of the crypto money is the bitcool. Ten years from now, the crypto stock market will be with us. Maybe the prices will be very high, maybe too low. I'm sure everyone will make money.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: ALI AKBAR on May 23, 2018, 09:19:42 AM
I do not believe Bitcoin can not see the next 10 years. I believe Bitcoin can see it for a long time and even see Bitcoin as the world's most expensive coin. Bitcoin prices are increasing day by day, and different countries of the world use it as a payment. People are using transactions, exchange, payment online shopping, etc. So it can be said that this is a long time we can see in the world.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Kethek on May 23, 2018, 09:54:19 AM
bitcoin will stay alive in the next 10 years and forever I see bitcoin will not be stopped and its popularity will increase ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: lance04 on May 25, 2018, 04:40:27 AM
It’s impossible to happen that bitcoin wont live to see the next ten years
because as of now they have a great services and performances that can sustain the investors want to gain a high income or profit in their business aside from that they in the demand business.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: eagle10 on May 25, 2018, 05:02:55 AM
I do not believe that bitcoin is no longer around in the next ten years. It will still be the leading cryptocurrency but in the last five years of the ten years, in my opinion, it will not anymore the king of the cryptocurrency. A new great coin with good technology, faster transaction and low fees, will emerge as the new leading cryptocurrency beating bitcoin at the top being the dominant cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: jitenrajput on May 25, 2018, 05:13:10 AM
As far as I know, forking is done when a few developers want to modify the blockchain but not all of them agree. So, it is forked and as a result, we have altcoins.

Talking about BTC, it may lose number 1 position in next 10 years, but will always remain in top 5. But it is not going to vanish.

I voted Yes.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Minus7point5 on May 25, 2018, 05:14:58 AM
I voted and 80% of voters agree with me that BTC will still be here in 10 years.
Not only will it still be here, but those who have HODL on that long will be wealthy.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: mmo4me.2016 on May 25, 2018, 05:18:42 AM
I think Bitcoin and altcoin will grow! It is currently a difficult time, but it will be better in the second half of 2018 and into 2019
Development requires appropriate changes! Nothing is invariable


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: _yoshi on May 25, 2018, 05:24:22 AM
They can fork bitcoin how many times they want. They can make it even faster and better. But they will never can replace bitcoin. Bitcoin is king, and it will stay a long time. And in ten years im sure that there will be no cheap fork coin who can overtake him!


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: qiwoman2 on May 25, 2018, 05:26:01 AM
I don't think it will go away any time soon because Bitcoin was the Father of the blockchain, so every other coin and token has given birth to new ideas and innovation because of Bitcoin. What I do see though is Bitcoin losing market dominance and at some point I think many cryptos will un peg themselves from Bitcoin, which in a way I hope does happen so that each coin or token or business is judged on merit and accomplishment and not just on the Bitcoin price. I would not like to see Bitcoin die because of Bitcoin we are all gathered here and participating in this wonderful revolution we call the blockchain.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Jet Kolet on May 25, 2018, 05:32:06 AM
I think Bitcoin and altcoin will grow! It is currently a difficult time, but it will be better in the second half of 2018 and into 2019
Development requires appropriate changes! Nothing is invariable

yes, there is always a change in the market, we just wait for the growth. if the age of bitcoin remaining 10 years ahead. and now I use this opportunity well and keep trying to get more profit. so the benefits that I get I will use to set up a business.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: ipanks on May 25, 2018, 05:36:08 AM
I voted and 80% of voters agree with me that BTC will still be here in 10 years.
Not only will it still be here, but those who have HODL on that long will be wealthy.

I cannot imagine how much the price will be in 10 years later and if the price is really expensive, then we can be rich but it's only for people which could hold their bitcoin on that long time. bitcoin will stay for a long time and will help many people which want to have a better life and bitcoin will survive in the hardest situation like now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: reverseflash on May 25, 2018, 05:49:20 AM
It is too much influencing factors to answer unambiguously. The situation can change within a month with one on opposite.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: tunapa on May 25, 2018, 05:51:33 AM
I am confident that Bitcoin will still be here in the next 10 years. I believe modifications will be done to bitcoin to solve all the highlighted problems above and for this reason, I don't see any coin displacing Bitcoin from being no 1. Truly a lot of coins have emerged and have tried to solve one major problem or the other even coin that are forked out of Bitcoin , the fact remains still that Bitcoin is the king and it will remain the king.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: faizzeybutt786 on May 25, 2018, 07:01:18 AM
i dnt think so its true this time bitcoin is in trouble or bad face but its not sure it will be dstroy easily big investors and busniess man are invovled on it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: evilgreed on May 25, 2018, 07:07:41 AM
I voted and 80% of voters agree with me that BTC will still be here in 10 years.
Not only will it still be here, but those who have HODL on that long will be wealthy.

I cannot imagine how much the price will be in 10 years later and if the price is really expensive, then we can be rich but it's only for people which could hold their bitcoin on that long time. bitcoin will stay for a long time and will help many people which want to have a better life and bitcoin will survive in the hardest situation like now.



                           It would probably cost thousands of dollars or maybe more. Even as of now we could already see how much high it gets, but let us just assume nothing is for sure, but when we look at its increasing rate over the past years, we could also assume that its rise is also consistent. So this means after few more years most holders of bitcoin will be living on their wildest dreams.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: coinriver on May 25, 2018, 08:51:24 AM
Bitcoin will survive in the next 10 years. Bitcoin has been developing for more than ten years and will not easily fail.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Chicryptomama on May 25, 2018, 10:07:54 AM
The world is evolving so are other digital assets.Whether it will live or not is difficult to predict but for sure bitcoin will face several more years of turbulence before the token stabilizes as a legitimate commodity cause it will definitely be hindered by very intense government regulations from some countries but till then let's all be hopeful. So my vote will be not sure.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: worldsuccess01 on May 25, 2018, 10:17:39 AM
Its a big chances bitcoin wont live to see the next years because of their imortality and popularity that all the investors caanot be fear in her capital to invest.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Melody2 on May 25, 2018, 10:48:15 AM
Some 9 years ago, many developers also reasoned that Bitcoin was not meant to last long. In fact, if they were told that BTC would be this prominent in 2018, they'd have laughed their heads off. But look at where we are today. Bitcoin will survive. And you will come back to this post after ten years to laugh at your ignorance.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Jimmymoriarty on May 25, 2018, 10:59:02 AM
I have to disagree. Bitcoin has been here for the longest time. Of course it will last for another decade. The real question is if it will still remain as the number one Crypto coin. The future is unpredictable. In the next 10 years,many new developers with new and innovative coins may come into picture and any one of them may sky rocket and shock us all. Everything is uncertain in this industry but there is a decent amount of chance that Bitcoin will always be on top. As for your question, Bitcoin is here to stay my friend.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Msworld83 on May 25, 2018, 11:14:22 AM
I will say YES, even beyond that cos it remain the king and will always be but it's dominant in % of market cap might reduce over the year ,simply because of so many coin emerging now which has give room to sharing of the cap among them all but btc will remain the king has the source of the blockchain technology and cryptocurrency at large.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Choyor on May 25, 2018, 11:21:19 AM
Here we just speculate, nobody ever knows how the fate of Bitcoin in the future, it is currently Bitcoin is downtrend, but I have confidence if Bitcoin will always be there in the next 10 years, because Bitcoin is designed to be able to last.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: lonlonmarlon on May 26, 2018, 09:29:41 AM
we dont know if bitcoin is won't live to the next 10 years if we have a news that a surely the bitcoin is won't live in the next 10 years that's my opinion.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: chidrawarster on May 26, 2018, 10:00:47 AM
I would be honest speaking this out.I agree many of us here are btc supporters and also investors as well.We do not know what updated is gonna come in the near future , so no idea whats going to be the popular one post 10 years. I would just look at the next 2 years down the line and see what btc does whether the price remains in the same zone or goes beyond 20k mark .We have to just wait and watch whats going to happen in the future,thats the only option we have as of now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: royalparade01 on May 26, 2018, 10:02:31 AM
I won't be voting on this as I don't know what is gonna happen in future. Any predictions will solely be just on analysis and assumptions.
There is nothing to be worried about Bitcoin because it's just a crypto currency as the others. If at all Bitcoin gets faded away there will be other coins which will take it's place in the market. Crypto currency will have its dominance in the market and that is all it matters. As long as people believe in crypto currencies the dominance will be there and things will keep going on.

Bitcoin will live another more ten years


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: yvuj101 on May 26, 2018, 10:17:18 AM
I won't be voting on this as I don't know what is gonna happen in future. Any predictions will solely be just on analysis and assumptions.
There is nothing to be worried about Bitcoin because it's just a crypto currency as the others. If at all Bitcoin gets faded away there will be other coins which will take it's place in the market. Crypto currency will have its dominance in the market and that is all it matters. As long as people believe in crypto currencies the dominance will be there and things will keep going on.


I see more challenges in crypto curriencies, Bitcoin have more strength to live and there are many investors like to invest more than they wants


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: MCM10 on May 26, 2018, 10:22:49 AM
I think if this Bitcoin in the future will always grow for the better, because from Bitcoin is a clear evidence of a changing era of digital technology that we will face and we use in the future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Catch-22 on May 26, 2018, 11:19:41 AM
I voted yes. Because eight years ago, people also said the same thing. Bitcoin will still be the cryptocurrency king after a decade and it’s definitely mainstream by then.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: maydna on May 26, 2018, 01:37:46 PM
I voted yes. Because eight years ago, people also said the same thing. Bitcoin will still be the cryptocurrency king after a decade and it’s definitely mainstream by then.

and now, people seeing bitcoin still grow and even it increases in the highest price although today the price does not increase higher, it still higher if we compare with eight years ago. bitcoin and especially blockchain technology is a new technology which gives easy and simple for the people to make a transaction and the transaction will be protected in the network without any third party can disturb. and it will bring a new vision for people which open their eyes that the technologies always develop and grow among us.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: allohha on May 26, 2018, 09:19:13 PM
I think if this Bitcoin in the future will always grow for the better, because from Bitcoin is a clear evidence of a changing era of digital technology that we will face and we use in the future.
I would very much like to believe in it, because today it is really impossible to use crypto currency. And all because the majority of the world's population is not ready for such changes.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: whaawh on May 26, 2018, 09:31:59 PM
I think if this Bitcoin in the future will always grow for the better, because from Bitcoin is a clear evidence of a changing era of digital technology that we will face and we use in the future.
I would very much like to believe in it, because today it is really impossible to use crypto currency. And all because the majority of the world's population is not ready for such changes.
perhaps a new generation will come, for which the use of crypto currency as a means of payment every day will be commonplace. Of course, today, old people and children will not be able to use Bitcoin and other crypto currency, because for this it is necessary to have not only knowledge, but also technical capabilities.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: djgtr on May 27, 2018, 04:40:19 AM
I think if this Bitcoin in the future will always grow for the better, because from Bitcoin is a clear evidence of a changing era of digital technology that we will face and we use in the future.
I would very much like to believe in it, because today it is really impossible to use crypto currency. And all because the majority of the world's population is not ready for such changes.

Indeed the people around the world isn't ready yet for the change of money spending diverted to digital currency, but the possibility has it great advantages in terms of profitable aspects. But don't be too negative for the next 10 years bitcoin still evolve because it has a huge potential that its value will become much worthy of our holdings.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Nick Abimanyu on May 27, 2018, 06:03:48 AM
IMO with the emergence of new alternate coins every day, it's a way/solution so that bitcoin can last a long time and funds from bitcoin users, are expected to be shared to some other coins. Unfortunately, the popularity of bitcoin is remarkable so a lot of bitcoin users who ignore the appearance of new coins they insist on sticking to their stance namely by way of Hold and Buy (for those with enough money).


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: MiXxe on May 27, 2018, 10:59:09 AM
I think if this Bitcoin in the future will always grow for the better, because from Bitcoin is a clear evidence of a changing era of digital technology that we will face and we use in the future.
I would very much like to believe in it, because today it is really impossible to use crypto currency. And all because the majority of the world's population is not ready for such changes.


If will try to foresee the future of bitcoin after 10years, we need to do it step by step. Let us relate the current situation and the possible future of the macro and micro factors of bitcoin.
For instance, let us try to foresee the future plans of banks and technological systems.  Hence I know that bitcoin will be much in demand in the future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Vinalians on May 27, 2018, 12:58:53 PM
It is obvious that almost all of the people who voted in this poll are positively voted for the existent of bitcoin in the next 10 years even there are many hard forks happening in this year. We can't say that BTC will not live in the next 10 years without having evidence.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: DjTremor on May 27, 2018, 01:22:18 PM
It is obvious that almost all of the people who voted in this poll are positively voted for the existent of bitcoin in the next 10 years even there are many hard forks happening in this year. We can't say that BTC will not live in the next 10 years without having evidence.

Bitcoin is close to complete its 10 years from the very beginning of the story. Then it's not a rocket science for bitcoin to survive dozens of years. It will keep existing in the world with great developments!


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: mozers on July 04, 2018, 06:07:12 PM
I believe that the world changes very quickly in 10 years, so maybe the bitcoin no longer exists. However, I think the blockchain technology continues to grow strongly, and will become a part of our lives, just like the internet.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: rocoloko on August 12, 2018, 09:02:06 AM
I believe that the world changes very quickly in 10 years, so maybe the bitcoin no longer exists. However, I think the blockchain technology continues to grow strongly, and will become a part of our lives, just like the internet.

In 10 years bitcoin will be worth not less than $100k, that's for sure  8)


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: cold cool on August 12, 2018, 03:37:18 PM
Ten years may indeed be less than that, but the BTC should not die within five years. The BTC may experience two more drops in production.



Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: rocoloko on August 19, 2018, 07:41:43 AM
Ten years may indeed be less than that, but the BTC should not die within five years. The BTC may experience two more drops in production.



Why do you think it will be two drops?


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: marcbitcoins on August 19, 2018, 08:18:38 AM
Quick Disclaimer:
1. I'm not here to support any shitcoin.
2. We're all gathered here because of bitcoin, so it's hard for me to see it fading way.

Bitcoin was designed not be fully anonymous since transactions were open permanently for the public to view.
Authorities and security agencies were able to trace the bitcoin owners based metadata and transaction pattern, history and so on.

Some developers understand this issue and they go ahead to create some new altcoins which they are fully anonymous by implementing new hashing algorithms on their very new altcoins such as Dash, Monero, Zcash and Zcoin.

So why the bitcoin "hard fork" instead of updating the original bitcoin core?
Forked coins like BitcoinCash & BitcoinGold are moving from ASICs to GPU mining for faster transactions, why not BTC?
Why not update bitcoin mining algorithm to Equihash (zk-snarks) like Zcash and the next upcoming Bitcoin Gold BTG?  

Instead of updating the original bitcoin core to have more secure and fast transactions with lower xt fee, yet making hard forks!
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
 
What do you think, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks :)

Indeed, there are lot of development for these Alcoins that may affect Bitcoin transactions but the question is that in spite of the progress with these altcoins then why the people still choose to invest Bitcoin than these Altcoins? as we continue to see in the market the huge price and performance gap against these Altcoins. For me, Bitcoin will still exist after 10 years specially that these altcoins are also much affected than Bitcoin during this bearish market. That is why i voted yes too.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: South Park on August 19, 2018, 06:02:34 PM
Quick Disclaimer:
1. I'm not here to support any shitcoin.
2. We're all gathered here because of bitcoin, so it's hard for me to see it fading way.

Bitcoin was designed not be fully anonymous since transactions were open permanently for the public to view.
Authorities and security agencies were able to trace the bitcoin owners based metadata and transaction pattern, history and so on.

Some developers understand this issue and they go ahead to create some new altcoins which they are fully anonymous by implementing new hashing algorithms on their very new altcoins such as Dash, Monero, Zcash and Zcoin.

So why the bitcoin "hard fork" instead of updating the original bitcoin core?
Forked coins like BitcoinCash & BitcoinGold are moving from ASICs to GPU mining for faster transactions, why not BTC?
Why not update bitcoin mining algorithm to Equihash (zk-snarks) like Zcash and the next upcoming Bitcoin Gold BTG? 

Instead of updating the original bitcoin core to have more secure and fast transactions with lower xt fee, yet making hard forks!
I think hard forks will soon kill the original bitcoin.
 
What do you think, huh? Share with us what you think. thanks :)
Time has passed and the prediction has turn out to be not true as many people speculated, those forks have not merit and are just a bunch of copies trying to make money out of the bitcoin name and nothing more, if those developers want to make a name for themselves they will have to do it the hard way like satoshi did it, so lets make this clear no fork of bitcoin is going to surpass the original.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: liseff3 on August 19, 2018, 09:59:31 PM
Voted 'yes'. I presume Bitcoin will still be around in 10 years but probably won't be the leading coin in the world of cryptocurrencies anymore. It is getting outdated as you sort of mention in the OP and other, better performing altcoins are already emerging rapidly. BTC dominance in the total market capitalization is 49% nowadays, a huge drop compared to the 80 - 90% we've seen up until march this year.

We only know that prediction never exists which's accurate.
Of course bitcoin will be obsolete, but obsolete due to age.
 With the end of bitcoin, the effect will affect other currencies, namely Altcoin.
Altcoin's predicted to be obsolete too accompanying its obsolescence the bitcoin currency.
As we know, so far bitcoin has been the only pioneer or shield of all cryptocurrency defense which's spread in the market. What happens if bitcoin is obsolete?.....


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Soots on August 19, 2018, 10:48:37 PM
Voted 'yes'. I presume Bitcoin will still be around in 10 years but probably won't be the leading coin in the world of cryptocurrencies anymore. It is getting outdated as you sort of mention in the OP and other, better performing altcoins are already emerging rapidly. BTC dominance in the total market capitalization is 49% nowadays, a huge drop compared to the 80 - 90% we've seen up until march this year.

We only know that prediction never exists which's accurate.
Of course bitcoin will be obsolete, but obsolete due to age.
 With the end of bitcoin, the effect will affect other currencies, namely Altcoin.
Altcoin's predicted to be obsolete too accompanying its obsolescence the bitcoin currency.
As we know, so far bitcoin has been the only pioneer or shield of all cryptocurrency defense which's spread in the market. What happens if bitcoin is obsolete?.....

Bitcoin will stay stronger and will dominate the entire cryptocurrency, and we need not to worry about what the future 10 years will bring forth. For my positive visions it will be infintely gathering more followers, and there will be no limits for it's capabilities. Bitcoin demand will continue to provide every people the opportunity to have their freedom for financial needs. The entire community depends with it, so always trust on bitcoin and keep a strong faith.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: goaldigger on August 20, 2018, 11:54:41 AM
It will last for more years because its still our lead crypto for this time. If people would keep on losing confidence about bitcoin , its existence will be limmited for a year or two. Words are so powerful it can take down the leader in just a short period of time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Meowth05 on August 20, 2018, 02:16:14 PM
Well it is hard to tell since bitcoin is unpredictable but I will be optimistic because being a negative has no good effect. I think bitcoin will last more than we could imagine because as long as the community is here bitcoin will not vanish. Besides, bitcoin is just starting and there's a lot of things we could might encounter so keep believing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: South Park on August 22, 2018, 10:44:28 PM
Well it is hard to tell since bitcoin is unpredictable but I will be optimistic because being a negative has no good effect. I think bitcoin will last more than we could imagine because as long as the community is here bitcoin will not vanish. Besides, bitcoin is just starting and there's a lot of things we could might encounter so keep believing.
Many present doubts about the long term existence of bitcoin but I have never seen a person giving an argument of why they think it is going to disappear, even if bitcoin is banned that will only mean that bitcoin will be illegal and yet there are many things that are illegal and that do not disappear, besides I really doubt that bitcoin will be made illegal all over the world since bitcoin is not something that damages people, so many persons will begin to ask questions about why something like bitcoin is banned.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: rocoloko on August 26, 2018, 08:10:22 AM
Bitcoin will be alive and kicking for more years that we can even imagine  8)


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: boty on August 26, 2018, 09:53:11 AM
I think it's uncertain because none of this will know bitcoin in the next 10 years or in the future still exists or not but you need to know that the future of digital technology will be created.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: ELOCIN on August 27, 2018, 03:08:47 AM
How can you be sure if bitcoin will never exists anymore in the next 10 years? Remember that bitcoin has already spread throughout the world like a virus, bringing good news and uplifting the economic growth of those countries who had embraced the said technology.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Ngewex Yuk on August 27, 2018, 03:14:51 AM
If this year bitcoin prices can't reach at least $ 10,000 then I'm sure that in 2019 bitcoin prices will drop below $ 1000, and I agree that in 10 years we can't see bitcoin anymore because it's useless.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: putrisa on August 27, 2018, 04:18:59 AM
I don't think that is true and there will be no one who will know how to develop the price of bitcoin, but all you have to remember is that the more the year, technology will grow and many will use digital currencies like bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Abu Shadow on August 28, 2018, 03:11:50 PM
It's a big yes for me with the increasing popularity of bitcoin this will become the expensive digital assets in the cryptocurrency. Although the purpose of being a currency for digital payments will not materialize due to some issues against the transactions time and volatile price but being a storage assets will be the main target of those investors that they keep holding their bitcoin for the future.     


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: Barbarian on August 29, 2018, 01:31:16 AM
Many people have said something similar in the past and yet it has not happened, if it was that easy to replace bitcoin then it should have happened already don't you think? The fact that it has not happened tells me that it is probably never going to happen, and in my opinion that is a good thing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: pocketfullofpoke on August 29, 2018, 04:37:16 AM
If that is the case, then the prediction of crypto experts are wrong that bitcoin will have its highest market cap and price in the next 10 years. But anyway, nobody really knows exactly what lies ahead in the next 10 years but if we base the situation today going through the next 10 years, all i can say is that bitcoin will still reign in the cryptoworld.


Title: Re: Bitcoin won't live to see the next 10 years
Post by: iMark on August 29, 2018, 06:36:14 AM
How can you be sure if bitcoin will never exists anymore in the next 10 years? Remember that bitcoin has already spread throughout the world like a virus, bringing good news and uplifting the economic growth of those countries who had embraced the said technology.
I think it is just their speculation, he is free to argue like that but what he said was different from reality. you're right bitcoin is increasingly spreading and getting popular and that is the key to the development and life of bitcoin, from that we believe that bitcoin will continue to survive