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Title: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: FinShaggy on June 03, 2013, 04:36:34 PM The old Bitcoin Town thread ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=216139.0 ) got cluttered (over 30 pages, with tons of trolling). So I think it's about time to start a new one.
(This is only 1/6 of the towns plans, more will be posted over this month) http://makeameme.org/media/created/Bitcoin-Town-Or.jpg The mission of the town is: Freedom, as guaranteed by the constitution of America Plans are to have a size of land between 600 acres and 6000+ acres by sometime in 2015 Due to recent happenings. Bitcoin town will work to protect, promote & repair the mental health of any willing citizens: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=222772.msg2341610#msg2341610 And we will work to be at the forefront of Neurogenesis and Synaptogenesis research. Promotes Neural Repair Vitamin C Folic Acid B6 & B12 Vitamin E Ginger Omega 3 Promotes Neurogenesis CBD/CBN MAOIs (Syrian Rue, Anti-Depressants, etc) Flavonoids(Blueberries, Chocolate, etc) EGCG(Green Tea) Ashitaba Piracetam and other AMPAs Promotes General Brain Health Coconut Oil Raw Cannabis Leaf Juice Promotes general brain health, and helps in the process of Neurogenesis Zinc Vitamin A Helps things cross the blood brain barrier Mangos Other projects that will be completed before, and/or inside Bitcoin Town: Bitcoin Restaurant: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=217610.0 Bitcoin TV Show: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212562.0 Bitcoin Church/Charity: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=213405.0 Bitcoin Casino: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=218497.msg2297533#msg2297533 Bitcoin Philanthropist Awards: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=213699.0 Solar Powered Mining: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189959.0;topicseen Bitcoin Museum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=219474.msg2310946#msg2310946 Bitcoin Junk-Yard: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=220452.msg2321320#msg2321320 Scare-C'Robots: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=220485.msg2321722#msg2321722 Bitcoin Farm: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=220511.msg2322171#msg2322171 All you need to start a town is 51% of the people's vote, and a written constitution or some other founding document. If we invest in our own town we can be the founders, and with BTC it will make it easier for us to come together from around the world to get this done. As well as not worry about paying taxes as long as we don't exchange cash (we have a way to do this that will be explained only to people who are very interested in supporting the town). And we could have the elected town leaders & business hubs pay federal taxes and do all our fiat exchanges for us, so that our "no tax town" system is viable. And you only need 6 acres of people to agree... So I looked online and there are patches of land that are 600 acres (nearly 1 square mile. As well as much larger plots.) for sale in New Mexico. If 200 people each put in $10,000 (or equivalent in BTC) the property would be ours (I think this could be accomplished in 1 year). And at that point we could start using the land to farm and produce things and anyone who could afford a house or an Earthship could start building, while anyone else can rent their land out to earn money, or sell it (we will all come together and vote on what the land can and cannot be used for during this time) and once we have some communal money we can help people build Earthships and start working on Solar power and getting a super solid internet connection. Then we could start building FPGAs and ASICs, while we farm and produce what we can. I feel New Mexico would be the best place to start something like this for a few reasons: 1. Billy the Kid ran out the Illuminati by starting a war against the corrupt "Justice System" where the people were literally shooting at cops. 2. the Freemasons messed up with their farming methods which was the reason for the "dust bowl". So all the people that would oppose Bitcoin are gone (central bankers and such). 3. Land is cheap in New Mexico. 4. It is a good place for affordable "Earthship" living, and could easily accommodate regular housing as well. 5. Tons of sun all year round, so we could try to start the community with some solar power, and work towards making it all solar powered. And anyone who wanted to farm could. 6. In New Mexico you don't have to pay taxes on most food trade anyways. Once the town got started we would buy a some tractors, and use them to build better roads and farm better. Then we can start opening gift shops and things like that, and eventually work on starting our own franchises, or bringing a few to town and accepting bitcoin. But we could make it a town where no one pays taxes, and the "town government" is nothing but a service. Most Important Videos: First installment of "Bitcoin Town": Creating a Town in America http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZsLLFROucc First Things First http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO9GcWoWszA Local Politics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-KokfEoQPU Biodiesel & Transportation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up81asdoMzY TV Show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA4HrOXRFbk Seed Stock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX5Sekntejo Library & Education http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SITdDb1Pe8g EarthShips http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqVvA9L-Dvo Biodiesel & Solar Power http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wp3aEV7e1Q Restaurant Franchise http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxuPoed0H7E Voting System http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqZwR9Wsdkk 3D Printers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEJQLNUdKIA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LBDt3EnVtk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HJiEEkmKxc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v5zWoh5Vsw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cMwo8nSYT4 Giant Reed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUiy4s_6QVU Phalaris (Canary Reed): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvL6zJL8Mj8 Museum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUQ7B3jjJw4 Shepherds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDP3O1ZKZxk Sugar Farm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qstu6bdzq74 Other Videos About Bitcoin Town: New Mexico http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbEsxT2VI5E The Arts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_eBNgQIaKc The Police http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFKG3Anr9JM The Island http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-fgf0bxSSg Robots http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmhwLaWeSTA Casino http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIdkXH8B7SI Water & Distilling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnD-hDk0iWc Cubensis Mushrooms http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJWvPp7wXvM Everyone Gets a Vote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiE4mkHBM68 Medical Marijuana http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XqENZnp8c4 Creation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5nZc_9sRl8 Individual Freedoms http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_TtkJ6Jk9U Radio Shows http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzPWECBcAKI Junk Yard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaB8mxsOzfk PAC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dns38YgbbyQ Hatchery http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzJn0XwdxDM Corn Farmers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwzmrM-kiAc San Pedro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OARwy1o5x3s Pets http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQPCsXmy5pc Public Cars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JigHbf5vea8 Sweat Lodge: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zpxmIvMJ_E Hot Sauce: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwATcHZ1UX8 Datura: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWwR4Jit37E Land we are looking at for Bitcoin Town: (Raton is growing and is the border between NM and CO) http://www.landwatch.com/Colfax-County-New-Mexico-Farms-and-Ranches-for-sale/pid/200006696 http://www.landwatch.com/Colfax-County-New-Mexico-Farms-and-Ranches-for-sale/pid/204797813 http://www.landwatch.com/Rio-Arriba-County-New-Mexico-Farms-and-Ranches-for-sale/pid/204662804 http://www.landwatch.com/Socorro-County-New-Mexico-Farms-and-Ranches-for-sale/pid/204880355 http://www.landwatch.com/Rio-Arriba-County-New-Mexico-Land-for-sale/pid/204987828 http://www.landwatch.com/Socorro-County-New-Mexico-Land-for-sale/pid/205046992 http://www.landwatch.com/Harding-County-New-Mexico-Farms-and-Ranches-for-sale/pid/204932389 http://www.landwatch.com/Rio-Arriba-County-New-Mexico-Land-for-sale/pid/204953740 http://www.landwatch.com/Curry-County-New-Mexico-Farms-and-Ranches-for-sale/pid/200104554 http://www.landwatch.com/De-Baca-County-New-Mexico-Farms-and-Ranches-for-sale/pid/200104617 http://www.landwatch.com/Rio-Arriba-County-New-Mexico-Farms-and-Ranches-for-sale/pid/221532863 http://www.landwatch.com/Quay-County-New-Mexico-Farms-and-Ranches-for-sale/pid/200104553 http://www.landwatch.com/New-Mexico-Land-for-sale/pid/194000056 http://www.landwatch.com/San-Miguel-County-New-Mexico-Farms-and-Ranches-for-sale/pid/200082432 http://www.landwatch.com/Catron-County-New-Mexico-Farms-and-Ranches-for-sale/pid/257081011 http://www.landwatch.com/Mora-County-New-Mexico-Farms-and-Ranches-for-sale/pid/205058558 http://www.landwatch.com/Socorro-County-New-Mexico-Farms-and-Ranches-for-sale/pid/204953514 http://www.landwatch.com/Rio-Arriba-County-New-Mexico-Farms-and-Ranches-for-sale/pid/204627974 http://www.landwatch.com/Cibola-County-New-Mexico-Farms-and-Ranches-for-sale/pid/200115363 http://www.landwatch.com/Grant-County-New-Mexico-Land-for-sale/pid/260908528 Land we are looking at for the farm before Bitcointown: http://www.landwatch.com/Catron-County-New-Mexico-Land-for-sale/pid/250216071 http://www.landwatch.com/Rio-Arriba-County-New-Mexico-Farms-and-Ranches-for-sale/pid/200338305 http://www.landwatch.com/Catron-County-New-Mexico-Land-for-sale/pid/116598148 http://www.landwatch.com/Sandoval-County-New-Mexico-Farms-and-Ranches-for-sale/pid/204516174 We will be attempting to start a restaurant, so that the town has a good place to eat and food supply ready to move in right when we get there :) If we can't start the restaurant before the town, we will start it IN town once we have a small community. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=217610.msg2288125#msg2288125 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxuPoed0H7E The things that we plan to have on the menu so far are these: Pancakes Eggs/Omelets Burgers (REAL ones, not like McDonalds) Funnel Cake French Fries Carne Asada Burritos (and every other variation of tortilla and contents, which means chips and salsa too) Noodles Sandwhiches A Salad Bar And anyone involved's "specialty" And, we are going to work together with the environment to create the ideal natural living conditions. There will be an eco-council that watches the flora and fauna each year, and they will release a decided number of certain animals and plants, then the next year they will see if anything new needs to be done to balance the eco system. Ex: Buy and eventually breed drangonfly eggs to be released into town ponds, to eat mosquitos and similar pests, while adding to the "enchantment" of New Mexico. Breed and release free-range Guinea Chickens, for eggs. Also for their "watch dog" qualities, as in, Guinea chickens will alert you when someone that is not from the neighborhood, or a new animal is around. They also eat ants, TICKS & spiders. So they are pretty good animals to have around. Put up bat houses to attract bats, as well as bird houses to attract birds. And fruit trees (and cactuses like "saguaro", which grow to be over 50 foot tall and live longer than humans) that grow well in New Mexico (like Pears, Apples & Peaches) to feed them, and so that public workers can collect food to be distributed. Bat guano can also be collected for many uses, including fertilizer. And both animals eat bugs that are pests. We will have a rabbit farm to feed both humans and any pets, while providing fertilizer. This is just a few of the ideas that will be presented in the videos soon, so that we can live in a near perfect eco-system. And we can sell the eggs from the dragonflies and chickens, as well as the guano from the bats and the fruit from the trees, on the internet and at market. For the people that could not afford their own house, this is the kind of house we would be building as public work (public work is for people who need money). They are called EarthShips http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/G2_Global_model_Earthship_Taos_N.M..JPG/300px-G2_Global_model_Earthship_Taos_N.M..JPG http://images.mnn.com/sites/default/files/user-36/earthship.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Brighton_Earthship.JPG http://pbt1920.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/earthship-sustainable-housing-18.jpg The outline of an Earthship is made with old tires for insulation. The tires are framed with wood, and filled with concrete, some people fill the tires with soda cans or dirt, then concrete. Then some people put soda cans on the outside of the tires in the concrete also. http://explore.theskillery.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Earthship-build.jpg http://www.practicalenvironmentalist.com/earthships.jpg http://theblondecoyote.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/p3221514.jpg There are many benefits of Earthship living http://www.daviddarling.info/images2/earthship_design.jpg http://www.gaiaengineering.com/images/graphics/biomimicry-geomimicry/EarthshipBrighton26Dec06.jpg http://media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2011/10/casa-llanta-earthship-in-nicaragua.jpg We will also offer publicly built Geodomes for greenhouses and living. http://www.colourbox.com/preview/4966674-989653-geodome.jpg http://www.unconditional.co.nz/helping-hand/files/2009/04/geodesic-dome-home.jpg http://earthshelters.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/geodome_current_gazebo.jpg We will also offer trailers to bury and use as basements, or use above ground as housing: http://2-ps.googleusercontent.com/x/www.trendhunter.com/cdn.trendhunterstatic.com/thumbs/xsunset-breezehouse-prefab-home-i-wish-i-lived-in-your-trailer-park.jpeg.pagespeed.ic.9HtpUZU66V.jpg http://www.mondinion.com/pictures/hash134/1435270-8.jpg We will also add "cobb" extentions to each house, using what we dig up when making basements. Cob is fire & Earthquake resistant. Earthships are built east to west, with the glass facing the sun rise, and usually they try to use the dirt to make a small hill facing the sunset, which is where the rainwater collection chamber usually is. But reading about Cob material, I'm thinking we can just use the sandy ground in New Mexico, dig until we hit clay or buy some, then grow some canary reed to use as straw (grows very quickly). Then just add water and we can make an extension to each house, instead of a hill facing the sunset. It will be practical, because we plan on getting trailers to bury and use as basements (so everyone has room for mining machines), so we will probably get a backhoe to dig holes, and will have plenty of raw dirt/sand. People could also choose to have no Earthship, but it would be good to have at least one room designed like an Earthship, just because they are like massively insulative, so if there were ever a rare cold New Mexico day, a small fire could be made (or small heater plugged in) and heat the room effectively. http://tinyhouseblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/cob1.jpg http://naturalhomes.org/img/cob.home.porch.jpg http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb0t69DJfv1qb2gpho1_500.jpg http://www.thiscobhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/cob-home-living-roof.jpg We will also use Adobe to make cheap, sturdy frames for the houses. It is similar to cob, and cob can be used as mortar and on the outside and inside to make the walls flat. And our EarthShips will be different than most:https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Milyanfan-adobe-bricks-8038.jpg/220px-Milyanfan-adobe-bricks-8038.jpg http://www.sdrp.org/images/sikes/august2003-image001.jpg http://www.claymineadobe.com/images/mortar2.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/AdobeSurfaceCoatingRenewalOnWall.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/San_Pedro_de_Atacama_church.jpg 1. Each person will have at least three acres, so we won't be making small ones. 2. Geodomes outside will be used as green houses, making more room in the larger EarthShips 3. Trailers will be used to make basements, allowing for WAY more space. And again, an outside company will be contracted for regular building, these will just be built for anyone that wants publically built housing. You only get a Cobb/Earthship/Geodome if you want a FREE house :) The free market will still be there. "Town work" will just be posted on bulletin boards or the internet, the whole point is just to have the town approve it so that the workers are paid by the town (if you can't afford to hire your own people), and people in town can earn some money. Some people won't be moving to the land they buy, so we will have some plots that are rented out for maintenance or cash (by people that want to live in town but can't afford $10,000 for a plot, or by young people who get their parents to get them a place in town or something) by the owner, and those people will most likely be looking to the bulletin boards for work all the time. And if you wanted to hire someone yourself from around town, that wouldn't be a problem at all. As long as you paid them with your money. Also, we will be digging wells all over the land, so everyone cross your fingers for oil when we're looking for water. And we have a professional dowser who can find water for us Smiley As well as a Geologist/Engineer who could tell us if oil is possibly nearby, and appraise any minerals we find Smiley Other Websites talking about Bitcoin Town: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18350156 http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2BWsaJ60R2RpWZYQu_YrbA6XgFEExmeC http://www.rollitup.org/hallucinatory-substances/662396-town-where-shrooms-legal-extent.html#post9151727 http://theyoutubecommunity.com/forums/index.php?/topic/8740-a-town-for-youtubers/ http://boards.adultswim.com/t5/Incoherent-Babbling/I-m-Starting-My-Own-Town/m-p/68134103#U68134103 http://forum.themonastery.org/index.php?showtopic=7536 http://www.politicalforum.com/latest-us-world-news/305466-new-town-coming-new-mexico.html#post1062693407 http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/678550-The-Town-Where-Mushrooms-are-Legal?p=11601399#post11601399 Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: cryptoanarchist on June 03, 2013, 04:38:40 PM I'm for something like the Free State Project, but out west.
Unfortunately, the OP sounds more interested in trying to creating his own little statist kingdom. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: FinShaggy on June 03, 2013, 04:52:14 PM Is that the longest OP ever? Anyway, I think we could model it after the Free State Project, with more focus on generating an economy. What is the free state project? Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: EndTheFed321 on June 03, 2013, 05:05:05 PM Here is the free state project and 101 Reasons Why you should Move to New Hampshire
http://freestateproject.org/101Reasons who would handle the funds? and will you take bitcoin for the project? Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: FinShaggy on June 03, 2013, 06:20:03 PM Here is the free state project and 101 Reasons Why you should Move to New Hampshire http://freestateproject.org/101Reasons who would handle the funds? and will you take bitcoin for the project? We would have a town government to handle any necessary funds, but everything gets voted on my everyone. And yes bitcoin would be accepted. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: J35st3r on June 03, 2013, 07:21:20 PM Cool, very pretty. Unfortunately I'm in Blighty so I doubt if I'll get a visa to come and live there. Best of luck anyways!
Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: peonminer on June 03, 2013, 08:04:08 PM Move this all to TX or CO and i'm in ^_^
Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: stayeduptolate on June 03, 2013, 08:28:20 PM very cool and interesting CO would be nice!
Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: franky1 on June 03, 2013, 08:29:51 PM What is the free state project? proof you don't have a clue about fundamentals required, or gone deeper into research apart from page one google searches of final designs for buildings. its good you show final design eco houses but you have no clue about land permits, laws, utility company, sewerage requirements of a town. this is not a troll, you just hate seeing everyone see through your lack of credibility and think ignoring people and starting a new thread will somehow make people believe you more. 200 scientists this time concentrating on Neurogenesis and Synaptogenesis research. last time it was 200 creative people like entrepreneurs, writers, artists, programmers. still ignoring the fundamentals of requiring shop workers, chef's for your restaurant.. oops i mean fast food establishment... oops i mean cyber cafe.. repairmen, electricians, plumbers, carpenters, construction workers, police, lawyers, judges, teachers. oh and if 200 are now scientists instead of creative people.. that is still the personality type not desiring manual labour. so don't pull the wool over peoples eyes that the 200 people will do it all themselves. as they have their own scientific interests that come first. stop brain farting wet dreams. and stand away from the computer for just one day. and construct your idea's from behind the scenes of the fundamentals.. and stop spouting out the glittering neon signs of the final design. many have told you about freestate project before yet you ignore it. Quote We would have a town government now the utopian dream of last week of a free town is now just another town like all the rest Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: Inedible on June 03, 2013, 08:37:57 PM What is the free state project? proof you don't have a clue about fundamentals required, or gone deeper into research apart from page one google searches of final designs for buildings. its good you show final design eco houses but you have no clue about land permits, laws, utility company, sewerage requirements of a town. this is not a troll, you just hate seeing everyone see through your lack of credibility and think ignoring people and starting a new thread will somehow make people believe you more. 200 scientists this time concentrating on Neurogenesis and Synaptogenesis research. last time it was 200 creative people like entrepreneurs, writers, artists, programmers. still ignoring the fundamentals of requiring shop workers, chef's for your restaurant.. oops i mean fast food establishment... oops i mean cyber cafe.. repairmen, electricians, plumbers, carpenters, construction workers, police, lawyers, judges, teachers. oh and if 200 are now scientists instead of creative people.. that is still the personality type not desiring manual labour. so don't pull the wool over peoples eyes that the 200 people will do it all themselves. as they have their own scientific interests that come first. stop brain farting wet dreams. and stand away from the computer for just one day. and construct your idea's from behind the scenes of the fundamentals.. and stop spouting out the glittering neon signs of the final design. many have told you about freestate project before yet you ignore it. Quote We would have a town government now the utopian dream of last week of a free town is now just another town like all the rest You make some great points. The energy and excitement is all very good for driving the project but as frank1 points out, it's missing a lot of social, economic and legal sophistication suggesting a degree of naivety. If you built a team of people to support your project you'd get much further. Maybe a lawyer, a sociologist, an architect, nutritionist, a farmer etc. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: DarkLight72 on June 03, 2013, 08:56:16 PM CO is the LAST PLACE ON EARTH I would want to move...for various and sundry reasons. Look at what the state government has recently passed if you don't already know.
A town of 200 isn't going to cut it, period. It's going to be far larger than that and 600 acres isn't a dent in what you are going to need. You're going to need 5-6000 MOTIVATED people to give the finger to the US/State government and pull a Galt's Gulch (read Atlas Shrugged) to pull this off, minimum and doing it all via bitcoin isn't going to work unless they were ALL early adopters or were independently wealthy to start with. Sorry, again, not a troll but trying to give you an idea of what REALLY needs to be done to make this happen. Even the earth architecture takes non-recyclables that cost a LOT of...something to get going. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: shantee on June 04, 2013, 12:24:46 PM I am not sure I understood that post but ...I 'd love to be a Hobbit like you!!!
Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: cryptoanarchist on June 04, 2013, 02:59:20 PM CO is the LAST PLACE ON EARTH I would want to move...for various and sundry reasons. Look at what the state government has recently passed if you don't already know. A town of 200 isn't going to cut it, period. It's going to be far larger than that and 600 acres isn't a dent in what you are going to need. You're going to need 5-6000 MOTIVATED people to give the finger to the US/State government and pull a Galt's Gulch (read Atlas Shrugged) to pull this off, minimum and doing it all via bitcoin isn't going to work unless they were ALL early adopters or were independently wealthy to start with. Sorry, again, not a troll but trying to give you an idea of what REALLY needs to be done to make this happen. Even the earth architecture takes non-recyclables that cost a LOT of...something to get going. Maybe the OP doesn't, but the Free State Project already exists in NH, and has made a big difference. I think a small town in the San Juan mountains of Colorado would be a great place to do a "western FSP". Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: adamstgBit on June 04, 2013, 03:14:44 PM not bad looking EarthShips, owning the best looking / functioning earthship in bitcoin town, is probably going to be a good investment :D
Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: Bytas on June 04, 2013, 03:59:04 PM I stopped reading when i saw this at the start of your post:
"Due to recent happenings. Bitcoin town will work to protect, promote & repair the mental health of any willing citizens:" Why are you talking about details that have nothing to do with building/ organising a bitcoin town? I am completely uninterested in any 3rd party that feels the need to "repair my mental health", and i don't think that should be the primary focus of anyone that wants to start a "bitcoin" town. If you are serious about this, start with general plans about your economy, what special measures you would take to make your town bitcoin friendly and look for a bunch of people that are interested in the idea. Hell, even the shape of the houses you will be building is not important at the moment. Not everyone wants to live in a house made of tyres and glass bottles. Personally, i wouldn't mind, but by mentioning that completely irrelevant detail, you scare away half of your readers. Start with the basics, build a community and evaluate your options. Once you got enough people that are commited to the project, you can start discussing the details, not the other way around. Nice idea, Sloppy execution. ;) Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: Chaoskampf on June 04, 2013, 04:44:56 PM This is probably illegal, and if not, it will be.
Despite this (more like in spite), I think it's an awesome idea, and ultimately the most powerful means for establishing a free society (maybe I'm getting a little carried away?). More people should get involved. I'll send this thread to everyone I know who'd be interested. Cheers! Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: Chaoskampf on June 04, 2013, 05:05:59 PM The whole part about neurogenesis is pretty strange though. Why are you focusing on that as one of the first issues? Also, your list of supplements isn't very well thought out to begin with (I'm actually finishing a bachelors in Neuroscience, and about to start applying to PhD programs). Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: bitcoinanon on June 04, 2013, 05:10:30 PM Fuck the US. why don't we just start a squatters town in BC Canada on Crown Land? England doesn't use or need that land and if someone doesn't develop it, it will be lost to the oil and gas industry. The town could start out small. Like a handful of people starting a farm. Most aspects including government, economics, social infrastructure etc. would have to be discussed locally and decisions could not be made until the town was established and people were actively contributing. There is TONS of water in BC. The land is fertile. Operate under common law, and if disagreements ensued, which they probably will. People will be free to start their own squatter's town.
Something like this does not need to be some giant project that costs a lot of $$$. Think about how long it took BTC to get as big as it has, which is still relatively small. And how small it was when it began. A BTC town will take a while but a GREAT idea nonetheless. As members of the community i think we should continue to keep an open mind about this and the possibilities involved. Thanks OP for the post. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: BladeRunner on June 05, 2013, 09:28:45 AM why a place like NM? how about someplace like this? big plots of land are cheap http://www.hawaiilife.com/mls1/big+island/-tlnd-b4/231304 or this
http://www.hawaiilife.com/mls/251752/ or http://www.hawaiilife.com/mls/251743/ many acres for a bitcoin town, can grow things all year around. never freeze to death. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: Sultan on June 05, 2013, 02:29:01 PM Why do we even have to have Bitcoin Town on land? All land belongs to somebdy.
Why not buy a cruise ship instead? Or one of those seasteading projects? Before anything. The main thing an new town requires is food, then maybe shelter, although food is the priority. Thing is, I find it really interesting to see the contrast of requiring high-speed internet, as well as farms for food. Fahmeed Farooq Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: ontoguzzi on June 05, 2013, 05:56:12 PM I like the idea, but living on ships might be too costly.
Maybe we could pool the money and buy the whole country of Nauru :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nauru Country is broke...we might get a good deal :) Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: EndTheFed321 on June 05, 2013, 06:09:20 PM ontoguzzi,
Good deal you say, we would need a military Army, Navy, Air Force to keep the US or any nation from taking us over calling us Terrorists for not participating in the fiat world ;) Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: TheGovernedSelf on June 05, 2013, 08:33:20 PM not bad looking EarthShips, owning the best looking / functioning earthship in bitcoin town, is probably going to be a good investment :D I never understood the desire to put all of those cans into the walls of Earthships. They have the potential to be beautiful, and not look literally like garbage. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: greyhawk on June 05, 2013, 08:45:06 PM not bad looking EarthShips, owning the best looking / functioning earthship in bitcoin town, is probably going to be a good investment :D I never understood the desire to put all of those cans into the walls of Earthships. They have the potential to be beautiful, and not look literally like garbage. They act as insulators. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: vokain on June 05, 2013, 11:43:11 PM Any room for neuroscience majors :)
Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: bitcoinanon on June 06, 2013, 12:06:39 AM There are thousands of acres of in BC Canada that are owned by the Queen of England....If we squat there drill some wells and plant some trees. Do you really think the Queen is going to bring us an eviction notice or force us off the land with military force? The biggest threat would be the oil and gas industry. ITCCS has already issued an arrest warrant for the Queen of England and the previous Pope Benedict seeking to absolve the Canadian Government and bring them all to trial under Common Law for crimes against humanity. The issue is that people don't have the balls to stand up to these tyrannical institutions or at least the wherewithal to hold them accountable for their actions. The are plenty of resources in Canada and plenty of water and plenty of land. The perfect place for sustainable communities.
In reality no one owns land. You simply settle and develop land. And people with the means and/or force are the ones who usually take advantage of the lands abundance. Fuck bureaucracy, fuck governments, fuck industry. Just go make a healthy living for yourself while you still can. At the bottom i posted just a couple of links. But my wife and I have researched squatters rights, Common Law, ITCCS and Crown Land. Its as real as BTC. Why take out a loan from a bank that doesn't own the land? Why allow all that precious land to go to waste on drilling and industrial development? http://www.whoownstheworld.com/canada (http://www.whoownstheworld.com/canada) http://itccs.org/2013/03/15/international-arrest-warrant-issued-against-pope-francis-i-jorge-mario-bergoglio-for-crimes-against-humanity-and-child-trafficking/ (http://itccs.org/2013/03/15/international-arrest-warrant-issued-against-pope-francis-i-jorge-mario-bergoglio-for-crimes-against-humanity-and-child-trafficking/) Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: maco on June 06, 2013, 12:53:54 AM I like the concept but how can this be trusted? what about security features and anti-theft? computers/laptops/hardware could easily be stolen by undercovers, right?
Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: BladeRunner on June 06, 2013, 01:43:14 AM whats the average temperature there in the winter? how about the summer.. I dont like the idea of living in the permafrost.. anything above the 35th parallel is gonna suck 50%+ of the year.
There are thousands of acres of in BC Canada that are owned by the Queen of England....If we squat there drill some wells and plant some trees. Do you really think the Queen is going to bring us an eviction notice or force us off the land with military force? The biggest threat would be the oil and gas industry. ITCCS has already issued an arrest warrant for the Queen of England and the previous Pope Benedict seeking to absolve the Canadian Government and bring them all to trial under Common Law for crimes against humanity. The issue is that people don't have the balls to stand up to these tyrannical institutions or at least the wherewithal to hold them accountable for their actions. The are plenty of resources in Canada and plenty of water and plenty of land. The perfect place for sustainable communities. In reality no one owns land. You simply settle and develop land. And people with the means and/or force are the ones who usually take advantage of the lands abundance. Fuck bureaucracy, fuck governments, fuck industry. Just go make a healthy living for yourself while you still can. At the bottom i posted just a couple of links. But my wife and I have researched squatters rights, Common Law, ITCCS and Crown Land. Its as real as BTC. Why take out a loan from a bank that doesn't own the land? Why allow all that precious land to go to waste on drilling and industrial development? http://www.whoownstheworld.com/canada http://itccs.org/2013/03/15/international-arrest-warrant-issued-against-pope-francis-i-jorge-mario-bergoglio-for-crimes-against-humanity-and-child-trafficking/ Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: Elwar on June 06, 2013, 02:24:13 AM OP had to duplicate threads because people called him out too much in his other thread on how bad his idea is.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=216139.0 Quote We will be writing a town constitution Quote we will be allowing people to sell or rent out their plots Quote we will be voting on what the land can be used/sold for Quote Anyone with no project plans will be lumped together to make a giant plot to rent out for air balloon landings Quote Housing won't have any restrictions except for height Quote And the person will go to jail, or whatever is decided as punishment Quote a town where no one pays taxes Quote the prison is paid YOUR taxes based on how many beds it fills Quote we could even try to use town funds to buy a private island Quote One of those places should start getting government funding, and start housing families & Veterans. Quote The libraries should have public printing machines to promote free speech. Quote There should also be a publishing program Quote We need to have better welfare for regular citizens and veterans Quote The government needs to provide for those people Quote Computers...everyone should have one no matter how poor. TVs too. Quote You only get a Earthship if you want a FREE house Quote we will eventually build a radio studio in town Quote Exercise programs in the town square every morning. Quote we could get a good educational program going and maybe even start our own university Quote We would eventually get a bus, then start a fleet Quote But once we got enough communal town funds we could work on that. Quote We actually hope to make a local restaurant and turn it into a national franchise Quote we would need a state of the art medical facility Quote The police, health, fire and other government departments should also utilize these programs to earn extra income by creating "cops" like programs, which will also keep them honest since they have viewers. Quote We also hope to open a hatchery, and make a lake if we don't start with one. Quote we need to go to each church and offer them contracts to not be churches any more Quote we find churches that need funding, and pay them to be "community centers" Quote opening a non-denominational church in town Quote This will be the local religion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=213405.0) Quote church employees can get a government salary Quote We will have plenty of local holidays over time Quote There needs to be people that come to every party and bring free food or at least drinks/alcohol Quote You need to gather for a reason, not just because it's the weekend or you want to party Quote all a community has to work towards is developing shops, housing and eventually public buildings Quote I even believe that animals should be liberated and humans should be taught to communicate through body language with animals Quote The only way a plant can talk is with its chemicals (ex Poison: Don't touch/eat me) Learn to communicate on a level deeper than speech. Quote Everyone would have a machine that they repaired, or checked on. Quote you pay for the electricity, you mine the coins, but you give some shit away for free Quote Candy Contest, have people make home made candy and have a contest. And it could fit in well with Halloween in the square. Quote Classrooms should utilize programs like AdSense and Bitcoin mining. Parents and kids should have to sign a waiver saying that students CAN use their cell phones, cameras and other devices in the classrooms of teachers that deem it acceptable. Quote I am working on plenty of Charitable projects Quote New Mexico has awesome laws Quote Drug dealers would be arrested. Quote Manufacturing & Selling cocaine isn't a victimless crime. And neither is prostitution. Quote it's illegal to manufacture guns Quote I plan on hiding nothing and cooperating (with police) whenever asked. Quote We will just have to defend the guy in court Quote we can start a political party based on the towns philosophy Quote You have to work if you want a share of communal food Quote we will not have ongoing outside programs inside our town Quote It would be child friendly, we even allow children to vote if they want. Quote Education will be non traditional...They will still have the traditional subjects, but they won't be taught like lectures so much. Quote We will have a program for children and adults that will work towards creating all kinds of community projects Quote We will make dirt bikes legal. Quote I would be the one that got tax forms and everything I already plan on that (for the $2 million land purchase)Quote we would work out getting everyone their territory afterwards Quote I have plans for a space program. And the creation of a non-territorial nation. tl;dr Quote I've been in court for weed my whole life, but now I have a medical card for it. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: docius on June 06, 2013, 02:28:22 AM I don't know... my reaction was: 'Why don't you just join the Free State Project and make New Hampshire a Bitcoin economy?'
Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: BladeRunner on June 06, 2013, 02:35:08 AM I don't know... my reaction was: 'Why don't you just join the Free State Project and make New Hampshire a Bitcoin economy?' Because the free state in NH is back to the constitution, this sounds like something else, perhaps an oligarchy? Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: acs26 on June 06, 2013, 03:55:47 AM It's funny, since you abandoned other thread because we were giving constructive criticism.
What he basically wants to do is: Make a micronation. Make a micronation that allows drugs. Make a micronation so he can use his mind powers to control peoples minds, and allow them to smoke and drink. In short: He's trying to make a town without FOLLOWING the state's laws. Even if he tries to make a Micronation, he ignores anybody who criticizes him. Oh, I mean 'pretends' to, so he can have a reason to not reply to them. ---- ---- In short, he's nothing thinking about 'ifs', he just skipped to when he's the Mayor, and making everybody do what he wants. He said, "every thing is planned", yet if you ask him anything, he'd most likely say wait. He's trying to make +12 projects, and as I explained on the other thread, would be way to much money. (He said he'd spend 2Mil on land, but when I calculated the amount a diner he's thinking about would cost (Around 1,900,000.) He instead of worrying about it, posted meme pictures.) I could latch on if he was making a micronation, but he's making a town, in a state, and trying to make his own laws.) Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: farfiman on June 06, 2013, 04:13:44 AM snip ITCCS has already issued an arrest warrant for the Queen of England and the previous Pope Benedict seeking to absolve the Canadian Government and bring them all to trial under Common Law for crimes against humanity. http://itccs.org/2013/03/15/international-arrest-warrant-issued-against-pope-francis-i-jorge-mario-bergoglio-for-crimes-against-humanity-and-child-trafficking/ snip The ITCCS is a one man tribunal with no jurisdiction. I could print a warrant like that against obama or bernanke and it would be the same. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: Sultan on June 06, 2013, 02:49:04 PM The ship idea would be the best one yet.
Only problems that need to be solved is how to have enough renewable energy to sustainable propulsion and other things. Or we can do some research and build a city at the bottom of the ocean, and we can call it..... RAPTURE. Maybe a currency doesn't need a nation, or anything. Bitcoin was started on the internet, so it will inspire from the internet. Bitcoin needs to go viral. The problem is that its so difficult to the layman to understand. I got casascius physical coins delivered to my grandparents house, and they said: "Vat iz this?" and I went: "Bitcoins" and they pulled confused faces and went: "What is a bitcoin?" And there I sighed at the futility of explaining to technophobic grandparents what bitcoin was and how it worked. So I settled for: "It's a currency." Next question was: "Who uses it?" Stumped... It's people who offer goods and services who help out the bitcoin world. At the moment, the hysteria is coming from people noticing Bitcoin is a good investment, but this is good because more people become aware, so more people willing to sell goods and services for it. Speculation is the nessecary growing pains, even people who accept bitcoin, but charge their equivilant in local currency. Eventually things will be nice and stable and there will be no need to have these exchange rates, then the bitcoin world will blossom! But the kid in me would prefer a floating city, or an underwater city. NAY! A submarine city!!! Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: Saint! on June 06, 2013, 03:38:13 PM The ship idea would be the best one yet. An Old Oil Rig Big enough to house a decent amount of people. Already set up to provide for those people away from the main land. Renewable energy from Wind, Wave and Solar available and if in doubt the well your sitting on top of might still have a decent supply of oil/gas left. Not enough to be commerically viable but probably enough to provide backup power to run the rig. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: CasinoBit on June 06, 2013, 04:02:24 PM The ideal location would be Chile, cheap land in a country which is on the rise.
Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: Inedible on June 06, 2013, 04:04:05 PM The ship idea would be the best one yet. An Old Oil Rig Big enough to house a decent amount of people. Already set up to provide for those people away from the main land. Renewable energy from Wind, Wave and Solar available and if in doubt the well your sitting on top of might still have a decent supply of oil/gas left. Not enough to be commerically viable but probably enough to provide backup power to run the rig. Hi there - Fedex delivery for you. Where do you want me to put your oil refinery? Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: Elwar on June 06, 2013, 04:04:28 PM The ship idea would be the best one yet. It is already underway. BlueSeed Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: Elwar on June 06, 2013, 04:05:38 PM The ideal location would be Chile, cheap land in a country which is on the rise. Already underway. http://galtsgulchchile.com/ Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: CasinoBit on June 06, 2013, 04:28:32 PM The ideal location would be Chile, cheap land in a country which is on the rise. Already underway. http://galtsgulchchile.com/ Sounds to me like someone is buying cheap farm land and selling it off for inflated prices Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: EndTheFed321 on June 06, 2013, 04:31:51 PM The ideal location would be Chile, cheap land in a country which is on the rise. Already underway. http://galtsgulchchile.com/ Sounds to me like someone is buying cheap farm land and selling it off for inflated prices Yes, and we can not use BTC to purchase any of that land :'( Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: FinShaggy on June 21, 2013, 04:19:54 PM Move this all to TX or CO and i'm in ^_^ It will not be centered there, but we will have land in both of those states. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: FinShaggy on June 21, 2013, 04:20:50 PM The energy and excitement is all very good for driving the project but as frank1 points out, it's missing a lot of social, economic and legal sophistication suggesting a degree of naivety. It's not missing ANY of that. Please try paying better attention. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: FinShaggy on June 21, 2013, 04:22:58 PM Why do we even have to have Bitcoin Town on land? All land belongs to somebdy. Why not buy a cruise ship instead? Or one of those seasteading projects? Please read before posting, we already have covered that. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: FinShaggy on June 21, 2013, 04:23:39 PM Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: FinShaggy on June 21, 2013, 04:25:13 PM Sounds to me like someone is buying cheap farm land and selling it off for inflated prices Nope, that's impossible. Since the money you put in goes straight to purchasing the land. We all put in money to create a pool of $2,000,000 then we use that to buy the land. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: SaltySpitoon on June 21, 2013, 04:33:30 PM I like the idea, but living on ships might be too costly. Maybe we could pool the money and buy the whole country of Nauru :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nauru Country is broke...we might get a good deal :) I like the idea of just buying a broke country, that way Bitcoinville would actually be represented by the UN etc. I vote we just buy Greece. I'm sure we could pull together the... what, 100 BTC it would cost? But yeah, trying to buy land in the U.S, and then succeed... good luck with that one. Although the whole idea is a little bit crazy. Imagine trying to buy a city with $100 bills. Even brief cases full of $100 bills. The cost to run a town wouldn't be overly unmanageable, many wealthy people essentially own entire towns, but you are talking about running a country, that's quite a bit different. You would have to figure out medical, social security, social and world policy, etc. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: pgbit on June 21, 2013, 04:36:28 PM Creating a town, or a country, or a "micro-nation"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_micronations
Micronation might be the best description... Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: acs26 on June 21, 2013, 04:48:14 PM Creating a town, or a country, or a "micro-nation"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_micronations Micronation might be the best description... MY GOD. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE FINALLY GOTTEN MY POINT ACROSS ABOUT CREATING A MICRO-NATION. I love you. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: acs26 on June 21, 2013, 05:06:49 PM I still haven't found a satifiscatory answer to my very fundamental question: What is the point of making a town, city, village, camp or whatever inside someones territory? You are still as enslaved there as anywhere else and have to follow federal law. Why doesn't someone buy land(with access the sea) or island from an established country with the explicit agreement/contract that the area will become independent? Surely some African shithole will sell it at a reasonable price? Maybe even an western country would entertain it? I'm pretty sure most towns and cities start in people's territories. However, when making a Micronation, you can 'break away' from that country, and start your own small nation. (You'd just have to follow the U.S rules while your application is pending) You don't really have to follow the countries laws anymore, because you're considered to be in another country. Every piece of land is almost claimed by other countries (Except Antarctica), unless you can magically go to space, you won't be claiming any non-claimed land. (Sorry, had to answer your question, because God knows Fin isn't.) Getting land with access to the sea doesn't mean anything. Almost every inch of land on Earth is claimed. Near every country. Starting your own country or town in places like Africa would be very hard, and I think you know why. Also, a few years ago there was a micro-nation that claimed land on a beach, and made a small island by dumping sand near the edges of the beach. They later got raided, and their land got claimed by another Government. Same thing that could happen to you. I recommend starting things like this in Europe or the Americas. Starting something like this in Africa would most likely get you raided by citizens, or the Government. Since they're in deep poverty, they'd be most likely to attack a Micronation that has quite a few money invested in it. And not considering the other things that could possibly happen. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: franky1 on June 21, 2013, 06:17:56 PM naming a town as finshaggy proposes does not automatically mean the population is exempt from following state/government laws.
it just means that the local judge can decide how drastic a crime is (length and type of punishment) and also a few other small tweaks to state and government law. fin shaggy thinks that all it takes is a town naming ceremony to get around the government. he obviously has not even looked into the new hampshire project which is many years ahead of what finshaggys brain fart proposes to do. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: chsados on June 21, 2013, 07:05:35 PM This whole thread reminds me of ramblings of a slightly mental individual with a massive unmedicated ADHD problem.
Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: acs26 on June 21, 2013, 08:56:00 PM This whole thread reminds me of ramblings of a slightly mental individual with a massive unmedicated ADHD problem. Yes, it does sound like he's delusional or he's hallucinating. (What would you expect from a Marijuana farmer?) (Please don't view this thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=239694.0) I think he wants you to join him at Silk Road. And then start a town that breaks EVERY SINGLE state and country law. Then, he's going to get you sent to the U.N and a bag tossed over your head. I actually think his idea of killing us all in the near future is good. Maybe he'll even let us go to High Max prison. Now I have to go and find everything illegal I can. Maybe even knuckle dusters, because moving into the 'town' is a magical trip that means nothing in the outside world applies. Now where did I put that inner critic.... Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: edd on June 21, 2013, 09:18:49 PM This sounds more like a cult than a town. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown
Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: BitOmni on June 22, 2013, 12:27:52 AM How is the progress on this?
Any new updates recently? Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: hl5460 on June 22, 2013, 12:33:06 AM This sounds more like a cult than a town. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown "on November 18, 1978, 918 people died in the settlement, at a nearby airstrip," That's scary. the idea of BTC is decentralized with the network. Amassing a large group of people together in the name of BTC is ridiculous. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: edd on June 22, 2013, 12:52:57 AM This sounds more like a cult than a town. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown "on November 18, 1978, 918 people died in the settlement, at a nearby airstrip," That's scary. the idea of BTC is decentralized with the network. Amassing a large group of people together in the name of BTC is ridiculous. What's scary is one person deciding that an entire town needs to "protect, promote & repair" your mental health, is already dictating what kind of house you'll live in, what types of food you'll eat, what kind of crops and livestock you'll raise, how you'll congregate for worship, and how you'll go about hiring any labor for personal work. What's even scarier is that some people think this is a good idea. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: franky1 on June 22, 2013, 02:08:53 AM How is the progress on this? Any new updates recently? well finshaggy only has 3BTC and is on a mad .. and i mean mad dash effort to make thousands of posts to get dev coins.. he has no experience of law apart from appearing in court as an accused person. he has no expereince of construction beyond how to roll a joint he has no expereince of farming beyond how to grow weed under a lamp he has no expereince of state permits beyond a 30 second google search .. so you tell me how is this adventure suppose to progress. what makes this more interesting is that there is another guy that wants to make a bitcoin island. with the exact same lack of knowledge and experience required to make it work. and a deliberate side stepping of answering fundamental questions about the project, but in return gets insulting.. why oh why is it only the nutters with no experience that have the idea's that if done properly would help bitcoin. please please please can someone with some actual real estate, construction and law experience please come forward. edit: i take the last comment back.. with pirate@40's mom being in real estate, dad in construction and pirate himself knowing the law back to front.. maybe those qualifications are not enough to make a project like this work... lol Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: Exoskeleton on June 22, 2013, 03:39:48 AM Journal of Bitcoin Town:
Dear mom, we don't have money for our own land yet so we are occupying a sidewalk. We have beer and free wi-fi so it's ok and our spirits are still high. http://www.thebigcritique.com/wp-content/images/television/always_sunny/mac_and_dennis.jpg Its now months into our establishment and we have found some land. We should have a permanent structure up soon! http://preptalk.hermits.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Tent-City.jpg May not look like much, but its home. http://withfriendship.com/images/g/33576/Shanty-town-picture.jpg Due to our very limited space we decided to bulid on it, literally. http://wehavea.name/Photo.ashx/cd0cfc4712fa4400ba08cdb8c673f465 I think we underestimated the waste disposal issue though... http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/04/07/article-1374379-0B84360800000578-172_964x696.jpg Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: franky1 on June 22, 2013, 04:38:26 AM exoskeleton...
beautiful depiction of how it will turn out with finshaggy as the leader Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: FinShaggy on June 22, 2013, 04:56:27 AM How is the progress on this? Any new updates recently? My brother died so things have been hindered. Bu progress is being made, just not leaps and bounds as expected. Over the next month we will be getting the rest of the 180+ descriptive town videos up, so that you can get a general idea of what will go on in the town. And we will make 1-2 hour segments, that will come together to make a 3-8 hour documentary talking about all the aspects of what we will be doing. So you can look forward to that over the next month, it would have had massive progress starting around the 14th (that's when it was planned), but my brother died on the 4th. And we just now got his ashes today. We are starting the Bitcoin Town Library though, it will start with a paid xbox gaming clan, and paid writing. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: FinShaggy on June 22, 2013, 04:58:01 AM This sounds more like a cult than a town. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown "on November 18, 1978, 918 people died in the settlement, at a nearby airstrip," That's scary. the idea of BTC is decentralized with the network. Amassing a large group of people together in the name of BTC is ridiculous. What's scary is one person deciding that an entire town needs to "protect, promote & repair" your mental health, is already dictating what kind of house you'll live in, what types of food you'll eat, what kind of crops and livestock you'll raise, how you'll congregate for worship, and how you'll go about hiring any labor for personal work. What's even scarier is that some people think this is a good idea. Wrong. If you had paid attention, you would know that those things are only provided for you if you elect free welfare. Your land is your land. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: franky1 on June 22, 2013, 05:28:17 AM finshaggy, you have just revealed to the whole bitcoin community that you cant even look after yourself.. in the off topic thread. so why even bother continuing with the delusion that you have what it takes to lead this project.
get out of the delusions, enter reality. sort yourself out. look at what is required beyond your dreams of the end result. and then go visit new hampshire and do some indepth research before you even try to put a price on your next delusion. why oh why is it always the psychotic drug fuelled idiots that think they have what it takes to make a bitcoin town/island... Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: FinShaggy on June 22, 2013, 05:34:10 AM finshaggy, you have just revealed to the whole bitcoin community that you cant even look after yourself.. in the off topic thread. so why even bother continuing with the delusion that you have what it takes to lead this project. Lol, have fun watching the next few months. And how am I not taken care of? The problem is that I am not acknowledged. It has nothing to do with being able to handle myself, and I am remedying the dis-acknowledgement even with this very discussion. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: Inedible on June 23, 2013, 02:18:58 PM The energy and excitement is all very good for driving the project but as frank1 points out, it's missing a lot of social, economic and legal sophistication suggesting a degree of naivety. It's not missing ANY of that. Please try paying better attention. You know what, I do pay pretty good attention when someone is trying to get something off the ground but I've lost all desire to give you the benefit of the doubt. Good luck with the social, economic and legal issues that you face. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: superresistant on June 23, 2013, 03:57:28 PM it would be awesome
Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: AliceWonder on June 23, 2013, 04:26:20 PM I wish you luck, I haven't seen this kind of thread since Art Bell retired.
Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: Vod on June 23, 2013, 04:41:21 PM This community should let finshaggy gather as much material as he can, then when the project is ready to start we should find someone competent to actually start the town.
Potheads don't complete large projects like this. They are just dreamers. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: FinShaggy on June 23, 2013, 05:24:18 PM 1. Introduction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzEtTRdEMDM
2. Biodiesel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52YTZHoco8I 3. Making a TV Show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9rQaADwfYY 4. DevSeed Project (preserve the planet): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDTb-IFo8ds 5. Library of the Future: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv7jOqxR2Kg 6. Library of the Future Expanded: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ikKNFiKIhA 7. Town Constitution: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RBzz8ZAa3M 8. Giant Reed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_aeZPzcFKE' 9. Canary Reed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJFsOz1jknM 10. Datura: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9b3emeLI04 11. Hot Sauce: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnNfFvfvSRk] 12. Water Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggFnDNI5hAA 13. Hatchery: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW0-iRM89S8 14. Mail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O18KXoLYOSk 15. Shipping: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgYUUiYdBQA 16. FX Acres: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7VpMwkWIEY 17. Art Gallery: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prJvvnPETJo 18. Geodomes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72sxiXJCJSc Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: FinShaggy on June 23, 2013, 05:25:30 PM This community should let finshaggy gather as much material as he can, then when the project is ready to start we should find someone competent to actually start the town. Potheads don't complete large projects like this. They are just dreamers. I actually encourage others to create towns of their own like mine. But I will get this done, this town is for my dead brother, so all I have to say is "Fuck ye of little faith". Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: Vod on June 23, 2013, 07:45:33 PM This community should let finshaggy gather as much material as he can, then when the project is ready to start we should find someone competent to actually start the town. Potheads don't complete large projects like this. They are just dreamers. I actually encourage others to create towns of their own like mine. But I will get this done, this town is for my dead brother, so all I have to say is "Fuck ye of little faith". "Fuck ye and ye dead brother". :-\ Let me know if you want to place a bitcoin wager. This will never be completed. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: FinShaggy on June 23, 2013, 08:11:43 PM This community should let finshaggy gather as much material as he can, then when the project is ready to start we should find someone competent to actually start the town. Potheads don't complete large projects like this. They are just dreamers. I actually encourage others to create towns of their own like mine. But I will get this done, this town is for my dead brother, so all I have to say is "Fuck ye of little faith". "Fuck ye and ye dead brother". :-\ Let me know if you want to place a bitcoin wager. This will never be completed. Did you just really bring up my brother that died 2 weeks ago. Fuck you. And have fun with whatever karma has waiting for you. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: Vod on June 23, 2013, 10:45:57 PM Did you just really bring up my brother that died 2 weeks ago. Fuck you. And have fun with whatever karma has waiting for you. Nope. You brought him up. Karma doesn't exist. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: FinShaggy on June 24, 2013, 12:29:30 AM Did you just really bring up my brother that died 2 weeks ago. Fuck you. And have fun with whatever karma has waiting for you. Nope. You brought him up. Karma doesn't exist. I meant in a negative manner. And yes, karma exists. Put shit into the world, get shit out/ Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: Vod on June 24, 2013, 01:03:33 AM Did you just really bring up my brother that died 2 weeks ago. Fuck you. And have fun with whatever karma has waiting for you. Nope. You brought him up. Karma doesn't exist. I meant in a negative manner. And yes, karma exists. Put shit into the world, get shit out/ Then with all the F bombs you throw around, you'll soon be dead yourself. :-\ Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: Street Jammer on June 24, 2013, 09:22:29 AM Bitcoin Land . Lyk Disney Land :D
Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: cryptoanarchist on June 24, 2013, 04:13:45 PM This thread is derailed and was a dumb idea from the beginning.
For a more realistic idea for a libertarian city, see here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=242119 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=242119) Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: FinShaggy on June 24, 2013, 04:26:40 PM Did you just really bring up my brother that died 2 weeks ago. Fuck you. And have fun with whatever karma has waiting for you. Nope. You brought him up. Karma doesn't exist. I meant in a negative manner. And yes, karma exists. Put shit into the world, get shit out/ Then with all the F bombs you throw around, you'll soon be dead yourself. :-\ Cussing isn't an act against a living thing. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: hamiltino on June 27, 2013, 12:19:03 PM I stopped reading when i saw this at the start of your post: "Due to recent happenings. Bitcoin town will work to protect, promote & repair the mental health of any willing citizens:" Why are you talking about details that have nothing to do with building/ organising a bitcoin town? I am completely uninterested in any 3rd party that feels the need to "repair my mental health", and i don't think that should be the primary focus of anyone that wants to start a "bitcoin" town. If you are serious about this, start with general plans about your economy, what special measures you would take to make your town bitcoin friendly and look for a bunch of people that are interested in the idea. Hell, even the shape of the houses you will be building is not important at the moment. Not everyone wants to live in a house made of tyres and glass bottles. Personally, i wouldn't mind, but by mentioning that completely irrelevant detail, you scare away half of your readers. Start with the basics, build a community and evaluate your options. Once you got enough people that are commited to the project, you can start discussing the details, not the other way around. Nice idea, Sloppy execution. ;) I think its most fundamental to start any project with how you want it to function. You don't build a town for the sake of building it, you build it because of the ideas and concepts that motivate you to build such a town . You don't build a spaceship to the moon if you didn't have the idea/dream of going to the moon in the first place, who would be motivated enough to build such technology without dreams, however far-fetched they seem. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: hamiltino on June 27, 2013, 12:29:19 PM This whole thread reminds me of ramblings of a slightly mental individual with a massive unmedicated ADHD problem. ADHD? a person that is not sedentary, bursting with constant energy? Spare me the bullshit about attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, that ain't no disorder, its simply something society can't handle. Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: Inedible on June 27, 2013, 12:59:50 PM I think its most fundamental to start any project with how you want it to function. You don't build a town for the sake of building it, you build it because of the ideas and concepts that motivate you to build such a town . You don't build a spaceship to the moon if you didn't have the idea/dream of going to the moon in the first place, who would be motivated enough to build such technology without dreams, however far-fetched they seem. Do you feel OP has a good and realistic chance of making a success of this? And belief enough that you would be willing to put your own time/energy/resources into it? Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: superresistant on June 27, 2013, 01:24:32 PM We need weed, a lot. Then everything will be ok.
Title: Re: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town Post by: franky1 on June 29, 2013, 09:18:24 PM I need a legal team or else I look like a 21 year old, (financially) broke, emotionally distressed stoner. All I ask is for help is finding that legal team. the first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem |
