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There are many clones of BTC thats coming out with so much hype. So many versions like E-BTC and many others that says they are better than BTC. Are they valuable? Or will BTC always be the King?

E-BTC had so much hype and went up like almost 70x within a so short time. Follow the trend, play safe and grab profits when you can. I think now is the ICO hype so it is good to ride the wave

There will always be copycats, they look like Bitcoin, act like Bitcoin but they aren't Bitcoin. Bitcoin is the community, the development team, the infrastructure that none of these copycat can't replicate.

BTC will always be the first of everything else but in time others will take the reigns. I think now is too soon for that to happen but given the time the situation will change. If you are looking to invest in these clones, consider the upcoming fork and its repercussions on them. Especially be careful for pump and dumps.  

Not comparable man
If you get your token from the airdrop then it is nice, but if you want to spend money on them, please dont, just dont

this is not new.

it has been happening from first year of bitcoin release. that is what happens when your project is open source and also popular. also something like bitcoin that also has value leads to so many clones like these.
everyone wants to get some money by just using the "bitcoin" name. they make their money too. with premining, flash mining the first blocks, or things like that and make a lot of money. in the end none of them exist after some time because they don't do anything that matters to keep them alive.

they are never "valuable" though you can make some profit if you are a trader or a miner. it is very risky though.

A lot of profits can be made when you get it cheap and when there is a lot of hype on those coins. Without volume there pose a lot of risk on them actually

Clones of BTC, especially with the bullshit concept like bitcoin meet ethereum is just a money grabber for the developers, and there's a trend to "digitalize" any existing popular coin into some kind of smart contract token through ethereum smart contract, if you know it, the devs are just trying to grab people's money. if it's free, you should get involved just like airdrops, and if you need to pay for the coin, never.

not all of them rise, most of them start dropping from day one and continue going down and when you think they are cheap they keep going lower some more. there will obviously be some pumps at some point in their lifespan but that is another discussion.

the issue with these types of fork that do an airdrop kind of giveaway, is that most people sell what they get as soon as they get it. how much do you think the market is going to resist such a huge sell pressure?

i believe the e-something coins were all based on ethereum, waves,... chains and were mostly ICO smart contract stuff and had nothing to do with bitcoin really!
it is just using the names of popular coins and there are a lot of them:
e-btc, e-ltc, e-iota, ...

don't confuse these "names" with forks of bitcoin like bitcoin cash which did an airdrop to bitcoin holders. they are very different. for example for these you just have to own bitcoin to get the airdrop. for the above ones (the e-something) you just have to participate in the airdrop with your ETH, Waves,... address.

Any successful thing has clones. I think that btc will be king till the end of blockchain era

We don't need to entertain those clones because they are just like bonus of having bitcoin and it is a free money so it is a good thing for us bitcoin holders. If you hold bitcoin for a lot of years then you will actually earn more money in your investment and you will have more free coins if bitcoin will have any fork or clones.

As we have seen before. On August 1, the first fork. DId you see bch or bitcoin cash tops bitcoin? No right? So probably bitcoin will stay at the top. They can't beat this greatest coin that was created to start this crypto.

Those attempts are just an admission of insecurity of alternative coin enthusiast to bitcoin stands and position. They want the throne that bitcoin is right now, is it doable or is it even possible?. As the reaction of the investors and users in forking is not even a mere effect on this but just playing with the flow and wanted for a free coin.

Somewhere in no particular time and coin a competitor will surface soon but is it this two fork that is coming, I don’t think it is.

Actually this IS new.

Prior to August, all teh alts were either scrypt coins or they were proof-of-stake coins. Which meant they were mined differently. You had various pools of GPU miners switching from coin to coin causing wild fluctuations in the block times, but bitcoin was unscathed, because it was a sha-256 coin mined only by ASICS.

Once we start getting a lot of sha-256 forks, the ASIC miners are going to behave much like the scypt coin miners - they're going to switch from chain to chain, and block times on all the chains will get very unstable. This in turn weakens bitcoin's central premise - that you can send coinsand they'll get confirmed within ten minutes.

If some of these forks are not killed, an alt will take over as #1, while the four sha-256 coins are fighting for miners.

I think this are attempts from people trying to centralize BTC, with their own BTC. a bunch of guys proclaim a new BTC, they would surely centralize and profit the most. But like other clones, I dont believe that these will sustain for long time, because BTC is the real deal, and I think it's followers won't leave the main and adventure in the new clones!

In essence nothing really changed since the beginning. Litecoin is also a copy of btc with small adaptations. A successful product will always be copied, it only gets overtaken when something more disruptive emerges. The copy itself stands no chance :)

Think closer on your question. When it comes to Bitcoin and its clones think of Bitcoin as the main skeletal branch, and all other clones: Litecoin LTC, Bitcoin Cash BCH, Bitcoin Gold BTG, as leaves coming off the main branch. Clearly, Bitcoin is the one with the most value out of all the clones, and it will likely stay that way until the end of time....or at least for how long Bitcoin survives. 

Those coins are trying to mimic and confuse many people. But it is difficult to ignore them because their gains are crazy!

Bitcoin has been and will be the king of all cryptocurrencies. Firstly it has the largest capitalization. Secondly, because it was the first he had more supporters. In the third bitcoin does much more likely to be legal currency. If it happens that the number of supporters of bitcoin will increase exponentially. This will lead to the same increase in capitalization.

there is a cap for these "gains". and when there are hundreds of them being created, there won't be any gains anymore.

and so far these new "mimic" coins are doing a lot of airdrops which are free money giveaways. and people who receive them are not about to hold them or buy more, they instead dump what they got for free to turn the useless token to something of value: bitcoin or fiat.

No matter how many clones or altcoins are created, it can never take the place of the original and first of its kind cryptocurrency to ever exist. Although newer coins are coming up with great ideas to offer, can't ever see them going beyond Bitcoin as the father of the crypto world will always remain the father. Most of the altcoins being created today are just for the project team to make money which isn't really the original idea when Bitcoin was released.

They could be good short term, but if you're looking for a long term investment, you're much better off going for Bitcoin or some other altcoin like Litecoin. I don't see any Bitcoin clone getting any long term success because they'll never be groundbreakingly better than Bitcoin, and most holders would rather sell their coins to gain the more established and tested Bitcoin.

There are hundreds of bitcoin clone and many of them have bitcoin name attached at end or start but that doesn't make them as valuable as bitcoin. If they can't offer anything more than what bitcoin is already providing, that how they gonna attract new users?

ETH and other smart contract based coins are getting good level of adoption because they are offering what bitcoin can't provide right now.

Clones will always be clones no matter what,if they could convince the general public that their coin is the better than bitcoin in many ways then they could win the battle ,other than that it is really hard to overcome the brand bitcoin has generated over the years,if i am getting those coins because i am holding bitcoin,then i am all in. :D

There are and always have some ripoffs on the market. But, most of them is just for short time investment (pump and dump) more of like a shitcoin would always have new ideas to make the community hype for something

People will always copy something that became popular and powerful. It is logically because they think they can do the same thing wich is extremely hard. Of course bitcoin will always be in the top. You cannot replicate a thing that is on the market for almost 10 years in a few months. I personally dont trust something that is copied because that is not a new idea or technology wich means it will not be successful. Even if at the beginning a new coin may seem great , only 0.001% will actually be successful in future

Just like Bitcoin Cash, no one is going to settle for an imitation when there original is always available, nonetheless, there are people who believe that these altcoins are going to be a success and they keep on investing in them, in some cases they are right and sometimes not so right.

This is how the market works and will always be like this if you want a market with competition, options and alternatives. Eg, you have the brand that invented the automobile them some guys that used to work there leave to form a new brand with a new clone automobile vehicle with some customization but all essential elements are there. This still applies in the crypto ecosystem, there is clones that is just a plain fork with a little delta customization and others with a broader deviation from the original.

Like this, IBM invented the modern computer, will they always be the King forever till the end of times ? Apple currently has more market cap so there is no guarantee for life a company be on Top but stats show the opposite that companies stay on top on average no more than 80 years.

eBTC is not totally a clone of bitcoin since its just a tradition erc20 coin which only using the name of bitcoin and it did really get hyped up and rose up its price in a short period of time. eBTC is different into Bitcoin Cash which is totally and truly the clone of bitcoin but yet it is just still consider as an another altcoin in the market. As suggested above once a coin being hyped up specially on those coins who attained on airdrop then the best time is to secure profits or free money before they would totally dump.

Yes they do everything for money, they create new coins and create a community.
Distribute them for free then immediately they will throw them away. sort of junk coins, but interesting to look at.

they are only part of BTC, they are the coin that is being brought BTC price. BTC will always be at the top of the rankings, other coin prices are based on BTC, if BTC goes down then they will also go down and if BTC price goes up then another coin will also go up.

There is no doubt that BTC will still be the King before its the first crypto that reaches every corner of the globe. Many have tried but they all failed. And now they are trying to clone which somewhat divide the market. I think it bring harm in the ecosystem because investors now will have other options besides bitcoin. But I think majority will just stick to BTC because its already trusted and its been with us for quite sometime now.

Those are just shits and useless, they create those coins just to be airdropped and dumped by developers, easy and fast money for them. If you are in, then just ride the wave take profit and leave.

No, it won't divide the market as I look at it. Only a small percentage with stay with BCC or BTG and those have a high stake on that coin. No casual investors will put cash on them because they are just altcoin and we know that altcoins (or most of them for that matter) is just for pump and dump only. Although BCC is trading at $360. Its going on a downward trend. It will be likely the case for BTG, when we all get the free coins, we will dump it and go and stick to bitcoin market. And then those coins will enjoy a roller coaster ride but won't be as valuable as bitcoin.

The success of eBTC (even without a WHITE PAPER) draws attention to others that pushed them to make their own digital currency as well. Lots of eXXXXX and wXXXXX coins airdrops invaded in this forum but non of them seems to look promising than their predecessor (eBTC).

They only create coins without good planning, no roadmap no good team. But some of them managed to do it. EBtc, this coin became the foundation for making similar coins like Exrp, Eltc, Edoge and many more. Better to stay away from this coin and prefer a truly quality coin.

They aren't exactly "clones" of bitcoin but they have the same nature of existence, which is being a cryptocurrency and exist within the internet. Like bank investments, every bank have their own rates but there is always this bank that will have the highest rate among the others. Some cryptocurrencies like ethereum and e-toro are showing potential in terms of price growth, but a lot of them are falling short in the long-run. Bitcoin will always remain the number one cryptocurrency in the market due to its reputation and volatility compared to others.

Yes exactly, you are not taking all the things to fame. Developers just made these all little coins just for themselves. And that is only one reason for which these coins are just remained unfamiliar. Only few people know about them. No future, no proper development and no advertising at all. So they are just disappeared after there are established.

Yes you are correct that so many clone of bitcoin are now appears but it's up to you if engage to them to generate more profit. Bitcoin is still the best profitable coin in crypto world and no one defeat on it.

So I believe that bitcoin will always be a king, and if its someone will overtake it  then it will be ethereum

bitcoin will always be the top, e-btc was scam.
Bitcoin is now around $ 5,700 and i think you will come to around $ 7500

as far as i know the ebtc has pump a lot and its still valuable but soon maybe it will disapper just like a bubble because these etokens are suspiciuos and seems shady or maybe a scam soon if they got too much people who invest on it. bitcoin is still the king and the most trusted coin compared to others. also ive heard other same names like bitcoin gold and bitcoin2x ? that it said it will occur after the fork , i dont know if its true and will posibly happen.

What disturbs me most is that any fork or e-coin has the same (or more) abilities than Bitcoin. Bitcoin will always be the first but imo its to easy to copy the tech. Even a scam erc20 token has the same capabilities

Financially?
Maybe. Do your own analysis, be reasonable. You'll reach the conclusion 90% of coins are just crap.
I think shorting every new coin when possible is a good idea  ::)

Morally?
No.
Support the best technologies, not the best rallies.

I was imagining, if there is only one challenger to bitcoin and will present itself as a much better option of bitcoin, the probability that people will be transferring to that coin is high. But if there are say a hundred other coins saying that they are all better than bitcoin, and are all the future of crypto, the doubts as to the credibility of these coins are very high. That is what we are confronting right now, so many so-called alternatives that have not yet proven anything yet.

Bitcoin will at least remain king for some time, maybe one day another coin can challenge bitcoin but most of the best ideas tend to be adopted by most and so bitcoin should keep ahead of the competition.

It could be Because blockchain is so old and it's faster than all other WALLET. Its so more safety and maximum user use it for bitcoin wallet

I think the forking really creates some concern... Its really starting to create some confusion Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin Gold, SegWit2 and maybe more to come...

Those are interesting about free money through the fork. But if this trend will still continue and bitcoin just look another shady token or coin that generates the more shitcoin, as a mother of crypto and that's a shame.

if we can think that clones of btc will bring us another profit then we can join in and try to buy the coins but if we can not analyze or we don't have any guide with the clones, then its better to stay away from the coins because if we don't have any guide then we are only buy the coins in bling direction and could make us getting lose. so i think we need to know first and read as many info as we can before we decide to buy the coins so we don't have to get lose from the coins.

You mean about bitcoin gold right. I am a Coinbase users for the past two years I have around 0.5 btc in Coinbase wallet itself but I didn't get the any reward from them since they pass the e-mail States they will give the reward.
Bitcoin, BTG and BCH are the only coins sploited from the bitcoin all the other shit coins are ethereum based ICO token and after got the rank as a coin and supply.

The number of clones of bitcoin increases and this process will continue even further. Bitcoin is created with open source and is available for creating such clones for almost everyone. This is part of decentralization. Some of the created clones can really succeed, and then bitcoin will have to give up his leader's place.

All new copies are strenghtning BTC, people after Bitcoincash are looking for a free gain and holding BTC. All new forks I guess will up BTC value. After 15 th December I am waiting for altcoin party. But for thta period BTC dominance can reach %70.

They have value.  But not overcome the king bitcoin. One talk always I say, bitcoin is the mother of cryptocurrency. I hope bitcoin will always king. All coin boss is bitcoin. So, it will better than ibtc, ebtc

I think ebtc edoge and others are token forms that ride on ETH network,how could it compete with BTC while the boss of the E that is ETH alone cannot compete with legendary BTC.I think again not easy for them can rival BTC see now the legendary price this is 7K$

ebtc ibtc and  - it is not the clone of bitcoins there are just ERC based tokens. Anyone can create huge number of such tokens, this tokens no value, it is just joke...

yes there are a lot of clones out there but keep in mind that the clones of the BTC will never be the BTC because i cannot just easily copy the original we can say that they copy it moves like btc but in the end the clone never beat the original

I think the new coin is only successful at the beginning when released but while the btc I think for the next 10-20 years may still be running or even up from the small to the bigger. and users / investors prefer btc than others because it I think btc is more precious than the newly released coin and mekipun coin is very expensive.

Bitcoin will always be king (or at least for a long while to come) they are for the most part pre-mined junk coins that are simply a money grab, they're good sometimes for a quick buck but eventually the community will realise there worth.

Stick with the original unless you are sure you can get profit - the rest probably won't be around in six months.

All of clones are just bitcoin wannabes, yes stick to original as always. If you are talking about forks situation is bit different but anyways there will always be one .. and only bitcoin. And that is gonna rule.

Bitcoin has a good infrastructure that can'nt be duplicated,
So it's still king
What happens in the future is unknown,
But always imitating bitcoin.

Bitcoin cash and bitcoin gold are the best clones, not sure how long they will last in the crypto market as there is nothing special about them. Other more useful altcoins will do better in the future if they offer a good service

BitcoinZ is the only legit project not designed to print free money, because it´s community based and mantained by anyone that joins and helps.. just like Bitcoin was before being taken by whales and financial institucions and exchanges.. It gives the coin back to ordinary miners like in the old days and it´s still more private than BTC. In supernova and other pools is gaining lot of support from the communty.

These E coins to be most likely resemble a fad and the ones that came after eBTC are completely copy cats with no originality. I would be shocked if any of these coins makes it into 2018 with real development.

for su main source is bitcoin and always they will be copy the others  one and btc - bcc - btc gold - ... bla bla always the king of btc .
 but fork situation yes possiblity .

The truth is that there can be a situation that it is unclear where the original is and where the clone is.

Yes... BTC always King of crypto world. Recently  so many clones of BTC come in crypto market. as you say e-BTC come in market. we see its grow up 70% from starting price but after that its going to down. Clones or hype  just for short time it's don't be fight for long time.  So choose Best and good coin or token which have good future and can be fight for long time. Don't be waste your money and time to invest scam ICO, Bad crypto and also hype.  

Most of them are just shitty scam coins that tries the replicate the original bitcoin without adding any kind of new contribution. You are better off avoiding those coins because most of those coins are just short living. People usually to make profit pump those coins and once the price goes up starts dumping and then the coin just dies.

For me, bitcoin is not an investment, is a gamble , the way bitcoin works make no sense to me. Proof of Waste is not something should people pay to buy it.. My opinion.

Will they be valuable? No, i don't think so. Bitcoin had been very successful that is the reason so many other  coins are coming out but they have a very short life span. They would most probably lead to the loss of one who invested in it.

Well bro this is just like an outstanding business "BTC" and the competitors wants BTC to be defeated so they will create a way to surpass BTC.

One of the mistakes people make is to think that bitcoin is just a piece of code but that is not correct, just look at the name of this forum is bitcointalk not altstalk or bitcoincopiestalk, we are here because of bitcoin, bitcoin is the community of users, and the support we give to it cannot simply be bought or bribed.

Nit in for now . have look at info. But in BCH.

They can't replace the original BTC. It's not comparable. It will always reign over the copy cats.

This, I think, is just the beginning. In the future, there may indeed be a lot of bitcoin clones. And there's nothing to be done about it. Bitcoin was created with open source and everyone can copy it together with its history and create its clone bitcoin. Therefore, everything is still ahead. We can wait until there are dozens of them. In this, as always, there are pluses and minuses. Opportunity for development and the possibility of fraud.

BINGO

That's why it will fail, majority of ppl are scammers, and they feed each other,

The egalitarian little coin, ... just goes down, ... see price now?/ down from a penny to 0.4, I think about what 72 satoshi and still falling,

I mine it too, and you get 2,000 / day on a normal rig,

Will it go up at number #1000 on the scale?

Too many shit-coins,... markets saturated - game over.

Consolidation is coming

Yup, that's really true. Couldn't agree more. There really are a lot of cryptos imitating bitcoin or at least want to be close to imitating it. Although most of these coins/tokens really are shitcoins, some of them really do hold value and are quite fun to play with in trading. But no doubt, noatter what coun/token pops out of nowhere, bitcoin will always be the king. That's just that. Amd I ain't gonna be dumping my bitcoin possessions ever.

I do not really like so many forks of btc. I think most of them are actually a normal altcoin, just with a name under btc. I won't invest on them.

Mostly that is only because they want to have the best valuable coin plus more money... if they have a lot in bitcoin or bitcoincash, they can get a lot in the next too...  They want to replaye bitcoin...

The formation of other Crypto is beneficial, because the course is still going up and it is easier for us to enrich. It is important to choose these stable and stable currencies that have been in the market for some time.

as you told they are clones and they could stay as a clones. i don't believe and trust them, they might be profitable for gain sometimes but i care about real altcoins which are distinctive base.

This is the correct approach unless you are an experimented trader, the best thing you can do is to stay way from the forked coins, however while I think bitcoin gold is going to disappear soon, I do not think this is going to be the case with bitcoin cash.

Thse worthless hardforks are being a hobby of the BTC's core developers,they just want to have more money than they already had.

Most of BTC forks is a trash, wich doesn't have it's own community . The most valuable of them is bch , but it's because of Roger Ver support and manipulation . Bitcoin have a most powerful community and long history , I think it can't be replaced with any other clone , so just stay aware from clones , unless you'r sure you know what you doing

It's a very blurry question, because the coins that really could do exactly what you are asking for, I would certainly say that there are a lot of such, but by and large there are not so many of them, just each one has its own minuses and pluses , here and so.

I won't buy that kind of thing if they only a clone of bitcoin or even worse the one like ebtc. I have no problem with other alts that claim they can be better than bitcoin with faster transaction and cheaper fee but they should provide something new like what raiblocks do. If they only fork bitcoin and claim to be a better bitcoin then they are not valuable.

There is always a coin that copy BTC but don't worry since btc still the one that first pop up in crypto. It still will be the main coin that will be the landmark of other coins to follow.of course every altcoin and copycat bitcoin are valuable. If not why people keep and trading it. The diffrent just in their price that changing follow the demand of the market, more demand means the price will rise.

All these forks of bitcoin are just another portion of the shit. Because nothing can be better bitcoin. Bitcoin is the most complete currency for today. Because it integrates all the necessary components, it remains only to integrate lightning into the network and that's all.

BTC is the king there will always be knock offs but their can only be 1 king that is why it sits on top

i am not in because btc is the king and no coin is equal to btc original is original and copy is copy

If something happens to bitcoin, as now, clones of bitcoin will always be able to replace it. Therefore, in this respect, the variety of clones of bitcoin is not bad. Also, a lot of them generate healthy competition between them. If the original bitcoin does not eliminate its shortcomings with the slowness of transactions and high commission fees, it is difficult to imagine what will happen to it in the future. Therefore, bitcoin clones will always be in reserve. Moreover, we can not influence the decrease in their appearance. It remains only to observe.

Each time when the fork is created, they say the new son or daughter of Bitcoin will be faster and safer. However, in most cases the fork just creates the greatest fuss on the market of cryptocurrency.

It is not a matter of forks or clones, it is just the timing and the visibility. Because of the previous fork and the coming week, there are more people talking about the forks and clones and there are more people paying attention, that makes it in your face, other than the fact that most of the time there are the same number going on and you see about half of them.

they are just a bunch of altcoins
bitcoin will always be the king of all altcoins. you can buy those altcoins if you want, and after you earn your profit you can sell it immediately, because we all know that those kind of altcoins brings so much hype then will forget after they get enough money.

Bitcoin is a king and it will always at that position in future also as no clone of it has much worth. No clone of bitcoin has the capability to come nearby of it and they are like pump and dump coins.