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Title: Satoshi & US government
Post by: quyethuynh on October 11, 2017, 02:08:58 AM
Co-founder of Nem coin said: "US government knows who Satoshi?".

Do you believe that? And why does the US government not publish?


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: CriptoIngresos on October 11, 2017, 02:44:01 AM
Even though sometimes is interesting to think about these things, I honestly don't believe that there's some kind of government conspiracy hiding Satoshi's identity. I really don't think that the government could have any type of motivation behind this. No one really knows who Satoshi Nakamoto was.

Also, I didn't found any source where the co-founder of Nem said anything related to the U.S government hiding Satoshi's identity. However even if he did said that, I don't think there's a lot of valid evidence behind these claims.


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: jseverson on October 11, 2017, 03:03:47 AM
It's a conspiracy theory in my opinion. Why would the US government be interested in him? He did found Bitcoin, but he has no control over it. He also made his exit before Bitcoin actually boomed. He was a revolutionary, and I'm sure every single Bitcoin holder and cryptocurrency holder has varying degrees of respect towards him, but they recognize that he can be nothing more than a figurehead with no power or authority.

If the government is keeping tabs on him, I find it unlikely that it's because of Bitcoin. We don't know where he is or whether he started other projects before and after founding Bitcoin. Still, I find all of this highly unlikely. I honestly think people should stop trying to find him as a sign of respect.


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: Tszunami98 on October 11, 2017, 03:16:54 AM
I dont know whats the fuzz with Satoshi, Ethereum is a few billion dollars and i dont see vitalik buterin having a security problem. Maybe he is so wanted because of the amount of money he has...who knows, one thing is clear tho...if you have that amount the US goverment is gonna come after them...after all they have to respect their mafia status right?


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: quyethuynh on October 11, 2017, 03:21:18 AM
It's a conspiracy theory in my opinion. Why would the US government be interested in him? He did found Bitcoin, but he has no control over it. He also made his exit before Bitcoin actually boomed. He was a revolutionary, and I'm sure every single Bitcoin holder and cryptocurrency holder has varying degrees of respect towards him, but they recognize that he can be nothing more than a figurehead with no power or authority.

If the government is keeping tabs on him, I find it unlikely that it's because of Bitcoin. We don't know where he is or whether he started other projects before and after founding Bitcoin. Still, I find all of this highly unlikely. I honestly think people should stop trying to find him as a sign of respect.


I think that's possible because the US government is very good. They know a lot but for some reason they do not publish. For example, they found aliens but did not publish them.

I met him at a conference in Vietnam on the subject of "value of internet".


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: Almat on October 11, 2017, 03:25:53 AM
I dont know whats the fuzz with Satoshi, Ethereum is a few billion dollars and i dont see vitalik buterin having a security problem. Maybe he is so wanted because of the amount of money he has...who knows, one thing is clear tho...if you have that amount the US goverment is gonna come after them...after all they have to respect their mafia status right?

Maybe he simply didn't want the attention? Like how Charlie Lee has gotten a lot of followers. He probably just wanted to make a positive impact to the world and fade in the background.

I think that's possible because the US government is very good. They know a lot but for some reason they do not publish. For example, they found aliens but did not publish them.

I met him at a conference in Vietnam on the subject of "value of internet".

You met Satoshi? Whose identity is unknown to the world?


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: Singwala on October 11, 2017, 03:33:06 AM
If US.Goverment knows this is likely to be the big threat to Bitcoins users. Because they can control Satoshi so they can do the things they want to do in bitcoins, let's say it's what's happening now. So we will not be able to wonder why bitcoins are rising. Perhaps one day the price of bitcoins has fallen suddenly and we're really going to lose it because others are worth the big money


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: Truong Ngoc Vuong on October 11, 2017, 03:35:27 AM
Gavin Andresen, chief scientist of the Bitcoin Foundation, said at a conference in BBC that he believes Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonymous inventor of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: Gotumoot on October 11, 2017, 03:36:48 AM
If the American government really knows the true identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, it may have a great impact when it comes to chance. Because they can kill satoshi and quit all the important things to know in bitcoins. And definitely a big puppet they can control. And it can now happen. But do not swallow us soon enough to find a great source to make sure


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: quyethuynh on October 11, 2017, 03:38:23 AM
I dont know whats the fuzz with Satoshi, Ethereum is a few billion dollars and i dont see vitalik buterin having a security problem. Maybe he is so wanted because of the amount of money he has...who knows, one thing is clear tho...if you have that amount the US goverment is gonna come after them...after all they have to respect their mafia status right?

Maybe he simply didn't want the attention? Like how Charlie Lee has gotten a lot of followers. He probably just wanted to make a positive impact to the world and fade in the background.

I think that's possible because the US government is very good. They know a lot but for some reason they do not publish. For example, they found aliens but did not publish them.

I met him at a conference in Vietnam on the subject of "value of internet".

You met Satoshi? Whose identity is unknown to the world?
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Lol, of course, I don't know Satoshi. I met co-founder of Nem coin.


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: Argoo on October 11, 2017, 03:43:49 AM
The fact that the US government knows who Satoshi Nakamoto is, I think that this is another rumor that has no confirmation. If this is not a pseudonym, but such a person really was, then it is unlikely that someone will establish his identity, since he himself did not want it, and since 2009, that is the year of the creation of bitcoin, a lot of time has passed.


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: Lion BItcoin Shop on October 11, 2017, 03:44:33 AM
Co-founder of Nem coin said: "US government knows who Satoshi?".

Do you believe that? And why does the US government not publish?

who are you? who says co-founder of NEM know it? any official news link? or just a conspiracy or Hoax?
so you just claim...?

for me i can say, i know who is sathosi, i meet john cena, and he says "Kim jong un" know who is sathosi nakamoto....
hahaha :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: TagaMungkahi on October 11, 2017, 03:49:50 AM
Co-founder of Nem coin said: "US government knows who Satoshi?".

Do you believe that? And why does the US government not publish?
Can you post a link? Or you are just creating thread out of the blue without providing receipts of your assumption? Even if you will provide links, i will not believe on it. If Government know Satoshi then bitcoin should have been hacked by now or attacked maliciously.


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: dothebeats on October 11, 2017, 03:56:26 AM
Thr US government always claims to know about a thing or two when it comes to security and privacy-related concerns. They could possibly have the dox of the entire US population and some neighboring countries' citizens and persons of interest, but please remember that they weren't successful on decrypting the passcode of a terrorist's iPhone and claimed that they have a pre-installed 'backdoor' on it. They are the masters of bluffing and deceiving, so I wouldn't take much of their word regarding Satoshi's identity.


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: CryptoBry on October 11, 2017, 04:13:58 AM
Co-founder of Nem coin said: "US government knows who Satoshi?".  Do you believe that? And why does the US government not publish?

The big reason why they are not publishing who is the real Satoshi Nakamoto is because those are still now speculations. They could not be sure who is the real one among the many possible identities plus they don't really care about Satoshi Nakamoto at all. The US government will not stand to gain anything if they divulge the real identity of the man plus we the government can be afraid of possible backlash on privacy.


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: sort_cirkit on October 11, 2017, 04:16:44 AM
There are some official conspiracies that hide the identity of Satyai. Nobody knows who Satoshi Nakamoto is. This is a conspiracy. The United States has got Bitcoin, but it has no control over it. If the government does not keep it in, I guess it is due to Bitcoin. If the US government knows that it may be a big threat for users of bitcoins.


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: Indrawan77 on October 11, 2017, 04:23:40 AM
How can we be sure that person is Satoshi, we dont even know Satoshi is a person or a group, but that doesn't bother me at all and I dont believe it at all, if they know why they don't announced it or maybe recruit him to create another futuristic transaction system


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: pooya87 on October 11, 2017, 04:32:03 AM
who cares?
so what if US government and 20 other governments know who Satoshi Nakamoto is. what is that going to change? ... absolutely nothing!

you are confusing bitcoin with a centralized thing. possibly even some of the centralized altcoins such as ethereum. yes if these centralized altcoins lose their developer they simply die because they are the kill switch.

Gavin Andresen, chief scientist of the Bitcoin Foundation, said at a conference in BBC that he believes Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonymous inventor of Bitcoin.

i would have said the same thing if Craig paid me the same amount he paid Gavin ;)


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: mrcash02 on October 11, 2017, 04:32:18 AM
How can we be sure that person is Satoshi, we dont even know Satoshi is a person or a group, but that doesn't bother me at all and I dont believe it at all, if they know why they don't announced it or maybe recruit him to create another futuristic transaction system

Yes, there is no way to know if this information is correct. We don't know who Satoshi is, we don't know what happens inside the governments around the world, it's like to ask if USA has contact with Aliens. Pure speculation, nothing concrete. I think Satoshi's job is done and he have already contributed a lot for the world. The interest on him would be more focused on BlockChain technology than about creating new futuristic transaction systems.


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: jc89 on October 11, 2017, 04:34:06 AM
Co-founder of Nem coin said: "US government knows who Satoshi?".

Do you believe that? And why does the US government not publish?

How would Nem coin co-founder know about this, I'm really wondering. I honestly gave up wondering who Satoshi is because there's no way for me to find out unless he himself will come forward. And even if he does, will we really believe that he's the real deal? As for the US government, let's say I believe that they know him. I think it's not their place to publish who he is especially if ge doesn't want to. It might also be for his own protection because there will be big time criminals who will hire or abduct him to their biddings involving btc or a new crypto.


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: mevmike on October 11, 2017, 04:54:45 AM
for me the us government as of now may not have so much interest on finding out who really satoshi is.
due to lack of purpose,finding satoshi wouldn't stop bitcoin from thriving.
and even if they find him and showed him to public will also not be worthy for the government.
people will just treat satoshi as hero who have given them bitcoin...
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i will bet that criminals are more inclined to find satoshi rather than the us government.
theyll want to find him for the possible wealth he possess...
:D


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: Siren on October 11, 2017, 04:57:39 AM
Co-founder of Nem coin said: "US government knows who Satoshi?".

Do you believe that? And why does the US government not publish?

NO. And that the speculation that Satoshi is someone from NSA is far from the truth as well. Its all conspiracy theory because that's how the man became a legend. Satoshi actually hide from the government because of his creation. He was afraid that somewhat the government doesn't want his creation put forward because it will totally eliminate the banks all over the world. And besides if the government really want's to know who is behind bitcoin, they can do it, with all the ways and means at their disposal. But they choose not to do so because Satoshi went MIA.


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: Kakmakr on October 11, 2017, 05:40:24 AM
Gavin Andresen, chief scientist of the Bitcoin Foundation, said at a conference in BBC that he believes Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonymous inventor of Bitcoin.

In doing this, Gavin ruined his reputation in this community and showed how gullible he was. Many developers poked holes in Craig Wright's proof that he provided to Gavin and eventually people saw through his lies. Craig Wright is a Snake Oil salesman, and everyone knows this.

Gavin was also the reason why Satoshi left, if he did not accept the invitation to speak to the CIA, Satoshi would have still been around. ^grrrrrrr^

If anyone was working for the government, it must be Gavin Andresen.


Title: Re: Satoshi & US government
Post by: jonruhoax on October 11, 2017, 06:43:56 AM
It's a conspiracy theory in my opinion. Why would the US government be interested in him? He did found Bitcoin, but he has no control over it. He also made his exit before Bitcoin actually boomed. He was a revolutionary, and I'm sure every single Bitcoin holder and cryptocurrency holder has varying degrees of respect towards him, but they recognize that he can be nothing more than a figurehead with no power or authority.

If the government is keeping tabs on him, I find it unlikely that it's because of Bitcoin. We don't know where he is or whether he started other projects before and after founding Bitcoin. Still, I find all of this highly unlikely. I honestly think people should stop trying to find him as a sign of respect.


I agree with you. but I wonder why they always use the beginner's account ?
because they are afraid to make a post using their original account, may have a considerable rank. or what are their reasons for questioning it?