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Title: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: jgm_coin on June 05, 2013, 05:14:26 AM
Just look at the two BigVern pools for digitalcoin (DGC) and worldcoin (WDC),

Both pools are far over 51% of the network hashrates. 

Their monopoly explains the rarity and the fact that they cannot be efficiently solo-mined.

BOYCOTT MONOPOLY COINS!  Stick to coins that don't have pools with 90% of the hashrate...


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: jgm_coin on June 05, 2013, 05:15:19 AM
Just look at the two BigVern pools for digitalcoin (DGC) and worldcoin (WDC),

Both pools are far over 51% of the network hashrates. 

Their monopoly explains the rarity and the fact that they cannot be efficiently solo-mined.

BOYCOTT MONOPOLY COINS!  Stick to coins that don't have pools with 90% of the hashrate...


I'm back on litecoin.  Fuck scamcoin


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: mullick on June 05, 2013, 05:17:01 AM

Join our pool

Pool Hashrate Limit Has Been Exceeded.

Registration Closed Until Network Hashrate Rises


This is the message displayed at vern's pool. It seems he decided to take action


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: fendlestick on June 05, 2013, 05:19:21 AM
There is always the option of producing a better product and providing some competition.


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: mullick on June 05, 2013, 05:19:25 AM
My guess for DigicoinPool is he had a lot of dormant accounts who had moved on. When the DGC price made it's 25% rise today a lot of action picked up on the pool. Nothing he can do about it really. You are making too big a deal out of this.


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: Hazard on June 05, 2013, 05:19:33 AM
You clearly have no idea how mining works.

Vern's pool having over 50% doesn't magically make the coin rarer.  ::)


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: mm8000 on June 05, 2013, 05:20:31 AM
Just look at the two BigVern pools for digitalcoin (DGC) and worldcoin (WDC),

Both pools are far over 51% of the network hashrates. 

Their monopoly explains the rarity and the fact that they cannot be efficiently solo-mined.

BOYCOTT MONOPOLY COINS!  Stick to coins that don't have pools with 90% of the hashrate...

I solo mine DGC fine. And Vern closed the signup form which shows he values the currency over profit.


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: jgm_coin on June 05, 2013, 05:21:02 AM

Join our pool

Pool Hashrate Limit Has Been Exceeded.

Registration Closed Until Network Hashrate Rises


This is the message displayed at vern's pool. It seems he decided to take action

That is my point exactly.  Please let me restate it:

BigVern 's monopolies are closed for business.  If you are in- great.  If you are out- your blocks are denied and you cannot mine a block.  

Scamcoin monopoly on DGC and WDC .


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: kelsey on June 05, 2013, 05:24:28 AM
Just look at the two BigVern pools for digitalcoin (DGC) and worldcoin (WDC),

Both pools are far over 51% of the network hashrates. 

Their monopoly explains the rarity and the fact that they cannot be efficiently solo-mined.

BOYCOTT MONOPOLY COINS!  Stick to coins that don't have pools with 90% of the hashrate...


I'm back on litecoin.  Fuck scamcoin

+10000


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: jgm_coin on June 05, 2013, 05:26:05 AM
You clearly have no idea how mining works.

Vern's pool having over 50% doesn't magically make the coin rarer.  ::)


Dear Hazard:  your good at arguments of the type fallacy.  

Everyone else:  If you can restate someones argument with a slight change that allows easy refutation then you can appear to win the argument.  

Also Hazard smokes crack in Canada


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: digitalindustry on June 05, 2013, 05:27:31 AM
dudes you are insane in the membrane if you don't mine nibble - you guys look at the minute by minute -

silly boys.


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: mullick on June 05, 2013, 05:29:45 AM

Join our pool

Pool Hashrate Limit Has Been Exceeded.

Registration Closed Until Network Hashrate Rises


This is the message displayed at vern's pool. It seems he decided to take action

That is my point exactly.  Please let me restate it:

BigVern 's monopolies are closed for business.  If you are in- great.  If you are out- your blocks are denied and you cannot mine a block.  

Scamcoin monopoly on DGC and WDC .

Would you rather him open registration and gain 99% network hashrate? Now you are just being silly please stop this


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: The_Catman on June 05, 2013, 06:48:10 AM
Also Hazard smokes crack in Canada

Of course he does, we all do in Canada. It's our national past time y'know eh?


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: Starlightbreaker on June 05, 2013, 07:15:51 AM
doesn't matter, still more profitable than litecoins.


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: 96redformula on June 05, 2013, 07:18:05 AM
Pssst, if you don't like it create a pool yourself for them.  They seem to be good solid coins with community backing.


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: feeleep on June 05, 2013, 07:18:34 AM
Join http://wdc.coinmine.pl (http://wdc.coinmine.pl) to spread hashpower. We have great bounties now:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208174.msg2376270#msg2376270 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208174.msg2376270#msg2376270)


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: ZeRo103 on June 05, 2013, 07:21:40 AM

Join our pool

Pool Hashrate Limit Has Been Exceeded.

Registration Closed Until Network Hashrate Rises


This is the message displayed at vern's pool. It seems he decided to take action

That is my point exactly.  Please let me restate it:

BigVern 's monopolies are closed for business.  If you are in- great.  If you are out- your blocks are denied and you cannot mine a block.  

Scamcoin monopoly on DGC and WDC .

 :D ;D What a L00ser ... this guy has no idea how mining works. I mine DGC on 3 different pools and got paid on all 3. The issue is that Big Vern pools are 0% fee and seems that you are getting paid better. And it does not matter if he has 30% or 80% because he is a supporter of the coin. Go mine you buggers dude  ;D


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: ZeRo103 on June 05, 2013, 07:26:06 AM
jgm_coin ->Date Registered:    April 09, 2013, 08:31:32 PM  ::) ->Go read some N00bie posts ok and stop mining with you CPU  ;D


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: LittleDigger on June 05, 2013, 02:01:49 PM
FFS... ::)


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: baritus on June 05, 2013, 02:04:53 PM
Thank you for never using DGC again so I don't have to see your mindless posts.


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: r32godzilla on June 05, 2013, 02:38:26 PM
Thank you for never using DGC again so I don't have to see your mindless posts.

+1

Mods can we close this thread its just plain stupid and bordering on slander against Vern. Cheers.


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: moody123 on June 05, 2013, 04:12:04 PM
pool has 51% of network? solution - form a few more pools and actively recruit people to mine.


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: CoinHoarder on June 05, 2013, 04:59:28 PM
Having over 51% of a crypto coins hashing power is certainly concerning no matter how pretty a picture fan boys try to paint.

If Bigvern gets hacked, WDC and DGC would be in serious danger of a double spend attack, and could make it worthless in a matter of minutes.

It is a serious problem.


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: The_Catman on June 05, 2013, 05:13:36 PM
Having over 51% of a crypto coins hashing power is certainly concerning no matter how pretty a picture fan boys try to paint.

If Bigvern gets hacked, WDC and DGC would be in serious danger of a double spend attack, and could make it worthless in a matter of minutes.

It is a serious problem.

But it's not a scam on WDC, DGC, or Verns parts. It's just an unfortunate circumstance that could be taken advantage of by malicious parties.


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: CoinHoarder on June 05, 2013, 05:26:13 PM
Having over 51% of a crypto coins hashing power is certainly concerning no matter how pretty a picture fan boys try to paint.

If Bigvern gets hacked, WDC and DGC would be in serious danger of a double spend attack, and could make it worthless in a matter of minutes.

It is a serious problem.

But it's not a scam on WDC, DGC, or Verns parts. It's just an unfortunate circumstance that could be taken advantage of by malicious parties.

Yes I agree


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: shields on June 05, 2013, 05:41:31 PM
Anyone mining WDC with bigvern who wants to even things out switch to erundooks pool at http://wdcpool.erundook.net/ Been using it since WDC launch and it works fine, usually has about 1/4 to 1/3rd of the total hashrate. Or else switch to one of the other new pools.


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: techbytes on June 05, 2013, 05:45:29 PM
jgm_coin ->Date Registered:    April 09, 2013, 08:31:32 PM  ::) ->Go read some N00bie posts ok and stop mining with you CPU  ;D


Hey, I registered in April.  He doesn't represent all noob.  Count him as an outcast...    ;D


-tb-


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: Loki8 on June 05, 2013, 05:59:44 PM
For me, it's simple. All alt coins that were released after March 2013 are scams...


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: The_Catman on June 05, 2013, 06:15:50 PM
For me, it's simple. All alt coins that were released after March 2013 are scams...

Well that's a simplistic, elitist, and idiotic way to look at it. Just because creating clone coins become the new get rich quick scheme doesn't mean that every single currency is a scam. There are some people in the world that are still trying to push out honest currencies with original ideas.


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: Loki8 on June 05, 2013, 06:49:40 PM
There are some people in the world that are still trying to push out honest currencies with original ideas.

Yeah I agree but here there is no honest currency with original ideas, only clone coins with the get-rich-quick scheme...


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: tyrion70 on June 05, 2013, 07:04:47 PM
Cuz of above information and the fact that BigVern's not accepting new miners, I've created P2Pools for both Digitalcoin and Worldcoin.

For more information see our blog:
http://p2pool.nl/blog/new-p2pools-added/

You can mine on
http://wdc.p2pool.nl:9400

and

http://dgc.p2pool.nl:9300

Use your coin address as username

Have fun!


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: Oldminer on June 05, 2013, 07:14:35 PM
I wouldnt be too concerned. Verns pool is only just on 50% total and he has closed registrations until network hashrate rises. Nothing to see here...move along...


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: Pointeh on June 05, 2013, 07:35:13 PM
I'm pretty sure most people are on bigvern's pool because it's linked from Cryptsy, the main DGC hub at the moment.

There are plenty of other pools, some with >100mhash and p2pool options.

I had issues mining WDC, I guess the block time is too fast but DGC income seems pretty stable, difficulty curve considered


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: walf_man on June 06, 2013, 07:05:59 AM
make a long time to future...


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: caish5 on June 06, 2013, 09:26:23 AM
Spread the hashes around.

I have a WDC P2Pool on a solid US server.

ADDRESS http://wdc.bitvolcano.com:19331
USER yourworldcoinaddress
PASS anything

Fee is set at a tiny 1%

Looking forward to seeing a few miners.


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: bizz on June 06, 2013, 09:28:31 AM
Digicoinpool is now under 50%.

Pool Hashrate: 483.96 MH/s    
Network Hashrate: 1.04 Gh/s  


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: jdebunt on June 06, 2013, 09:29:44 AM
we need to start putting up IQ tests before people can actually register & use this site i think, this is getting sadder & sadder every day :)


Title: Re: WDC and DGC are both scams - BigVern monopolies
Post by: Hydroponica on June 06, 2013, 10:44:55 AM
Just look at the two BigVern pools for digitalcoin (DGC) and worldcoin (WDC),

Both pools are far over 51% of the network hashrates. 

Their monopoly explains the rarity and the fact that they cannot be efficiently solo-mined.

BOYCOTT MONOPOLY COINS!  Stick to coins that don't have pools with 90% of the hashrate...


I'm back on litecoin.  Fuck scamcoin

+10000

But you support GLD, one of the biggest scam coins around....