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Economy => Goods => Topic started by: titomane on June 05, 2013, 11:17:21 AM



Title: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: titomane on June 05, 2013, 11:17:21 AM
Hi


I have purchase order from KNC

number 40,41,42,43,44             2 BTC
number 110,111,112,113,114     1 BTC


If you are interested contact me.
You do not pay anything until the order this changed I trust Sam and Andreas


Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: northcape on June 05, 2013, 11:29:47 AM
I hold a preorder-confirmation for one of the order numbers you listed.

Care to explain?


Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: titomane on June 05, 2013, 11:52:48 AM
I hold a preorder-confirmation for one of the order numbers you listed.

Care to explain?


http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img534.imageshack.us/img534//preordero.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images//preordero.jpg/)

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img189.imageshack.us/img/8375/preorder2.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images//preorder2.jpg/)


It's strange because the opened orders and images confirm. NNor doubt your word, but something strange happens. Or you lied to me show my orders or KNC system does not work.
Meet Ockham's razor

Take your finding


Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: koopa on June 05, 2013, 11:55:56 AM
I can explain this - your "pre-orders" are not in fact pre-orders but are orders.  ;D


Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: northcape on June 05, 2013, 12:01:22 PM
I can explain this - your "pre-orders" are not in fact pre-orders but are orders.  ;D

Looks like it. My preorder - with a duplicate number identical to one of yours - is one of the 0-500 preorders from back in early April.


Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: titomane on June 05, 2013, 01:33:07 PM
I can explain this - your "pre-orders" are not in fact pre-orders but are orders.  ;D

Sorry are Purchase orders, but I didnt pay, I make a big order with KNC.


Looks like it. My preorder - with a duplicate number identical to one of yours - is one of the 0-500 preorders from back in early April.

Show a picture please I show mi orders

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/preorder2.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/534/preordero.jpg/


Thanks


Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: bobsmoke on June 05, 2013, 05:49:18 PM
I can explain this - your "pre-orders" are not in fact pre-orders but are orders.  ;D

Sorry are Purchase orders, but I didnt pay, I make a big order with KNC.


Looks like it. My preorder - with a duplicate number identical to one of yours - is one of the 0-500 preorders from back in early April.

Show a picture please I show mi orders

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/preorder2.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/534/preordero.jpg/


Thanks

Hi, what you have is Orders but you still don't know your queue number in shipping, right?


Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: titomane on June 05, 2013, 06:22:45 PM
I can explain this - your "pre-orders" are not in fact pre-orders but are orders.  ;D

Sorry are Purchase orders, but I didnt pay, I make a big order with KNC.


Looks like it. My preorder - with a duplicate number identical to one of yours - is one of the 0-500 preorders from back in early April.

Show a picture please I show mi orders

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/preorder2.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/534/preordero.jpg/


Thanks

Hi, what you have is Orders but you still don't know your queue number in shipping, right?

If you pay, the number will be respected. Ask Andreas or Sam ir not trust my words.


Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: Vega on June 05, 2013, 07:48:36 PM
They stated in the last newsletter that the order will be based on the preorder queue. If someone has a preorder number and pays this week, they maintain there place in the queue.


Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: DPoS on June 05, 2013, 08:23:13 PM
it is pretty simple...  they have a second numbering for the placed orders

OP was quick to place orders once kncminer allowed placing orders.  But going by the screen shot you can't tell if he is a 1-500 customer.

he would have to click on one of the orders to show that.

I have a <100 pre-reg and I have a placed order# of 560



Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: r3animation on June 05, 2013, 08:39:01 PM
I can explain this - your "pre-orders" are not in fact pre-orders but are orders.  ;D

Sorry are Purchase orders, but I didnt pay, I make a big order with KNC.


Looks like it. My preorder - with a duplicate number identical to one of yours - is one of the 0-500 preorders from back in early April.

Show a picture please I show mi orders

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/preorder2.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/534/preordero.jpg/


Thanks

Hi, what you have is Orders but you still don't know your queue number in shipping, right?

If you pay, the number will be respected. Ask Andreas or Sam ir not trust my words.

Sorry OP you're wrong in this case. You need to have registered in april on their website to get onto the 1-500 list. You will get an email of that confirmation then as proof.


Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: titomane on June 05, 2013, 08:55:56 PM
Ok this picture is better.

[IMG]http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org
http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img703.imaorder44.png

If you need anymore PM

Thanks (http://imageshack.us/photoges/703/order44.png/)


Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: r3animation on June 05, 2013, 09:02:29 PM
Ok this picture is better.

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6375/order44.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/order44.png/)

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6375/order44.png

If you need anymore PM

Thanks

OP you are still wrong. Those order numbers don't count.


Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: titomane on June 05, 2013, 09:07:44 PM
I will not argue with you, i was in orsoc Tuesday not told me what you say. It's easy to try to deny what I say. But if anyone doubts that sam@kncminer.com contact.
The tell if I'm wrong or not. Who are you to say if not part of KNC.

Tomorrow need sleep


Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: DPoS on June 05, 2013, 09:16:11 PM
I will not argue with you, i was in orsoc Tuesday not told me what you say. It's easy to try to deny what I say. But if anyone doubts that sam@kncminer.com contact.
The tell if I'm wrong or not. Who are you to say if not part of KNC.

Tomorrow need sleep

you see where it says Jupiter?  the ones in the 1-500 club have a 1-500 as part of that name

you do not have that



Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: r3animation on June 05, 2013, 09:17:55 PM
I will not argue with you, i was in orsoc Tuesday not told me what you say. It's easy to try to deny what I say. But if anyone doubts that sam@kncminer.com contact.
The tell if I'm wrong or not. Who are you to say if not part of KNC.

Tomorrow need sleep

Do you have email to prove that you are in the 1-500?


Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: canth on June 05, 2013, 10:01:50 PM
I will not argue with you, i was in orsoc Tuesday not told me what you say. It's easy to try to deny what I say. But if anyone doubts that sam@kncminer.com contact.
The tell if I'm wrong or not. Who are you to say if not part of KNC.

Tomorrow need sleep

We are simply re-stating KNC policy, which is to honor PRE-order numbers. Your unpaid order numbers aren't relevant - but good luck convincing someone to pay you. Also, you're a scalper so you start off being down a few points in my book. "Hey guys, look at me - I can place a bunch of unpaid orders. Aren't I cool?"

Post some pre-order confirmations or just deal with the fact that we're going to think you're not fully educated on the matter or are attempting to scam someone.


Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: Vega on June 05, 2013, 11:02:02 PM
titomane, even if you believe you are right, you should try to confirm.
I'm pretty sure they originally misunderstood your question, and believed that you're talking about pre-orders.

From the last newsletter:
Quote
The order books are now open for the first time allowing full ordering and payment of the Jupiter and Saturn devices.
This is when you got your order numbers. But:

Quote
Everyone already has their place in the queue so we are giving everyone 7 days to pay and maintain that place. ... Once the 7 days are over we will provide everyone with their final shipping queue placement.

I have two very low numbers (#30  #61) from the 1-500 batch pre-orders, from the same day they announced KNCminer on the forum.

I even wrote them Sam who confirmed that I have both numbers in the queue and can transfer the second one to someone. (I'm in a process of selling #61 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=226069.0 )

Both my and your numbers in the queue can't be maintained, so one of us was misinformed.


Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: r3animation on June 05, 2013, 11:09:28 PM
Ok this picture is better.

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6375/order44.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/order44.png/)

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6375/order44.png

If you need anymore PM

Thanks

What DPoS posted above is corect.

If you look at your own photo, where it says Jupiter and underneath is 250? If you were in the 1-500 club, it would say, "Jupiter 1-500".

You can compare your shot to pizza who is also selling his spot. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=226221.0)


Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: titomane on June 06, 2013, 05:52:23 AM
I will not argue with you, i was in orsoc Tuesday not told me what you say. It's easy to try to deny what I say. But if anyone doubts that sam@kncminer.com contact.
The tell if I'm wrong or not. Who are you to say if not part of KNC.

Tomorrow need sleep

We are simply re-stating KNC policy, which is to honor PRE-order numbers. Your unpaid order numbers aren't relevant - but good luck convincing someone to pay you. Also, you're a scalper so you start off being down a few points in my book. "Hey guys, look at me - I can place a bunch of unpaid orders. Aren't I cool?"

Post some pre-order confirmations or just deal with the fact that we're going to think you're not fully educated on the matter or are attempting to scam someone.
I have something that someone can have value if for you not not buy it.
Thanks


Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: titomane on June 06, 2013, 05:55:04 AM
titomane, even if you believe you are right, you should try to confirm.
I'm pretty sure they originally misunderstood your question, and believed that you're talking about pre-orders.

From the last newsletter:
Quote
The order books are now open for the first time allowing full ordering and payment of the Jupiter and Saturn devices.
This is when you got your order numbers. But:

Quote
Everyone already has their place in the queue so we are giving everyone 7 days to pay and maintain that place. ... Once the 7 days are over we will provide everyone with their final shipping queue placement.

I have two very low numbers (#30  #61) from the 1-500 batch pre-orders, from the same day they announced KNCminer on the forum.

I even wrote them Sam who confirmed that I have both numbers in the queue and can transfer the second one to someone. (I'm in a process of selling #61 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=226069.0 )

Both my and your numbers in the queue can't be maintained, so one of us was misinformed.

Why advertise your orders in my post? not think it is ethical to come to publicly offer a product like mine to my post.
thanks


Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: titomane on June 06, 2013, 06:00:24 AM
I can explain this - your "pre-orders" are not in fact pre-orders but are orders.  ;D

Sorry are Purchase orders, but I didnt pay, I make a big order with KNC.


Looks like it. My preorder - with a duplicate number identical to one of yours - is one of the 0-500 preorders from back in early April.

Show a picture please I show mi orders

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/preorder2.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/534/preordero.jpg/


Thanks

Hi, what you have is Orders but you still don't know your queue number in shipping, right?

If you pay, the number will be respected. Ask Andreas or Sam ir not trust my words.

Sorry OP you're wrong in this case. You need to have registered in april on their website to get onto the 1-500 list. You will get an email of that confirmation then as proof.

These are my two images that clarify everything ok

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6375/order44.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/order44.png/)
http://anonymouse.org/c
Thanks


Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: Anenome5 on June 06, 2013, 06:45:43 AM
Ok this picture is better.

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6375/order44.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/order44.png/)

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6375/order44.png

If you need anymore PM

Thanks
See it says 'Jupiter' then under it the number 250?

That means you're not a 1-500 pre-order. People with a sub-500 pre-order can see and buy a device titled "Jupiter 1-500" that also has a SKU number 249. I'm afraid you don't have an order for any 1-500 devices at all, and that your queue number will be entirely decided by when payment is confirmed. You admit none of these are paid for, so someone could literally register a new account on KNC right now and actually pay for a pre-order and get ahead of you in the non 1-500 queue. So, your accounts are, unfortunately, worthless for selling.


Title: Re: Sell preordes from KNC 4* & 1**
Post by: titomane on June 06, 2013, 03:18:54 PM
Ok this picture is better.

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6375/order44.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/order44.png/)

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6375/order44.png

If you need anymore PM

Thanks
See it says 'Jupiter' then under it the number 250?

That means you're not a 1-500 pre-order. People with a sub-500 pre-order can see and buy a device titled "Jupiter 1-500" that also has a SKU number 249. I'm afraid you don't have an order for any 1-500 devices at all, and that your queue number will be entirely decided by when payment is confirmed. You admit none of these are paid for, so someone could literally register a new account on KNC right now and actually pay for a pre-order and get ahead of you in the non 1-500 queue. So, your accounts are, unfortunately, worthless for selling.

Sam had me paying guarantee you safe position. As put in the mail.