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Title: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Bitnation Official on October 19, 2017, 03:01:11 PM
The Pangea Jurisdiction

And The Pangea Arbitration Token


The Internet of Sovereignty


Brought to you by BITNATION: The World’s First Voluntary Nation – A Blockchain Jurisdiction

Bitnation is the world’s first Decentralized Borderless Voluntary Nation (DBVN). The Pangea Jurisdiction is a decentralized mobile phone chat that provides decentralised governance infrastructure for society to peacefully prosper. You can make peer-to-peer agreements, resolve disputes or even create a new nation on Pangea without third party authorisation or intervention.

Bitnation’s Pangea Jurisdiction has been in development since 2015, and is currently on version 0.3. Over 200 new Nations have been registered on the Bitnation website in anticipation of the new Pangea release. Bitnation has over 200 Embassies, Consulates, and Ambassadors, and over 10,000 registered Citizens on all five continents.

Bitnation has a dynamic open source community of over 2,000 contributors on our Slack channel. Our blockchain Public Notary is currently used for a range of legal purposes - marriages, wills, birth certificates, company registration, land titles, freelance agreements, loan agreements and so on. Bitnation organized the world’s first Blockchain Marriage and World Citizenship ID, Blockchain Land Title, Birth Certificate and Refugee Emergency ID during 2014 and 2015. The BITNATION Refugee Emergency Response (BRER) programme provides a blockchain ID for stateless people. BRER’s software won the Grand Prix and Award for Best Idea at the UNESCO NETEXPLO 2017.


Bitnation, Pangea and PAT FAQ

PAT Token Functionality

The Pangea Arbitration Token (PAT) is an ERC20 compatible in-app token for the Pangea Jurisdiction. The PAT system is proof-of-reputation for Citizens, issued when Citizens create a contract, successfully complete a contract or resolve a dispute attached to a contract. PAT is an algorithmic reputation token; an arbitration currency based on performance, rather than purchasing power, popularity, or attention.

PAT Token Distribution Mechanism

The distribution mechanism for PAT tokens on Pangea is an autonomous agent, Lucy, which will initially launch on Ethereum as a smart contract. This mechanism will be blockchain agnostic and can be ported to any viable smart contract platform. An oracle created by Bitnation will help to facilitate this (semi) autonomous distribution mechanism in a decentralized and secure fashion.

Bitnation’s Pangea Technology

The Pangea Software is a Decentralized Opt-In Jurisdiction where Citizens can conduct peer-to-peer arbitration and create their own Nations. Pangea uses the Panthalassa mesh, which is built using Interplanetary File System (IPFS) and Secure Scuttlebutt (SSB) protocols. This enables Pangea to be highly resilient and secure, conferring resistance to emergent threats such as high-performance quantum cryptography. Pangea is blockchain agnostic, but uses the Ethereum blockchain for the time being. In the future, other chains such as Bitcoin, EOS and Tezos can be integrated with Pangea.

Bounties

PAT bounties for translations and software testing are being announced on our Slack channel in the #bounty channel.

XBNX Conversion

Early supporters who hold XBNX will be able to convert them to PAT at the end of the token sale through a token burn process.

Token Sale Event (TSE)

TSE Token Release: 34% of the tokens will be released during the token sale. During the pre- sale we will sell at least 10%. The TSE is hard-capped at US $30 million.

Resources

The Pangea Jurisdiction 2017 Whitepaper (https://github.com/Bit-Nation/Pangea-Docs/blob/master/BITNATION%20Pangea%20Whitepaper%202017.pdf)

Bitnation Contributor Guidelines (https://github.com/Bit-Nation/Pangea-Docs)

Bitnation Pangea Facebook Page (https://www.facebook.com/MyBitnation/?ref=br_rs)

Bitnation Governance 2.0 Facebook Group (http://)

YouTube Channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGOeAGtILGLCT5j0KTf5pBw)

Bitnation Slack Channel (https://slack.bitnation.co/)

Bitnation Steemit Blog (https://steemit.com/@bitnation)

Bitnation GitHub (https://github.com/Bit-Nation)


Title: Re: [ANN][TSE][BOUNTY]BITNATION
Post by: vanwinkle6y on October 22, 2017, 04:38:12 AM
Nice to join the bounty program


Title: Re: [ANN][TSE][BOUNTY]BITNATION
Post by: susunyonya on October 22, 2017, 06:18:24 AM
the project of my project is still very long in need of hard work between dev and team from project
and I think the announcement made in the current project is less interesting maybe there is no rood maps of the project


Title: Re: [ANN][TSE][BOUNTY]BITNATION
Post by: bitnationpangea on October 23, 2017, 06:38:30 PM
the project of my project is still very long in need of hard work between dev and team from project
and I think the announcement made in the current project is less interesting maybe there is no rood maps of the project

Our MVP, the public notary, has been live since 2015 and based on this we've developed a full stack jurisdiction and here's the GitHub link to follow the progress in real time. https://github.com/Bit-Nation

Here is a link to the public notary: https://bitnation.co/notary/

Here is a link to the frontend React Native repository to run it as it evolves: https://github.com/Bit-Nation/BITNATION-Pangea-react


Title: Re: [ANN][TSE][BOUNTY]BITNATION
Post by: khunglongrua on October 25, 2017, 03:05:20 PM
reserved Vietnamese translation.


Title: Re: [ANN][TSE][BOUNTY]BITNATION
Post by: zloadr on December 08, 2017, 12:12:17 AM
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Title: Re: [ANN][TSE][BOUNTY]BITNATION
Post by: fragglevit on December 13, 2017, 10:07:27 AM
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Title: Re: [ANN][TSE][BOUNTY]BITNATION
Post by: MoKenyanCrypto on December 22, 2017, 03:07:30 PM
AMAZING ICO
CHECK THEIR RANKING HERE
https://www.icoranker.com/ico/bitnation/


Title: Re: [ANN][TSE][BOUNTY]BITNATION
Post by: MoKenyanCrypto on January 03, 2018, 08:32:39 AM
great project
check their rating
https://www.icoranker.com/ico/bitnation/


Title: Re: [ANN][TSE][BOUNTY]BITNATION
Post by: nira09 on January 03, 2018, 04:04:28 PM
AMAZING ICO
CHECK THEIR RANKING HERE
https://www.icoranker.com/ico/bitnation/
yes, I also got this project information from there, and this Bitnation gets a platinum rating, and this is great.
is this the main announcement thread? and I think if this main thread should be very crowded


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 08, 2018, 09:58:45 AM
 
 
 Dear Community,

   We would like to share a video of Bitnation's COO, James Fennell Tempelhof talking to Benjamin Butler of Emerging Future about Bitnation’s Jurisdiction and ICO


   https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oWn7xWIysBI


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Angel Di on March 08, 2018, 11:44:28 AM
Date is known to ICO it very well. The system of an auction is not absolutely clear to me why it goes further for reduction of the price. Perhaps I not absolutely understood, probably to me it is more deeply and in detail necessary to study. In any case I will try to make it, we will look. And in general the idea was pleasant to me, now in general I consider decentralization is very important for community. Now a lot of things occurs around and we cannot ignore it.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: KatyaDurst on March 08, 2018, 01:41:13 PM
The white paper link doesn't work. Maybe it would be a good idea to upload it directly to your website, not to github?

And after all I still don't understand, after studying the site, what's my benefit to become a Bitnation citizen alongside with being a EU citizen?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: shivansps on March 08, 2018, 05:51:01 PM
The white paper link doesn't work. Maybe it would be a good idea to upload it directly to your website, not to github?

And after all I still don't understand, after studying the site, what's my benefit to become a Bitnation citizen alongside with being a EU citizen?

It is good to have Whitepaper on additional source for sure. Github is good platform to host it. But seems they just did a mistake.

The actual working link for whitepaper is working perfectly on Github: https://github.com/Bit-Nation/Pangea-Docs/blob/master/BITNATION%20Pangea%20Whitepaper%202018.pdf

The project seems to be massive! Very active github, great team and vision. Good Estonian project to follow.


Title: Re: [ANN][TSE][BOUNTY]BITNATION
Post by: Trephyna on March 08, 2018, 05:56:53 PM
great project
check their rating
https://www.icoranker.com/ico/bitnation/
rank top 100, is also quite interesting, but i need more information team dev, whitepaper, ...


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Kaznachej123 on March 08, 2018, 06:31:04 PM
                                              BITNATION ICO added - ICOTRACKER.NET       https://icotracker.net/project/bitnation
                      In-app Reputation Token for contracting governance & services     https://twitter.com/Kaznachej123/status/971815056466997248

                               https://s8.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2018/03/8c73fdc9dbd92d7b84096707b0c8d67b.jpg (https://twitter.com/Kaznachej123/status/971815056466997248)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: KatyaDurst on March 08, 2018, 06:48:03 PM

It is good to have Whitepaper on additional source for sure. Github is good platform to host it. But seems they just did a mistake.

The actual working link for whitepaper is working perfectly on Github: https://github.com/Bit-Nation/Pangea-Docs/blob/master/BITNATION%20Pangea%20Whitepaper%202018.pdf

The project seems to be massive! Very active github, great team and vision. Good Estonian project to follow.

Yeah, you're right. Estonia is cool, I know they have their worldwide e-residence system which allows anyone to register a company in Estonia. But anyway, I still can't understand the practical use of the Bitnation project  :-[


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: SamKitwell on March 08, 2018, 09:08:23 PM
An interesting interview with Bitnation’s James Fennell Tempelhof. Fascinating to think about getting married on the blockchain.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/case-against-nation-states-and-for-bitcoin-bitnations-james-fennell-tempelhof


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace on March 08, 2018, 10:07:12 PM
Dear community,

We are proud to share that Bitnation Pangea, is among the Top 7 ICOs To Buy In February 2018

https://tech.blorge.com/2018/01/23/top-7-icos-to-buy-in-february-2018


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Jas Santhel on March 08, 2018, 10:08:49 PM
Russian translation reserved


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kurniawan05 on March 08, 2018, 11:17:41 PM
any details about presale and main sale? token supply and token for sale?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on March 08, 2018, 11:30:29 PM
any details about presale and main sale? token supply and token for sale?

Presale was in Q4 2017. Private investors can still contact them directly for high-volume bonuses, please send mail to john@bitnation.co.

Public Token Sale will begin on: 25 March 2018, 16:00 CET. Starting price will be 0.091$ Per PAT, the price will decrease at a predefined rate until its minimum of 0.009$ Per PAT at the end of the auction (25 April 2018). ETH = $ rate set on first day of auction.

Tokens total supply available = 42 Billion
Tokens for sale = 14.28 Billion - pre-sale, public sale, slow release combined
Public sale = 7.3% of total





Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on March 08, 2018, 11:38:34 PM
Russian translation reserved

For all bounty related please join the bounty thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3081168


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kurniawan05 on March 09, 2018, 01:35:15 AM
any details about presale and main sale? token supply and token for sale?

Presale was in Q4 2017. Private investors can still contact them directly for high-volume bonuses, please send mail to john@bitnation.co.

Public Token Sale will begin on: 25 March 2018, 16:00 CET. Starting price will be 0.091$ Per PAT, the price will decrease at a predefined rate until its minimum of 0.009$ Per PAT at the end of the auction (25 April 2018). ETH = $ rate set on first day of auction.

Tokens total supply available = 42 Billion
Tokens for sale = 14.28 Billion - pre-sale, public sale, slow release combined
Public sale = 7.3% of total





How many fund raised during presale? I think $0.091 is expensive for total token supply 42 Billion


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on March 09, 2018, 01:59:39 AM
any details about presale and main sale? token supply and token for sale?

Presale was in Q4 2017. Private investors can still contact them directly for high-volume bonuses, please send mail to john@bitnation.co.

Public Token Sale will begin on: 25 March 2018, 16:00 CET. Starting price will be 0.091$ Per PAT, the price will decrease at a predefined rate until its minimum of 0.009$ Per PAT at the end of the auction (25 April 2018). ETH = $ rate set on first day of auction.

Tokens total supply available = 42 Billion
Tokens for sale = 14.28 Billion - pre-sale, public sale, slow release combined
Public sale = 7.3% of total





How many fund raised during presale? I think $0.091 is expensive for total token supply 42 Billion

$2.7 Million sold in pre-sale in Q4 2017.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on March 09, 2018, 02:19:22 AM
Erik Vollstaedt, Bitnation's Community Director and Lead Ambassador and Bitnation's Legal Team presenting Legal Skills for World Citizens to Bitnation supporters in Barcelona

You can watch it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO2cpCvJlWY&t=2s


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace on March 09, 2018, 03:47:31 PM
Dear Community,

We would like to share with you the Great review by Crypto Freedom about Bitnation’s Token Sale Event

https://youtu.be/zCeQIY-y1XQ


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace on March 09, 2018, 07:22:37 PM
Hello everyone,

We are proud to share this article:

Bitnation CFO Dr. John Mathews and Board Adviser David Drake in Irish Tech News today "Dr. John Mathews, ACA, Chief Finance Officer at Bitnation, says: “Cryptocurrencies can compliment current monetary systems by ‘de-layering’ banks to produce faster, cheaper and more efficient services.”

https://irishtechnews.ie/change-or-die-why-we-will-see-some-banks-launching-cryptocurrencies-soon/


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace on March 09, 2018, 08:57:13 PM
Hi guys,

We are here to share this great article by Tim Alper about Bitnation entitled:
"Blockchain and e-governance: from Estonia to BITNATION"

https://cryptoinsider.com/content/blockchain-e-governance-estonia-bitnation/index.html


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on March 10, 2018, 12:33:21 AM
Hi everyone, a good article from IBTimes UK last year.

IBTimes UK: Bitnation launches Pangea jurisdiction for creating nations on the blockchain

Here's the link: https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bitnation-launches-pangea-jurisdiction-creating-nations-blockchain-1641611



Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on March 10, 2018, 02:11:58 AM
Bitnation is at CoinCodex!

Here's the link: https://coincodex.com/ico/bitnation/


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on March 10, 2018, 04:07:50 AM
Susanne and Bitnation among 5 FinTech Companies CoinTelegraph recommend

You can read it here: https://cointelegraph.com/news/5-fintech-companies-to-shape-the-future-of-money


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 10, 2018, 06:43:46 AM

   Dear Community ,

  We are sharing here an article on Medium about an analysis of Bitnation Pangea (PAT)

  ICO Analysis: A Blockchain-Based Governance Platform

  https://medium.com/research-center/bitnation-pangea-pat-ico-analysis-a-blockchain-based-governance-platform-8eb32eebfde5


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 10, 2018, 06:52:50 AM


An article in BItGuru on"The Decentralized and Borderless Government That Is Bitnation"

https://www.bitguru.co.uk/decentralized-governance-through-bitnation/


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 10, 2018, 07:30:01 AM

 
    Here's  a Review and Rating done by Icolink on Bitnation-The Pangea Arbitration Token (PAT)

       For a link     

       https://icolink.com/identity-reputation-ico-list/ad/bitnation,366.html


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 10, 2018, 08:55:53 AM
Dear Community ,

Here's a video of Rick Falkvinge describing  Bitnation via TED talks!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhIrpuHeJEg


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on March 11, 2018, 12:08:54 AM
Dear Community,

Please take some time to read this article about whether new technologies offer governance alternatives to the Westphalian Nation State:

https://globalchallenges.org/our-work/quarterly-reports/remodelling-global-cooperation/bitnation-pangea


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: komawei on March 11, 2018, 12:54:25 PM
Dear Community,

Please take some time to read this article about whether new technologies offer governance alternatives to the Westphalian Nation State:

https://globalchallenges.org/our-work/quarterly-reports/remodelling-global-cooperation/bitnation-pangea
BITNATION block chain public notarization is currently used for a series of legal purposes -- marriage, testament, birth certificate, company registration, land ownership, freedom agreement, loan agreement and so on. Is it recognized by the country where it is located?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace on March 11, 2018, 04:13:31 PM
Hello everyone,

We are here to share this video about a new contributor's review:
BITNATION ICO REVIEW/ PANGEA TOKEN SALE/ WILL CENTRALIZED GOVERNANCE MODEL DIE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSAODvJ1hSM


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace on March 11, 2018, 04:37:26 PM
Hello everyone,

We are here to share this article about Bitnation being a Virtual Nation By BTC Greek:
Bitnation: A Virtual ‘Nation’ on the Blockchain

https://btcgeek.com/bitnation-virtual-nation-blockchain/


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace on March 11, 2018, 05:16:49 PM
Hello everyone,

We are here to share this new review about our very own Bitnation:
Bitnation ICO | The Internet of Sovereignty

https://coinlauncher.io/bitnation-ico


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace on March 11, 2018, 06:24:21 PM
Hello everyone,

Check out Bitnation on Steemit an article is posted by danizaharie:

"Global Nations 2.0"

https://steemit.com/blockchain/@danizaharie/global-nations-2-0


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace on March 11, 2018, 06:59:51 PM
Hello everyone,

Check out Bitnation on Steemit an article is posted by zzdenis:

**Governments 2.0**

https://steemit.com/blockchain/@zzdenis/governments-2-0



Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace on March 11, 2018, 07:46:12 PM
Hello everyone,

Check out Bitnation on Steemit an article is posted by geisty:

**A Post-America Decentralized Future**

https://steemit.com/abundant/@geisty/58ljga-a-post-america-decentralized-future


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace on March 11, 2018, 08:34:05 PM
Dear community,

Check out Bitnation on Steemit an article is posted by bubu4845:

**Bitnation ICO Review**

https://steemit.com/blockchain/@bubu4845/bitnation-ico-review


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on March 12, 2018, 02:03:14 AM
Dear Community,

Please take some time to read this article about whether new technologies offer governance alternatives to the Westphalian Nation State:

https://globalchallenges.org/our-work/quarterly-reports/remodelling-global-cooperation/bitnation-pangea
BITNATION block chain public notarization is currently used for a series of legal purposes -- marriage, testament, birth certificate, company registration, land ownership, freedom agreement, loan agreement and so on. Is it recognized by the country where it is located?

The Pangea Software is a Decentralized Opt-In Jurisdiction where users can make legally binding agreements under any legal code, conduct peer-to-peer arbitration and create and join voluntary borderless Nations and organisations. These decentralised Nations and organisations can also offer governance services to their citizens in the form of third party DApps.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on March 12, 2018, 02:28:58 AM
Hi community members,

PANGEA 0.3.3. IS RELEASED ON ANDROID. It includes some bug fixes and UI/UX upgrades since the last release, and the ability to have "Nation Group Chats" to speak with other Citizens of your Nation(s). Please don’t share private information in the chats, since anyone can join the chat channels now. Keep in mind that this software release is still early stage - don’t keep more ETH in your wallet than what you need to create, join and leave Nations (0.04 ETH is plenty to conduct those actions). Search for BITNATION in the Google Play store!

Download it here https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.bitnation


Follow us: https://t.me/bitnationpangea


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on March 12, 2018, 12:27:00 PM
Dear all,

We are excited to share with you the latest release of our Android app.

Check it out here: https://lifeboat.com/blog/2018/03/bitnation-android-apps-on-google


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: DrearyUrbanite on March 12, 2018, 12:40:12 PM
I checked out Bitnation on Youtube and other media channels and I was surprised this has been around for so many years. I haven't heard a single word about it until recently. It sounds like a very interesting approach to borderless nations and I am curious how the main sale will go. I think the community should support endeavors like yours.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 12, 2018, 01:48:01 PM
Dear Community ,

We are stoked to share a great review on TechBullion !!

 "BitNation is doing something other decentralized platforms have never done before. With the Pangea jurisdiction and the PAT token, they are developing the first Decentralized
  Borderless Voluntary Nation (DBVN). The platform is creating a paradigm shift that might shake the very core of global governments."

       https://www.techbullion.com/a-review-of-bitnation-world-citizenship-project-and-ico/


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace on March 12, 2018, 06:02:36 PM
Hello everyone,

We are proud to share this awesome article about Bitnation :

"BITNATION - World's First Decentralized Borderless Voluntary Nation"

https://tsabart.blogspot.nl/2018/03/bitnation.html


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on March 13, 2018, 01:43:35 AM
I checked out Bitnation on Youtube and other media channels and I was surprised this has been around for so many years. I haven't heard a single word about it until recently. It sounds like a very interesting approach to borderless nations and I am curious how the main sale will go. I think the community should support endeavors like yours.

Yes, founded in 2014. Skeptical about the virtue and value of international interventionism, Bitnation’s Founder Susanne Tarkowski Tempelhof, begin work in October 2012 on designing and advocating peer-to-peer governance solutions. Her first public talk on decentralized, competitive governance was in TEDx Gothenburg (Sweden), that same month, and days afterwards she signed a book deal to write about the idea that became Bitnation, which she then called The Googlement.

To research the book she spent eighteen months travelling throughout the world, visiting and speaking about self-governing communities, from private cities in Honduras and the Dominican Republic to shanty towns in Brazil, Indonesia, Thailand and Vietnam, and on to anarchist and crypto startups in Berlin, the Czech Republic and Switzerland and Libertarian communities in Chile, Guatemala and Sweden. As the decentralized tech of Bitcoin, blockchain, and Ethereum technologies matured, it quickly became clear to her that the Bitnation vision was far from utopian, and could be realized much sooner and to a significantly lower cost than initially thought.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on March 13, 2018, 05:03:51 AM

And after all I still don't understand, after studying the site, what's my benefit to become a Bitnation citizen alongside with being a EU citizen?



So a jurisdiction is a domain of law. In which any agreements can made and upheld to a set of agreed rules (a legal code). Because ours is a peer-to-peer jurisdiction, those rules are agreed between the parties to each agreement, not by any third party or authority. The Pangea jurisdiction allows these agreements to be made, and provides a native human arbitration system to resolve disputes - and a reputation system for enforcement.

In addition to p2p agreements, users can also create their own voluntary communities- nations- for collective agreements, and to offer governance services. These can use the Pangea jurisdiction to their own set of collective rules.

Since they are voluntary (nobody is forced to join them, and any citizen can leave at any time) these communities must compete for citizens in a free market for governance - and it’s perfectly possible - even likely - that users will join several nations to access different services (e.g. a occupation based nation, say for employment and education - e.g. a wheat farmers nation, or a solidity developers nation, another for their local needs - say a neighborhood or city association for trash  collection, basic income and local services, and a cultural nation for religious or other social services - like a nation of Goths or Buddhists.) so governance becomes like other aspects of life, a matter of choosing what suits you best.



Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: ranggenga on March 13, 2018, 06:46:23 AM
Dear Community,

PANGEA 0.3.3. IS RELEASED ON ANDROID. It includes some bug fixes and UI/UX upgrades since the last release, and the ability to have "Nation Group Chats" to speak with other Citizens of your Nation(s). Please don’t share private information in the chats, since anyone can join the chat channels now. Keep in mind that this software release is still early stage - don’t keep more ETH in your wallet than what you need to create, join and leave Nations (0.04 ETH is plenty to conduct those actions). Search for BITNATION in the Google Play store!

Download it here https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.bitnation


Follow us: https://t.me/bitnationpangea
Does this means that the application is still in beta version?
If that were true, why don't you open bug bounty program, so that you could get easier building process on the application.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 13, 2018, 09:55:54 AM
Dear Community,

PANGEA 0.3.3. IS RELEASED ON ANDROID. It includes some bug fixes and UI/UX upgrades since the last release, and the ability to have "Nation Group Chats" to speak with other Citizens of your Nation(s). Please don’t share private information in the chats, since anyone can join the chat channels now. Keep in mind that this software release is still early stage - don’t keep more ETH in your wallet than what you need to create, join and leave Nations (0.04 ETH is plenty to conduct those actions). Search for BITNATION in the Google Play store!

Download it here https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.bitnation


Follow us: https://t.me/bitnationpangea
Does this means that the application is still in beta version?
If that were true, why don't you open bug bounty program, so that you could get easier building process on the application.
Hello , The application is in early Beta.Yes - we have planned a bug bounty program which will go live after the ICO, in the meantime you can post issues on Github


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: PoweredBy SMF on March 13, 2018, 10:54:36 AM
I always dream of the world and OPOC I like platform Bitnation One = One community, I am very happy to join this community who has the same dream as me, the 4th industrial revolution is All around us and we all need to join together, the majority of our humanity will becoming the outsider of this great future revolution. The new world, unimaginable compassion and unfolded prosperity, has just begun for everyone.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: LiteNight on March 13, 2018, 02:27:52 PM
Пpивeт! Oтчeт cдaвaть кyдa тo нaдo или вoт тaк нa фopyмe нopм - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3081168.msg31949196#msg31949196 ??

Hello! Hello! Report where to take? Or is it convenient for you on the forum? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3081168.msg31949196#msg31949196 ??


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Cryptospy007 on March 13, 2018, 02:33:50 PM
pls provide link to ur website


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace on March 13, 2018, 02:53:29 PM
Hello everyone,

We are proud to share this video about Bitnation's Chief Legal Officer Sonja Prstec on Bitnation and relations with existing legal jurisdictions.

"Devcon'17 :: Sonja Prstec - Bitnation and Existing Legal Jurisdictions"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT5xYNUp5oA&list=PL4MxK0pdLMf9YROIICCLjevgKIEGF1kJR&index=10


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace on March 13, 2018, 04:56:34 PM
Hello everyone,

We are proud to share this article by Anti-cash: BITNATION: A United, Borderless Nation

"Bitnation, is a nation without border; a nation without limit in which all persons are free to become fully active citizens."

https://anti.cash/bitnation-a-united-borderless-nation/


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: gogok on March 13, 2018, 05:47:33 PM
Hello everyone,

We are proud to share this article by Anti-cash: BITNATION: A United, Borderless Nation

"Bitnation, is a nation without border; a nation without limit in which all persons are free to become fully active citizens."

https://anti.cash/bitnation-a-united-borderless-nation/
This is an excellent article that describes the real problems of many countries. In some countries these problems are not noticeable at first glance, but in some they are clearly expressed. Perhaps in more democratic countries there will be no big problems in integrating this service. But in countries with large corruption, stubborn officials are unlikely to be happy with such a service. I think this is an excellent project. This is what many are missing.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: thedon1997 on March 13, 2018, 06:23:38 PM
Dear Community,
We would like to share this news with you!

Bitnation wins UNESCO Netexplo Grand Prix  2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iLGzP2Lr7c


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Rowane on March 13, 2018, 06:24:48 PM
Yeah, i agree, lots of promotion are needed for this platform to work. So far it seems quite nice, i'll be waiting for more updates


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace on March 13, 2018, 06:28:34 PM
Hello everyone,

We are proud to share this video:

Netexplo Forum 2017 | UNESCO Paris

**AND THE WINNER IS...BITNATION**

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iLGzP2Lr7c


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: idioma1 on March 13, 2018, 06:29:04 PM
What discount or bonus during pre-sale?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: thedon1997 on March 13, 2018, 06:40:24 PM
pls provide link to ur website

Hey Cryptospy007,
Here is the link : https://bitnation.co


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: thedon1997 on March 13, 2018, 07:09:42 PM
Yeah, i agree, lots of promotion are needed for this platform to work. So far it seems quite nice, i'll be waiting for more updates

Hey Rowane,
The project is pretty young. Please do join our announcements channel and telegram group to stay updated in all the recent news as we have many to share!
https://t.me/bitnationpangea
https://t.me/PangeaBitnation


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on March 14, 2018, 12:55:02 AM
pls provide link to ur website

Here's the link to the website: https://tse.bitnation.co/

We also have:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/MyBitNation
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MyBitnation
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/3832876
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGOeAGtILGLCT5j0KTf5pBw
Steemit: https://steemit.com/@bitnation
Telegram Announcement Channel: https://t.me/bitnationpangea
Telegram Group: https://t.me/PangeaBitnation

Please follow us.  ;)



Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on March 14, 2018, 05:36:57 AM
What discount or bonus during pre-sale?

The Pre-Sale was 2017 Q4, the Public Main Sale will occur from 25 March 2018 (16:00 CET) to 25 April 2018 (16:00 CET.

There is no bonus during this sale, it will be a reverse auction starting price will be 0.091$ Per PAT, the price will decrease at a predefined rate until its minimum of 0.009$ Per PAT at the end. Bid at the price you are happy to buy at - the auction ends when the $ cap has been reached. Everyone pays the same amount per token.         


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: nhungtruong379 on March 14, 2018, 05:43:53 AM
PANGEA 0.3.3. IS RELEASED ON ANDROID. It includes some bug fixes and UI/UX upgrades since the last release, and the ability to have "Nation Group Chats" to speak with other Citizens of your Nation(s). Please don’t share private information in the chats, since anyone can join the chat channels now. Keep in mind that this software release is still early stage - don’t keep more ETH in your wallet than what you need to create, join and leave Nations (0.04 ETH is plenty to conduct those actions). Search for BITNATION in the Google Play store!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on March 14, 2018, 10:28:49 AM
Hello Everyone,

It delights us to share with you a great in-depth review by ICOtokennews. "BitNation is creating buzz in the current ICO market, as it has a promising timeline and reasonable goals for their ICO rounds". ....If you are looking to investing in an ICO, BitNation has proven to possess all the important elements to succeed in the future."

https://www.icotokennews.com/icos/bitnation/


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 14, 2018, 10:43:51 AM
Пpивeт! Oтчeт cдaвaть кyдa тo нaдo или вoт тaк нa фopyмe нopм - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3081168.msg31949196#msg31949196 ??

Hello! Hello! Report where to take? Or is it convenient for you on the forum? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3081168.msg31949196#msg31949196 ??

Yes. For all Bounty related questions you need to get in touch with link you mentioned :)

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3081168


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on March 15, 2018, 03:56:50 AM
Bitnation and Stox now offer 2 opportunities to earn PAT and STX RISK-FREE!!!

Answer the following question correctly and earn a potion of the 320,000 PAT and 10,000 STX prize pool🏆

You have nothing to lose and everything to gain

Predict now RISK FREE!
https://goo.gl/FnV8pq


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Ponya on March 15, 2018, 03:59:47 AM
What countries can participate?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on March 15, 2018, 06:03:00 AM
What countries can participate?

US IP addresses are blocked, everybody else can participate!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: bestpikka on March 15, 2018, 06:38:57 AM
This project does have a nice concept and has a clear purpose. I strongly support this project for the more developed again hopefully I can also participate in this project.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 15, 2018, 01:45:00 PM
Hello All,

We'd like to share with you a write up on "Bitnation’s Pangea to Enable Peer-to-Peer Governance, Compete with Nation States" 

We’ve all felt the disruptive tremors Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies continue to send cascading through the world of finance. We’ve also witnessed the frantic measures that many of the major Nation States of the world have taken in an effort to protect their central banks’ financial monopoly and control the procession of cryptocurrency into our financial infrastructure.

https://cryptocoremedia.com/bitnations-pangea-enable-peer-peer-governance-compete-nation-states/


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: thedon1997 on March 15, 2018, 03:35:21 PM
Dear Community,
We would like to tell you that the steemit article on us is number 2 trending in cryptocurrencies!
https://steemit.com/blockchain/@beautifulday/nations-and-the-test-of-time


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: infested999 on March 15, 2018, 09:41:45 PM
I'am glad to be a part of a project like BitNation, strong and confident on the change that is has to be done in our generation. And the timing is just perfect, together we can help to promote and grow this project first in the ICO, then into the real life!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: fajarkus12 on March 15, 2018, 11:07:14 PM
I'am glad to be a part of a project like BitNation, strong and confident on the change that is has to be done in our generation. And the timing is just perfect, together we can help to promote and grow this project first in the ICO, then into the real life!

This is old project so i think people no need to worry about bitnation and seem will success in this ico because bitnation already has real product and development. Besides that i am sure this project will be impressive because this project is unique about virtual nation, and as i know this is the first in the cryptocurrency world


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on March 16, 2018, 01:20:42 AM
UPDATE

The iPhone app is with the Apple store now - it will be available after approval in a few days.  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on March 16, 2018, 05:12:32 AM
Dear Community,

We would like to share this steemit post with you!

Bitnation what's the big idea?

https://mspsteem.com/blockchain/@robertthomas/bitnation-what-s-the-big-idea


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 16, 2018, 07:26:54 AM
What discount or bonus during pre-sale?
Hello , There was a 15% bonus for participation in the first hour, 10% for participation in the first day (after the first hour) and a 5% bonus for participation in the first week (after the first day).


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: DrearyUrbanite on March 16, 2018, 12:30:09 PM
I checked out Bitnation on Youtube and other media channels and I was surprised this has been around for so many years. I haven't heard a single word about it until recently. It sounds like a very interesting approach to borderless nations and I am curious how the main sale will go. I think the community should support endeavors like yours.

Yes, founded in 2014. Skeptical about the virtue and value of international interventionism, Bitnation’s Founder Susanne Tarkowski Tempelhof, begin work in October 2012 on designing and advocating peer-to-peer governance solutions. Her first public talk on decentralized, competitive governance was in TEDx Gothenburg (Sweden), that same month, and days afterwards she signed a book deal to write about the idea that became Bitnation, which she then called The Googlement.

To research the book she spent eighteen months travelling throughout the world, visiting and speaking about self-governing communities, from private cities in Honduras and the Dominican Republic to shanty towns in Brazil, Indonesia, Thailand and Vietnam, and on to anarchist and crypto startups in Berlin, the Czech Republic and Switzerland and Libertarian communities in Chile, Guatemala and Sweden. As the decentralized tech of Bitcoin, blockchain, and Ethereum technologies matured, it quickly became clear to her that the Bitnation vision was far from utopian, and could be realized much sooner and to a significantly lower cost than initially thought.


I will definitely keep an eye on this and spend more time on thinking about the idea itself. It is a very challenging concept in regards to our global status quo. That makes it an outstanding project compared to others, at least on paper for now.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: thedon1997 on March 16, 2018, 02:55:43 PM
Dear Community !!

We are happy to invite you all to Bitnation's meetup in Berlin to celebrate the first day of our ICO: March 25.

https://www.facebook.com/events/1375468992558212/


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace on March 16, 2018, 09:44:11 PM
Hello everyone,

We are proud to share this Steemit article by matthewtherry:

Bitnation: the virtual nations of tomorrow!

"Bitnation’s vision is to create an ecosystem where people can band together to develop Decentralized Voluntary Borderless Nations"

https://mspsteem.com/blockchain/@mathewtherry/bitnation-the-virtual-nations-of-tomorrow


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on March 16, 2018, 11:37:58 PM
I checked out Bitnation on Youtube and other media channels and I was surprised this has been around for so many years. I haven't heard a single word about it until recently. It sounds like a very interesting approach to borderless nations and I am curious how the main sale will go. I think the community should support endeavors like yours.

Yes, founded in 2014. Skeptical about the virtue and value of international interventionism, Bitnation’s Founder Susanne Tarkowski Tempelhof, begin work in October 2012 on designing and advocating peer-to-peer governance solutions. Her first public talk on decentralized, competitive governance was in TEDx Gothenburg (Sweden), that same month, and days afterwards she signed a book deal to write about the idea that became Bitnation, which she then called The Googlement.

To research the book she spent eighteen months travelling throughout the world, visiting and speaking about self-governing communities, from private cities in Honduras and the Dominican Republic to shanty towns in Brazil, Indonesia, Thailand and Vietnam, and on to anarchist and crypto startups in Berlin, the Czech Republic and Switzerland and Libertarian communities in Chile, Guatemala and Sweden. As the decentralized tech of Bitcoin, blockchain, and Ethereum technologies matured, it quickly became clear to her that the Bitnation vision was far from utopian, and could be realized much sooner and to a significantly lower cost than initially thought.


I will definitely keep an eye on this and spend more time on thinking about the idea itself. It is a very challenging concept in regards to our global status quo. That makes it an outstanding project compared to others, at least on paper for now.

Netexplo Forum 2017 | UNESCO Paris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iLGzP2Lr7c

UNESCO sponsors the NETEXPLO awards. Previous Grand Prix winners include Twitter and Spotify. Bitnation won both the Grand Prix and award for best idea in 2017.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on March 17, 2018, 08:04:55 AM
This project does have a nice concept and has a clear purpose. I strongly support this project for the more developed again hopefully I can also participate in this project.

Thanks a lot for your support Bestpikka.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: sayel on March 17, 2018, 08:35:23 AM
anothere presale of something  ???


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: DrearyUrbanite on March 17, 2018, 12:19:40 PM
I checked out Bitnation on Youtube and other media channels and I was surprised this has been around for so many years. I haven't heard a single word about it until recently. It sounds like a very interesting approach to borderless nations and I am curious how the main sale will go. I think the community should support endeavors like yours.

Yes, founded in 2014. Skeptical about the virtue and value of international interventionism, Bitnation’s Founder Susanne Tarkowski Tempelhof, begin work in October 2012 on designing and advocating peer-to-peer governance solutions. Her first public talk on decentralized, competitive governance was in TEDx Gothenburg (Sweden), that same month, and days afterwards she signed a book deal to write about the idea that became Bitnation, which she then called The Googlement.

To research the book she spent eighteen months travelling throughout the world, visiting and speaking about self-governing communities, from private cities in Honduras and the Dominican Republic to shanty towns in Brazil, Indonesia, Thailand and Vietnam, and on to anarchist and crypto startups in Berlin, the Czech Republic and Switzerland and Libertarian communities in Chile, Guatemala and Sweden. As the decentralized tech of Bitcoin, blockchain, and Ethereum technologies matured, it quickly became clear to her that the Bitnation vision was far from utopian, and could be realized much sooner and to a significantly lower cost than initially thought.


I will definitely keep an eye on this and spend more time on thinking about the idea itself. It is a very challenging concept in regards to our global status quo. That makes it an outstanding project compared to others, at least on paper for now.

Netexplo Forum 2017 | UNESCO Paris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iLGzP2Lr7c

UNESCO sponsors the NETEXPLO awards. Previous Grand Prix winners include Twitter and Spotify. Bitnation won both the Grand Prix and award for best idea in 2017.

Those are all good news and interesting info. Do you expect a strong run on your ICO tokens or does that remain to be seen once the ICO starts? Do you have large pre-ICO requests that you can talk about?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: cashonly on March 17, 2018, 02:18:24 PM
In my opinion a very promising project with an interesting and important idea. I think Bitnation ICO will be successful.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: thedon1997 on March 17, 2018, 03:36:37 PM
In my opinion a very promising project with an interesting and important idea. I think Bitnation ICO will be successful.

Thank you for the support!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on March 18, 2018, 02:43:45 AM
Dear Community,

We are excited to share with you this article about using Blockchain to Change the World's Governments. Enjoy!

https://www.thebalance.com/using-the-blockchain-to-change-the-worlds-governments-4049981


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on March 18, 2018, 03:02:01 AM
I checked out Bitnation on Youtube and other media channels and I was surprised this has been around for so many years. I haven't heard a single word about it until recently. It sounds like a very interesting approach to borderless nations and I am curious how the main sale will go. I think the community should support endeavors like yours.

Yes, founded in 2014. Skeptical about the virtue and value of international interventionism, Bitnation’s Founder Susanne Tarkowski Tempelhof, begin work in October 2012 on designing and advocating peer-to-peer governance solutions. Her first public talk on decentralized, competitive governance was in TEDx Gothenburg (Sweden), that same month, and days afterwards she signed a book deal to write about the idea that became Bitnation, which she then called The Googlement.

To research the book she spent eighteen months travelling throughout the world, visiting and speaking about self-governing communities, from private cities in Honduras and the Dominican Republic to shanty towns in Brazil, Indonesia, Thailand and Vietnam, and on to anarchist and crypto startups in Berlin, the Czech Republic and Switzerland and Libertarian communities in Chile, Guatemala and Sweden. As the decentralized tech of Bitcoin, blockchain, and Ethereum technologies matured, it quickly became clear to her that the Bitnation vision was far from utopian, and could be realized much sooner and to a significantly lower cost than initially thought.


I will definitely keep an eye on this and spend more time on thinking about the idea itself. It is a very challenging concept in regards to our global status quo. That makes it an outstanding project compared to others, at least on paper for now.

Netexplo Forum 2017 | UNESCO Paris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iLGzP2Lr7c

UNESCO sponsors the NETEXPLO awards. Previous Grand Prix winners include Twitter and Spotify. Bitnation won both the Grand Prix and award for best idea in 2017.

Those are all good news and interesting info. Do you expect a strong run on your ICO tokens or does that remain to be seen once the ICO starts? Do you have large pre-ICO requests that you can talk about?

DrearyUrbanite,

We have had strong reviews and a lot of purchaser interest including substantial pre ICO requests. We cannot provide any more detail at this time.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 18, 2018, 07:05:55 AM
Dear Community,

TruDex Pro-Report gives Bitnation's ICO a 91% score based on "Mougayar’s Benchmark"


https://www.trudex.io/product/bitnation-ico-pro-report/


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Mythul on March 18, 2018, 02:14:31 PM
Dear Community,

TruDex Pro-Report gives Bitnation's ICO a 91% score based on "Mougayar’s Benchmark"


https://www.trudex.io/product/bitnation-ico-pro-report/

I haven't heard of the news until recently. It sounds like a very interesting way for countries without borders, and I'm curious about what the main sales will be. I think the community should support efforts like you.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on March 19, 2018, 12:48:49 AM
Dear Community,

TruDex Pro-Report gives Bitnation's ICO a 91% score based on "Mougayar’s Benchmark"


https://www.trudex.io/product/bitnation-ico-pro-report/

I haven't heard of the news until recently. It sounds like a very interesting way for countries without borders, and I'm curious about what the main sales will be. I think the community should support efforts like you.

Thank you for the support!

You can find news, videos, reviews, and a lot more about Bitnation here: https://t.me/bitnationpangea  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: DrearyUrbanite on March 19, 2018, 04:48:11 AM
I checked out Bitnation on Youtube and other media channels and I was surprised this has been around for so many years. I haven't heard a single word about it until recently. It sounds like a very interesting approach to borderless nations and I am curious how the main sale will go. I think the community should support endeavors like yours.

Yes, founded in 2014. Skeptical about the virtue and value of international interventionism, Bitnation’s Founder Susanne Tarkowski Tempelhof, begin work in October 2012 on designing and advocating peer-to-peer governance solutions. Her first public talk on decentralized, competitive governance was in TEDx Gothenburg (Sweden), that same month, and days afterwards she signed a book deal to write about the idea that became Bitnation, which she then called The Googlement.

To research the book she spent eighteen months travelling throughout the world, visiting and speaking about self-governing communities, from private cities in Honduras and the Dominican Republic to shanty towns in Brazil, Indonesia, Thailand and Vietnam, and on to anarchist and crypto startups in Berlin, the Czech Republic and Switzerland and Libertarian communities in Chile, Guatemala and Sweden. As the decentralized tech of Bitcoin, blockchain, and Ethereum technologies matured, it quickly became clear to her that the Bitnation vision was far from utopian, and could be realized much sooner and to a significantly lower cost than initially thought.


I will definitely keep an eye on this and spend more time on thinking about the idea itself. It is a very challenging concept in regards to our global status quo. That makes it an outstanding project compared to others, at least on paper for now.

Netexplo Forum 2017 | UNESCO Paris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iLGzP2Lr7c

UNESCO sponsors the NETEXPLO awards. Previous Grand Prix winners include Twitter and Spotify. Bitnation won both the Grand Prix and award for best idea in 2017.

Those are all good news and interesting info. Do you expect a strong run on your ICO tokens or does that remain to be seen once the ICO starts? Do you have large pre-ICO requests that you can talk about?

DrearyUrbanite,

We have had strong reviews and a lot of purchaser interest including substantial pre ICO requests. We cannot provide any more detail at this time.

Ok and will any info be made available in regards to pre-ICO sales or requests before the public sale starts? Are you going to publish sales statistics during the ICO?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: leningradskiy90 on March 19, 2018, 05:07:49 AM
hope this project will be in moon,will be looking forward to update more details,thanks team


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 19, 2018, 09:50:33 AM
Dear Community ,

Here's a blog-post on Steemit about Bitnation Pangea Arbitration Token (PAT) as an example of rule-of-law 2.0

"In a recent blog-post I defined rule of law 2.0 as sovereign law, whereas rule of law 1.0 has been characterized by civil law, and the use of a monopoly on violence. Rule of law 2.0 is made possible with increases in state capacity, from automation with blockchains and what could be called "virtual states"."

https://steemit.com/law/@johan-nygren/bitnation-pangea-arbitration-token-pat-as-an-example-of-rule-of-law-2-0


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 19, 2018, 10:06:18 AM
I checked out Bitnation on Youtube and other media channels and I was surprised this has been around for so many years. I haven't heard a single word about it until recently. It sounds like a very interesting approach to borderless nations and I am curious how the main sale will go. I think the community should support endeavors like yours.

Yes, founded in 2014. Skeptical about the virtue and value of international interventionism, Bitnation’s Founder Susanne Tarkowski Tempelhof, begin work in October 2012 on designing and advocating peer-to-peer governance solutions. Her first public talk on decentralized, competitive governance was in TEDx Gothenburg (Sweden), that same month, and days afterwards she signed a book deal to write about the idea that became Bitnation, which she then called The Googlement.

To research the book she spent eighteen months travelling throughout the world, visiting and speaking about self-governing communities, from private cities in Honduras and the Dominican Republic to shanty towns in Brazil, Indonesia, Thailand and Vietnam, and on to anarchist and crypto startups in Berlin, the Czech Republic and Switzerland and Libertarian communities in Chile, Guatemala and Sweden. As the decentralized tech of Bitcoin, blockchain, and Ethereum technologies matured, it quickly became clear to her that the Bitnation vision was far from utopian, and could be realized much sooner and to a significantly lower cost than initially thought.


I will definitely keep an eye on this and spend more time on thinking about the idea itself. It is a very challenging concept in regards to our global status quo. That makes it an outstanding project compared to others, at least on paper for now.

Netexplo Forum 2017 | UNESCO Paris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iLGzP2Lr7c

UNESCO sponsors the NETEXPLO awards. Previous Grand Prix winners include Twitter and Spotify. Bitnation won both the Grand Prix and award for best idea in 2017.

Those are all good news and interesting info. Do you expect a strong run on your ICO tokens or does that remain to be seen once the ICO starts? Do you have large pre-ICO requests that you can talk about?

DrearyUrbanite,

We have had strong reviews and a lot of purchaser interest including substantial pre ICO requests. We cannot provide any more detail at this time.

Ok and will any info be made available in regards to pre-ICO sales or requests before the public sale starts? Are you going to publish sales statistics during the ICO?
The presale raised 2.7M. Yes there will be a counter on the sale website showing how much ETH is sent to the conract. We will fix the hard cap in ETH on the first day, so you will be able to see how close we are to the cap.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on March 19, 2018, 01:47:11 PM
Dear Community,

We are happy to inform you that Bitnation meet-up at Plateau State University, Jos, Nigeria is on Friday 23 March.   

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2290580


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace on March 19, 2018, 04:21:47 PM
Hello Everyone,

We are here to inform you that Bitnation meet-up in Wa, Ghana is on 24th March, 2018
https://www.facebook.com/events/842011822666513/


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on March 20, 2018, 12:01:54 AM
hope this project will be in moon,will be looking forward to update more details,thanks team

Our Public Token Sale will begin on: 25 March 2018, 16:00 CET. Thank you for the support!!  :)

Website: https://tse.bitnation.co


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on March 20, 2018, 01:39:02 AM
How many days will it take for Bitnation.co to reach their token sale hard-cap limit of $30M?

Answer the question correctly and earn a potion of the 320,000 PAT and 10,000 STX prize pool🏆

You have nothing to lose and everything to gain🧠

Predict now RISK FREE!
https://goo.gl/FnV8p


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on March 20, 2018, 07:07:20 AM
We are only 5 days away from opening our public sale!!

 Our Public Token Sale starts on 25 March 2018, 16:00 CET.

Website: https://tse.bitnation.co

Thank you very much for your support. :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Maslate on March 20, 2018, 09:05:21 AM
We are only 5 days away from opening our public sale!!

 Our Public Token Sale starts on 25 March 2018, 16:00 CET.

Website: https://tse.bitnation.co

Thank you very much for your support. :)
That is good, I hope we will have a successful ICO.
By the way, may I know if how much were raised during the pre-sale, the figures will really help me to decide how much I will put during the coming token sale.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on March 21, 2018, 12:16:49 AM
Dear Community!

We are excited to share this article with you that has been featured on NASDAQ.com!

"Bitnation Launches World’s First Blockchain-Based Virtual Nation Constitution"

https://www.nasdaq.com/article/bitnation-launches-worlds-first-blockchain-based-virtual-nation-constitution-cm584980


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on March 21, 2018, 01:01:24 AM
We are only 5 days away from opening our public sale!!

 Our Public Token Sale starts on 25 March 2018, 16:00 CET.

Website: https://tse.bitnation.co

Thank you very much for your support. :)
That is good, I hope we will have a successful ICO.
By the way, may I know if how much were raised during the pre-sale, the figures will really help me to decide how much I will put during the coming token sale.

The presale was at the end of 2017 and raised $2.7M. This ETH will be added to the crowdsale contract in the 1st hour. Thank you for your support!  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: filisia on March 21, 2018, 01:52:25 AM
We are only 5 days away from opening our public sale!!

 Our Public Token Sale starts on 25 March 2018, 16:00 CET.

Website: https://tse.bitnation.co

Thank you very much for your support. :)
That is good, I hope we will have a successful ICO.
By the way, may I know if how much were raised during the pre-sale, the figures will really help me to decide how much I will put during the coming token sale.
sales will start soon, hopefully his sales run smoothly and will many investors join so that his sales can achieve targeted results, success is always this project.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: jametoti on March 21, 2018, 02:17:41 AM
The team always updates the development of Bitnation in their medium, Bitnation project is always interesting to follow and support it, hopefully Bitnation project with interesting concept can attract crowd of investors to invest in Bitnation project.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: qqvip5957 on March 21, 2018, 02:18:14 AM
hope this project will be in moon,will be looking forward to update more details,thanks team


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Maslate on March 21, 2018, 02:21:55 AM
We are only 5 days away from opening our public sale!!

 Our Public Token Sale starts on 25 March 2018, 16:00 CET.

Website: https://tse.bitnation.co

Thank you very much for your support. :)
That is good, I hope we will have a successful ICO.
By the way, may I know if how much were raised during the pre-sale, the figures will really help me to decide how much I will put during the coming token sale.
sales will start soon, hopefully his sales run smoothly and will many investors join so that his sales can achieve targeted results, success is always this project.
That's all we want, the success of this project matters and we like the max success like hitting the hard cap.
Since the ICO has not started yet, and I have already got the info of the pre-sale result, now I would like to know the hard cap and the duration of sale.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on March 21, 2018, 04:52:20 AM
We are only 5 days away from opening our public sale!!

 Our Public Token Sale starts on 25 March 2018, 16:00 CET.

Website: https://tse.bitnation.co

Thank you very much for your support. :)
That is good, I hope we will have a successful ICO.
By the way, may I know if how much were raised during the pre-sale, the figures will really help me to decide how much I will put during the coming token sale.
sales will start soon, hopefully his sales run smoothly and will many investors join so that his sales can achieve targeted results, success is always this project.
That's all we want, the success of this project matters and we like the max success like hitting the hard cap.
Since the ICO has not started yet, and I have already got the info of the pre-sale result, now I would like to know the hard cap and the duration of sale.

The duration of the public main sale is: 25 March 2018 (16:00 CET) to 25 April 2018 (16:00 CET)

The hard cap is: US$27.3 Million (total $30 Million, but $2.7 Million sold in pre-sale in Q4 2017)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: mullzerwar on March 21, 2018, 06:21:11 AM
The team always updates the development of Bitnation in their medium, Bitnation project is always interesting to follow and support it, hopefully Bitnation project with interesting concept can attract crowd of investors to invest in Bitnation project.
I also see the interesting things in this project, let's support this project until it will develop success for the future, this project gives many benefits and deserves to succeed.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: DrearyUrbanite on March 21, 2018, 06:56:22 AM
I checked out Bitnation on Youtube and other media channels and I was surprised this has been around for so many years. I haven't heard a single word about it until recently. It sounds like a very interesting approach to borderless nations and I am curious how the main sale will go. I think the community should support endeavors like yours.

Yes, founded in 2014. Skeptical about the virtue and value of international interventionism, Bitnation’s Founder Susanne Tarkowski Tempelhof, begin work in October 2012 on designing and advocating peer-to-peer governance solutions. Her first public talk on decentralized, competitive governance was in TEDx Gothenburg (Sweden), that same month, and days afterwards she signed a book deal to write about the idea that became Bitnation, which she then called The Googlement.

To research the book she spent eighteen months travelling throughout the world, visiting and speaking about self-governing communities, from private cities in Honduras and the Dominican Republic to shanty towns in Brazil, Indonesia, Thailand and Vietnam, and on to anarchist and crypto startups in Berlin, the Czech Republic and Switzerland and Libertarian communities in Chile, Guatemala and Sweden. As the decentralized tech of Bitcoin, blockchain, and Ethereum technologies matured, it quickly became clear to her that the Bitnation vision was far from utopian, and could be realized much sooner and to a significantly lower cost than initially thought.


I will definitely keep an eye on this and spend more time on thinking about the idea itself. It is a very challenging concept in regards to our global status quo. That makes it an outstanding project compared to others, at least on paper for now.

Netexplo Forum 2017 | UNESCO Paris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iLGzP2Lr7c

UNESCO sponsors the NETEXPLO awards. Previous Grand Prix winners include Twitter and Spotify. Bitnation won both the Grand Prix and award for best idea in 2017.

Those are all good news and interesting info. Do you expect a strong run on your ICO tokens or does that remain to be seen once the ICO starts? Do you have large pre-ICO requests that you can talk about?

DrearyUrbanite,

We have had strong reviews and a lot of purchaser interest including substantial pre ICO requests. We cannot provide any more detail at this time.

Ok and will any info be made available in regards to pre-ICO sales or requests before the public sale starts? Are you going to publish sales statistics during the ICO?
The presale raised 2.7M. Yes there will be a counter on the sale website showing how much ETH is sent to the conract. We will fix the hard cap in ETH on the first day, so you will be able to see how close we are to the cap.

I like that! I am really looking forward to your ICO as, beyond doubt, this is a very unique project. We'll see what the market audience thinks.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Ricsung on March 21, 2018, 07:18:06 AM
I don't quite understand the meaning of this project. About Pangea, I can create my own DBVN. Can I create what I want, which is recognized by other countries in real society?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 21, 2018, 10:19:26 AM
Dear All,

We would like to share with you a medium article on "BITNATION AND CRYPTOCURRENCY"

Pangea is a secure mesh network forming a distributed web, accessed through a smartphone-chat user friendly interface. Blockchain agnostic smart contract functionality powers the Pangea Jurisdiction, currently implemented with Ethereum. Pangea is a decentralized market for legal services. Create and execute peer-to-peer agreements seamlessly across the world, resolve disputes fairly and efficiently. Choose an arbitrator, or become an arbitrator in your field of expertise. On Pangea you can create your own Decentralised Borderless Voluntary Nation (DBVN).

 https://medium.com/@igpreal/bitnation-and-cryptocurrency-c079ac4630e3


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 21, 2018, 10:21:20 AM
I don't quite understand the meaning of this project. About Pangea, I can create my own DBVN. Can I create what I want, which is recognized by other countries in real society?
Bitnation is providing governance services independently from nation-state jurisdictions. It enables individuals as well as entire communities to reclaim their sovereignty by creating jurisdictions on the blockchain. We are currently working on the very infrastructure that will enable DApp developers to build governance services and entire nations (DBVNs: Decentralized borderless voluntary nations) on top of our Pangea platform.

Pangea will include ID and reputation services, as well as Ethereum smart contracts to sign agreements, create new laws as well as DBVNs. One critical function of a jurisdiction is dispute resolution. We will provide a market of arbitrators competing for reputation and clients, in stark contrast to existing court services that consume time and money.
 
What we are trying to accomplish is to enable people all over the world to live independently from the geographic apartheid that is imposed upon us by nation-states. People should enjoy high-quality governance services without being discriminated against based on their place of birth. The value we aim to provide is to enable everyone with a smartphone to opt-out from the system they live in without having to move geographically. To choose governance services freely just like you choose your phone provider.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on March 21, 2018, 11:11:19 AM
Dear All,

We are happy to share with you the seemit article, "Bitnation – A Decentralized Blockchain Government"

In each state, the quality of governance is a critical matter. People wish to rely on governance, and they are more likely to have confidence in it when decisions are more transparent and accountable. It is also significant because it helps people feel that local government will support their community interests regardless of their divergent opinions. However, there are many countries overwhelmed by corruption today.

Unfortunately, this makes people lose their hope in politics leaders and wish they lived in another country with a different type of governance. What is Bitnation aiming to change and what do they propose to solve this problem?

https://steemit.com/blockchain/@danizaharie/bitnation-a-decentralized-blockchain-government

Enjoy!!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on March 22, 2018, 12:11:00 AM
How many days will it take for Bitnation.co to reach their token sale hard-cap limit of $30M?

Answer the question correctly and earn a potion of the 320,000 PAT and 10,000 STX prize pool🏆

You have nothing to lose and everything to gain🧠

Predict now RISK FREE!
https://goo.gl/FnV8p


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: lps21 on March 22, 2018, 12:40:18 AM
Dear Community,

We would like to share the first look at BitNation Pangea Android App: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7owjjwQS-Ss


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Ricsung on March 22, 2018, 07:07:16 AM
I don't quite understand the meaning of this project. About Pangea, I can create my own DBVN. Can I create what I want, which is recognized by other countries in real society?
Bitnation is providing governance services independently from nation-state jurisdictions. It enables individuals as well as entire communities to reclaim their sovereignty by creating jurisdictions on the blockchain. We are currently working on the very infrastructure that will enable DApp developers to build governance services and entire nations (DBVNs: Decentralized borderless voluntary nations) on top of our Pangea platform.

Pangea will include ID and reputation services, as well as Ethereum smart contracts to sign agreements, create new laws as well as DBVNs. One critical function of a jurisdiction is dispute resolution. We will provide a market of arbitrators competing for reputation and clients, in stark contrast to existing court services that consume time and money.
 
What we are trying to accomplish is to enable people all over the world to live independently from the geographic apartheid that is imposed upon us by nation-states. People should enjoy high-quality governance services without being discriminated against based on their place of birth. The value we aim to provide is to enable everyone with a smartphone to opt-out from the system they live in without having to move geographically. To choose governance services freely just like you choose your phone provider.

I got it. The beneficial impact of creating a country independent of the real society is huge, and it takes a lot of time and energy to improve and transform it.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: cashonly on March 22, 2018, 08:00:19 AM
Hello. Could you explain me please in more simple terms what is Holon? What rights does he have?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on March 22, 2018, 10:00:47 AM
Hello. Could you explain me please in more simple terms what is Holon? What rights does he have?

Hello Cashonly, a Holon is a unit of governance formed by an individual or a group. It is opt-in, opt-out, so no-one can be forced to join or to stay in the group. So your primary right is that of the freedom to join and leave the Holon, based on whether it’s values, rules and services are aligned with your needs, or whether it is able to achieve its set goals.

The second feature of Holons which distinct it from legacy governance organisations, is that anyone can form them. So if you can’t find a nation or community to meet your needs, you can create one of your own and ask others to join you.
So new governance organizations compete with old ones to meet your needs- creating a competitive market for governance.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 22, 2018, 12:16:11 PM
Hello Everyone,

We'd like to share with you the write up "he Pangea Software – a Decentralized Opt-In Jurisdiction"

The Pangea Software is a Decentralized Opt-In Jurisdiction where Citizens can conduct peer-to-peer arbitration and create Nations. Pangea uses the Panthalassa mesh, which is built using Secure Scuttlebutt (SSB) and Interplanetary File System (IPFS) protocols. This enables Pangea to be highly resilient and secure, conferring resistance to emergent threats such as highperformance quantum cryptography. Pangea is blockchain agnostic, but uses the Ethereum blockchain for the time being. In the future, other chains such as Bitcoin, EOS and Tezos can be integrated with Pangea.

https://www.iconomy.eu/2018/03/21/the-pangea-software-a-decentralized-opt-in-jurisdiction-3/


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 22, 2018, 02:07:16 PM
hope this project will be in moon,will be looking forward to update more details,thanks team
Thank you for your support 😄

Feel free to join our Telegram community to get instant updates !!

https://t.me/PangeaBitnation


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 22, 2018, 02:10:22 PM
hope this project will be in moon,will be looking forward to update more details,thanks team
Thank you for your interest 😄

Feel free to join our Telegram community to get update in real time !!

https://t.me/PangeaBitnation


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 22, 2018, 02:13:32 PM
The team always updates the development of Bitnation in their medium, Bitnation project is always interesting to follow and support it, hopefully Bitnation project with interesting concept can attract crowd of investors to invest in Bitnation project.
I also see the interesting things in this project, let's support this project until it will develop success for the future, this project gives many benefits and deserves to succeed.

Appreciate the support 😄

To get more interesting updates in real time , feel free to join our Telegram Community

https://t.me/PangeaBitnation


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on March 22, 2018, 10:46:31 PM
Dear Community,

We are excited to share this steemit post: Bitnation – The Future of Governance

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@kryptonaut/ico-spotlight-or-bitnation-the-future-of-governance

Keep up to date with all our news on our Telegram News Announcement Channel: https://t.me/bitnationpangea


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on March 23, 2018, 02:01:39 AM
I don't quite understand the meaning of this project. About Pangea, I can create my own DBVN. Can I create what I want, which is recognized by other countries in real society?
Bitnation is providing governance services independently from nation-state jurisdictions. It enables individuals as well as entire communities to reclaim their sovereignty by creating jurisdictions on the blockchain. We are currently working on the very infrastructure that will enable DApp developers to build governance services and entire nations (DBVNs: Decentralized borderless voluntary nations) on top of our Pangea platform.

Pangea will include ID and reputation services, as well as Ethereum smart contracts to sign agreements, create new laws as well as DBVNs. One critical function of a jurisdiction is dispute resolution. We will provide a market of arbitrators competing for reputation and clients, in stark contrast to existing court services that consume time and money.
 
What we are trying to accomplish is to enable people all over the world to live independently from the geographic apartheid that is imposed upon us by nation-states. People should enjoy high-quality governance services without being discriminated against based on their place of birth. The value we aim to provide is to enable everyone with a smartphone to opt-out from the system they live in without having to move geographically. To choose governance services freely just like you choose your phone provider.

I got it. The beneficial impact of creating a country independent of the real society is huge, and it takes a lot of time and energy to improve and transform it.

Interestingly, innovation in governance has been very slow since 1945 - unlike innovation in almost every other aspect, there is a limited market choice. But like Bitcoin adoption causes the financial infrastructure to change, as more people use decentralized governance, then legacy systems will need to evolve to compete so we expect to see a rapid evolution in governance in the future.  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: ottogary on March 23, 2018, 08:28:57 AM
The team always updates the development of Bitnation in their medium, Bitnation project is always interesting to follow and support it, hopefully Bitnation project with interesting concept can attract crowd of investors to invest in Bitnation project.
I also see the interesting things in this project, let's support this project until it will develop success for the future, this project gives many benefits and deserves to succeed.

Appreciate the support 😄

To get more interesting updates in real time , feel free to join our Telegram Community

https://t.me/PangeaBitnation
I see this project has a good purpose and useful for the community to be applied in the future. in this project development team telegram is active and hard work, I hope the success will be achieved for this project.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: KotiKo on March 23, 2018, 11:27:53 AM
I don't quite understand the meaning of this project. About Pangea, I can create my own DBVN. Can I create what I want, which is recognized by other countries in real society?
Bitnation is providing governance services independently from nation-state jurisdictions. It enables individuals as well as entire communities to reclaim their sovereignty by creating jurisdictions on the blockchain. We are currently working on the very infrastructure that will enable DApp developers to build governance services and entire nations (DBVNs: Decentralized borderless voluntary nations) on top of our Pangea platform.

Pangea will include ID and reputation services, as well as Ethereum smart contracts to sign agreements, create new laws as well as DBVNs. One critical function of a jurisdiction is dispute resolution. We will provide a market of arbitrators competing for reputation and clients, in stark contrast to existing court services that consume time and money.
 
What we are trying to accomplish is to enable people all over the world to live independently from the geographic apartheid that is imposed upon us by nation-states. People should enjoy high-quality governance services without being discriminated against based on their place of birth. The value we aim to provide is to enable everyone with a smartphone to opt-out from the system they live in without having to move geographically. To choose governance services freely just like you choose your phone provider.

I got it. The beneficial impact of creating a country independent of the real society is huge, and it takes a lot of time and energy to improve and transform it.
Yeah, you have to try hard to translate these ideas into reality. The idea is interesting and I think that it will be in demand


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Zye on March 23, 2018, 01:39:06 PM
Dear Community❗️❗️❗️
We would like to share this steemit post:

BITNATION - A Challenge To Modern States

"Would you like to live in a free world? And according to your own laws? Is it interesting for you to create a new nation or join the one that is closest to you?
You will say that this is impossible, and even if it is possible, it will take many centuries. And you will be wrong."

https://steemit.com/blockchain/@meninblock/bitnation-a-challenge-to-modern-states



Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 23, 2018, 01:49:01 PM
Dear Community ,

Here's an article on espeak -BITNATION: An Equal Nation For All


It’s impossible for a regular person like you and me to become a President, a Minister or even an Ambassador. Besides the education system, other areas of life can affect the opportunity too. For instance, every citizen has the opportunity to become politician BUT only if you are part of a political party or higher socioeconomic groups. Keep in mind the this is not a formal rule, this is just the way it works now.

 
https://epeak.in/2018/03/23/bitnation-an-equal-nation-for-all/


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: infested999 on March 23, 2018, 08:18:12 PM
Today I have spoke with some of my friends about BitNation and how they see the project going on in the nearest futures. We all came at the same conclusion: Bitnation has a secured place in our generation, and it can bring so good changes, changes that the current gov. could not do.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: thedon1997 on March 23, 2018, 08:40:46 PM
Today I have spoke with some of my friends about BitNation and how they see the project going on in the nearest futures. We all came at the same conclusion: Bitnation has a secured place in our generation, and it can bring so good changes, changes that the current gov. could not do.

Thank you for the input infested999  :)
Really appreciated!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: CheliosSambist on March 23, 2018, 09:58:37 PM
Ukrainian translation reserved


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: lps21 on March 23, 2018, 11:09:48 PM
Ukrainian translation reserved

Hi CheliosSambist,

Please check out this discussion as it might be of interest to you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3081168 it's where they discuss reservations and stuff. Or please check out the Telegram group: https://t.me/bitnationbounty as well, thanks in advance!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: vensky on March 23, 2018, 11:18:18 PM
i've read all of your white paper and other of your project documents, and i still don't don't understand what about is this project....


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on March 23, 2018, 11:23:05 PM
i've read all of your white paper and other of your project documents, and i still don't don't understand what about is this project....

Hi vensky,

Thank you for taking the time to read it. :)

Bitnation is creating a jurisdiction - a legal domain - in which p2p agreements can be made, disputes resolved and contracts enforced through reputation. So the answer is most people would use it - it’s 100 times cheaper than using legacy legal services, more secure, trustworthy and configurable for your life. More and more people live and work across borders and need a jurisdiction to account for that. Even more live and work in the informal economy (2bn according to World Bank estimates) and have no current legal protections. On our jurisdiction you can make enforceable binding agreements without recourse to 3rd parties. Communities and nations can also be built on the jurisdiction to offer services to their members - this means that a free market for governance services is possible - increasing choice and driving down costs.




Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: gourcuff on March 24, 2018, 05:47:09 AM
BITNATION — The Pangea Jurisdiction — Internet of Sovereignty https://medium.com/@_EnaksiS_/bitnation-the-pangea-jurisdiction-internet-of-sovereignty-92e18c79f3e4


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Zye on March 24, 2018, 09:11:40 AM
Hello all!
We would like to share this Steemit article  "The Bitnation Platform As The Proof Of Concept Decentralized Borderless Voluntary Nation For The Future"

Bitnation was built with the aim of forming a global marketplace that provides government services. Now the sovereign world has shifted in the provision of governance services. It indeed requires the government to provide the best service to the community.

Citizens also want to return to the use of self-selecting regulations when they can access government services, so they do not have to be fixed on a definite schedule.

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@kurniawan05/the-bitnation-platform-as-the-proof-of-concept-decentralized-borderless-voluntary-nation-for-the-future



Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on March 24, 2018, 11:00:10 AM
Bitnation family, wanna know more about HOW TO PARTICIPATE IN THE BITNATION PAT TOKEN MAIN SALE?

This step by step procedure of how to participate on steemit is just for you!

https://steemit.com/bitnation/@bitnation/how-to-participate-in-the-bitnation-pat-token-ico


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on March 25, 2018, 01:33:52 AM
How many days will it take for Bitnation.co to reach their token sale hard-cap limit of $30M?

Answer the question correctly and earn a potion of the 320,000 PAT and 10,000 STX prize pool🏆

You have nothing to lose and everything to gain🧠

Predict now RISK FREE!
https://goo.gl/FnV8p


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 25, 2018, 09:54:31 AM
OUR TOKEN WILL BE LIVE TODAY 🚀🚀🚀

Follow us on our Website: https://tse.bitnation.co/

To Contribute please follow the Guide
https://steemit.com/bitnation/@bitnation/how-to-participate-in-the-bitnation-pat-token-ico

Bonus :
15% -First hour
10% -First day
 5% - First week
https://steemit.com/bitnation/@bitnation/bitnation-token-sale-post-2-the-bitnation-token-sale-structure

Recommended GAS -150,000 , Gwei -15000

Minimum is 0.05 ETH – Max is none

TOKEN SALE INFO

Price per PAT

Starting price will be 0.091$ Per PAT, the price will decrease at a predefined rate until the hard-cap of $30M is reached. If the hard-cap isn't reached, the price will reach a minimum of 0.009$ Per PAT at the end of the auction. Bid at the price you are happy to buy at - the auction ends when the $ cap has been reached. Everyone pays the same price per token. Actual price is the auction price at the time the hard cap is reached.       

ETH price is locked when auction opens


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Zye on March 25, 2018, 10:42:30 AM
Dear Community,

We would like to share this article with you: "Bitnation Governance: When Democracy is Not Enough"

"Latest democracy index from The Economist Intelligence Unit shows that United States, France and Italy are being demoted from a full democracy to a flawed democracy. Flawed democracies are nations where elections are fair and free and basic civil liberties are honored but may have issues for example: poor economic performance, reaction against economic reform, and media freedom infringement."


https://steemit.com/blockchain/@cooperzi/bitnation-when-democracy-is-not-enough


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: thedon1997 on March 25, 2018, 03:58:12 PM
OUR TOKEN SALE IS LIVE 🚀🚀🚀

To Contribute please follow the Guide
https://steemit.com/bitnation/@bitnation/how-to-participate-in-the-bitnation-pat-token-ico

Contribution Link: https://tse.bitnation.co/getpat/

Bonus :
15% -First hour
10% -First day
 5% - First week
https://steemit.com/bitnation/@bitnation/bitnation-token-sale-post-2-the-bitnation-token-sale-structure

Recommended GAS -150,000 , Gwei -15

Minimum is 0.05 ETH – Max is none

TOKEN SALE INFO:

Price per PAT

Starting price will be 0.091$ Per PAT, the price will decrease at a predefined rate until the hard-cap of $30M is reached. If the hard-cap isn't reached, the price will reach a minimum of 0.009$ Per PAT at the end of the auction. Bid at the price you are happy to buy at - the auction ends when the $ cap has been reached. Everyone pays the same price per token. Actual price is the auction price at the time the hard cap is reached.       

ETH price is locked when the auction opens

❗️ Please do not send contributions anywhere. Only Send here: https://tse.bitnation.co/getpat/❗️


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on March 25, 2018, 10:37:13 PM
Hi everyone,

Download our app. Available for Android, iOS app will be out soon!

Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.bitnation

Have a good day!  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: TheBitcoinEther on March 25, 2018, 11:02:04 PM
This would perfectly work in a World of Wordcraft, or similar, PC game.

The real world runs on different dynamics, I'm afraid.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: lps21 on March 25, 2018, 11:19:53 PM
Hi everyone,

We are pleased to share this article with everyone regarding "Why you should support Bitnation."

Press this link to read the article: https://medium.com/@jamesfennelltempelhof/why-you-should-support-bitnation-68ae833271dd


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on March 25, 2018, 11:52:40 PM
This would perfectly work in a World of Wordcraft, or similar, PC game.

The real world runs on different dynamics, I'm afraid.

Thank you for the feedback. I would suggest to check out the article by the Co-Founder and COO of Bitnation,

How Will Bitnation Impact A Billion Lives?

"Nation State Governments have failed to keep up with the technologies that are transforming our lives. The Internet has radically interconnected our world and decentralised technologies allow us to choose to govern ourselves for the way we want to live now: peer-to-peer, more locally and more globally."

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-bitnation-impact-billion-lives-james-fennell/?published=t


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: KotiKo on March 26, 2018, 05:30:24 PM
Today I have spoke with some of my friends about BitNation and how they see the project going on in the nearest futures. We all came at the same conclusion: Bitnation has a secured place in our generation, and it can bring so good changes, changes that the current gov. could not do.
Many people agree with this opinion! This can lead to success and good stability! I wish good luck for growth


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: miha on March 26, 2018, 05:47:21 PM
so where we can see progress line? how much did we raise? on website can not find anything.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: thedon1997 on March 26, 2018, 08:36:34 PM
so where we can see progress line? how much did we raise? on website can not find anything.

Hey Miha,
You can see how much has been raised in our website: https://tse.bitnation.co/
Click "Get PAT Tokens" and agree to all the terms. The ETH counter will be present after that :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace on March 26, 2018, 08:41:52 PM
Today I have spoke with some of my friends about BitNation and how they see the project going on in the nearest futures. We all came at the same conclusion: Bitnation has a secured place in our generation, and it can bring so good changes, changes that the current gov. could not do.
Many people agree with this opinion! This can lead to success and good stability! I wish good luck for growth

Thank you KotiKo for the support.

You may want to tune in this livestream of Larken Rose and BITNATION right now.

https://hangouts.google.com/_/elUi/chat-redirect?dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Di00tigA5hCU


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: nugrama on March 27, 2018, 02:04:48 AM
Today I have spoke with some of my friends about BitNation and how they see the project going on in the nearest futures. We all came at the same conclusion: Bitnation has a secured place in our generation, and it can bring so good changes, changes that the current gov. could not do.
Many people agree with this opinion! This can lead to success and good stability! I wish good luck for growth

Thank you KotiKo for the support.

You may want to tune in this livestream of Larken Rose and BITNATION right now.

https://hangouts.google.com/_/elUi/chat-redirect?dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Di00tigA5hCU
I myself support this project in order to develop and also successful because the projects can provide a positive thing for the future and Hopefully getting a lot of support for this project.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: ih8rain85 on March 27, 2018, 10:30:00 AM
Hi Everyone,

I have a couple questions.
How many PAT were sold during pre-sale?
I read it was 10% of supply.

1. That would mean the price was around
2.7 mil $ /42b * 10% = 0.000643 $/PAT.
Is this the right ballpark figure or am i mistaken?

2. The lowest possible market cap after the public sale would be 4.2b * 0.09 = 378.000.000 $ , correct?

3. At what rate was $/ETH fixed?

4. Let's assume it was fixed at 500$/ETH. Then let's assume ETH falls to 400$/ETH. Does that mean i will receive 500$ worth of PAT, even though I only payed 400$ for the ETH I have sent?

Thanks to everyone who helps to clarify!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on March 27, 2018, 12:33:47 PM
Hi Everyone,

I have a couple questions.
How many PAT were sold during pre-sale?
I read it was 10% of supply.

1. That would mean the price was around
2.7 mil $ /42b * 10% = 0.000643 $/PAT.
Is this the right ballpark figure or am i mistaken?

2. The lowest possible market cap after the public sale would be 4.2b * 0.09 = 378.000.000 $ , correct?

3. At what rate was $/ETH fixed?

4. Let's assume it was fixed at 500$/ETH. Then let's assume ETH falls to 400$/ETH. Does that mean i will receive 500$ worth of PAT, even though I only payed 400$ for the ETH I have sent?

Thanks to everyone who helps to clarify!



Hello there, Presale was in Q4 2017. :)

Please send a mail to john@bitnation.co for more info.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: vabchgent on March 27, 2018, 12:48:49 PM
i've read all of your white paper and other of your project documents, and i still don't don't understand what about is this project....

Hi vensky,

Thank you for taking the time to read it. :)

Bitnation is creating a jurisdiction - a legal domain - in which p2p agreements can be made, disputes resolved and contracts enforced through reputation. So the answer is most people would use it - it’s 100 times cheaper than using legacy legal services, more secure, trustworthy and configurable for your life. More and more people live and work across borders and need a jurisdiction to account for that. Even more live and work in the informal economy (2bn according to World Bank estimates) and have no current legal protections. On our jurisdiction you can make enforceable binding agreements without recourse to 3rd parties. Communities and nations can also be built on the jurisdiction to offer services to their members - this means that a free market for governance services is possible - increasing choice and driving down costs.




What happens if I enter a contract with a counterparty and we agree upon certain terms and conditions. Now one party breaks the rules. Who is going to enforce my claims? Will it be acknowledged by any official jurisdiction?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: thedon1997 on March 27, 2018, 03:48:41 PM
i've read all of your white paper and other of your project documents, and i still don't don't understand what about is this project....

Hi vensky,

Thank you for taking the time to read it. :)

Bitnation is creating a jurisdiction - a legal domain - in which p2p agreements can be made, disputes resolved and contracts enforced through reputation. So the answer is most people would use it - it’s 100 times cheaper than using legacy legal services, more secure, trustworthy and configurable for your life. More and more people live and work across borders and need a jurisdiction to account for that. Even more live and work in the informal economy (2bn according to World Bank estimates) and have no current legal protections. On our jurisdiction you can make enforceable binding agreements without recourse to 3rd parties. Communities and nations can also be built on the jurisdiction to offer services to their members - this means that a free market for governance services is possible - increasing choice and driving down costs.




What happens if I enter a contract with a counterparty and we agree upon certain terms and conditions. Now one party breaks the rules. Who is going to enforce my claims? Will it be acknowledged by any official jurisdiction?

Hey vabchgent,
Enforcement is done through financial and reputation incentives. Contracts are agreed to voluntarily and only apply peer-to-peer, there is no police necessary. Instead of deterrence enforcement is done through positive incentives


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on March 28, 2018, 01:02:20 AM
You can now download Testflight on IOS and access pangea!

We will be receiving email addresses shortly to invite you.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Demirung on March 28, 2018, 10:18:26 AM
You can now download Testflight on IOS and access pangea!

We will be receiving email addresses shortly to invite you.
I'll try it right now, I'm curious how this will work. I think that it's not bad, I wish you good luck in further developments


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 28, 2018, 01:42:20 PM
Hello all,

Here's another great article published on Newbium which sumarizes the Bitnation project by Enaksis.

Using Pangea, you can build voluntary nations, agreed contracts and resolve a dispute with other citizens and access the services you need. This is Bitnation’s vision of jurisdiction as a service a global market for government services.

https://coins.newbium.com/post/15223-bitnationthe-pangea-jurisdictioninternet-of


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: lps21 on March 28, 2018, 10:48:35 PM
You can now download Testflight on IOS and access pangea!

We will be receiving email addresses shortly to invite you.
I'll try it right now, I'm curious how this will work. I think that it's not bad, I wish you good luck in further developments

Hi Demirung,

Please let us know what you think after testing, we'd love to hear your thoughts!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: monarx911@i.ua on March 28, 2018, 11:04:18 PM
review of the project in Russian from the team CTA_Group (https://t.me/CryptoTA_ICO) published on golos (https://golos.io/ru--blokcheijn/@cryptotaofficial/bitnation-evolyuciya-yurisprudencii-mif-ili-realnost)
medium (https://medium.com/@monarx911/bitnation-%D1%8D%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8E%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F-%D1%8E%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BF%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B8-%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%84-%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B8-%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C-4058223b75cc)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on March 29, 2018, 01:40:08 AM
i've read all of your white paper and other of your project documents, and i still don't don't understand what about is this project....

Hi vensky,

Thank you for taking the time to read it. :)

Bitnation is creating a jurisdiction - a legal domain - in which p2p agreements can be made, disputes resolved and contracts enforced through reputation. So the answer is most people would use it - it’s 100 times cheaper than using legacy legal services, more secure, trustworthy and configurable for your life. More and more people live and work across borders and need a jurisdiction to account for that. Even more live and work in the informal economy (2bn according to World Bank estimates) and have no current legal protections. On our jurisdiction you can make enforceable binding agreements without recourse to 3rd parties. Communities and nations can also be built on the jurisdiction to offer services to their members - this means that a free market for governance services is possible - increasing choice and driving down costs.




What happens if I enter a contract with a counterparty and we agree upon certain terms and conditions. Now one party breaks the rules. Who is going to enforce my claims? Will it be acknowledged by any official jurisdiction?

On our jurisdiction you can make enforceable binding agreements, already at least one document notarised on Bitnation's Public Notary (a company registration) has stood up in UK courts, when disputed.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: lps21 on March 29, 2018, 04:04:20 AM
review of the project in Russian from the team cryptota golos (https://golos.io/ru--blokcheijn/@cryptotaofficial/bitnation-evolyuciya-yurisprudencii-mif-ili-realnost)
medium (https://medium.com/@monarx911/bitnation-%D1%8D%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8E%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F-%D1%8E%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BF%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B8-%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%84-%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B8-%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C-4058223b75cc)

Hi monarx911,

You might be interested in this group, it discusses bounties and such:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3081168

Also, you might want to join the Telegram bounty group too:

https://t.me/bitnationbounty

Thank you!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Maslate on March 29, 2018, 05:18:12 AM
When did the ICO started? I am seeing that as of now you have raised 897.436 ETH already based on this site https://tse.bitnation.co/getpat/.
May I also ask if you can put a countdown on how long this ICO will run?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on March 29, 2018, 08:33:19 AM
When did the ICO started? I am seeing that as of now you have raised 897.436 ETH already based on this site https://tse.bitnation.co/getpat/.
May I also ask if you can put a countdown on how long this ICO will run?

Hello Maslate, our token sale started on 25th March. The Token sale ends at 25th April, Or whenever the hardcap is reached.  :)
We will forward your suggestion to the team. :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: marilouadrie on March 29, 2018, 05:29:03 PM
Somehow, this reminds me of Bitconnect on subconscious level.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: normensky012 on March 29, 2018, 05:47:23 PM
Is the digital nation allows me to make my own nation or is it a digital nation embodied as a whole? I am still on the edge of understanding the fully understanding the concept. I am slow learner, but I learn. I hope someone can send me a link to articles or video that extensively explain the concept to slow learner like me. Thanks


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace on March 29, 2018, 08:58:55 PM
Is the digital nation allows me to make my own nation or is it a digital nation embodied as a whole? I am still on the edge of understanding the fully understanding the concept. I am slow learner, but I learn. I hope someone can send me a link to articles or video that extensively explain the concept to slow learner like me. Thanks

Hello normensky012

Yes, you can make your own nation. Bitnation’s blockchain governance model allows for the creation of borderless citizenship and autonomous nations and communities distinct from territorial nation-states. Pangea allows users to develop bespoke jurisdictions for individual agreements and opt-in autonomous communities, to any legal code, or none at all.

Here's our Youtube channel where lots of videos about us, are posted.: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGOeAGtILGLCT5j0KTf5pBw


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on March 29, 2018, 10:35:16 PM
It seems that this is  promising project,all  details are clearly indicated in relation to the project roadmap, pre-sell and main ICO.

Thank you muhermiri! Have you joined our Telegram https://t.me/PangeaBitnation? Chat with us!  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on March 30, 2018, 12:41:11 AM
When did the ICO started? I am seeing that as of now you have raised 897.436 ETH already based on this site https://tse.bitnation.co/getpat/.

$2.7 Million sold in pre-sale in Q4 2017, our main sale began on 25 March 2018.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: iamgekko on March 30, 2018, 12:50:02 PM
Dear Community,

We would like to share this Youtube Video with you:

"ICOGenius - BitNation Introduction"

You can find the video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtZGTxG5a40&app=desktop


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: ashao1015 on March 30, 2018, 07:19:01 PM
New article from crypto.invest:
https://golos.io/ru--kriptovalyuty/@crypto.invest/bitnation-gosudarstvo-na-osnove-blokchein


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: lps21 on March 30, 2018, 10:44:31 PM
Somehow, this reminds me of Bitconnect on subconscious level.

Hi marilouadrie,

Thank you for sharing your opinion, however, may I kindly share that Bitnation is not a lending platform but a peer-to-peer governance system. It is a system where you can gain reputation through hard work and agreements that you complete. For more on details on this, we welcome you to join the Telegram groups:

https://t.me/bitnationpangea
https://t.me/PangeaBitnation

Thank you again!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: egetrorx on March 31, 2018, 06:52:04 AM
blog review
https://icoshrimp.com/bitnation-worlds-first-decentralized-borderless-voluntary-nation/


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: DrearyUrbanite on March 31, 2018, 08:07:03 AM
Is there actually a soft cap or do you have enough funds already secured to definitely make Bitnation happen?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on March 31, 2018, 10:01:35 AM
Is there actually a soft cap or do you have enough funds already secured to definitely make Bitnation happen?

Hey DrearyUrbanite, there's actually no soft cap. However, we do have a hard cap of
US$27.3 Million, total hard cap was $30 Million, but $2.7 Million sold in pre-sale in Q4 2017.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Zye on March 31, 2018, 11:03:42 AM
This article has some really good information about the direction of Bitnation

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@romanpetrush/bitnation-promises-an-efficient-problem-solving-ecosystem


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: BestKait on March 31, 2018, 02:12:03 PM

It's great that you're going to work with cryptocurrency, cause it's money of future. But I can't find the information about what exactly currency you're going to work with?


Hello, Here is a little it about the PAT Token, the currency of reputation in the Bitnation platform.

The Pangea Arbitration Token (PAT) is an ERC20 compatible, in-app token for the Pangea
Jurisdiction. The PAT token rewards good reputation and is issued on Pangea when Citizens
accumulate non-tradable reputation tokens through creating a contract, successfully completing a
contract or resolving a dispute attached to a contract. PAT is an algorithmic reputation token, an
arbitration currency based on performance rather than purchasing power, popularity or attention.

I hope this answers your question :D.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Kaznachej123 on March 31, 2018, 03:12:51 PM
                                   Bitnation  ICO Review (RUS) for Russian-speaking people! BTCBTCBTC   👉 https://youtu.be/UTVtiU7kOH4 
                                                          My Twit:  https://twitter.com/Kaznachej123/status/980098579464359936

    Pangea is a secure mesh network forming a distributed web, accessed through a smartphone-chat user friendly interface. Blockchain agnostic smart contract functionality powers the Pangea Jurisdiction, currently implemented with Ethereum. Pangea is a decentralized market for legal services. Create and execute peer-to-peer agreements seamlessly across the world, resolve disputes fairly and efficiently.

                             https://s8.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2018/03/4db6c4de9bc0c262af6532249a33c547.jpg (https://youtu.be/UTVtiU7kOH4)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on April 01, 2018, 12:49:04 AM
blog review
https://icoshrimp.com/bitnation-worlds-first-decentralized-borderless-voluntary-nation/

Thanks for the review egetrorx, I will pass this on to the team!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Zye on April 01, 2018, 12:30:10 PM
Just read a review that really goes into detail about Bitnation,

These points really stood out to me!

• It provides a platform for a variety of governance services for users including chatbots and decentralized services.

• Holds a unique directory of citizen’s details.

• Ensures peer-to-peer contracts with ample amount of security.

• Allows the users to create their own nation.

• Provides a variety of citizenship benefits.

• The tokens of BitNation are referred to as Pangea Arbitration tokens. These tokens are used to give rewards.


https://medium.com/@sinofd/bitnation-ico-review-decentralized-borderless-voluntary-nation-70e70e098e00


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: lps21 on April 02, 2018, 04:51:48 AM
Hi Everyone,

Here is a short video from the team of Bitnation regarding the token sale:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1ZaKDGCGwA&feature=youtu.be

Take some time to click the link!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Maslate on April 02, 2018, 09:25:51 AM
Hi OP, I believe we are not in the pre-sale phase anymore, maybe we should change the title of this thread, every detail is very important
to attract investors. What I see now is that the contribution is very slow, it's still less than 1,000 ETH so far.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: vabchgent on April 02, 2018, 10:48:37 AM
i've read all of your white paper and other of your project documents, and i still don't don't understand what about is this project....

Hi vensky,

Thank you for taking the time to read it. :)

Bitnation is creating a jurisdiction - a legal domain - in which p2p agreements can be made, disputes resolved and contracts enforced through reputation. So the answer is most people would use it - it’s 100 times cheaper than using legacy legal services, more secure, trustworthy and configurable for your life. More and more people live and work across borders and need a jurisdiction to account for that. Even more live and work in the informal economy (2bn according to World Bank estimates) and have no current legal protections. On our jurisdiction you can make enforceable binding agreements without recourse to 3rd parties. Communities and nations can also be built on the jurisdiction to offer services to their members - this means that a free market for governance services is possible - increasing choice and driving down costs.




What happens if I enter a contract with a counterparty and we agree upon certain terms and conditions. Now one party breaks the rules. Who is going to enforce my claims? Will it be acknowledged by any official jurisdiction?

Hey vabchgent,
Enforcement is done through financial and reputation incentives. Contracts are agreed to voluntarily and only apply peer-to-peer, there is no police necessary. Instead of deterrence enforcement is done through positive incentives


Can you think of any scenario where it might make sense for one party to deviate from the contract? Even if it is damaging both parties for example? What happens then? Would a court still be a place to go or how do envision such a situation (if existent) to play out? Very interesting project anyway here!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on April 02, 2018, 12:38:35 PM
Here's a brief but packed video about Bitnation shot at  Ashland, Oregon, to start your day!

Video introduces and  gives updates about Bitnation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpBKFnL2Q_0

Enjoy!!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on April 02, 2018, 12:56:41 PM
i've read all of your white paper and other of your project documents, and i still don't don't understand what about is this project....

Hi vensky,

Thank you for taking the time to read it. :)

Bitnation is creating a jurisdiction - a legal domain - in which p2p agreements can be made, disputes resolved and contracts enforced through reputation. So the answer is most people would use it - it’s 100 times cheaper than using legacy legal services, more secure, trustworthy and configurable for your life. More and more people live and work across borders and need a jurisdiction to account for that. Even more live and work in the informal economy (2bn according to World Bank estimates) and have no current legal protections. On our jurisdiction you can make enforceable binding agreements without recourse to 3rd parties. Communities and nations can also be built on the jurisdiction to offer services to their members - this means that a free market for governance services is possible - increasing choice and driving down costs.




What happens if I enter a contract with a counterparty and we agree upon certain terms and conditions. Now one party breaks the rules. Who is going to enforce my claims? Will it be acknowledged by any official jurisdiction?

Hey vabchgent,
Enforcement is done through financial and reputation incentives. Contracts are agreed to voluntarily and only apply peer-to-peer, there is no police necessary. Instead of deterrence enforcement is done through positive incentives


Can you think of any scenario where it might make sense for one party to deviate from the contract? Even if it is damaging both parties for example? What happens then? Would a court still be a place to go or how do envision such a situation (if existent) to play out? Very interesting project anyway here!

Hello Vabchgent,

PAT drives the reputation system on Pangea, which provides a native contract enforcement mechanism. Pangea awards three non-tradable sub-tokens for 1.) making and successfully completing contracts and arbitrating disputes (keeping your word), 2.) building and populating  nations and offering services citizens rate highly, 3.) developing and updating smart contracts that are highly rated by users. Users can only rate ‘machines ’ - smart contracts and nations - not other users (to prevent popularity contests), while a machine (AI) rates users against set criteria.

PAT is a tradable reward (like air miles) for building up a good reputation (accumulating non-tradable tokens). It can be used on the platform to buy services and exchanged for other digital assets - we have a deal with shapeshift already. You can also use any other crypto to buy services and trade on Pangea, but use of PAT will provide a small discount.

 So a jurisdiction is a domain of law. In which any agreements can made and upheld to a set of agreed rules (a legal code). Because ours is a peer-to-peer jurisdiction, those rules are agreed between the parties to each agreement, not by any third party or authority. The Pangea jurisdiction allows these agreements to be made, and provides a native human arbitration system to resolve disputes - and a reputation system for enforcement.

In addition to p2p agreements, users can also create their own voluntary communities- nations- for collective agreements, and to offer governance services. These can use the Pangea jurisdiction to their own set of collective rules.

Since they are voluntary (nobody is forced to join them, and any citizen can leave at any time) these communities must compete for citizens in a free market for governance - and it’s perfectly possible - even likely - that users will join several nations to access different services (e.g. a occupation based nation, say for employment and education - e.g. a wheat farmers nation, or a solidity developers nation, another for their local needs - say a neighborhood or city association for trash  collection, basic income and local services, and a cultural nation for religious or other social services - like a nation of Goths or Buddhists.) so governance becomes like other aspects of life, a matter of choosing what suits you best.



















Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on April 03, 2018, 04:47:31 AM
Hi all!

I recommend giving this steemit post a read:

https://steemit.com/ico/@maniecool/bitnation

It covers what Bitnation is, what Pangea's features and system architecture are and a roadmap for the project.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: vabchgent on April 03, 2018, 06:17:49 AM
i've read all of your white paper and other of your project documents, and i still don't don't understand what about is this project....

Hi vensky,

Thank you for taking the time to read it. :)

Bitnation is creating a jurisdiction - a legal domain - in which p2p agreements can be made, disputes resolved and contracts enforced through reputation. So the answer is most people would use it - it’s 100 times cheaper than using legacy legal services, more secure, trustworthy and configurable for your life. More and more people live and work across borders and need a jurisdiction to account for that. Even more live and work in the informal economy (2bn according to World Bank estimates) and have no current legal protections. On our jurisdiction you can make enforceable binding agreements without recourse to 3rd parties. Communities and nations can also be built on the jurisdiction to offer services to their members - this means that a free market for governance services is possible - increasing choice and driving down costs.




What happens if I enter a contract with a counterparty and we agree upon certain terms and conditions. Now one party breaks the rules. Who is going to enforce my claims? Will it be acknowledged by any official jurisdiction?

Hey vabchgent,
Enforcement is done through financial and reputation incentives. Contracts are agreed to voluntarily and only apply peer-to-peer, there is no police necessary. Instead of deterrence enforcement is done through positive incentives


Can you think of any scenario where it might make sense for one party to deviate from the contract? Even if it is damaging both parties for example? What happens then? Would a court still be a place to go or how do envision such a situation (if existent) to play out? Very interesting project anyway here!

Hello Vabchgent,

PAT drives the reputation system on Pangea, which provides a native contract enforcement mechanism. Pangea awards three non-tradable sub-tokens for 1.) making and successfully completing contracts and arbitrating disputes (keeping your word), 2.) building and populating  nations and offering services citizens rate highly, 3.) developing and updating smart contracts that are highly rated by users. Users can only rate ‘machines ’ - smart contracts and nations - not other users (to prevent popularity contests), while a machine (AI) rates users against set criteria.

PAT is a tradable reward (like air miles) for building up a good reputation (accumulating non-tradable tokens). It can be used on the platform to buy services and exchanged for other digital assets - we have a deal with shapeshift already. You can also use any other crypto to buy services and trade on Pangea, but use of PAT will provide a small discount.

 So a jurisdiction is a domain of law. In which any agreements can made and upheld to a set of agreed rules (a legal code). Because ours is a peer-to-peer jurisdiction, those rules are agreed between the parties to each agreement, not by any third party or authority. The Pangea jurisdiction allows these agreements to be made, and provides a native human arbitration system to resolve disputes - and a reputation system for enforcement.

In addition to p2p agreements, users can also create their own voluntary communities- nations- for collective agreements, and to offer governance services. These can use the Pangea jurisdiction to their own set of collective rules.

Since they are voluntary (nobody is forced to join them, and any citizen can leave at any time) these communities must compete for citizens in a free market for governance - and it’s perfectly possible - even likely - that users will join several nations to access different services (e.g. a occupation based nation, say for employment and education - e.g. a wheat farmers nation, or a solidity developers nation, another for their local needs - say a neighborhood or city association for trash  collection, basic income and local services, and a cultural nation for religious or other social services - like a nation of Goths or Buddhists.) so governance becomes like other aspects of life, a matter of choosing what suits you best.



















Thank you very much for all those details. It is a very interesting but also challenging concept in the way that it is hard to grasp its potential impact on our real lives. You mention, among others, this example of a wheat farmers nation: that is where I have a hard time to fully understand the consequences of such a nation. If we say that a wheat farmer enters a contract with a baker and both agree on a certain price to be paid for a certain amount of wheat on a specific date via Bitnation (is that a possible example, i.e. a futures contract?), and the baker doesn't pay, then the baker will lose reputation. Does that situation have any consequence outside the "virtual" bitnation world? Or am I totally off here with my example?

I do understand what you are essentially building, at least I believe so. I am just asking myself how Bitnation exists in relation to our current world? Can we just be there and make contracts outside or our jurisdictional world? Is that even legal?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on April 03, 2018, 08:52:40 AM
i've read all of your white paper and other of your project documents, and i still don't don't understand what about is this project....

Hi vensky,

Thank you for taking the time to read it. :)

Bitnation is creating a jurisdiction - a legal domain - in which p2p agreements can be made, disputes resolved and contracts enforced through reputation. So the answer is most people would use it - it’s 100 times cheaper than using legacy legal services, more secure, trustworthy and configurable for your life. More and more people live and work across borders and need a jurisdiction to account for that. Even more live and work in the informal economy (2bn according to World Bank estimates) and have no current legal protections. On our jurisdiction you can make enforceable binding agreements without recourse to 3rd parties. Communities and nations can also be built on the jurisdiction to offer services to their members - this means that a free market for governance services is possible - increasing choice and driving down costs.




What happens if I enter a contract with a counterparty and we agree upon certain terms and conditions. Now one party breaks the rules. Who is going to enforce my claims? Will it be acknowledged by any official jurisdiction?

Hey vabchgent,
Enforcement is done through financial and reputation incentives. Contracts are agreed to voluntarily and only apply peer-to-peer, there is no police necessary. Instead of deterrence enforcement is done through positive incentives


Can you think of any scenario where it might make sense for one party to deviate from the contract? Even if it is damaging both parties for example? What happens then? Would a court still be a place to go or how do envision such a situation (if existent) to play out? Very interesting project anyway here!

Hello Vabchgent,

PAT drives the reputation system on Pangea, which provides a native contract enforcement mechanism. Pangea awards three non-tradable sub-tokens for 1.) making and successfully completing contracts and arbitrating disputes (keeping your word), 2.) building and populating  nations and offering services citizens rate highly, 3.) developing and updating smart contracts that are highly rated by users. Users can only rate ‘machines ’ - smart contracts and nations - not other users (to prevent popularity contests), while a machine (AI) rates users against set criteria.

PAT is a tradable reward (like air miles) for building up a good reputation (accumulating non-tradable tokens). It can be used on the platform to buy services and exchanged for other digital assets - we have a deal with shapeshift already. You can also use any other crypto to buy services and trade on Pangea, but use of PAT will provide a small discount.

 So a jurisdiction is a domain of law. In which any agreements can made and upheld to a set of agreed rules (a legal code). Because ours is a peer-to-peer jurisdiction, those rules are agreed between the parties to each agreement, not by any third party or authority. The Pangea jurisdiction allows these agreements to be made, and provides a native human arbitration system to resolve disputes - and a reputation system for enforcement.

In addition to p2p agreements, users can also create their own voluntary communities- nations- for collective agreements, and to offer governance services. These can use the Pangea jurisdiction to their own set of collective rules.

Since they are voluntary (nobody is forced to join them, and any citizen can leave at any time) these communities must compete for citizens in a free market for governance - and it’s perfectly possible - even likely - that users will join several nations to access different services (e.g. a occupation based nation, say for employment and education - e.g. a wheat farmers nation, or a solidity developers nation, another for their local needs - say a neighborhood or city association for trash  collection, basic income and local services, and a cultural nation for religious or other social services - like a nation of Goths or Buddhists.) so governance becomes like other aspects of life, a matter of choosing what suits you best.



















Thank you very much for all those details. It is a very interesting but also challenging concept in the way that it is hard to grasp its potential impact on our real lives. You mention, among others, this example of a wheat farmers nation: that is where I have a hard time to fully understand the consequences of such a nation. If we say that a wheat farmer enters a contract with a baker and both agree on a certain price to be paid for a certain amount of wheat on a specific date via Bitnation (is that a possible example, i.e. a futures contract?), and the baker doesn't pay, then the baker will lose reputation. Does that situation have any consequence outside the "virtual" bitnation world? Or am I totally off here with my example?

I do understand what you are essentially building, at least I believe so. I am just asking myself how Bitnation exists in relation to our current world? Can we just be there and make contracts outside or our jurisdictional world? Is that even legal?

Your reputation on Pangea determines how others view your ability to keep your word. This reduces or increase your chances of other to carry business transactions with you or not in the future. Aside reputation on Pangea which sounds more virtual, there's also an escrow - you will be able to put digital assets into escrow on a blockchain, (examples are land titles, ownership documents for assets like cars etc, deeds for buildings, wills, crypto-currency etc.), these will only be released on contract completion after arbitration. So in your case scenario if baker doesn't pay the farmer, what ever asset that was held in escrow will not be released until he carries out his part of the contract. There's also contract insurance - you can take out insurance against one party failing to fulfill their part of the bargain.

We all operate in both virtual and non-virtual worlds, and more so. You could have a bank account in New York and never visit a bank there or seen any of your cash dollars, but it will still work well for you when you need it because you can access it online. Goods are ordered daily from  Amazon, but nobody goes an Amazon store (in fact like the bank in New York, they don't exist as places you can walk into and do business), but like the dollars from the bank, the books from Amazon arrive on time. Why should jurisdiction be any different? The fact that it is, suggests its an archaic system ripe for disruption.

I hope this answers your question. ;)










Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on April 04, 2018, 04:45:19 AM

I am interested in this project as well after reading the available information on page first. Total maximum supply also is promising if all the tokens get sold.



The total tokens supply available is 42 Billion, however only 14.28 Billion are available during the token sale.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Maslate on April 04, 2018, 05:56:09 AM

I am interested in this project as well after reading the available information on page first. Total maximum supply also is promising if all the tokens get sold.



The total tokens supply available is 42 Billion, however only 14.28 Billion are available during the token sale.

What will happen to the tokens not intended for sale, and the unsold tokens will be burn?
Some ICOs do lock unsold tokens and some big tokens allocated in different purpose, I don't really like big supply project that the team has bigger supply to control.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on April 04, 2018, 09:18:46 AM

I am interested in this project as well after reading the available information on page first. Total maximum supply also is promising if all the tokens get sold.



The total tokens supply available is 42 Billion, however only 14.28 Billion are available during the token sale.

What will happen to the tokens not intended for sale, and the unsold tokens will be burn?
Some ICOs do lock unsold tokens and some big tokens allocated in different purpose, I don't really like big supply project that the team has bigger supply to control.

Hello there, the unsold tokens will not be burnt.
The supply of PAT is capped at 42 Billion, 18% are pre-allocated to founders, core team members and early investors, 34% will be released as rewards for good governance on Pangea and 14% is reserved for future contributors.

The remaining 34% will be sold across the three phases of the token sale.

The sale of 34% of the tokens is spread over 3 phases - presale 2.7% (complete), ICO 7.3% (25th March), slow release 24% (1% p/m for 2 yrs).

I hope this answers your question.  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Margary on April 04, 2018, 01:55:26 PM
I wonder if this idea will develop.
it is rather non-standard.
and it is not known whether these documents will be recognized by countries of the world.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on April 05, 2018, 12:58:55 AM
I wonder if this idea will develop.
it is rather non-standard.
and it is not known whether these documents will be recognized by countries of the world.

Agreements made on Bitnation are legally binding, already at least one document notarised on Bitnation's Public Notary (a company registration) has stood up in UK courts when disputed.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: lps21 on April 05, 2018, 01:45:36 AM
Hi everybody,

Sharing a link here for an article that shares the goals of Bitnation, it's a pretty interesting read and something you all should be interested in. Thank you!

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/choose-your-own-country-bitnation-vincent-lionheart/?published=t


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: BestKait on April 05, 2018, 08:55:56 PM

this is an interesting project, looking from a road map, which I think is very neat and potentially   succeed in the future, I'm interested to see the progress of this thread, and not a bad idea to invest, may be a successful project


Thanks for the support!

If anyone is reading this and interested in checking out the roadmap here is a link right to it to make it easy :).

ROADMAP: https://icobazaar.com/v2/bitnation/roadmap


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: stronger2 on April 06, 2018, 12:39:15 PM
BITNATION program is very innovative and unique even arguably amazing in my opinion here I think that it is like having a country that all controlled by technology blockchain which later happened decentralized government


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace. on April 06, 2018, 08:54:45 PM
BITNATION program is very innovative and unique even arguably amazing in my opinion here I think that it is like having a country that all controlled by technology blockchain which later happened decentralized government

Thanks stronger2, we appreciate the support.

Don't forget to follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MyBitNation
Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MyBitnation/
and Join our Telegram Channel: https://t.me/PangeaBitnation


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on April 07, 2018, 10:23:48 PM
Dear Community,

We are excited to announce that the invite link is ready to get the Bitnation iOS App.

Download TestFlight and fill out the form to get an invite to download the app.

http://ios.bitnation.co


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: WhereIsMyBTGNegga?? on April 09, 2018, 01:49:21 PM
Hi!
I've bought tokens some weeks ago but still did not received it to my ETH wallet.
How can I get it?
Thanks


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: DrearyUrbanite on April 09, 2018, 07:40:59 PM
Is there actually a soft cap or do you have enough funds already secured to definitely make Bitnation happen?

Hey DrearyUrbanite, there's actually no soft cap. However, we do have a hard cap of
US$27.3 Million, total hard cap was $30 Million, but $2.7 Million sold in pre-sale in Q4 2017.


Ok that means we will definitely be able to use your service and hopefully see it grow over the coming years no matter how the token sale goes. That's cool! And I like the name Bitnation very much. Everyone involved with crypto gets an idea immediately of what that could be about.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: the1arty on April 09, 2018, 10:04:55 PM
The BitNation foundation was in 2014 and from that time, they really did a lot. Now, it’s the first company, who named itself as a first Internet Government based on blockchain technology, actually on Etherium smart contract technology. What that means? It’s not a secret, that Etherium technology provides maximum security and safety of the data, but what means an “Internet Government”? Let’s try to find it out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ye22aupLyw&t=14s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ye22aupLyw&t=14s)

https://i.imgur.com/Z9hbqCb.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ye22aupLyw&t=14s)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on April 09, 2018, 11:56:41 PM
Hi!
I've bought tokens some weeks ago but still did not received it to my ETH wallet.
How can I get it?
Thanks

Hi! Tokens will be transferred after the token sale.  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Zye on April 10, 2018, 12:37:36 PM

now it is profitable to invest in the project. If you intend to do this, then the best time will be gone.


Thank you for your interest Rugeartreama!

The Public sale is live until the 25th of April (or until the hard-cap is reached!)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: ivan376 on April 10, 2018, 03:34:41 PM
Why people still love to have tokens? Tokens are now getting bad reputation nowadays. Even the mother of all tokens Ethereum is plunging in its value.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: vabchgent on April 10, 2018, 05:11:23 PM
i've read all of your white paper and other of your project documents, and i still don't don't understand what about is this project....

Hi vensky,

Thank you for taking the time to read it. :)

Bitnation is creating a jurisdiction - a legal domain - in which p2p agreements can be made, disputes resolved and contracts enforced through reputation. So the answer is most people would use it - it’s 100 times cheaper than using legacy legal services, more secure, trustworthy and configurable for your life. More and more people live and work across borders and need a jurisdiction to account for that. Even more live and work in the informal economy (2bn according to World Bank estimates) and have no current legal protections. On our jurisdiction you can make enforceable binding agreements without recourse to 3rd parties. Communities and nations can also be built on the jurisdiction to offer services to their members - this means that a free market for governance services is possible - increasing choice and driving down costs.




What happens if I enter a contract with a counterparty and we agree upon certain terms and conditions. Now one party breaks the rules. Who is going to enforce my claims? Will it be acknowledged by any official jurisdiction?

Hey vabchgent,
Enforcement is done through financial and reputation incentives. Contracts are agreed to voluntarily and only apply peer-to-peer, there is no police necessary. Instead of deterrence enforcement is done through positive incentives


Can you think of any scenario where it might make sense for one party to deviate from the contract? Even if it is damaging both parties for example? What happens then? Would a court still be a place to go or how do envision such a situation (if existent) to play out? Very interesting project anyway here!

Hello Vabchgent,

PAT drives the reputation system on Pangea, which provides a native contract enforcement mechanism. Pangea awards three non-tradable sub-tokens for 1.) making and successfully completing contracts and arbitrating disputes (keeping your word), 2.) building and populating  nations and offering services citizens rate highly, 3.) developing and updating smart contracts that are highly rated by users. Users can only rate ‘machines ’ - smart contracts and nations - not other users (to prevent popularity contests), while a machine (AI) rates users against set criteria.

PAT is a tradable reward (like air miles) for building up a good reputation (accumulating non-tradable tokens). It can be used on the platform to buy services and exchanged for other digital assets - we have a deal with shapeshift already. You can also use any other crypto to buy services and trade on Pangea, but use of PAT will provide a small discount.

 So a jurisdiction is a domain of law. In which any agreements can made and upheld to a set of agreed rules (a legal code). Because ours is a peer-to-peer jurisdiction, those rules are agreed between the parties to each agreement, not by any third party or authority. The Pangea jurisdiction allows these agreements to be made, and provides a native human arbitration system to resolve disputes - and a reputation system for enforcement.

In addition to p2p agreements, users can also create their own voluntary communities- nations- for collective agreements, and to offer governance services. These can use the Pangea jurisdiction to their own set of collective rules.

Since they are voluntary (nobody is forced to join them, and any citizen can leave at any time) these communities must compete for citizens in a free market for governance - and it’s perfectly possible - even likely - that users will join several nations to access different services (e.g. a occupation based nation, say for employment and education - e.g. a wheat farmers nation, or a solidity developers nation, another for their local needs - say a neighborhood or city association for trash  collection, basic income and local services, and a cultural nation for religious or other social services - like a nation of Goths or Buddhists.) so governance becomes like other aspects of life, a matter of choosing what suits you best.



















Thank you very much for all those details. It is a very interesting but also challenging concept in the way that it is hard to grasp its potential impact on our real lives. You mention, among others, this example of a wheat farmers nation: that is where I have a hard time to fully understand the consequences of such a nation. If we say that a wheat farmer enters a contract with a baker and both agree on a certain price to be paid for a certain amount of wheat on a specific date via Bitnation (is that a possible example, i.e. a futures contract?), and the baker doesn't pay, then the baker will lose reputation. Does that situation have any consequence outside the "virtual" bitnation world? Or am I totally off here with my example?

I do understand what you are essentially building, at least I believe so. I am just asking myself how Bitnation exists in relation to our current world? Can we just be there and make contracts outside or our jurisdictional world? Is that even legal?

Your reputation on Pangea determines how others view your ability to keep your word. This reduces or increase your chances of other to carry business transactions with you or not in the future. Aside reputation on Pangea which sounds more virtual, there's also an escrow - you will be able to put digital assets into escrow on a blockchain, (examples are land titles, ownership documents for assets like cars etc, deeds for buildings, wills, crypto-currency etc.), these will only be released on contract completion after arbitration. So in your case scenario if baker doesn't pay the farmer, what ever asset that was held in escrow will not be released until he carries out his part of the contract. There's also contract insurance - you can take out insurance against one party failing to fulfill their part of the bargain.

We all operate in both virtual and non-virtual worlds, and more so. You could have a bank account in New York and never visit a bank there or seen any of your cash dollars, but it will still work well for you when you need it because you can access it online. Goods are ordered daily from  Amazon, but nobody goes an Amazon store (in fact like the bank in New York, they don't exist as places you can walk into and do business), but like the dollars from the bank, the books from Amazon arrive on time. Why should jurisdiction be any different? The fact that it is, suggests its an archaic system ripe for disruption.

I hope this answers your question. ;)










It answers my question! :) I can still see scenarios where things don't work out, but that is actually also the case in the world we live in now. If Bitnation gets a lot of adoption the system will mature quickly and things might work out much smoother in the future.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Willliam on April 10, 2018, 05:39:50 PM
The project concept is very interesting. Whitepaper is clear and understandable.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Nowar on April 10, 2018, 05:47:50 PM
Are you going to freeze team's tokens for a while? For how long? Several months or longer?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: 22naru on April 10, 2018, 07:51:03 PM
The project concept is very interesting. Whitepaper is clear and understandable.


i was surprised aswell ,how good  is write it  the whitepaper. i hope all the best for this project.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: thedon1997 on April 10, 2018, 08:20:27 PM
Are you going to freeze team's tokens for a while? For how long? Several months or longer?

Hey Nowar,
Yes, There is a lockup period of 50% of the tokens for a year for founders and early contributors.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on April 11, 2018, 12:07:21 AM
The project concept is very interesting. Whitepaper is clear and understandable.


i was surprised aswell ,how good  is write it  the whitepaper. i hope all the best for this project.

Thank you! We appreciate it!  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Maslate on April 11, 2018, 06:51:26 AM
The project concept is very interesting. Whitepaper is clear and understandable.


i was surprised aswell ,how good  is write it  the whitepaper. i hope all the best for this project.
And I was also surprise why we are not making a good amount of collection, this project deserves a bigger contribution.
Until now, as I checked, the total collection is less than 1K eth, it deserves more by now.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: triclinics21 on April 11, 2018, 08:48:42 AM
When will the bitnation public sale start ?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on April 11, 2018, 08:56:38 AM
When will the bitnation public sale start ?

Hello Triclinic21, our public sale is live!!

Public sale will be live until 25.04.2018 or When hard cap is reached. :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on April 11, 2018, 11:54:54 AM
Are you going to freeze team's tokens for a while? For how long? Several months or longer?

Hi Nowar, team's tokens has a one year vesting period. :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: allfriends88 on April 11, 2018, 03:48:24 PM
When will the bitnation public sale start ?

Hello Triclinic21, our public sale is live!!

Public sale will be live until 25.04.2018 or When hard cap is reached. :)
There is still time to be involved with this project and I hope that in the remaining time the public sale more and more investors who join in this project so that the sale of tokens can be a hard cap.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: OzhogCoin on April 12, 2018, 09:06:17 AM
The project concept is very interesting. Whitepaper is clear and understandable.


i was surprised aswell ,how good  is write it  the whitepaper. i hope all the best for this project.
And I was also surprise why we are not making a good amount of collection, this project deserves a bigger contribution.
Until now, as I checked, the total collection is less than 1K eth, it deserves more by now.
Undoubtedly, it deserves more, maybe just information about the project has not yet intensely spread


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on April 12, 2018, 12:32:05 PM
The project concept is very interesting. Whitepaper is clear and understandable.


i was surprised aswell ,how good  is write it  the whitepaper. i hope all the best for this project.
And I was also surprise why we are not making a good amount of collection, this project deserves a bigger contribution.
Until now, as I checked, the total collection is less than 1K eth, it deserves more by now.
Undoubtedly, it deserves more, maybe just information about the project has not yet intensely spread
Thanks a lot for the support everyone. :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: uma@2709 on April 12, 2018, 01:04:57 PM
The commendable work being done by all the members, I am happy that I am part of this project. Crypto is the beautiful initiative in the world.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: felista32 on April 12, 2018, 03:00:47 PM
hello!
When the ICO start and end?
presale is avaliable?
am can not find this information ???


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: BestKait on April 12, 2018, 05:23:44 PM
hello!
When the ICO start and end?
presale is avaliable?
am can not find this information ???

Hi there, We are presently in the main sale stage. This will run until April 25th :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: infested999 on April 13, 2018, 06:27:59 PM
The word freedom was associated with the less of borders. People wanna be free and have as many possibilities and chances as they can get. Bitnation is comes like a glove for this idea, and even more, takes the idea and use it to create a better world over the next years.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace. on April 13, 2018, 09:04:35 PM
The word freedom was associated with the less of borders. People wanna be free and have as many possibilities and chances as they can get. Bitnation is comes like a glove for this idea, and even more, takes the idea and use it to create a better world over the next years.

Thank you for the support. We appreciate it.

Please join us on Telegram: https://t.me/PangeaBitnation
Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MyBitNation
Like us onFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/MyBitnation/


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on April 15, 2018, 12:36:51 AM
Dear community members,

Sharing with you a review of Bitnation, check it out  ;)

Part 1: The Wonderful Holacratic World: https://medium.com/@100xicos/bitnation-review-part-1-the-wonderful-holacratic-world-943875cb7df7

Part 2: The Team & Advisors: https://medium.com/@100xicos/bitnation-review-part-2-the-team-advisors-e5130c49560e


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace. on April 15, 2018, 08:57:39 PM
I don't know why but the white paper link doesn't work. :-\ I need to read through the white paper to understand the project clearly

Hi, within the website: https://tse.bitnation.co/, you will see the options whitepaper, litepaper and translations.
Click the whitepaper and it will be downloaded.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: DrearyUrbanite on April 16, 2018, 12:02:48 PM
The project concept is very interesting. Whitepaper is clear and understandable.


i was surprised aswell ,how good  is write it  the whitepaper. i hope all the best for this project.
And I was also surprise why we are not making a good amount of collection, this project deserves a bigger contribution.
Until now, as I checked, the total collection is less than 1K eth, it deserves more by now.

I imagine they would have collected tens of thousands of ETH if they held their sale last year around summer.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Cryptochel on April 16, 2018, 03:29:52 PM
The Bitnation.co platform is developing a revolutionary shift in paradigm that has the potential of shaking the very core of global government as we know it. 8)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: vabchgent on April 16, 2018, 07:18:09 PM
The Bitnation.co platform is developing a revolutionary shift in paradigm that has the potential of shaking the very core of global government as we know it. 8)

It will raise some questions if more and more start using it as a lot of processes are probably a lot simpler than in our real world. Having parallel systems that offer alternatives is always good.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on April 17, 2018, 12:30:08 AM
The Bitnation.co platform is developing a revolutionary shift in paradigm that has the potential of shaking the very core of global government as we know it. 8)

It will raise some questions if more and more start using it as a lot of processes are probably a lot simpler than in our real world. Having parallel systems that offer alternatives is always good.

As more people use decentralized governance, then legacy systems will need to evolve to compete. We expect to see a rapid evolution in governance in the future like Bitcoin adoption causes the financial infrastructure to change.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on April 18, 2018, 04:06:53 AM
Hi everyone,

Sharing with you a Steemit post,


Bitnation.co Governance 2.0: The Internet Of Sovereignty

"Before we critically analyze how Bitnation brings decentralization to government system through the use of blockchain technology, it is imperative that we know how they do it—and it is straightforward. Just like most other decentralization systems, Bitnation developing a control or power shift from the states of a nation down to the citizens of that nation."

Link: https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@hobo66/bitnation-co-governance-2-0-the-internet-of-sovereignty


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Jeronimo78 on April 18, 2018, 09:48:09 PM
The project itself looks promising, but given the situation on the market, I have a question: how do you plan to provide or protect the price of your token after they go to the crypto exchange?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on April 19, 2018, 12:37:01 AM
The project itself looks promising, but given the situation on the market, I have a question: how do you plan to provide or protect the price of your token after they go to the crypto exchange?

Jeronimo78,

Once PAT are exchange listed their price will be based upon supply and demand like any other asset; so demand for PAT, which will be driven by demand for services and trade on Pangea, is ultimately what will influence the token price.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: DrearyUrbanite on April 19, 2018, 12:00:12 PM
The project itself looks promising, but given the situation on the market, I have a question: how do you plan to provide or protect the price of your token after they go to the crypto exchange?

Jeronimo78,

Once PAT are exchange listed their price will be based upon supply and demand like any other asset; so demand for PAT, which will be driven by demand for services and trade on Pangea, is ultimately what will influence the token price.

How can the average Joe actually contribute to foster utility on the platform? By using it and spreading the word or are there other ways? Can someone become a Bitnation lawyer? Does Bitnation acknowledge education? Could someone offer an educational degree program on Bitnation?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on April 19, 2018, 12:53:03 PM
The project itself looks promising, but given the situation on the market, I have a question: how do you plan to provide or protect the price of your token after they go to the crypto exchange?

Jeronimo78,

Once PAT are exchange listed their price will be based upon supply and demand like any other asset; so demand for PAT, which will be driven by demand for services and trade on Pangea, is ultimately what will influence the token price.

How can the average Joe actually contribute to foster utility on the platform? By using it and spreading the word or are there other ways? Can someone become a Bitnation lawyer? Does Bitnation acknowledge education? Could someone offer an educational degree program on Bitnation?

Hello there, Bitnation does acknowledge education.
 Lawyers can offer services to their members their Nation and this means that a free market for governance services is possible.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: budrabut on April 19, 2018, 12:56:59 PM
an interesting project I think if you see an explanation on this project thread, coin sales are also very clear and interesting with the promotional program in the form of bonuses offered


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace. on April 19, 2018, 04:31:54 PM
an interesting project I think if you see an explanation on this project thread, coin sales are also very clear and interesting with the promotional program in the form of bonuses offered


Hello budrabut, we highly appreciate your support for the project. 

Feel free to contact us via telegram https://t.me/PangeaBitnation if you have questions for this matter.

Thank you.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on April 20, 2018, 12:22:32 AM
When will the bitnation public sale start ?

Sales have already begun and now it is very profitable to buy tokens, because there is a good discount. Sales will be completed on April 25.

Token sale is live and will be live until 25.04.2018 or when the hard cap $27.3 Million USD is reached.  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Zye on April 20, 2018, 11:43:50 AM
Hello Everyone!
I would like to share this Steemit Article with you:

"BITNATION: A Decentralized Borderless Voluntary Nation (DBVN)"


"Pangea brings you plenty of legal services on this new decentralized market. It is a jurisdiction and governance platform. With Pangea you are creating peer-to-peer agreements. Everything will be pre-agreed and nothing will be unfair."


https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@sneki/bitnation-a-decentralized-borderless-voluntary-nation-dbvn


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace. on April 20, 2018, 08:12:37 PM
Hello Bitnation community,

We would like you to know that you can buy Bitnation franchise in these sites:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CG9CWV2

https://www.redbubble.com/es/people/textartlogos/works/31337903-bitnation-save-the-nation-lose-the-state?asc=u&p=t-shirt


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: lps21 on April 21, 2018, 02:41:47 AM
Hi everyone,

Check out this YouTube video regarding a review of Bitnation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUozHodPMhA it's a great watch!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: FinalCo on April 21, 2018, 02:59:50 AM
The actual very serious technology! I'm waiting for good news from this strong project team and wish a big profit!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: lps21 on April 22, 2018, 12:42:51 AM
The actual very serious technology! I'm waiting for good news from this strong project team and wish a big profit!

Thank you for the great support, you are awesome too!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Zye on April 22, 2018, 11:48:36 AM
Hello!

Just wanted to share this Steemit article with you all!  8)

"The project originates back in 2014. The ideological leader of the project and the founder is Susanne Tarkowski Tempelhof (Susanne Tempelhof), to which Rick Falkvinge soon joined, the founder of the Pirate party. Interestingly during this long existence the project managed to play the first blockchain wedding"

https://steemit.com/blockchain/@den360/bitnation


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: vabchgent on April 22, 2018, 04:07:36 PM
The Bitnation.co platform is developing a revolutionary shift in paradigm that has the potential of shaking the very core of global government as we know it. 8)

It will raise some questions if more and more start using it as a lot of processes are probably a lot simpler than in our real world. Having parallel systems that offer alternatives is always good.

As more people use decentralized governance, then legacy systems will need to evolve to compete. We expect to see a rapid evolution in governance in the future like Bitcoin adoption causes the financial infrastructure to change.

Legacy systems might not be agile enough to compete with those systems that are completely new and ready to adapt to the desires of the new generations.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace. on April 22, 2018, 06:56:43 PM
Hello Bitnation community,

We would like to share the first look of BitNation Pangea Android App: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7owjjwQS-Ss


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: anu9950 on April 23, 2018, 10:05:41 AM
The project is preceded by its turning point, we call upon all investors to join the project and give a beautiful dimension to their investment. Given the changing global change, there is a bold and well-known project in the crypto world.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: KotiKo on April 23, 2018, 10:25:41 AM
In the Bitnation ecosystem, four main aspects are involved. The most basic level is the World Citizen, which is available for any level.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: KotiKo on April 23, 2018, 10:28:10 AM
Ultimately, Bitnation is popular among those who believe in a world without borders, where citizens of the planet can freely move between any economic structures that they think are most suitable for them :) :) :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Kriptos on April 24, 2018, 08:04:46 AM
I am amazed by this project, since the project brought a very nice concept.
current project competition getting tougher, but I believe that the team can make this project can compete with other projects.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: rezakurnia66 on April 24, 2018, 08:13:33 AM
I am amazed by this project, since the project brought a very nice concept.
current project competition getting tougher, but I believe that the team can make this project can compete with other projects.
view of the team that worked on this project I also believe that the project would bring them up to success because the team had a good performance so far.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: bantalguling on April 24, 2018, 08:25:53 AM
interesting projects with some items developed including promotional programs such as bounty campaign with considerable allocation of funds, for coin sales programs, what if there are unsold coins, whether to burn


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on April 24, 2018, 08:47:22 AM
interesting projects with some items developed including promotional programs such as bounty campaign with considerable allocation of funds, for coin sales programs, what if there are unsold coins, whether to burn

Hello there, thanks for the massive support.

Unsold  tokens will be returned to reserve. Below is how reserved tokens are going to be used:
68% is either sold or earned on the app as reputation rewards.
18% is for team and contributors.
14% is reserve for bounties and future contributors.



Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: miha on April 25, 2018, 10:32:24 AM
interesting projects with some items developed including promotional programs such as bounty campaign with considerable allocation of funds, for coin sales programs, what if there are unsold coins, whether to burn

Hello there, thanks for the massive support.

Unsold  tokens will be returned to reserve. Below is how reserved tokens are going to be used:
68% is either sold or earned on the app as reputation rewards.
18% is for team and contributors.
14% is reserve for bounties and future contributors.



it means unsold tokens will not be burned? it is not realy good for investors and contributors..am i wrong?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: vabchgent on April 25, 2018, 11:39:32 AM
interesting projects with some items developed including promotional programs such as bounty campaign with considerable allocation of funds, for coin sales programs, what if there are unsold coins, whether to burn

Hello there, thanks for the massive support.

Unsold  tokens will be returned to reserve. Below is how reserved tokens are going to be used:
68% is either sold or earned on the app as reputation rewards.
18% is for team and contributors.
14% is reserve for bounties and future contributors.



it means unsold tokens will not be burned? it is not realy good for investors and contributors..am i wrong?

It has been laid out as such from the very beginning. They never changed the terms and everyone reading the whitepaper knows about the situation. Why do you think it is still bad?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: thedon1997 on April 25, 2018, 04:21:12 PM
interesting projects with some items developed including promotional programs such as bounty campaign with considerable allocation of funds, for coin sales programs, what if there are unsold coins, whether to burn

Hello there, thanks for the massive support.

Unsold  tokens will be returned to reserve. Below is how reserved tokens are going to be used:
68% is either sold or earned on the app as reputation rewards.
18% is for team and contributors.
14% is reserve for bounties and future contributors.



it means unsold tokens will not be burned? it is not realy good for investors and contributors..am i wrong?

Hey Miha, yes, Unsold tokens will not be burnt, but returned back to the reserve, this because we cannot remove any tokens from the total supply as it is important for the pangea system to have 42 Billion tokens :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: KotiKo on April 25, 2018, 06:18:20 PM
I am amazed by this project, since the project brought a very nice concept.
current project competition getting tougher, but I believe that the team can make this project can compete with other projects.
view of the team that worked on this project I also believe that the project would bring them up to success because the team had a good performance so far.
And I'm sure that in the future the team will show even more excellent results! Good specialists gathered here


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: lps21 on April 26, 2018, 12:49:02 AM
Hey everyone,

Check out this article: https://medium.com/@arditfixni16/bitnation-in-bitnations-world-you-can-become-a-citizen-of-any-nation-through-a-smartphone-4e49b20ca9dc

BITNATION : In Bitnation’s world, you can become a Citizen of any Nation through a smartphone application

Be sure to take some to click the link.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Maslate on April 26, 2018, 07:24:26 AM
Is the ICO still ongoing, I saw the bounty campaign was ended on 26th of April.
I am wondering if the ICO is close or not yet, can we have a full information from the team, the site does not show any information
like a counter for the duration of ICO.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on April 26, 2018, 11:12:33 AM
Is the ICO still ongoing, I saw the bounty campaign was ended on 26th of April.
I am wondering if the ICO is close or not yet, can we have a full information from the team, the site does not show any information
like a counter for the duration of ICO.

Hey Maslate, the token sale ended on 25th April.  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: KotiKo on April 26, 2018, 03:27:49 PM
Bitnation is a voluntary association of people based on a community of interests, goals and any other that can connect them. Digital nations exist on the platform Pangea, a specially created software. The task of the project is to allow people to get out of the dictates of state machines and become free. This is complete freedom of choice! I love it! ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: lps21 on April 28, 2018, 12:25:45 AM
Hi everyone,

Check out this article regarding Bitnation and the Citizenship you wish to have: https://steemit.com/blockchain/@hardhouse/bitnation-blockchain-startup-offers-the-citizenship-you-wish-to-have it's a great read!  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on April 28, 2018, 09:11:50 AM
Bitnation is a voluntary association of people based on a community of interests, goals and any other that can connect them. Digital nations exist on the platform Pangea, a specially created software. The task of the project is to allow people to get out of the dictates of state machines and become free. This is complete freedom of choice! I love it! ;D

Hi Kotiko, hearing this sounds awesome to me! It's good to know you such in-depth knowledge about Bitnation.
Thank you very much for the support.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: hasidz7887876 on April 29, 2018, 05:42:42 AM
With cardano’s methodical and scientific process approach, along with a really strong team. Its going to be the foundation for the next generation of the blockchain.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: lps21 on April 29, 2018, 10:14:59 PM
With cardano’s methodical and scientific process approach, along with a really strong team. Its going to be the foundation for the next generation of the blockchain.
Hi hasidz7887876,

I appreciate the enthusiasm but please stick to the topic of Bitnation tokens or PAT.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Maslate on April 30, 2018, 11:20:26 AM
Is the ICO still ongoing, I saw the bounty campaign was ended on 26th of April.
I am wondering if the ICO is close or not yet, can we have a full information from the team, the site does not show any information
like a counter for the duration of ICO.

Hey Maslate, the token sale ended on 25th April.  :)
Ohh, I am sorry, I stand corrected.
But, can you check https://tse.bitnation.co/getpat/? it says "Token Sale Phase III Starting Soon", so that means there is another round?
I think they really want to collect a good amount, the website only showed 1900 ETH which is IMO a small amount.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on April 30, 2018, 01:17:18 PM
Is the ICO still ongoing, I saw the bounty campaign was ended on 26th of April.
I am wondering if the ICO is close or not yet, can we have a full information from the team, the site does not show any information
like a counter for the duration of ICO.

Hey Maslate, the token sale ended on 25th April.  :)
Ohh, I am sorry, I stand corrected.
But, can you check https://tse.bitnation.co/getpat/? it says "Token Sale Phase III Starting Soon", so that means there is another round?
I think they really want to collect a good amount, the website only showed 1900 ETH which is IMO a small amount.

Hi Maslate,yes there's another one  and this will begin in around 6 weeks, but we cannot confirm as there is work to do on the marketing end before we start.
We did not meet our hard cap in phase 2, we believe we have enough to do the job, and will strive to reach the hard cap through phase 3. Phase 3 will be a slow release (1% per month), both through the website and on exchanges for 24 months.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: DrearyUrbanite on April 30, 2018, 09:47:53 PM
The project itself looks promising, but given the situation on the market, I have a question: how do you plan to provide or protect the price of your token after they go to the crypto exchange?

Jeronimo78,

Once PAT are exchange listed their price will be based upon supply and demand like any other asset; so demand for PAT, which will be driven by demand for services and trade on Pangea, is ultimately what will influence the token price.

How can the average Joe actually contribute to foster utility on the platform? By using it and spreading the word or are there other ways? Can someone become a Bitnation lawyer? Does Bitnation acknowledge education? Could someone offer an educational degree program on Bitnation?

Hello there, Bitnation does acknowledge education.
 Lawyers can offer services to their members their Nation and this means that a free market for governance services is possible.

That means it is up to the nation members to confirm that a lawyer doesn't only pretend to be a lawyer, but is in fact one? Or could they even decide to acknowledge someone as a lawyer although that person doesn't hold a degree? Is it all up to the people?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on April 30, 2018, 10:56:01 PM
The project itself looks promising, but given the situation on the market, I have a question: how do you plan to provide or protect the price of your token after they go to the crypto exchange?

Jeronimo78,

Once PAT are exchange listed their price will be based upon supply and demand like any other asset; so demand for PAT, which will be driven by demand for services and trade on Pangea, is ultimately what will influence the token price.

How can the average Joe actually contribute to foster utility on the platform? By using it and spreading the word or are there other ways? Can someone become a Bitnation lawyer? Does Bitnation acknowledge education? Could someone offer an educational degree program on Bitnation?

Hello there, Bitnation does acknowledge education.
 Lawyers can offer services to their members their Nation and this means that a free market for governance services is possible.

That means it is up to the nation members to confirm that a lawyer doesn't only pretend to be a lawyer, but is in fact one? Or could they even decide to acknowledge someone as a lawyer although that person doesn't hold a degree? Is it all up to the people?

This is from the whitepaper,

Market for Freelance Arbitrators, Smart Contracts and Laws: Anyone can sign up as an arbitrator on Pangea and offer arbitration and mediation services. You could be a Wall Street lawyer offering to arbitrate complex mergers and acquisitions cases or a car motor dealer offering to resolve second hand car sales disputes. Each arbitrator sets their own fee rate and availability, and describes their experience and expertise, and the code of laws and jurisdictions they know. Citizens entering into contracts can choose arbitrators based on price, reputation and expertise.

Whitepaper page 8: https://tse.bitnation.co/documents/

Here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL4eM9JyL08


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on May 02, 2018, 03:08:31 AM
Hi everyone,

We are proud  to share with you an Interview with Bitnation founder, Susanne Tarkowski

Interview with Bitnation founder: A platform for Governance 2.0

"Many early users are using Bitnation to fill the gaps where their territorial nation cannot be of much help - say making an agreement to work online across national borders, or for those working in the informal economy, or stateless people who have no access to legal protections, or where some of the ways they want to live their lives are made illegal, like gay marriage in some countries, for example, and they want a secure jurisdiction in which to make a contract. We have also been approached by several nation states and local authorities who recognise that p2p governance service provision may save them a lot of money, and make services less monolithic and much more responsive and efficient."

You can read the rest here: https://cryptoinsider.21mil.com/interview-bitnation-founder-platform-governance-2-0/


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: alvena on May 02, 2018, 05:11:02 PM

A fairly good result, the team can be congratulated on this achievement. Is this enough money to implement the project?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: BestKait on May 02, 2018, 06:13:36 PM

A fairly good result, the team can be congratulated on this achievement. Is this enough money to implement the project?

Hi there!

You can see how much has been raised currently by visiting the Bitnation website and simply clicking on ''GET PAT''. Here is the link: tse.bitnaiton.co.

 :D ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Maslate on May 03, 2018, 06:04:41 AM

A fairly good result, the team can be congratulated on this achievement. Is this enough money to implement the project?

Hi there!

You can see how much has been raised currently by visiting the Bitnation website and simply clicking on ''GET PAT''. Here is the link: tse.bitnaiton.co.

 :D ;)
If I am not mistaken, the price that was displayed in the website was the price collected during the ICO.
I think we also deserved to know the amount collected during the presale and it will be nice if there is a consolidated total amount of collection
and it should be coming from the team.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Sammied on May 03, 2018, 09:57:41 AM

A fairly good result, the team can be congratulated on this achievement. Is this enough money to implement the project?

Hi there!

You can see how much has been raised currently by visiting the Bitnation website and simply clicking on ''GET PAT''. Here is the link: tse.bitnaiton.co.

 :D ;)
If I am not mistaken, the price that was displayed in the website was the price collected during the ICO.
I think we also deserved to know the amount collected during the presale and it will be nice if there is a consolidated total amount of collection
and it should be coming from the team.

Hi Maslate,the collected amount in the pre-sale is public knowledge, 2.7 MM.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: lps21 on May 05, 2018, 01:37:43 AM
Hi everyone,

Check out this article about Bitnation Blockchain Jurisdiction is released on Android and iOS:

http://hibusiness.ca/2018/04/26/bitnation-blockchain-jurisdiction-is-released-for-android-and-ios/

It's a great read and has some interesting information, make sure to read the link!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on May 06, 2018, 03:09:26 AM

A fairly good result, the team can be congratulated on this achievement. Is this enough money to implement the project?

Hey alvena,

The project had not soft cap, so yes it will be going ahead!!!  :D :D :D


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: DrearyUrbanite on May 06, 2018, 03:46:04 AM
The project itself looks promising, but given the situation on the market, I have a question: how do you plan to provide or protect the price of your token after they go to the crypto exchange?

Jeronimo78,

Once PAT are exchange listed their price will be based upon supply and demand like any other asset; so demand for PAT, which will be driven by demand for services and trade on Pangea, is ultimately what will influence the token price.

How can the average Joe actually contribute to foster utility on the platform? By using it and spreading the word or are there other ways? Can someone become a Bitnation lawyer? Does Bitnation acknowledge education? Could someone offer an educational degree program on Bitnation?

Hello there, Bitnation does acknowledge education.
 Lawyers can offer services to their members their Nation and this means that a free market for governance services is possible.

That means it is up to the nation members to confirm that a lawyer doesn't only pretend to be a lawyer, but is in fact one? Or could they even decide to acknowledge someone as a lawyer although that person doesn't hold a degree? Is it all up to the people?

This is from the whitepaper,

Market for Freelance Arbitrators, Smart Contracts and Laws: Anyone can sign up as an arbitrator on Pangea and offer arbitration and mediation services. You could be a Wall Street lawyer offering to arbitrate complex mergers and acquisitions cases or a car motor dealer offering to resolve second hand car sales disputes. Each arbitrator sets their own fee rate and availability, and describes their experience and expertise, and the code of laws and jurisdictions they know. Citizens entering into contracts can choose arbitrators based on price, reputation and expertise.

Whitepaper page 8: https://tse.bitnation.co/documents/

Here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL4eM9JyL08

Ok, but the contracts have to be more detailed than in real life maybe, couldn't that be the case? For example in real life as of now, you know that courts will take care of punishing someone for violating a contract according to criminal justice. So to say you have two spheres now which is criminal justice and civil justice. In Pangea it feels more like you only have the civil justice. Does that make sense what I say? Do you know what I mean?

If, theoretically, a contract is only made via a nation on Pangea, could someone be sent to jail for violating a contract based on Pangea? It's not like a person would go voluntarily, someone has to make a ruling for that. Would a judiciary fully acknowledge those contracts? I hope it makes sense what I ask.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: lps21 on May 06, 2018, 04:20:18 AM
The project itself looks promising, but given the situation on the market, I have a question: how do you plan to provide or protect the price of your token after they go to the crypto exchange?

Jeronimo78,

Once PAT are exchange listed their price will be based upon supply and demand like any other asset; so demand for PAT, which will be driven by demand for services and trade on Pangea, is ultimately what will influence the token price.

How can the average Joe actually contribute to foster utility on the platform? By using it and spreading the word or are there other ways? Can someone become a Bitnation lawyer? Does Bitnation acknowledge education? Could someone offer an educational degree program on Bitnation?

Hello there, Bitnation does acknowledge education.
 Lawyers can offer services to their members their Nation and this means that a free market for governance services is possible.

That means it is up to the nation members to confirm that a lawyer doesn't only pretend to be a lawyer, but is in fact one? Or could they even decide to acknowledge someone as a lawyer although that person doesn't hold a degree? Is it all up to the people?

This is from the whitepaper,

Market for Freelance Arbitrators, Smart Contracts and Laws: Anyone can sign up as an arbitrator on Pangea and offer arbitration and mediation services. You could be a Wall Street lawyer offering to arbitrate complex mergers and acquisitions cases or a car motor dealer offering to resolve second hand car sales disputes. Each arbitrator sets their own fee rate and availability, and describes their experience and expertise, and the code of laws and jurisdictions they know. Citizens entering into contracts can choose arbitrators based on price, reputation and expertise.

Whitepaper page 8: https://tse.bitnation.co/documents/

Here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL4eM9JyL08

Ok, but the contracts have to be more detailed than in real life maybe, couldn't that be the case? For example in real life as of now, you know that courts will take care of punishing someone for violating a contract according to criminal justice. So to say you have two spheres now which is criminal justice and civil justice. In Pangea it feels more like you only have the civil justice. Does that make sense what I say? Do you know what I mean?

If, theoretically, a contract is only made via a nation on Pangea, could someone be sent to jail for violating a contract based on Pangea? It's not like a person would go voluntarily, someone has to make a ruling for that. Would a judiciary fully acknowledge those contracts? I hope it makes sense what I ask.

That's a very interesting point, DrearyUrbanite. I do want to point out that most courts can punish someone for a breach of contract which is something that Bitnation citizens will have, so technically speaking the contract would be enforceable. And unlike usual nations, the nations in Bitnation will be made of people who want to be part of a bigger movement and they voluntarily join said nations, it would seem to be in their best interest to follow the smart contracts that they have previously agreed to.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: tiimothy on May 06, 2018, 08:52:04 AM
hi.i am interesting in the bitnation.and when the presale will start?if it have any bounty campaign?i want to know more news about it.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Charloz24 on May 06, 2018, 08:56:33 AM
Bitnation rised more than 4000ethereum. Your idea of world decentralization very perspective but so fantastic! Pangea is a widely secured mesh network which is forming a distributed web. The latter is accessed through an interface of smartphone chat and it is incredibly user friendly. The Pangea Jurisdiction is powered by a blockchain agnostic functionality navigated with the usage of smart contracts.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: JaceMace. on May 06, 2018, 07:22:09 PM
hi.i am interesting in the bitnation.and when the presale will start?if it have any bounty campaign?i want to know more news about it.

Hello tiimothy, the main sale has already ended April 25, 2018. For bounty related questions you may post it here at bounty thread group: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3081168 or you may join our Telegram Bounty Group: https://t.me/bitnationbounty.  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Felicisimoiii on May 08, 2018, 02:40:42 AM
Bitnation rised more than 4000ethereum. Your idea of world decentralization very perspective but so fantastic! Pangea is a widely secured mesh network which is forming a distributed web. The latter is accessed through an interface of smartphone chat and it is incredibly user friendly. The Pangea Jurisdiction is powered by a blockchain agnostic functionality navigated with the usage of smart contracts.

Thank you for supporting bitnation, we appreciate it! ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kieran_84 on May 09, 2018, 04:23:41 AM
Hey Bitnation supporters!!!  :D :D :D

Please make sure you join us on Telegram if you haven't already!

Bitnation Chat: https://t.me/PangeaBitnation

Bitnations News Announcements: https://t.me/bitnationpangea


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Maslate on May 10, 2018, 11:34:45 AM

A fairly good result, the team can be congratulated on this achievement. Is this enough money to implement the project?

Hi there!

You can see how much has been raised currently by visiting the Bitnation website and simply clicking on ''GET PAT''. Here is the link: tse.bitnaiton.co.

 :D ;)
If I am not mistaken, the price that was displayed in the website was the price collected during the ICO.
I think we also deserved to know the amount collected during the presale and it will be nice if there is a consolidated total amount of collection
and it should be coming from the team.

Hi Maslate,the collected amount in the pre-sale is public knowledge, 2.7 MM.
That is only for presale, what is the total amount collected including the main token sale?
It seems like the amount collected is low with this very good project, if this will come out in the trading site, normally it will start with a low price IMO.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: vabchgent on May 11, 2018, 08:22:28 PM
Bitnation rised more than 4000ethereum. Your idea of world decentralization very perspective but so fantastic! Pangea is a widely secured mesh network which is forming a distributed web. The latter is accessed through an interface of smartphone chat and it is incredibly user friendly. The Pangea Jurisdiction is powered by a blockchain agnostic functionality navigated with the usage of smart contracts.

Is that the amount of public token sale and private token sale together? Because I thought they raised a little less than 2000 ETH.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: bienvang192 on May 12, 2018, 10:15:20 AM
So interesting ideas coming from your team!  Let’s make this grow up ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Danillo17 on May 16, 2018, 03:16:57 AM
Hello, I have a question that I hope is simple. I sent 2 times ether to the ico. But I only received one transaction with the PATs. Has the two shipments been considered in this single transfer? How can I calculate the correct value? Thank you


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: vabchgent on May 17, 2018, 10:00:35 PM
Hello, I have a question that I hope is simple. I sent 2 times ether to the ico. But I only received one transaction with the PATs. Has the two shipments been considered in this single transfer? How can I calculate the correct value? Thank you

I would join the telegram group to resolve that issue over there. They are available to help you.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Henry4457 on May 19, 2018, 02:44:54 AM
Can I have your telegram's link? :D


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: rfcdejong on May 19, 2018, 08:35:32 PM
How to understand the expression "Any member can create their own DVBN-nations or join existing ones, write laws and constitution from scratch or use existing ones"? Does it mean that each participant is allowed act at his own discretion? In general, I hope that the bulk of such contradictions will be unpack for ordinary users.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: holdmycoins on May 24, 2018, 01:39:10 PM
Guys message me if you have problem about Bitnation bounty. We will act together if they do not solve our problem.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: miha on May 25, 2018, 08:04:51 PM
in telegram chat someone of team promissed exchange in weekend or earlier next week. is that true?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kubori102 on May 26, 2018, 01:29:27 AM
This is the long term hodl kind of ICO... Invest if you believe in the project because if/when it succeeds it will be a fair deal you were getting.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kobe24 on May 26, 2018, 05:10:05 PM
Bitnation is undervalued for now and i think if they will hit exchanges there will be a big dump especially those bounty hunters has a large share of tokens


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: DrearyUrbanite on May 28, 2018, 03:00:21 AM
The project itself looks promising, but given the situation on the market, I have a question: how do you plan to provide or protect the price of your token after they go to the crypto exchange?

Jeronimo78,

Once PAT are exchange listed their price will be based upon supply and demand like any other asset; so demand for PAT, which will be driven by demand for services and trade on Pangea, is ultimately what will influence the token price.

How can the average Joe actually contribute to foster utility on the platform? By using it and spreading the word or are there other ways? Can someone become a Bitnation lawyer? Does Bitnation acknowledge education? Could someone offer an educational degree program on Bitnation?

Hello there, Bitnation does acknowledge education.
 Lawyers can offer services to their members their Nation and this means that a free market for governance services is possible.

That means it is up to the nation members to confirm that a lawyer doesn't only pretend to be a lawyer, but is in fact one? Or could they even decide to acknowledge someone as a lawyer although that person doesn't hold a degree? Is it all up to the people?

This is from the whitepaper,

Market for Freelance Arbitrators, Smart Contracts and Laws: Anyone can sign up as an arbitrator on Pangea and offer arbitration and mediation services. You could be a Wall Street lawyer offering to arbitrate complex mergers and acquisitions cases or a car motor dealer offering to resolve second hand car sales disputes. Each arbitrator sets their own fee rate and availability, and describes their experience and expertise, and the code of laws and jurisdictions they know. Citizens entering into contracts can choose arbitrators based on price, reputation and expertise.

Whitepaper page 8: https://tse.bitnation.co/documents/

Here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL4eM9JyL08

Ok, but the contracts have to be more detailed than in real life maybe, couldn't that be the case? For example in real life as of now, you know that courts will take care of punishing someone for violating a contract according to criminal justice. So to say you have two spheres now which is criminal justice and civil justice. In Pangea it feels more like you only have the civil justice. Does that make sense what I say? Do you know what I mean?

If, theoretically, a contract is only made via a nation on Pangea, could someone be sent to jail for violating a contract based on Pangea? It's not like a person would go voluntarily, someone has to make a ruling for that. Would a judiciary fully acknowledge those contracts? I hope it makes sense what I ask.

That's a very interesting point, DrearyUrbanite. I do want to point out that most courts can punish someone for a breach of contract which is something that Bitnation citizens will have, so technically speaking the contract would be enforceable. And unlike usual nations, the nations in Bitnation will be made of people who want to be part of a bigger movement and they voluntarily join said nations, it would seem to be in their best interest to follow the smart contracts that they have previously agreed to.

If voluntarism was a solution to a lot of problems, it would be much more pervasive than it is today. The problem is that voluntarism often turned out to be a very limited concept in terms of achievement of common goals.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: miha on May 29, 2018, 09:13:48 PM
Bitnation is undervalued for now and i think if they will hit exchanges there will be a big dump especially those bounty hunters has a large share of tokens

so what. let unters go out. until bounty hunters will not sell tokens, atleast those of them who want, there always wil be a treat of dump. it is 1st.
2nd: you. Sr.member. seriously stil think that 1% will beat another 99% sold tokens? ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kurniawan05 on May 29, 2018, 11:16:34 PM
Hello dev, How many total token supply and token circulation after ico end? and will the unsold token be burn? and where is the market for bitnation right now?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: KotiKo on June 03, 2018, 06:47:57 PM
Since the beginning of its development in July 2014, platform developers have implemented functionality for issuing marriage certificates, birth certificates, assigning a refugee identification number, created World Citizenship, the Constitution of DBVN and much more. A lot of work has already been done!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: MrDom2 on June 03, 2018, 07:06:35 PM
http://bitcoinist.com/3-icos-huge-potential-2018/


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: monarx911@i.ua on June 06, 2018, 08:06:28 PM
what are the plans of the team for further development, and are negotiations going on with a new exchange?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: herehero on June 11, 2018, 10:10:21 AM
It can trade in bancor now, but the price is very low, about 15% of the offering price.

Worst news because of I invested some ETH in it.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: monarx911@i.ua on June 11, 2018, 12:03:16 PM
the price holds well for such a project and such large bounty program payments


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Gabriellla on June 11, 2018, 01:45:22 PM
The project itself looks promising, but given the situation on the market, I have a question: how do you plan to provide or protect the price of your token after they go to the crypto exchange?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: herehero on June 12, 2018, 07:36:56 AM
The project itself looks promising, but given the situation on the market, I have a question: how do you plan to provide or protect the price of your token after they go to the crypto exchange?


Good question,  the total supply is too large. I begin to regret this ICO invest.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: belovni@gmail.com on June 12, 2018, 07:44:38 AM
The Pangea Jurisdiction is a very thoughtful system, I like it, it's a step forward in justice.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Ziskinberg on June 13, 2018, 11:47:57 AM
The project itself looks promising, but given the situation on the market, I have a question: how do you plan to provide or protect the price of your token after they go to the crypto exchange?


Good question,  the total supply is too large. I begin to regret this ICO invest.
It's not about the supply IMO, maybe you will not see it's profitable now because bitcoin price is down and everything is affected.
Soon, once price will start to rise, altcoins will follow and I am sure XPAT will also recover it's ICO price and there is a chance it will increase as well.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Emileetran on June 13, 2018, 04:04:07 PM
The commendable work being done by all the members, I am happy that I am part of this project. Crypto is the beautiful initiative in the world.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Cryptochel on June 22, 2018, 09:44:47 AM
Looking at the Whitepaper, it seems that Pangea Jurisdiction is a big project. There must be a great team with a strong experience and background. The founder of Bitnation is Susanne Tarkowski Tempelho. As the founder, she holds the position of the CEO of Bitnation. Before she found Bitnation, she worked in many frontiers in cultural, governance, and politics field as a contractor. Since 2011 she has been a crypto enthusiast.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Maslate on June 26, 2018, 10:22:03 AM
Looking at the Whitepaper, it seems that Pangea Jurisdiction is a big project. There must be a great team with a strong experience and background. The founder of Bitnation is Susanne Tarkowski Tempelho. As the founder, she holds the position of the CEO of Bitnation. Before she found Bitnation, she worked in many frontiers in cultural, governance, and politics field as a contractor. Since 2011 she has been a crypto enthusiast.
Therefore it's a really good time to accumulate now.
It has dump so much because of the bitcoin's dump and the volume is low because until now we are not yet listed in coinmarketcap.
People who dump will regret when it will start to accumulate volume and the price will be trading at the ICO rate.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Cryptochel on June 30, 2018, 12:29:14 PM
With the addition of XPAT compatibility to the Pangea app, the Bitnation team and its ambassador network will be able to expedite the adoption of Pangea in communities worldwide.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: hueannhien91 on June 30, 2018, 01:00:28 PM
The project is quite good but it seems to be underestimated, I hope BITNATION can have more information so that investors can know more about the project.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: DrearyUrbanite on July 03, 2018, 10:52:18 PM
The project is quite good but it seems to be underestimated, I hope BITNATION can have more information so that investors can know more about the project.

It's possible that even the younger generation isn't ready to use Bitnation. They are fostering fundamental change and people need time to understand these things and feel comfortable using it.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: minhdang2212 on July 07, 2018, 05:40:53 AM
XPAT is now listed on LAtoken. New trading pairs increases market reach and liquidity for XPAT. XPAT has not been on the coinmarketcap. Is the transaction volume of XPAT still not enough to reach the coinmarketcap?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Ziskinberg on July 07, 2018, 09:57:25 AM
XPAT is now listed on LAtoken. New trading pairs increases market reach and liquidity for XPAT. XPAT has not been on the coinmarketcap. Is the transaction volume of XPAT still not enough to reach the coinmarketcap?
This is a good news, I hope with the addition of the new trading site this will help to increase the volume and we will see it in the coinmarketcap.
Right now, the market is still very bearish, we cannot expect a pump until there is a big news that will come.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: minhdang2212 on July 07, 2018, 03:01:21 PM
I am keeping an XPAT and the current price is too low. I'm still waiting for the XPAT to trade a large and highly liquid new decision to continue to hold XPAT.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: kurniawan05 on July 07, 2018, 04:44:03 PM
I am keeping an XPAT and the current price is too low. I'm still waiting for the XPAT to trade a large and highly liquid new decision to continue to hold XPAT.

I m still keeping my XPAT token too, i hope there is big news to pump the price and they list the token to the TOP 10 exchanges.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: minhdang2212 on July 08, 2018, 12:08:03 PM
I think the idea of this project will be a breakthrough for the future in the cryptocurrency system. I believe the XPAT will pump up a larger exchange.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: DrearyUrbanite on July 09, 2018, 05:08:30 PM
XPAT is now listed on LAtoken. New trading pairs increases market reach and liquidity for XPAT. XPAT has not been on the coinmarketcap. Is the transaction volume of XPAT still not enough to reach the coinmarketcap?

First time I hear about the exchange LAtoken. Is it a good place for trading or only few people there?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: cappy176 on July 11, 2018, 05:59:44 PM
Hey where do you store the xpat token if you buy it on LAtoken? I don't see a wallet download on the site?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: ryap12 on July 12, 2018, 01:03:29 PM
I am keeping an XPAT and the current price is too low. I'm still waiting for the XPAT to trade a large and highly liquid new decision to continue to hold XPAT.

Same here. I am really hoping for the right moment. Current price offer right now is very low and unsatifactory.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Cryptochel on July 13, 2018, 02:19:06 PM
As more governance services are added to Bitnation’s ecosystem and more people learn how to implement them into their lives and communities, we will begin to witness and experience the incredible utility of a framework that facilitates voluntary co-creation and self-governance.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: hasna17 on July 13, 2018, 02:50:16 PM
XPAT is now listed on LAtoken. New trading pairs increases market reach and liquidity for XPAT. XPAT has not been on the coinmarketcap. Is the transaction volume of XPAT still not enough to reach the coinmarketcap?

First time I hear about the exchange LAtoken. Is it a good place for trading or only few people there?
Hi friend, I think LAtoken is an inappropriate location for current trading and maybe because LAtoken is not well known by traders too The current XPAT price is too low, the XPAT transaction volume is still not enough to reach the coin market?
maybe if you are a merchant who wants to earn more profit, you can
looking for information at https://coinmarketcap.com


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: DrearyUrbanite on July 19, 2018, 04:10:45 PM
XPAT is now listed on LAtoken. New trading pairs increases market reach and liquidity for XPAT. XPAT has not been on the coinmarketcap. Is the transaction volume of XPAT still not enough to reach the coinmarketcap?

First time I hear about the exchange LAtoken. Is it a good place for trading or only few people there?
Hi friend, I think LAtoken is an inappropriate location for current trading and maybe because LAtoken is not well known by traders too The current XPAT price is too low, the XPAT transaction volume is still not enough to reach the coin market?
maybe if you are a merchant who wants to earn more profit, you can
looking for information at https://coinmarketcap.com

The low volume is a general problem of XPAT right now I think and not because of the exchange.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Maslate on August 03, 2018, 03:26:56 PM
XPAT is now listed on LAtoken. New trading pairs increases market reach and liquidity for XPAT. XPAT has not been on the coinmarketcap. Is the transaction volume of XPAT still not enough to reach the coinmarketcap?

First time I hear about the exchange LAtoken. Is it a good place for trading or only few people there?
Hi friend, I think LAtoken is an inappropriate location for current trading and maybe because LAtoken is not well known by traders too The current XPAT price is too low, the XPAT transaction volume is still not enough to reach the coin market?
maybe if you are a merchant who wants to earn more profit, you can
looking for information at https://coinmarketcap.com

The low volume is a general problem of XPAT right now I think and not because of the exchange.
True, it's listed in a good exchange already but it cannot manage to increase it's daily volume that is why until now its not yet listed in coinmarketcap.
We know that getting listed in coinrmarketcap could help in order to attract potential investors, but it seems like the development is very slow.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: WhereIsMyBTGNegga?? on August 03, 2018, 11:41:02 PM
Bought 343k XPAT about 5 months ago for 5 ETH and now it cost ~100$  ;D -x30+ profit, like a boss 8)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Kaznachej123 on August 08, 2018, 11:23:53 PM
Hi All! Exciting News Trading community continues to expand with listings on Bancor, LAToken, Tokenjar, Forkdelta, Coingecko and now CoinMarketCap
Despite the tough market conditions for the crypto community, Bitnation has taken a number of steps forward in demonstrating our continued progress in developing our app and establishing its token economy.
XPAT's recent listings on multiple exchanges means investors, app users and traders now have a variety of options for getting XPAT - leading to today's listing on CoinMarketCap.  https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitnation
                                                https://s8.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2018/08/0f8063ece2bd816ba6245ce9abfe7455.jpg (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitnation)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: gefander on August 09, 2018, 12:56:54 AM
Bitnation team Do not fulfill their promises that they give to bounty hunters, in addition they rude. Don't believe them they are rude scammers.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: filisia on August 09, 2018, 01:41:43 AM
Bitnation team Do not fulfill their promises that they give to bounty hunters, in addition they rude. Don't believe them they are rude scammers.
why can you talk that this project team is a scammer, what happened in this project team, hopefully in the future there will be clarity about this.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Maslate on August 09, 2018, 01:49:26 AM
Bitnation team Do not fulfill their promises that they give to bounty hunters, in addition they rude. Don't believe them they are rude scammers.
why can you talk that this project team is a scammer, what happened in this project team, hopefully in the future there will be clarity about this.
He is just complaining about the bounty, I don't know if there are still current bounty but I know bounties were already release a long time ago.
Correct me if I am wrong, if those bounty hunters would keep their tokens, we could have seen a good price now.
Anyway, even if the price is low, if you hold long term, there is still a chance to sell at a profit.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: gefander on August 09, 2018, 07:24:42 AM
Bitnation team Do not fulfill their promises that they give to bounty hunters, in addition they rude. Don't believe them they are rude scammers.
why can you talk that this project team is a scammer, what happened in this project team, hopefully in the future there will be clarity about this.
He is just complaining about the bounty, I don't know if there are still current bounty but I know bounties were already release a long time ago.
Correct me if I am wrong, if those bounty hunters would keep their tokens, we could have seen a good price now.
Anyway, even if the price is low, if you hold long term, there is still a chance to sell at a profit.
They want to launch a new program to raise funds. Despite the fact that they have treated rudely with those who really helped them in this. There is a theme here, there all their fault is proved, screenshots are attached. I don't need justice, I'm just warning potential investors and bounty hunters who they might be dealing with. These are rude scammers, only one motivation I have to write about it! Let people know that they are rude and scammers.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4475111.0


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: wack slacker on August 09, 2018, 03:05:17 PM
A good project but not good for investors until now. At this point I can not say the cool of the investors who joined the ICO. I hope all good things will come soon and I can get back my invested money.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Coka2209 on August 10, 2018, 08:03:16 AM
The Bitnation's objective for the second year ahead is 1 million users in their key markets (frontier and emerging markets with high Bitcoin adoption, including but not limited to Turkey, Philippines, Mexico, Argentina, Ghana, Nigeria, Kenya, etc).


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Cryptochel on August 18, 2018, 10:27:32 AM
Love the concept. At present government departments, regardless of country are incredibly in-efficient and unreliable.  8)I really believe Blockchain can solve a lot of government-related problems.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: usercryptomany on August 18, 2018, 10:46:21 AM
I am keeping an XPAT and the current price is too low. I'm still waiting for the XPAT to trade a large and highly liquid new decision to continue to hold XPAT.

I m still keeping my XPAT token too, i hope there is big news to pump the price and they list the token to the TOP 10 exchanges.
I think we need time, soon the cryptocurrency market expects growth and with it all the coins will go up . We need to look to the future with a positive attitude . The price is sure to be high!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Maslate on August 24, 2018, 11:14:40 AM
I am keeping an XPAT and the current price is too low. I'm still waiting for the XPAT to trade a large and highly liquid new decision to continue to hold XPAT.

I m still keeping my XPAT token too, i hope there is big news to pump the price and they list the token to the TOP 10 exchanges.
I think we need time, soon the cryptocurrency market expects growth and with it all the coins will go up . We need to look to the future with a positive attitude . The price is sure to be high!
It's gonna happen especially if they'll deliver and investors will see the potential of the project.
The time now, it's really hard for investors because of the market down trend, they will also invest in stronger coins to avoid big losses.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: wenwen on August 31, 2018, 06:05:39 AM
Good afternoon. Yes, I buy coins on LATOKEN. I, too, could not find a purse, but then I was added to the official chat of telegrams, there they helped me. I wish everyone good luck.

Hey where do you store the xpat token if you buy it on LAtoken? I don't see a wallet download on the site?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Maslate on September 06, 2018, 03:47:08 AM
Good afternoon. Yes, I buy coins on LATOKEN. I, too, could not find a purse, but then I was added to the official chat of telegrams, there they helped me. I wish everyone good luck.

Hey where do you store the xpat token if you buy it on LAtoken? I don't see a wallet download on the site?
Good timing, it's very cheap at the moment and LATOKEN is a good exchange, too bad bitcoin dump so hard we were not able to
see some recovery, but we must be here for long term.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Jorandck on September 06, 2018, 04:03:56 AM
I am keeping an XPAT and the current price is too low. I'm still waiting for the XPAT to trade a large and highly liquid new decision to continue to hold XPAT.

I m still keeping my XPAT token too, i hope there is big news to pump the price and they list the token to the TOP 10 exchanges.
I think we need time, soon the cryptocurrency market expects growth and with it all the coins will go up . We need to look to the future with a positive attitude . The price is sure to be high!

This platform team must understand the current market conditions. all tokens are impaired and include XPAT tokens. I hope we are patient, hopefully the exchange is beautiful in time.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Tatsiana07 on October 04, 2018, 08:08:13 PM
Hey. Were there payments tokens for bounty?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: egetrorx on October 08, 2018, 03:58:00 AM
BITNATION and the Crypto Winter
https://steemit.com/bitnation/@bitnation/bitnation-and-the-crypto-winter


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: puffer on October 29, 2018, 04:44:20 PM
https://twitter.com/DeutscheBank/status/1056062940623896576


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: TronREX on March 13, 2019, 12:38:32 AM
This has been the worst investment of my portfolio ever. I'm very mad I invested in this. I could of invested in peanuts and made more profit than this. I have yet to see 1 ethtoshi in profit from this. What's most sad is that people are still holding this crap.

Susan just give up, you waisted you husbands money with this dumb venture. You're a joke.  >:(


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: egetrorx on March 14, 2019, 12:16:29 PM
According to its founder Susanne Tarkowski Tempelhof, the need for a platform such as Bitnation surfaced due to the incapability of nations in facing the global challenges on their own.
https://icoshrimp.com/bitnation-worlds-first-decentralized-borderless-voluntary-nation/


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: ed20 on March 20, 2019, 05:27:26 AM
Hello,

what is now the difference between PAT and XPAT?

Under the follow ETH Address - "Read Contracts" is under Symbol still PAT:

https://etherscan.io/token/0xBB1fA4FdEB3459733bF67EbC6f893003fA976a82 (https://etherscan.io/token/0xBB1fA4FdEB3459733bF67EbC6f893003fA976a82)

Where I can find the right ETH Address for XPAT?

That makes me and other people very confusing.

If someone can write here a describtion or a link where I can get more information?

Thanks and best regards!


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: Danillo17 on April 09, 2019, 02:52:45 PM
Hello,

what is now the difference between PAT and XPAT?

Under the follow ETH Address - "Read Contracts" is under Symbol still PAT:

https://etherscan.io/token/0xBB1fA4FdEB3459733bF67EbC6f893003fA976a82 (https://etherscan.io/token/0xBB1fA4FdEB3459733bF67EbC6f893003fA976a82)

Where I can find the right ETH Address for XPAT?

That makes me and other people very confusing.

If someone can write here a describtion or a link where I can get more information?

Thanks and best regards!


This is the correct XPAT.

at the time they had to do it because PAT- Patron already existed.

So the move to XPAT


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: adamantasaurus on April 24, 2019, 02:10:22 AM
so what do yall think of this project right now? Any new developments I really really like the idea just don't know if it is going to come to fruition. If there is even a chance Im willing to throw some of my financial energy into it :)


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: adamantasaurus on April 24, 2019, 02:16:18 AM
also, I have PAT tokens how do I exchange for xpat tokens?


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: serveforever on August 29, 2019, 01:12:57 AM
so what do yall think of this project right now? Any new developments I really really like the idea just don't know if it is going to come to fruition. If there is even a chance Im willing to throw some of my financial energy into it :)

I think that they set their goals too low actually and have now sort of boxed themselves into a corner. Their stated goals are to do very minor things that are more in the nature of a humanitarian non-profit than a company that is going to make a lot of money. Feels like more of a vanity project or a rich person than anything serious at this point.


Title: Re: [ANN][PRESALE] BITNATION
Post by: scolary23 on August 29, 2019, 01:01:50 PM
so what do yall think of this project right now? Any new developments I really really like the idea just don't know if it is going to come to fruition. If there is even a chance Im willing to throw some of my financial energy into it :)

I think that they set their goals too low actually and have now sort of boxed themselves into a corner. Their stated goals are to do very minor things that are more in the nature of a humanitarian non-profit than a company that is going to make a lot of money. Feels like more of a vanity project or a rich person than anything serious at this point.
I agree the project is like a non-commercial organization. Which does not set a goal to receive any. Although there are plans for the future. But at this stage, of course, you should not count on profits in this area.