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Today I saw Coinmarketcap to advert a ponzi scheme site, promising 12% daily interest : https://laser.online/

Does such stuff make you loose faith and trust in sites who are advertising it?

https://i.imgur.com/JWykhnC.png

Coinmrket i think is just a regular site and May be it was paid by that company to advertise or promote its own site. Seeing it is acquiring many views, its good opportunity to advertise site links. Because I have seen many sites in coinmarket cap and annoying as they be, that is how a site is earning.

Oh I saw it, it's unfortunate. but I believe that they are only renting their space and are not encouraging anyone to invest in this site ponzi, said that people are resposible by themselves, people should do research before investing in anything.

from what I've seen a few days, this ponzi site has become very popular and they must be investing a lot of money in advertising, I hope someone will report them to the authorities

I understand them so well! It's hard to make money from publishing on the web, so most editors accept anything. It's also possible they're not aware of that advertiser. I don't blame them.

Oh, that doesn't looks good. Sometimes when people saw advertisement on trusted website, it makes advertised site legit for them.
As I understand, this banner is not from advertising network? It's rented directly by Coinmarketcap? If yes, that's really bad. If this banner would be from ad network, I wouldn't blame Coinmarketcap, because they aren't in control of advertised websites.

We know that coinmarketcap has giving has a real time updates about the market and we really can't blame them to advertise a ponzi / scam site to their page. They are not encouraging people to invest their but they are only for the payment of advertising.

Because of their service they are well known place for a good advertisement and views for any company that wish to advertise to them but they should have a policy that they won't be supporting any scam nor advertising.

That banner says,
As if they are not a fake investment scheme. This is a desperate move for that ponzi, 12% profit daily isn't realistic.

Anyway I didn't noticed this as I'm focused all the time with the content not with those ads, thanks for noticing it then.

Every time i check coinmarketcap i always seen cloud mining site or ponzi site.. But since coinmarketcap is a free tool i think they are just adding this advertisement for maintaining their website.. Well its not a problem you can ignore it if you see ponzi site that actually are scam..
For me its not annoying not the same as pop up ads that will really annoying .
 Mostly i seen here are cloud mining like genesis mining and ICO's advertise randomly..
Just notice referrals links they use for every banners.. 

I think they just accepted that advertisement to be put in their website. Everyone has to make money in someway, And I see that when you click advertising link:


But I haven't seen any policy about advertising scam ICO or projects.

So if anyone can afford to pay that amount they are definitely going to advertisement it on their website. I don't know who run coinmarketcap though, if it still own by CoinTelegraph. They also have a thread here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199685.0

It is what it is mate. This is what's keep the site still alive and giving valuable informations we need for statistical analysis on cryptocurrencies. Maybe this give them good profits. But this is bad because they are promoting ponzi sites. Im not sure it's a ponzi. But 12% seems suspicious to me. Anyway, it's fine to me since im aware about ponzi schemes lurking all over the internet. And wee have nothing to do about that since it's their site. Actually even on some legit sites we see some ponzi advertisements on them. So invest at your own risks. Me, i just ignore them. Quite annoying but what can we do about that?

Yep, saw it, then acted -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1681719.msg23259733#msg23259733

For us who are familiar with Crypto-Currency world it's not a problem as we can detect a Ponzi scheme easily, but for beginners it can be considered a legit site, especially being advertised by a popular Crypto site that is Coinmarketcap... That is a trap for newbies and I think Coinmarketcap loses reputation by accepting this kind of banner on their site.

When I click on the banner I can see really fast the referral link: "Noah12". So they are not only promoting the site, but referring people to earn comission over the investors.

No it doesn't , I'll still use it for cryptocurrency list and info needs. Coinmarketcap also list possible scam and shitcoins so that's not a new thing and I think, it doesn't mean that they truly endorsed such site by putting the ads.
They only want to have monetization , the same with bitcointalk (check ads disclaimer on every first post).
Also, you'll see on their site's faq "We're not here to judge the merits of any cryptocurrency, but we provide the best tools for you to make your own conclusions."

Couldn't find any advertising terms for coinmarketcap but I think it is quite mandatory because coinmarketcap is visited by many crypto lovers and newbie investors who will easily get scammed by ponzis like this.

Looks like that ponzi have paid more than $10,000 for that top banner or even more and coinmarketcap is busy on counting those money rather than filtering what they are advertising.

Agreed. They really should put that terms/disclaimer somehow to decrease the liabilities on the effects of the advertised site unto their visitors (atleast giving notice to them will lessen the risk getting scammed). I guess that's the only cent I could also suggest to them to clean this up. I understand that coinmarketcap also needs its maintenance for running their crypto service.

P.S. I don't support ponzi

none of them care really, they just want the money and they want more traffic to get that money.
a simple ad, which is advertising a service elsewhere is nothing! coinmarketcap used to list all kinds of scam coins that were too obvious. after so many complaints they removed some and do a little more screening now.

besides, scam advertisements are not new in this world. all the so called news sites are doing it. you just have to pay the price of it!

It is not wrong to advertise anything into a site as long as money matters at least for a site owner.
People creates sites to make money, right? Maybe coinmarketcap received the best offer from laser.online and placed their ad.

It will be wrong if a mature person falls into the trap of ponzi.
Those who are mature enough to make investments online then they should also know the definition of DANGER.
And they should always think of their own safety, I mean, their own money safety.

Ponzi sites are still in market, it is due to some people still support this.
Imagine if no one support this shit, what will happen to ponzi sector? Simple, it will be vanished!

We, bitcointalk community are always fighting against ponzi. But still we need more time to win this war.

Like others said the site has no direct connection with the mentioned site its just doing what its paid for although, I agree they should check who they are advertising before putting it up many innocent users with low knowledge about these type of scams fall for it but in the end that's how they are making money to keep the site going cannot blame them either.

Well its pretty disappointing but then the site is making money from it so those people who visit the site should know better and do their own research. For the newbies to crypto world, it might be pretty enticing but to those who are experienced enough will know that those kind of sites are scam or even the newbies will know also at first glance but would still try in the hopes that it would be paying and given that it is advertise by a reputable site makes it more attractive.

Maybe that's why they didn't put any disclaimer in the first place. They are already cleaning their hands before any claims against them could be made. And $10K is a lot of money. Maybe that ponzi scheme really have lot of money to begin with, money they collected from all the ponzi scheme's they run throughout the internet. Again its premium pay, coinmarketcap would just accepts it as long as you can pay them right? Just sad though when you see newbie threads popping and claiming they have been scammed, maybe they got it from coinmarketcap, or maybe not.  ???

i think you will see HIYPE and ponzi shemes on all crypto related websites XD
i see these banners on all coin pages. But everyone knows that 12% daily is to much even 1% cant be true XD
iam using adblock on coinmarketcap since they have also slide banners -.-


kind regards

You are right this is what happens normally i have seen many adverts in past which are running a ponzi scheme or are a pure scam but coinmarket doesn't care you need to have minimum budget of $500 to advertise on their site if you pay that they will advertise mostly anything. They don't permit adult sites but any crypto related site is permitted.

That is generally on crypto websites which can be seen on faucets and news sites. The newbies are confronted with these promising investment programs and in the end, they are victims themselves.
Coinmarketcap and many others remain neutral concerning this type of advertising because this kind is the most profitable next to ICOs apart from Bitcoin Casino and Faucet advertising.

CMC only deals with crypto currency. However google can send tjem all sort of ads! That is not directly under their control!

They just advertise the site which pays them the maximum and wash their hands of it. As long as the site is legal, I don't think they really care. In the end, the people visiting the website have to be careful about which sites they trust.

EHRMERGHERD!!!!!! Laser Online! Dude. Have you listened to the music on their website??? It just totally MAKES me want to invest All Mah Bitcoin Right Now!!! I mean guys. You gotta listen to this music. It is so inspiring, I just love it!!!

The music, man. That makes it so legit! And all the red, white, and blue..... 'Merica!!!!

Sometimes I just open their site so I can listen to da music. Its like so motivating, that I am gonna make a TON o cash!!

And they have a JET!!! Rocketing off to the MOON! 'Merica loves LASERS!!!!

When google could advertise sites such as myether(ponzi one, not the legit one) why can't coinmarketcap .
I don't say that the sites are wantedly promoting those scam sites but they themselves do not know of the fact.
They are just renting their advertising space and are unknown to the fact that they are scam sites.
Google always removes the advertisements which are scam when people report it to them.

Well it is definitely a worry that they are willing to advertising the kind of stuff on their site, but i'm pretty sure at the same time that they've got a little disclaimer down the bottom of these ads that basically says they've got nothing to do with the advertised site.

Here's the thing, they obviously need money in order to keep updating the site with new coins and maintaining it. They're doing it through advertising atm. I'm not sure this is the best way to do it, though.

With being the top website for tracking cryptos, with a good number of newbies visiting daily, accepting shady ads isn't professional. But since CMC is dependent on ad-revenue and with an approximate minum budget of $10000 for an advertising campaign, do really have to think twice about approving shady ads? No.

On listing pre-mined/scam coins.


Guess the same logic applies for they accepting Ponzi ads, we're not here to judge the merits of any ads, but for the users to conclude whether the ad is legit or scam.

https://coinmarketcap.com/faq/

Yes it does but it is not a new thing . Even google used to promote paisalive which is nothing but a piece of crap . They promise to pay  almost 2 usd for reading email . But its totally a BS .

You're right, and it's not even a question, most sites that have high impressions and high visitors each day will advertise anything as long the company/website/service pay them enough for the banner. Too many sites did that...

Very likely coinmarketcap use banners taken from a third party platform, like an ad marketplace. Thus they don't even know which ads are displayed on their own website. This is vvery common among webmasters since such platforms are intermediaries which connect ad offer and of demand.

Bro this is common in any kind sites, so it is not bad only for bitcoin related site. Actually this kind of advertisement is normal is entertainment related site like Youtube, Movies download sites.
If they advertise that means they wanna get the profit and henceforth the added to their. Kindly ignore and go for the useful discussion buddy.

As someone who has a few years in the media as a journalist, I have come to realize that most media houses survive and are able to take care if running costs through patronage (money from advertisers who could be moneybags or unscrupulous politicians) I know and understand that. But there's always some reputable media houses that stay away from that. That is what CMC should be doing. It should stay away and not let go of its reputation because of some cash in the offing. It shouldn't be allowing fraudulent schemes advertise on its site. Doing that will make it lose face.

His been alerted the way he see the advertisement on platform and it is known site and newbie people who will see the ads posted at coinmarketcap will think that ads posted is legit eventhough it is been tag by the experience people as ponzi, And coinmarketcap should really keep out those ponzi site advertisement on there site so that people will not confused and get scam by those ponzi advertisements.

We can even see this almost everywhere and even facebook are advertising such ponzi sites. They can't regulate it, they are for the advertising that will cost their operation. There are even paid articles that has been done even not knowing what's the real precautions of a certain project or ICO.

@Coolwave, LOL! I was a victim before of those ads and I keep on following them until I realized that there's no real "reading email" job that promises good salary.

That kind of knowledge should changed bro that is why I have explained how to take the ads advertised in the coinmarketcap. Coinmarketcap is the legit site but the ads all displayed in the bitcoin related site you no need to bother those kind of ads are not relevant to legit way.
Check the members in the forum, you will get the better explanation from them.

Boy, are you guys in for a shocker. Brace yourselves, for I'm about to drop a bombshell thanks to my in-depth research that took mega hours to conduct all on my own dime (as always, no tips solicited) ...

Scroll to the very bottom of CMC's page to find the following on the far left side:


Ignore the banner ad which was generated via Google Adsense, in my case, thanks to visiting the site and NOT via a search, alluding to that Google Chrome tracks more than you think.

Notice the "Advertise" link which I boxed in red. Following the the link, you arrive here ...

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSesk19wQostGxR3VTSXcsyvzIAK9bcsITyKLjsAR-bJjYB33Q/viewform


So that you busy guys don't have to, I filled out the form requesting info, using the minimal amount for a banner ad. I'll keep you abreast (the left one, for I favor the right breast).

Bruno

PS: Speaking of tracking, while checking my email I noticed a reply from Godaddy requesting to complete my order for some domains I researched (availability/pricing) while ... wait for it ... not being logged into their site. I wonder how the fuck they're able to pull that shit off.

Is this really a big deal for you on what websites are advertising. I mean I would maybe understand if a website would have a long term ad running or something that would suggest that they are supporting it or at least very aware of it, but for some short term ads that the stuff might not be able to track, I don't see a big problem. After all, The Pirate Bay has some pretty bad ads, but no one really cares.

Good point! Question: When will we start seeing ads for child porn? Or how about sales of illegal guns? Or maybe contract killing sites? By your reasoning, all mentioned are fair game. Besides, a wise man once said, "no one really cares."

I see a lot of people acting like it is objectively bad to say certain things, like we should all just gasp at any possibility of child pornography or whatever is taboo. I actually don't care. You can make child pornography legal, all I care, as long as no one gets physically hurt, it isn't a crime in my book.

The rest of things you mentioned are done by governments all the time, especially USA, so again, I am not that worried by ads for illegal stuff. It is just data to me, I don't care.

You are honestly pretty fucking sick in your mind if that's really how you reason things. Seriously? You think childs make the porn themselves?


Piratebay is even worse indeed, but hey, that's the piratebay.

CMC uses both adsense and Cointraffic.io, and i know that cointraffic.io used to allow ponzis aswell.

Also, laser.online, for anyone concerned, is a completely scam in my book. Not only do they buy advertising, i have a feeling they buy traffic aswell, to increase SEO, and look at their twitter audit,

https://www.twitteraudit.com/LaserOnlineLLC - 16% real.

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/laser.online -
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@orangeogre/riding-the-scam-again-laser-online

-/- Advanced laser systems, my ass..

We are kinda going of the subject here so I wouldn't want to continue. But the actual creation of child pornography is a pretty hard subject to regulate, even when it is done by consent. But the actual people who watch it, sure, I don't care, doesn't hurt no one to watch.

Coinmarketcap is a free service that is making its cash most especially from those ads you are looking at. It is left to you to know what to click and what not to click.

Moreover, most of these sites make use of a service like googleads and co which usually push any ad to the page and there is nothing you or coinmarketcap can do about it as long as they need funds to keep being operational. If you don't like seeing them, just get an adblock.

This is way too much. People like @aleksej996 need a treatment. Just try to spend you time on something more useful without looking like a total d*ck.

I'm locking now this topics as it's getting out of context.