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Title: Very worried 1,6 btc still not confirmed. it's been 8 hours not 1 confirmation.
Post by: mr.mister on October 21, 2017, 12:11:25 AM


Hi

Does anyone see anything obviously wrong with this transaction: Address sent to: 1EUSB5W2uPT9F3yDbqoLaC5GaX8VZiG93S


https://blockchain.info/address/1EUSB5W2uPT9F3yDbqoLaC5GaX8VZiG93S


Please help if you can.



Title: Re: Very worried 1,6 btc still not confirmed. it's been 8 hours not 1 confirmation.
Post by: jimskiy on October 21, 2017, 12:13:07 AM
Just wait for it dude.. Sometimes it takes up to 20 days to be confirmed.. Imho, low fee got long time to confirmed


Title: Re: Very worried 1,6 btc still not confirmed. it's been 8 hours not 1 confirmation.
Post by: jackg on October 21, 2017, 12:15:24 AM
There are transactions before it that aren't confirmed, there is probably a transaction holding all these up.

The one I found was this: https://blockchain.info/tx/83ca55d9d64e5ae54431e3d7dbbbef5da49f53e78a89756ed137633c839c77f9
There's probably more further back, I'll continue...

Edit it's just 2 transactions:
83ca55d9d64e5ae54431e3d7dbbbef5da49f53e78a89756ed137633c839c77f9
5346e56c964bea3f5ea4f723ac84cd43c35090ab8ce044c6efd680ccc6ef9b61


Title: Re: Very worried 1,6 btc still not confirmed. it's been 8 hours not 1 confirmation.
Post by: HCP on October 21, 2017, 12:45:48 AM
There are two things that are preventing your transaction from confirming...

1. As stated above, your transaction is spending from an unconfirmed parent transaction. Until that transaction confirms, your transaction will NEVER confirm.

2. "Fee per byte 32 sat/B" ::) I'm sure I don't need to say any more regarding this aspect of the transaction ;)


For what it's worth... I nudged the unconfirmed parent along by submitting to a transaction accelerator. Hopefully it'll confirm shortly... then your transaction actually stands a chance of being confirmed.


Title: Re: Very worried 1,6 btc still not confirmed. it's been 8 hours not 1 confirmation.
Post by: mr.mister on October 21, 2017, 01:15:42 AM
There are transactions before it that aren't confirmed, there is probably a transaction holding all these up.

The one I found was this: https://blockchain.info/tx/83ca55d9d64e5ae54431e3d7dbbbef5da49f53e78a89756ed137633c839c77f9
There's probably more further back, I'll continue...

Edit it's just 2 transactions:
83ca55d9d64e5ae54431e3d7dbbbef5da49f53e78a89756ed137633c839c77f9
5346e56c964bea3f5ea4f723ac84cd43c35090ab8ce044c6efd680ccc6ef9b61


This was bought from a person that may be difficult to track now.

1> How can i prevent this from happening in the future to me?

2> Going forward How can i prevent this from occurring?

3>Is this likely a setup from what you guys see or is it likely to get confirmed??


Title: Re: Very worried 1,6 btc still not confirmed. it's been 8 hours not 1 confirmation.
Post by: jackg on October 21, 2017, 01:26:07 AM
There are transactions before it that aren't confirmed, there is probably a transaction holding all these up.

The one I found was this: https://blockchain.info/tx/83ca55d9d64e5ae54431e3d7dbbbef5da49f53e78a89756ed137633c839c77f9
There's probably more further back, I'll continue...

Edit it's just 2 transactions:
83ca55d9d64e5ae54431e3d7dbbbef5da49f53e78a89756ed137633c839c77f9
5346e56c964bea3f5ea4f723ac84cd43c35090ab8ce044c6efd680ccc6ef9b61


This was bought from a person that may be difficult to track now.

1> How can i prevent this from happening in the future to me?

2> Going forward How can i prevent this from occurring?

3>Is this likely a setup from what you guys see or is it likely to get confirmed??

It looks like it'll conform. Non of the inputs to your transaction seem to have been reused to invalidate your transaction.
You can try to accelerate the transaction on an accelerator like pool.viabtc.com/txaccelerator but  you have to time it so it's between O'Clock and 5 minutes past every hour and you'll have to put both txids in.


Title: Re: Very worried 1,6 btc still not confirmed. it's been 8 hours not 1 confirmation.
Post by: tinywestler on October 21, 2017, 01:41:49 AM


Hi

Does anyone see anything obviously wrong with this transaction: Address sent to: 1EUSB5W2uPT9F3yDbqoLaC5GaX8VZiG93S


https://blockchain.info/address/1EUSB5W2uPT9F3yDbqoLaC5GaX8VZiG93S


Please help if you can.




keep calm brother, it will be okay but it can take time. (20-30 days.)


Title: Re: Very worried 1,6 btc still not confirmed. it's been 8 hours not 1 confirmation.
Post by: HCP on October 21, 2017, 01:42:16 AM
This was bought from a person that may be difficult to track now.

1> How can i prevent this from happening in the future to me?
2> Going forward How can i prevent this from occurring?
3>Is this likely a setup from what you guys see or is it likely to get confirmed??

1&2. The only thing you can do is try and be more careful who you deal with... ensure they use "proper" fees to send transactions or you can offer to subsidise the fees so they can send with a good fee to increase the chances of it getting confirmed quickly.

3. Honestly, I don't think so, they just cheaped out on the fees. Also, the network seems to be quite busy, likely because BTC is hovering around USD$6000... so there are a lot of unconfirmed transactions and fees are creeping up again.


Title: Re: Very worried 1,6 btc still not confirmed. it's been 8 hours not 1 confirmation.
Post by: mr.mister on October 21, 2017, 01:58:10 AM
This was bought from a person that may be difficult to track now.

1> How can i prevent this from happening in the future to me?
2> Going forward How can i prevent this from occurring?
3>Is this likely a setup from what you guys see or is it likely to get confirmed??

1&2. The only thing you can do is try and be more careful who you deal with... ensure they use "proper" fees to send transactions or you can offer to subsidise the fees so they can send with a good fee to increase the chances of it getting confirmed quickly.

3. Honestly, I don't think so, they just cheaped out on the fees. Also, the network seems to be quite busy, likely because BTC is hovering around USD$6000... so there are a lot of unconfirmed transactions and fees are creeping up again.


Going forward:


1> How do I check the blockchain to make sure they used a good fee?

2> How do I check to make sure that this transaction confirming is not contingent on another transaction confirming first?




Title: Re: Very worried 1,6 btc still not confirmed. it's been 8 hours not 1 confirmation.
Post by: DarkStar_ on October 21, 2017, 03:22:56 AM
Going forward:


1> How do I check the blockchain to make sure they used a good fee?

You can view the transaction with your wallet (depending on which one you use) or your favorite block explorer to see the fee paid, and on most explorers, the satoshis per byte fee. You can then check with 21.co's Fee Estimator (http://bitcoinfees.21.co) to see how long they estimate it will take for it to be confirmed.

2> How do I check to make sure that this transaction confirming is not contingent on another transaction confirming first?

Many wallets have an option to not spend unconfirmed inputs (Electrum and Mycelium are the two I know for sure do) and most should have coin control, where you can pick which inputs are being spent. Pick ones that are confirmed.


Title: Re: Very worried 1,6 btc still not confirmed. it's been 8 hours not 1 confirmation.
Post by: HCP on October 21, 2017, 04:01:19 AM
Going forward:
1> How do I check the blockchain to make sure they used a good fee?
2> How do I check to make sure that this transaction confirming is not contingent on another transaction confirming first?

1. Put the transaction number into blockchain.info (or the block explorer of your choice)... look for something like "fee per byte" or "sats/byte" or "fee per kilobyte" or "BTC/kB" etc.

2. On blockchain.info, if you click the "show scripts & coinbase" link, you will see that "unconfirmed" inputs have a little red "U" next to the BTC amount... for "U"nconfirmed:
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/11/15/zWtW5.png

If you see that "U", then the transaction that creates that UTXO is unconfirmed.

The thing with BTC is that you have no real control over what fee other people are using when they send to you... if they use a low fee, it may take a while for the transaction to confirm. :-\ All you can do at that point is to try accelerators or "Child Pays For Parent (https://themerkle.com/what-is-child-pay-for-parent/)" transactions to push them through... or simply do nothing and wait ;)


Title: Re: Very worried 1,6 btc still not confirmed. it's been 8 hours not 1 confirmation.
Post by: warningsigns on October 21, 2017, 04:48:28 AM
When I have incoming transactions with low fees, what I do is forward them to another address with an unusually high fee, sometimes five or more times the recommended fee shown on https://bitcoinfees.21.co

Doing this encourages a miner to confirm it (and the preceding unconfirmed transaction with the very low fee as well).

I don't like waiting for a transaction to confirm for days. It's worrying and nerve racking at a time when bitcoin prices are soaring.

I used to push transactions with Viabuy's accelerator but it's a hit and miss race when the network is congested. The first few seconds of the hour is the small time window to push the transaction.


Title: Re: Very worried 1,6 btc still not confirmed. it's been 8 hours not 1 confirmation.
Post by: jackg on October 21, 2017, 11:58:40 AM
Your transaction is now confirmed. So the topic is now closed.

It's nice to see that a transaction with a fee this size got confirmed so quickly (I normally send transactions with this fee and it does well for me though haven't done it recently).


Title: Re: Very worried 1,6 btc still not confirmed. it's been 8 hours not 1 confirmation.
Post by: mr.mister on October 21, 2017, 12:05:26 PM
Finally confirmed! Thankfully

However, lessons have been learned HERE, and I thank those who have contributed.  I buy and sell bitcoin. It's my job, literally, and often, I buy from and sell to people I don't know. I have basic knowledge of the blockchain, and I have never had any scares until now.

I am going choose sellers more carefully and will set rules for them. If they want to get paid immediately after they send, they will adhere to my rules, otherwise, they will be paid after 1 confirmation.


Title: Re: Very worried 1,6 btc still not confirmed. it's been 8 hours not 1 confirmation.
Post by: jackg on October 21, 2017, 12:13:21 PM
Finally confirmed! Thankfully

However, lessons have been learned HERE, and I thank those who have contributed.  I buy and sell bitcoin. It's my job, literally, and often, I buy from and sell to people I don't know. I have basic knowledge of the blockchain, and I have never had any scares until now.

I am going choose sellers more carefully and will set rules for them. If they want to get paid immediately after they send, they will adhere to my rules, otherwise, they will be paid after 1 confirmation.

I'd make it two confirmations.
Blocks can be orphaned making your one confirmation become zero.
For that I'd say expect at least 2 confirmations or 3 if you can get it.


Title: Re: Very worried 1,6 btc still not confirmed. it's been 8 hours not 1 confirmation.
Post by: multinova on October 22, 2017, 04:44:23 PM
Finally confirmed! Thankfully

However, lessons have been learned HERE, and I thank those who have contributed.  I buy and sell bitcoin. It's my job, literally, and often, I buy from and sell to people I don't know. I have basic knowledge of the blockchain, and I have never had any scares until now.

I am going choose sellers more carefully and will set rules for them. If they want to get paid immediately after they send, they will adhere to my rules, otherwise, they will be paid after 1 confirmation.

I'd make it two confirmations.
Blocks can be orphaned making your one confirmation become zero.
For that I'd say expect at least 2 confirmations or 3 if you can get it.

I'd suggest a minimuum of 3, but that's just my opinion ..


Title: Re: Very worried 1,6 btc still not confirmed. it's been 8 hours not 1 confirmation.
Post by: ktemur on October 23, 2017, 05:36:59 AM
Finally confirmed! Thankfully

However, lessons have been learned HERE, and I thank those who have contributed.  I buy and sell bitcoin. It's my job, literally, and often, I buy from and sell to people I don't know. I have basic knowledge of the blockchain, and I have never had any scares until now.

I am going choose sellers more carefully and will set rules for them. If they want to get paid immediately after they send, they will adhere to my rules, otherwise, they will be paid after 1 confirmation.

I'd make it two confirmations.
Blocks can be orphaned making your one confirmation become zero.
For that I'd say expect at least 2 confirmations or 3 if you can get it.

It is suggested at least 6 confirmations