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Title: Bitcoin Crowdfunding: Bitcoin Education Project
Post by: bitcoinstarter on June 09, 2013, 01:38:58 AM
We are excited to have a new project listed up on BitcoinStarter come check it out and support it!

Bitcoin Education Project:

https://bitcoinstarter.com/projects/92

Bitcoin user Charleshoskinson is behind the project ask him any questions:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=102392

Thanks for reading!
-BitcoinStarter



Title: Re: Bitcoin Crowdfunding: Bitcoin Education Project
Post by: GGGGG on June 09, 2013, 03:09:42 AM
I'm really excited about BEP; Charles has already done a great job with the first dozen or so lectures (https://www.udemy.com/bitcoin-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-crypto/), and his goals for the project are noble indeed. Definitely worth the support of the community here.

You can donate directly to BEP without going through Bitcoinstarter on this page: http://btcedproject.org/?page_id=195


Title: Re: Bitcoin Crowdfunding: Bitcoin Education Project
Post by: knight22 on June 09, 2013, 04:14:29 AM
You can donate directly to BEP without going through Bitcoinstarter on this page: http://btcedproject.org/?page_id=195

Why is there a separeted donation address for chinese poeple ???


Title: Re: Bitcoin Crowdfunding: Bitcoin Education Project
Post by: charleshoskinson on June 09, 2013, 04:29:53 AM
it was at the request of our China director. He wanted to differentiate the donation volume between our two campaigns. We are also posting ads in mandarin chinese.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Crowdfunding: Bitcoin Education Project
Post by: 420 on June 13, 2013, 07:10:46 AM
i think trust is a big issue. how are fundees held accountable, how will we trust bitcoinstarter like kickstarter/indeigogo


Title: Re: Bitcoin Crowdfunding: Bitcoin Education Project
Post by: charleshoskinson on June 13, 2013, 07:14:04 AM
Then donate directly to the project. Our goals are transparent and we have already delivered content to the community for free. You can contact the many fellows or read the hundreds of posts and see both the evolution and passion of this project over the past six weeks.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Crowdfunding: Bitcoin Education Project
Post by: 420 on June 13, 2013, 07:46:00 AM
Then donate directly to the project. Our goals are transparent and we have already delivered content to the community for free. You can contact the many fellows or read the hundreds of posts and see both the evolution and passion of this project over the past six weeks.

I mean there's not repurcusions if the party receives bitcoins and doesn't deliver a project. where'as with paypal/credit cards it can be tracked what party received it and they could be sued etc. if failed to deliver (ran with the money)

just pointing out a general detriment of this site, because I didn't see the 'bitcoinstarter' original thread


Title: Re: Bitcoin Crowdfunding: Bitcoin Education Project
Post by: charleshoskinson on June 13, 2013, 07:51:25 AM
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I mean there's not repurcusions if the party receives bitcoins and doesn't deliver a project. where'as with paypal/credit cards it can be tracked what party received it and they could be sued etc. if failed to deliver (ran with the money)

just pointing out a general detriment of this site, because I didn't see the 'bitcoinstarter' original thread

This is a unique problem in the Bitcoin ecosystem and one I'd love to work with Bitcoinstarter in the future on to resolve. We have an enormous advantage in the movement of money, but a massive disadvantage in accountability and transparency. Thus there needs to be some work to add meta-data and features to certain addresses in order to make kickstarter like projects more fair to all parties.



Title: Re: Bitcoin Crowdfunding: Bitcoin Education Project
Post by: 420 on June 13, 2013, 07:54:03 AM
well this forum has the new trust feature. your starter page should at least link to your profile on here to show your post count/ that you're active on the forums


Title: Re: Bitcoin Crowdfunding: Bitcoin Education Project
Post by: bitcoinstarter on June 18, 2013, 01:54:28 AM
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I mean there's not repurcusions if the party receives bitcoins and doesn't deliver a project. where'as with paypal/credit cards it can be tracked what party received it and they could be sued etc. if failed to deliver (ran with the money)

just pointing out a general detriment of this site, because I didn't see the 'bitcoinstarter' original thread

This is a unique problem in the Bitcoin ecosystem and one I'd love to work with Bitcoinstarter in the future on to resolve. We have an enormous advantage in the movement of money, but a massive disadvantage in accountability and transparency. Thus there needs to be some work to add meta-data and features to certain addresses in order to make kickstarter like projects more fair to all parties.



Sorry for being late to the party here. I couldn't agree more regarding accountability and transparency being an issue not just for projects /our site but all services of the Bitcoin eco-system. At some point there has to be trust or we have to become the escrow between the two parties. I think it is safer then having a direct payment address go right to the party and then they can take off before they get what they need even.  I don't think in the long run it would be wise for us to take off with a project creators Bitcoin purse after its successful as it would do us no good. Then there is the whole , I don't want to leave any coins on the site which is understandable. If people want they could donate at the last minute and not leave any coins on the site. I'm open to suggestions and feedback!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Crowdfunding: Bitcoin Education Project
Post by: 420 on June 18, 2013, 02:53:41 AM
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I mean there's not repurcusions if the party receives bitcoins and doesn't deliver a project. where'as with paypal/credit cards it can be tracked what party received it and they could be sued etc. if failed to deliver (ran with the money)

just pointing out a general detriment of this site, because I didn't see the 'bitcoinstarter' original thread

This is a unique problem in the Bitcoin ecosystem and one I'd love to work with Bitcoinstarter in the future on to resolve. We have an enormous advantage in the movement of money, but a massive disadvantage in accountability and transparency. Thus there needs to be some work to add meta-data and features to certain addresses in order to make kickstarter like projects more fair to all parties.



Sorry for being late to the party here. I couldn't agree more regarding accountability and transparency being an issue not just for projects /our site but all services of the Bitcoin eco-system. At some point there has to be trust or we have to become the escrow between the two parties. I think it is safer then having a direct payment address go right to the party and then they can take off before they get what they need even.  I don't think in the long run it would be wise for us to take off with a project creators Bitcoin purse after its successful as it would do us no good. Then there is the whole , I don't want to leave any coins on the site which is understandable. If people want they could donate at the last minute and not leave any coins on the site. I'm open to suggestions and feedback!

im sure eventually this can be built into the bitcoin system


Title: Re: Bitcoin Crowdfunding: Bitcoin Education Project
Post by: bbit on June 18, 2013, 04:40:51 AM
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I mean there's not repurcusions if the party receives bitcoins and doesn't deliver a project. where'as with paypal/credit cards it can be tracked what party received it and they could be sued etc. if failed to deliver (ran with the money)

just pointing out a general detriment of this site, because I didn't see the 'bitcoinstarter' original thread

This is a unique problem in the Bitcoin ecosystem and one I'd love to work with Bitcoinstarter in the future on to resolve. We have an enormous advantage in the movement of money, but a massive disadvantage in accountability and transparency. Thus there needs to be some work to add meta-data and features to certain addresses in order to make kickstarter like projects more fair to all parties.



Sorry for being late to the party here. I couldn't agree more regarding accountability and transparency being an issue not just for projects /our site but all services of the Bitcoin eco-system. At some point there has to be trust or we have to become the escrow between the two parties. I think it is safer then having a direct payment address go right to the party and then they can take off before they get what they need even.  I don't think in the long run it would be wise for us to take off with a project creators Bitcoin purse after its successful as it would do us no good. Then there is the whole , I don't want to leave any coins on the site which is understandable. If people want they could donate at the last minute and not leave any coins on the site. I'm open to suggestions and feedback!

im sure eventually this can be built into the bitcoin system

Yeah, there should be some way to make it all work.