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Title: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: MoneyTree.social on October 22, 2017, 02:21:17 PM
Ok, I will start by stating that we are a 4 person dev/start up team. And compared to the 20+ people in other start up teams competing for ICO money, we might look, well, small. Not too mention all the fancy big names that are on as advisors for the project. I get it, they want to look like they got it all together and are already successful.
But then I think of all the biggest tech corporations all started by 1 or 2 people in their garage or basement or dorm room. I don’t think one of them started with more than 3 people and they surely didn't have a big group of big name advisors backing them. Most entrepreneurs have to fight their way to the top against all odds and that made them strong enough to go on to be in the 10% whose businesses succeed.
They all started with 1 or 2 people with a dream to make something valuable, and I realize we are in good company. That’s us, just like them starting with a dream and a drive to make that dream happen through problem solving, a can do attitude, and a will to not give up no matter what. Yes our little team is in good company.
https://www.moneytree.social/


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: Str1x on October 22, 2017, 02:24:28 PM
Ok, I will start by stating that we are a 4 person dev/start up team. And compared to the 20+ people in other start up teams competing for ICO money, we might look, well, small. Not too mention all the fancy big names that are on as advisors for the project. I get it, they want to look like they got it all together and are already successful.
But then I think of all the biggest tech corporations all started by 1 or 2 people in their garage or basement or dorm room. I don’t think one of them started with more than 3 people and they surely didn't have a big group of big name advisors backing them. Most entrepreneurs have to fight their way to the top against all odds with people telling them their idea is stupid or crazy or unworkable. Yet they proved them all wrong and that made them strong enough to go on to be in the 10% whose businesses succeed.
They all started with 1 or 2 people with a dream to make something valuable, and I realize we are in good company. That’s us, just like them starting with a dream and a drive to make that dream happen through problem solving, a can do attitude, and a will to not give up no matter what. Yes our little team is in good company.
https://www.moneytree.social/


If your idea is ground breaking everything will come great in the end. It does not matter in the beginning whether you have 4 people or 100 people working if you can't deliver a product in the end in both examples you will fail.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: coincrypto991000 on October 22, 2017, 02:27:16 PM
This is a really good point! Thanks for sharing.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: btcrost on October 22, 2017, 02:31:48 PM
How big the team or how many the members doesn't give a lot of the successful of the project itself, And i told you about gbyte token which already choose the airdrop method to be the way to distribute the token and that project already started just with a person.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: KingScorpio on October 22, 2017, 02:32:00 PM
you have to be consitently on it, big teams will dissolve themselves with internal arguments if there is no leader in it.

currently many headless big teams like ripple are basically just fullfilling orders like a bunch of zeolots, if they would be out of money they wouldt be able to do anything

they are furthermore extremly uneffective. which is also a sight for short term durability.

regards


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: MoneyTree.social on October 22, 2017, 02:44:38 PM
How big the team or how many the members doesn't give a lot of the successful of the project itself, And i told you about gbyte token which already choose the airdrop method to be the way to distribute the token and that project already started just with a person.

Exactly. If you look at all the big corporations, not just tech, most were started by 1 person.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: rayjellanajao on October 22, 2017, 02:48:35 PM
It's not above how many dev's or how large is the team. The success is always depends on their idea, their effort and how are their motivated to success.  Large team is nothing to the small team but with big courage.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: MoneyTree.social on October 22, 2017, 02:56:46 PM
you have to be consitently on it, big teams will dissolve themselves with internal arguments if there is no leader in it.

currently many headless big teams like ripple are basically just fullfilling orders like a bunch of zeolots, if they would be out of money they wouldt be able to do anything

they are furthermore extremly uneffective. which is also a sight for short term durability.

regards

Big clap for your comment. I totally agree. Look at the Tezos fiasco.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: kevoh on October 22, 2017, 02:59:09 PM
The answer to your question is Yes, big teams Dev are successful but the success depends on the individual efforts and synergy between each member.

Also, what the project is about is another big determining factor in the success of the team. The project needs to really provide a solution to a problem, not just copy and do slight modification of existing technologies and still offer zero solution.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: MoneyTree.social on October 22, 2017, 03:18:17 PM
The answer to your question is Yes, big teams Dev are successful but the success depends on the individual efforts and synergy between each member.

Also, what the project is about is another big determining factor in the success of the team. The project needs to really provide a solution to a problem, not just copy and do slight modification of existing technologies and still offer zero solution.

Yes there are some successes but big dev teams goes against the statistics of successful start ups/ companies.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: WISDOMSEEKER on October 22, 2017, 03:35:43 PM
I agree with you. well-known devs actually got their best idea done and don't have enthusiasm a new face has.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: Ortegazu32 on October 22, 2017, 03:46:37 PM
More important than team size is in these days financial background which often makes the difference in making a noise out of the crowd.
Small teams often do not have that.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: MoneyTree.social on October 22, 2017, 03:50:27 PM
More important than team size is in these days financial background which often makes the difference in making a noise out of the crowd.
Small teams often do not have that.

Again, that goes against nearly every successful start up story. Read the start up stories of FB, Twitter, Microsoft, Amazon, Virgin, ect, ect, ect. All were started by 1 or 2 people with a dream and grit to follow it through.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: Antonio.s on October 22, 2017, 04:43:59 PM
What you say is true, can't argue with what you're saying is true, but I think the projects with big dev teams wouldn't want to admit it.   good luck on your project. 8)


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: BogdanGFTP on October 22, 2017, 04:56:44 PM
You have interesting view, I agree with you at all


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: mR.k0fka on October 22, 2017, 05:10:38 PM
well, if you are idea is good you will do a good work, and other developers will join to you later if needed :)
but big development teams are always better, because the coin world changes and they always should keep their product updated and better


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: shekt4 on October 22, 2017, 05:15:36 PM
Success all depends on the activeness of the dev but big teams are most likely to succeed


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: Cryptoclaus on October 22, 2017, 05:35:02 PM
I remember hearing a radio host talking about ICOs and how there are some real jewels in all of these startup companies.    He described how Apple started so small and how amazing it would have been to be given the ability to be a part of it at that time.   That is what is amazing about ICOs, it gives everyone that ability.   


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: rijaljun on October 22, 2017, 08:53:46 PM
Quality and Quantity is defferent,
Quality contributes to the result directly, while quantity are more about time spent, efficiency.

If you ask about which is better, I will say the best is a big team size with high quality.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: MoneyTree.social on October 22, 2017, 08:57:16 PM
I remember hearing a radio host talking about ICOs and how there are some real jewels in all of these startup companies.    He described how Apple started so small and how amazing it would have been to be given the ability to be a part of it at that time.   That is what is amazing about ICOs, it gives everyone that ability.    

 I think if you did a study of all the most successful companies you would find that 90% were started by very small teams. Thanks for sharing.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: cryptomato on October 22, 2017, 08:57:45 PM
I have seen hundreds of projects in last 6 years and I can say that quantity of the team doesn't mean anything. there are teams consists of 5 people and they do better than team of 50 people. So quality is more important than quantity.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: DevSoft on October 22, 2017, 08:58:56 PM
Genereally yes. But it depends on the quality on team. Some teams are really well, good educated or have deep knowladge about. Some are just garbage.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: GUI_Center on October 22, 2017, 09:55:41 PM
Big teams can definitely do well if they are structured and have defined roles outcomes. Not everyone is a developer and there is a need for managers, marketing teams, and other functions. However, sometimes quality is better than quantity. Review teams and roles and make sure you understand the outcomes planned and timelines.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: mx667 on October 22, 2017, 10:24:35 PM
Big teams can definitely do well if they are structured and have defined roles outcomes. Not everyone is a developer and there is a need for managers, marketing teams, and other functions. However, sometimes quality is better than quantity. Review teams and roles and make sure you understand the outcomes planned and timelines.

I think testimonials are even more important than developers. We can know an ICO or online business is legit or not is from the testimony of the people who use it and the investors who make the investment. After all, how can we know they are using such great and trusted developers? Maybe we should do some more research to find out good developers and reliable ICO.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: v3liana on October 22, 2017, 11:17:15 PM
but bigger dev sometimes becomes something that makes us sure to invest in somr ico . that build trust to the ico that their created. so i think it does matter. cause after all ico mean how their manage it and it will be well developed if its maintaned so good.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: GUI_Center on October 22, 2017, 11:24:39 PM
Big teams can definitely do well if they are structured and have defined roles outcomes. Not everyone is a developer and there is a need for managers, marketing teams, and other functions. However, sometimes quality is better than quantity. Review teams and roles and make sure you understand the outcomes planned and timelines.

I think testimonials are even more important than developers. We can know an ICO or online business is legit or not is from the testimony of the people who use it and the investors who make the investment. After all, how can we know they are using such great and trusted developers? Maybe we should do some more research to find out good developers and reliable ICO.

I agree with that. Size, big or small, won't matter if you can't trust the developers. Research needs to be done on all aspects of the team and coin in question.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: Williamsss on October 22, 2017, 11:27:45 PM
I have seen hundreds of projects in last 6 years and I can say that quantity of the team doesn't mean anything. there are teams consists of 5 people and they do better than team of 50 people. So quality is more important than quantity.

Quality over quantity I would say that can be applied in many things in our life and same goes for dev/project teams. I think a project cannot be "quantified" by the number of persons it has working on it, well, obviously more people can perform more tasks but if they are a bad team they will accomplish the same either they have 30 or 3.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: Cryptoclaus on October 23, 2017, 10:15:54 PM
I remember hearing a radio host talking about ICOs and how there are some real jewels in all of these startup companies.    He described how Apple started so small and how amazing it would have been to be given the ability to be a part of it at that time.   That is what is amazing about ICOs, it gives everyone that ability.    

 I think if you did a study of all the most successful companies you would find that 90% were started by very small teams. Thanks for sharing.

I appreciate your projects honesty and openness..   


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: Croin on October 23, 2017, 10:21:48 PM
Honestly who really thinks that this teams are even real?!
Have ever anyone seens a picuture of the whole team holding up in the air something and posing for a photo?
I don't think so, all the ICOs nowadays are SCAM this are some ppl who meet each other online that's it and it's called a "team" wtf...



Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: johan36 on October 24, 2017, 02:52:13 PM
A lot of teams do not guarantee to be good and successful.
It is depends on the team experience, efforts and synergy between team .


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: handy_hotdog on October 24, 2017, 06:27:50 PM
Depends on the project in my eyes.

Also I always think it's quality not quantity when it comes to these sort of things. Of course if you don't have enough developers then that's a worry for people who are potentially investing which might impact the amount you raise.

But after you can always scale if needs be!


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: 2Pac on October 24, 2017, 06:53:00 PM
need to be honest, an investor mostly pays attention to the just number of people in the team, they usually skip to read and research the reality of writings about them. some projects that i have seen have a big but empty team. i think big dev team is not enough for success.
if a project is really good and the team members are smart in related subjects, they can be successful.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: Croin on October 25, 2017, 02:12:07 PM
need to be honest, an investor mostly pays attention to the just number of people in the team, they usually skip to read and research the reality of writings about them. some projects that i have seen have a big but empty team. i think big dev team is not enough for success.
if a project is really good and the team members are smart in related subjects, they can be successful.


I would realllly give money for it to know for what the majority of investors looks for. Because as far as I understand it its mostly not the ppl from bitcointalk who invest into projects anymore but some buiness angles who simply have to much money.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: MoneyTree.social on October 25, 2017, 03:41:54 PM
need to be honest, an investor mostly pays attention to the just number of people in the team, they usually skip to read and research the reality of writings about them. some projects that i have seen have a big but empty team. i think big dev team is not enough for success.
if a project is really good and the team members are smart in related subjects, they can be successful.


I would realllly give money for it to know for what the majority of investors looks for. Because as far as I understand it its mostly not the ppl from bitcointalk who invest into projects anymore but some buiness angles who simply have to much money.

Sounds like a great question to ask the bitcointalk community.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: disconnectme on October 25, 2017, 03:53:17 PM
This is one of the best question pose in this space, I don't think statistically their is difference between small and big team, I think what people focus on is not the size of the team but the quality of people in that team. I will like to do some findings on this, I believe both have the upside and down side.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: babsjoe on October 25, 2017, 03:57:53 PM
Two is surely better than one! If you have more skilled members in diverse area of interest in your ICO, you are likely going to succeed compare to some dev who like to go solo!The energy and wealth of experience is certainly an asset. You should always seek to use it!


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: LeonardoDiCrypto on October 25, 2017, 05:43:09 PM
I remember hearing a radio host talking about ICOs and how there are some real jewels in all of these startup companies.    He described how Apple started so small and how amazing it would have been to be given the ability to be a part of it at that time.   That is what is amazing about ICOs, it gives everyone that ability.    

 I think if you did a study of all the most successful companies you would find that 90% were started by very small teams. Thanks for sharing.

I agree. Too bad people who are intellectually not able to distinguish a good project from a bad one, look at the size of the team so as to understand if it is serious or not.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: Choosewise on October 25, 2017, 10:42:21 PM
Talent involved is a lot more important.


Title: Re: Are Big Dev Teams Successful??
Post by: Croin on October 28, 2017, 09:00:43 AM
need to be honest, an investor mostly pays attention to the just number of people in the team, they usually skip to read and research the reality of writings about them. some projects that i have seen have a big but empty team. i think big dev team is not enough for success.
if a project is really good and the team members are smart in related subjects, they can be successful.


I would realllly give money for it to know for what the majority of investors looks for. Because as far as I understand it its mostly not the ppl from bitcointalk who invest into projects anymore but some buiness angles who simply have to much money.

Sounds like a great question to ask the bitcointalk community.

Yeah would be very interesting maybe someone has a bit more insight into it!