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Title: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on October 24, 2017, 07:13:58 PM
A random newbie opened a thread and locked it : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2311464.0
The content however had my attention,

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Back in 2015, I came across this thread (https://letstalkbitcoin.com/forum/post/need-someone-to-post-on-my-bitcointalk-accounts-for-me) by a user named Invullx asking for someone to post on 14 of their Bitcointalk accounts.

At the time, I was not aware it was against the rules. I was in desperate need of money and while the payment was very low it was better than nothing, so I emailed them and we ended up working together.

Fast forward to now - about 2 months ago I realized that I am wasting my time as I could make my own account and make the same money instead of posting on 14 accounts for someone else. Therefore I started a new account and quit posting for aTriz|Decoded.

In the past months, however, it has come to my attention of just how corrupt they really are. I see them adding their own shill accounts into their signature campaigns, and manipulating other campaign mangers into adding multiple of their accounts while it is against the rules.

Because of my prior working relationship I am not willing to provide info about all of the accounts, only the "main 3":

1. Decoded
2. aTriz
3. dothebeats

These 3 accounts are all the same person. See the similarities in posting style. Wink

When will we get some transparency around here? I think a person such as this who uses proxies to post on 14 accounts should instantly be banned forever from the forum. This is a great opportunity for someone like Lauda to get their staff badge back...

Said profiles : Decoded (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=523317)
                       aTriz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=135920)
                       dothebeats (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=306338)

Now,I don't know how legitimate is the claim or even if it's worth believing the bullshit but I'm just keeping the thread open for the inputs since the original poster locked their thread.I'm not accusing the mentioned profiles for being a part of it as the newbie could be any another butthurt spammer but still something seems interesting about the claim.Let's keep this thread open for your thoughts. :)


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Aventhe on October 24, 2017, 07:36:25 PM
Ok, I am not trying to add myself to this list but we can see the butthurt newbie do the following:

1. aTriz defends darkstar_ and he is accused if what sixcoin is saying.
2. Decoded joins in and immediately out of  nowhere he too is accused.
3. Then I join and immediately I too am accused, even though I haven't even had an account back in 2015.

Seems legit....



Then we go onto the actual accounts - they are rather different. If they were owned by the same person, why would he manage campaigns on aTriz, but not decoded? Might be wrong here, but let me know.

PS: The population of Sydney is ~5.3-5.4 million. Thats not a low number and I can guarantee that there is more than 1 person in Sydney on Bitcointalk at any given time.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTriz on October 24, 2017, 08:32:08 PM
LOL.

I was inactive in 2015.

Issue solved.

Also, if I was decoded, wouldn't I manage bounties/Signature campaigns there? It has trust and should be hitting legendary soon.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Lauda on October 24, 2017, 08:48:24 PM
LOL.

I was inactive in 2015.

Issue solved.

Also, if I was decoded, wouldn't I manage bounties/Signature campaigns there? It has trust and should be hitting legendary soon.
You're all crooks in bed with SMAS, confirmedTM. Ask gorgonzolla, Quickseller. They know./s


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTriz on October 24, 2017, 09:29:47 PM
LOL.

I was inactive in 2015.

Issue solved.

Also, if I was decoded, wouldn't I manage bounties/Signature campaigns there? It has trust and should be hitting legendary soon.
You're all crooks in bed with SMAS, confirmedTM. Ask gorgonzolla, Quickseller. They know./s

https://i.imgur.com/vQ6xDw8.jpg


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on October 24, 2017, 09:35:43 PM
None of those users is untrusted, so this shouldn't matter all that much.  Dothebeats is kind of a shitposter but not a scammer, and neither aTriz nor Decoded are shitposters and definitely not scammers. 

My impression was that that noob posted that accusation because he got rejected from a campaign.  Butthurt noobs do that all the time.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Decoded on October 24, 2017, 10:05:35 PM
I posted because I was arguing with aTriz and then decided to read the threads that he has posted in previously. If you checked, you will see me also posting in TBZ1's thread for shits and giggles.

Ok, I am not trying to add myself to this list but we can see the butthurt newbie do the following:

1. aTriz defends darkstar_ and he is accused if what sixcoin is saying.
2. Decoded joins in and immediately out of  nowhere he too is accused.
3. Then I join and immediately I too am accused, even though I haven't even had an account back in 2015.

Seems legit....



Then we go onto the actual accounts - they are rather different. If they were owned by the same person, why would he manage campaigns on aTriz, but not decoded? Might be wrong here, but let me know.

PS: The population of Sydney is ~5.3-5.4 million. Thats not a low number and I can guarantee that there is more than 1 person in Sydney on Bitcointalk at any given time.

Don't worry, he somehow posted on your account, too probably  ;)

Also, if I was decoded, wouldn't I manage bounties/Signature campaigns there? It has trust and should be hitting legendary soon in a year.

With my luck, ftfy.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: TheUltraElite on October 25, 2017, 10:28:32 AM
In my opinion this newbie is obviously another sockpuppet/shill of a shitposting 3rd world scum who can not even write a decent sentence in proper English, let alone try to do signature/bounty campaigns.

What surprises me is that this piece of shit made a thread and then locked it. He does not want any rebuttal and mocking from other fellow members of the forum. This shows that the person is not willing to provide any other information and/or not willing to discuss their assumptions with others. In case of a legitimate investigation the OP would generally keep the thread open to discussions.

He/she is just provoking other people to think that these managers are not good and their campaigns are not worth joining - quite the type of revenge thing that people who dont have a life and those who cannot move on with things in life, often do.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on October 25, 2017, 12:38:02 PM
None of those users is untrusted, so this shouldn't matter all that much.  Dothebeats is kind of a shitposter but not a scammer, and neither aTriz nor Decoded are shitposters and definitely not scammers. 
It isn't specifically about those users but considering the worst case scenario which is someone paying people to rank up their 100+ accounts is what bothers me.

LOL.

I was inactive in 2015.

Issue solved.

Also, if I was decoded, wouldn't I manage bounties/Signature campaigns there? It has trust and should be hitting legendary soon.
How is the issue resolved ? You being inactive in 2015 doesn't mean anything.I mean there is no enough reasoning in that statement.

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you manage campaigns here on bitcointalk ? So does decoded.Mere coincidence.

Update : Another newbie posted in the same thread (which I believe is the same person)

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Why aren't they tagged yet? I looked into this myself and both accounts are being posted by someone from Sydney, Australia. This is the same location of the person who is trying to find a spammer. Until aTriz|Decoded proves they are two different people, they should get tagged.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: HCP on October 25, 2017, 12:44:57 PM
Sure was nice of the thread owner to unlock the thread long enough for the 1 post newbie (who is in no way related to the OP ::) ::) ::)) to post in there, after they had "looked into" the issue... before immediately re-locking the thread... ::)

I especially like how: "both accounts are being posted by someone from Sydney, Australia" is obviously cause to suspect that both accounts are run by the same person. You couldn't possibly have two people from a city of over 5 MILLION people who are interested in cryptocurrency...

Guess all these localbitcoins accounts from Sydney, AU (https://localbitcoins.com/places/943867929/sydney-nsw-australia/) are probably the same person too! ::)


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTriz on October 25, 2017, 12:53:08 PM
How is the issue resolved ? You being inactive in 2015 doesn't mean anything.I mean there is no enough reasoning in that statement.
How would be he posting on my account if it was inactive from then? Ok...

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you manage campaigns here on bitcointalk ? So does decoded.Mere coincidence.
If you are implying that we may be alts, once again. Why wouldn't I manage campaigns on decoded? Why manage some on my account and some on decoded? Doesn't make sense.

Update : Another newbie posted in the same thread (which I believe is the same person)
I think it's quite obvious he's a butthurt troll.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: audaciousbeing on October 25, 2017, 02:10:53 PM
These allegations to me are quite weigthy and are serious. It must also be noted that ever since Atriz has been managing quite an amount of campaigns here, there have been some allegations here and there.

I wont believe that the person behind the initial thread is a newbie because reading from that, it shows he probably have one thing or the other but the issue around here is simple. The onus is on the accuser to proof that the relationship exists as the similarity and location is not enough to hold forth as this has been defeated by earlier arguments.

If there is a claim that he sent an email, then he should have the correspondence to show it or it does not hold anything and more so, he should better come out with his own account rather than hiding behind a newbie account.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: blackmagician on October 25, 2017, 02:53:48 PM
This is what im saying , be fair dt members.  Youre protecting those bullshits. They are even worst than what i did.
3 accounts same person, and yet your ignoring this doings.wtf!!!


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: blackmagician on October 25, 2017, 02:56:15 PM
How is the issue resolved ? You being inactive in 2015 doesn't mean anything.I mean there is no enough reasoning in that statement.
How would be he posting on my account if it was inactive from then? Ok...

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you manage campaigns here on bitcointalk ? So does decoded.Mere coincidence.
If you are implying that we may be alts, once again. Why wouldn't I manage campaigns on decoded? Why manage some on my account and some on decoded? Doesn't make sense.

Update : Another newbie posted in the same thread (which I believe is the same person)
I think it's quite obvious he's a butthurt troll.
Defend yourself now ,your busted. We must keep this thread active ,so everybody will see how dt members will act.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on October 25, 2017, 03:04:52 PM
How would be he posting on my account if it was inactive from then? Ok...
The point is,the said profiles are being accused of paying people to farm more than 100 accounts. Apparently,there is a single person operating them,it could be anyone.I don't really care if your account was active or inactive because my motivation is to find one that one person who paid for farming up accounts if any.

If you are implying that we may be alts, once again. Why wouldn't I manage campaigns on decoded? Why manage some on my account and some on decoded? Doesn't make sense.
Agree.I'm not accusing you of anything,like I said I just want to see where this leads.

I think it's quite obvious he's a butthurt troll.
He could be but if he makes a valid case,it doesn't matter.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: actmyname on October 25, 2017, 05:02:30 PM
This is what im saying , be fair dt members.  Youre protecting those bullshits. They are even worst than what i did. 3 accounts same person, and yet your ignoring this doings.wtf!!!
You're fucking stupid. There is proof of you having alternate accounts. There is no proof of aTriz having alternate accounts. If you consider hearsay evidence valid, then surely you must believe everything you hear.

He could be but if he makes a valid case,it doesn't matter.
But there was none made.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: HCP on October 25, 2017, 10:15:17 PM
He could be but if he makes a valid case,it doesn't matter.
Still waiting to see any evidence of a "valid" case... The "case" so far consists of a forum thread from 2 years ago... from a completely different forum... where the OP has a completely different username.

The ONLY link between the OP of said thread and aTriz and Decoded is that they are all from Sydney, Australia. A city of 5+ million people.

The butthurt troll "Accuser" contends that he "worked" for these guys, supposedly posting 100 posts per day for 14 different accounts (1400 posts/day!!?!  :o)... for over 2 years. Nevermind that the original thread offer was for 15 weeks. He also contends that they communicated via email and that they paid him... in which case, given his talent for posting, he should be able to provide documentary evidence by way of emails.

Given how long he has had to provide some actual evidence, and just repeatedly spammed the same forum thread link, while locking/unlocking a scam thread, creating a new account, posting in the scam thread with obvious alt account... the logical explanation is that he has no evidence.

And until some "valid" proof is presented... there is no "valid" case and he will remain an obvious butthurt troll


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTrizAKAdecoded on October 26, 2017, 11:37:59 AM
How would be he posting on my account if it was inactive from then? Ok...
The point is,the said profiles are being accused of paying people to farm more than 100 accounts. Apparently,there is a single person operating them,it could be anyone.I don't really care if your account was active or inactive because my motivation is to find one that one person who paid for farming up accounts if any.

If you are implying that we may be alts, once again. Why wouldn't I manage campaigns on decoded? Why manage some on my account and some on decoded? Doesn't make sense.
Agree.I'm not accusing you of anything,like I said I just want to see where this leads.

I think it's quite obvious he's a butthurt troll.
He could be but if he makes a valid case,it doesn't matter.

We emailed on Slack, and now he kicked me out of the group as I did ask for a raise. He also hired 6 other employees from India (I am from Russia).
Now there is 60+ accounts that I did build for him.
Each one spams on 10 accounts 24/7.

I will only mention his main accounts because when those get tagged, his whole scheme will be ruined anyway. His main 2 accounts are: aTriz and Decoded


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Aventhe on October 26, 2017, 11:43:45 AM
How would be he posting on my account if it was inactive from then? Ok...
The point is,the said profiles are being accused of paying people to farm more than 100 accounts. Apparently,there is a single person operating them,it could be anyone.I don't really care if your account was active or inactive because my motivation is to find one that one person who paid for farming up accounts if any.

If you are implying that we may be alts, once again. Why wouldn't I manage campaigns on decoded? Why manage some on my account and some on decoded? Doesn't make sense.
Agree.I'm not accusing you of anything,like I said I just want to see where this leads.

I think it's quite obvious he's a butthurt troll.
He could be but if he makes a valid case,it doesn't matter.

We emailed on Slack, and now he kicked me out of the group as I did ask for a raise. He also hired 6 other employees from India (I am from Russia).
Now there is 60+ accounts that I did build for him.
Each one spams on 10 accounts 24/7.

I will only mention his main accounts because when those get tagged, his whole scheme will be ruined anyway. His main 2 accounts are: aTriz and Decoded

Do you have any proof of communication? You stated that you talked via email. Why change your story to slack now?
Send any proof you have. Payments, emails, account names and whatnot. If that person really has more than 60 accounts, I'm pretty sure he deserves to get all of them tagged.  ;D


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on October 26, 2017, 11:45:41 AM
We emailed on Slack, and now he kicked me out of the group as I did ask for a raise. He also hired 6 other employees from India (I am from Russia).
Now there is 60+ accounts that I did build for him.
Each one spams on 10 accounts 24/7.

I will only mention his main accounts because when those get tagged, his whole scheme will be ruined anyway. His main 2 accounts are: aTriz and Decoded
Thank you for replying.Is there any other information would you like to provide ? Like the slack channel info,bitcoin addresses where you were paid.More accounts which you farmed for him.You can look for any screenshots of the slack conversations or something.You need to help me with relevant proofs if you want those accounts to be tagged at all.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTrizAKAdecoded on October 26, 2017, 12:01:50 PM
Do you have any proof of communication? You stated that you talked via email. Why change your story to slack now?
Send any proof you have. Payments, emails, account names and whatnot. If that person really has more than 60 accounts, I'm pretty sure he deserves to get all of them tagged.  ;D (But your story is built on a pile of unstable BS)

This is your alt account. ::) Why don't you use dothebeats next? You already did post on Aventhe too many times to "defend" yourself. ;D


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Aventhe on October 26, 2017, 12:02:56 PM
If I was an alt account of anyone:
1. Why would I be managing a campaign on this account instead of a higher ranked one?
2. If I have more accounts, why would I have created this account and build it up from scratch?



Just stating that aTriz, Decoded and I are in Sydney IMO isn't concrete evidence, but you can state whatever you want. Post any evidence you have and I will be more than happy to have a look.

Is dothebeats in sydney too?


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTriz on October 26, 2017, 12:03:36 PM
Do you have any proof of communication? You stated that you talked via email. Why change your story to slack now?
Send any proof you have. Payments, emails, account names and whatnot. If that person really has more than 60 accounts, I'm pretty sure he deserves to get all of them tagged.  ;D (But your story is built on a pile of unstable BS)

This is your alt account. ::) Why don't you use dothebeats next? You already did post on Aventhe too many times to "defend" yourself. ;D

Thank you for replying.Is there any other information would you like to provide ? Like the slack channel info,bitcoin addresses where you were paid.More accounts which you farmed for him.You can look for any screenshots of the slack conversations or something.You need to help me with relevant proofs if you want those accounts to be tagged at all.

Hi Joel,

The original thread is enough proof, because how would I find it just randomly? Also, those accounts are from the same one city on Earth (Sydney, Australia), therefore it is obvious I am not making it up. I have no reason to come here and post about it.

You can see here the location of aTriz|Decoded in the OP: https://i.imgur.com/0Lnga7W.png
Your only proof is that we are from the same city and some dodgy thread? Damn...


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: diagla on October 26, 2017, 12:12:08 PM
If I was an alt account of anyone:
1. Why would I be managing a campaign on this account instead of a higher ranked one?
2. If I have more accounts, why would I have created this account and build it up from scratch?



Sydney as a location in a city if 5.4 million IMO isn't concrete evidence, but you can state whatever you want. Post any evidence you have and I will be more than happy to have a look.

1. There is no reason you would not run campaigns from 2 different accounts. That is actually smart to cause confusion in the community and keep your scam alive.

2. If you think we are stupid enough to not see what you are doing which is obviously trying to run your business to steal money from campaigns and then entering your own alt accounts! "Build it up from scratch" what do you mean by that? Of course every account is built from scratch. Are you saying you bought others accounts on this forum?

The fact you are from Sydney and that old forum post is also from Sydney is concrete evidence. There is no reason for some random person to post a hidden thread from 2015 and there are 7,000,000,000 people on Earth what are the chances this person is lying when you are located in the same town? The population of Sydney is just 4,000,000 therefore there is only a 1 in 1,750 chance of this happening.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTriz on October 26, 2017, 12:14:39 PM
If I was an alt account of anyone:
1. Why would I be managing a campaign on this account instead of a higher ranked one?
2. If I have more accounts, why would I have created this account and build it up from scratch?



Sydney as a location in a city if 5.4 million IMO isn't concrete evidence, but you can state whatever you want. Post any evidence you have and I will be more than happy to have a look.

Easy.

1. There is no reason you would not run campaigns from 2 different accounts. In fact that would be smart to cause confusion in the community and keep your scam alive.

2. If you think we are stupid enough to not see what you are doing which is obviously trying to run your business to steal money from campaigns and then entering your own alt accounts! "Build it up from scratch" what do you mean by that? Of course every account is built from scratch. Are you saying you bought others accounts on this forum?

The fact you are from Sydney and the old forum post is also from Sydney IS concrete evidence. There is no reason for some random person to post this hidden thread from 2015 and there are 7,000,000,000 people on Earth what are the chances this person is lying when you are located in the same town?
Lol.

Proof of payment? Chat logs? Emails?
A link to a old thread doesn't mean anything.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTrizAKAdecoded on October 26, 2017, 12:18:18 PM
If I was an alt account of anyone:
1. Why would I be managing a campaign on this account instead of a higher ranked one?
2. If I have more accounts, why would I have created this account and build it up from scratch?



Sydney as a location in a city if 5.4 million IMO isn't concrete evidence, but you can state whatever you want. Post any evidence you have and I will be more than happy to have a look.

1. There is no reason you would not run campaigns from 2 different accounts. That is actually smart to cause confusion in the community and keep your scam alive.

2. If you think we are stupid enough to not see what you are doing which is obviously trying to run your business to steal money from campaigns and then entering your own alt accounts! "Build it up from scratch" what do you mean by that? Of course every account is built from scratch. Are you saying you bought others accounts on this forum?

The fact you are from Sydney and that old forum post is also from Sydney is concrete evidence. There is no reason for some random person to post a hidden thread from 2015 and there are 7,000,000,000 people on Earth what are the chances this person is lying when you are located in the same town? The population of Sydney is just 4,000,000 therefore there is only a 1 in 1,750 chance of this happening.

Thanks man

Of course why would i be lying about this? I have nothing to gain, only helping the forum to remove this scammer/spammer.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTriz on October 26, 2017, 12:20:33 PM
Forgot about a pm you sent me ?


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Bazista - 0.001BTC/post
Bitsler - 0.001BTC/post to 0.0011BTC/post
Ice Rock - 0.001BTC/post
Javvy - 0.001BTC/post
Xaurum Gamma - 0.0008BTC/post not counting altcoin tokens

That is only per post, not per week. Of course, ChipMixer is the highest paying campaign on a weekly basis. ::)
Are you an idiot? If you max out on posts for chip mixer, you receive a max of 0.0375. With the other campaigns, you can get a max of 0.03. Why would darkstar spend time doing an extra 20 posts for 0.0075 when he was in bitsler (which paid pretty much the same as chipmixer) and when he could never max out on posts for his campaign. Seems like you are making stuff up to keep your dead argument up. Talk on your main account or your opinion doesn't matter.

If darkstar doesn't mind, you can contact another manager to review posts, maybe that'll shut you up.

I would not be trying to attack others here, sir aTriz. It is possible you are a massive account farmer: https://letstalkbitcoin.com/forum/post/need-someone-to-post-on-my-bitcointalk-accounts-for-me

Is it you? https://i.imgur.com/5fG20YP.png ;)


Invullx= aTriz?

???

Good question. Yes, as you got banned in that forum you will too here because account farming is not accepted in the rules. ;)
Let me ask you again. How is invullx me?

Hmmm who is that mystery account farmer from Sydney, Australia? ;)
Anyone in Sydney= has to be aTriz.

You got me there mate

Hmmm, it is a very big coincidence?
Population of Sydney= 4mil<

Don't you think there is even a slight possibility of that not being me?

I never said it is you. But you didn't think it is a coincidence there is some other massive account farmer from Sydney like you? :)

https://i.imgur.com/8Q2E7hL.png

This proves how weak your argument is.

From Darkstar to me and decoded. Why do you hate campaign managers?


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: LoyceV on October 26, 2017, 12:21:27 PM
None of those users is untrusted, so this shouldn't matter all that much.  Dothebeats is kind of a shitposter but not a scammer, and neither aTriz nor Decoded are shitposters and definitely not scammers. 
It isn't specifically about those users but considering the worst case scenario which is someone paying people to rank up their 100+ accounts is what bothers me.
It was to be expected people do that, but it's no different than hiring 500 Indonesians to sit in a clickfarm and shitpost to level up their accounts.
Here's a recent example: Earn 20 dollars for make 28 post in 1 month (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2317435.0).

Now there is 60+ accounts that I did build for him.
Each one spams on 10 accounts 24/7.

I will only mention his main accounts because when those get tagged, his whole scheme will be ruined anyway. His main 2 accounts are: aTriz and Decoded
In my country, we have a saying: "who claims proves". If you can't prove anything, and refuse to give the full information, what's the point of your accusations?


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Aventhe on October 26, 2017, 12:21:38 PM
If I was an alt account of anyone:
1. Why would I be managing a campaign on this account instead of a higher ranked one?
2. If I have more accounts, why would I have created this account and build it up from scratch?



Sydney as a location in a city if 5.4 million IMO isn't concrete evidence, but you can state whatever you want. Post any evidence you have and I will be more than happy to have a look.

Easy.

1. There is no reason you would not run campaigns from 2 different accounts. In fact that would be smart to cause confusion in the community and keep your scam alive.

2. If you think we are stupid enough to not see what you are doing which is obviously trying to run your business to steal money from campaigns and then entering your own alt accounts! "Build it up from scratch" what do you mean by that? Of course every account is built from scratch. Are you saying you bought others accounts on this forum?

The fact you are from Sydney and the old forum post is also from Sydney IS concrete evidence. There is no reason for some random person to post this hidden thread from 2015 and there are 7,000,000,000 people on Earth what are the chances this person is lying when you are located in the same town?

Uhhh, you do realise that the old thread is to accuse aTriz and Decoded, not myself.

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to steal money from campaigns and then entering your own alt accounts!

This is my one and only account, and I have no intention of getting another account whatsoever. Believe what you want, I'm no CasioK. You can go ask Lauda, I've notified her of bought/ hacked accounts posting on my bounty thread and those have gotten negged. But I guess you will just dismiss anything that I say.





Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: diagla on October 26, 2017, 12:24:50 PM
This is my one and only account, and I have no intention of getting another account whatsoever. Believe what you want, I'm no CasioK. You can go ask Lauda, I've notified her of bought/ hacked accounts posting on my bounty thread and those have gotten negged. But I guess you will just dismiss anything that I say.

The guy says he posted on this account for you, and I believe him.

It is obvious this in an alt... I checked your posting history and you also "defended" aTriz on other occasions. ::) Good job proving OP right!


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTriz on October 26, 2017, 12:28:59 PM
This is my one and only account, and I have no intention of getting another account whatsoever. Believe what you want, I'm no CasioK. You can go ask Lauda, I've notified her of bought/ hacked accounts posting on my bounty thread and those have gotten negged. But I guess you will just dismiss anything that I say.

The guy says he posted on this account for you, and I believe him.

It is obvious this in an alt... I checked your posting history and you also "defended" aTriz on other occasions. ::) Good job proving OP right!
Do you think someone who had such good proof whould do this?


https://i.imgur.com/8Q2E7hL.png



Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Aventhe on October 26, 2017, 12:32:03 PM
This is my one and only account, and I have no intention of getting another account whatsoever. Believe what you want, I'm no CasioK. You can go ask Lauda, I've notified her of bought/ hacked accounts posting on my bounty thread and those have gotten negged. But I guess you will just dismiss anything that I say.

The guy says he posted on this account for you, and I believe him.

It is obvious this in an alt... I checked your posting history and you also "defended" aTriz on other occasions. ::) Good job proving OP right!

Wait, so am I an alt of atriz, dothebeats or decoded? I'm so confused right now...


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: AlphaWolf on October 26, 2017, 12:33:56 PM
Wait, so am I an alt of atriz, dothebeats or decoded? I'm so confused right now...

Obvious alt is obvious:

https://i.imgur.com/Km6UWls.png

Enjoy your negative rep! :)


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTriz on October 26, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
Wait, so am I an alt of atriz, dothebeats or decoded? I'm so confused right now...

Obvious alt is obvious:

https://i.imgur.com/Km6UWls.png

Enjoy your negative rep! :)

This user's email address was changed recently.
This user changed his/her password recently.

Nice hacked/bought account.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTrizAKAdecoded on October 26, 2017, 12:40:56 PM
Wait, so am I an alt of atriz, dothebeats or decoded? I'm so confused right now...

Obvious alt is obvious:

https://i.imgur.com/Km6UWls.png

Enjoy your negative rep! :)

Thanks !


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: AlphaWolf on October 26, 2017, 12:42:29 PM
Wait, so am I an alt of atriz, dothebeats or decoded? I'm so confused right now...

Obvious alt is obvious:

https://i.imgur.com/Km6UWls.png

Enjoy your negative rep! :)

This user's email address was changed recently.
This user changed his/her password recently.

Nice hacked/bought account.

Coming from the one who always changes their email/pass. ::)

Obviously now we know why. Counting the hours until you get tagged. hahaha


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: diagla on October 26, 2017, 12:47:39 PM
Quote
Obvious alt is obvious:

https://i.imgur.com/Km6UWls.png

Enjoy your negative rep! :)

Nothing more to discuss. OP is obviously telling the truth and aTriz and Aventhe are the same person.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTriz on October 26, 2017, 12:48:14 PM
Quote
Obvious alt is obvious:

https://i.imgur.com/Km6UWls.png

Enjoy your negative rep! :)

Nothing more to discuss. OP is obviously telling the truth and aTriz and Aventhe are the same person.
Shit this guy has more alts than QS.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: diagla on October 26, 2017, 12:49:28 PM
Quote
Obvious alt is obvious:

https://i.imgur.com/Km6UWls.png

Enjoy your negative rep! :)

Nothing more to discuss. OP is obviously telling the truth and aTriz and Aventhe are the same person.
Shit this guy has more alts than QS.



Yes, I am an alt of Joel Jantsen . ::)


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTrizAKAdecoded on October 26, 2017, 01:06:14 PM
Do you have any proof of communication? You stated that you talked via email. Why change your story to slack now?
Send any proof you have. Payments, emails, account names and whatnot. If that person really has more than 60 accounts, I'm pretty sure he deserves to get all of them tagged.  ;D (But your story is built on a pile of unstable BS)

This is your alt account. ::) Why don't you use dothebeats next? You already did post on Aventhe too many times to "defend" yourself. ;D


i told you !
https://i.imgur.com/Km6UWls.png aTriz|Aventhe is so stupid to use the same information !  :o


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTriz on October 26, 2017, 01:08:43 PM
Do you have any proof of communication? You stated that you talked via email. Why change your story to slack now?
Send any proof you have. Payments, emails, account names and whatnot. If that person really has more than 60 accounts, I'm pretty sure he deserves to get all of them tagged.  ;D (But your story is built on a pile of unstable BS)

This is your alt account. ::) Why don't you use dothebeats next? You already did post on Aventhe too many times to "defend" yourself. ;D


i told you !
https://i.imgur.com/Km6UWls.png aTriz|Aventhe is so stupid to use the same information !  :o

Proof of communication? Payment?


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: diagla on October 26, 2017, 01:10:13 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Km6UWls.png

Busted.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: blackmagician on October 26, 2017, 01:17:06 PM
Come on,it is so clear that atriz and aventhe is same person,. Give the right punishnent to both of them.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTriz on October 26, 2017, 01:17:53 PM
Come on,it is so clear that atriz and aventhe is same person,. Give the right punishnent to both of them.

 Self-admitted bought account.
Account sales encourage scams, spam, and account farming.

LOL.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: blackmagician on October 26, 2017, 01:21:59 PM
Come on,it is so clear that atriz and aventhe is same person,. Give the right punishnent to both of them.

 Self-admitted bought account.
Account sales encourage scams, spam, and account farming.

LOL.
Goodbye on your handled campaign,cheater!!!!


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Lauda on October 26, 2017, 01:22:06 PM
I have interacted with both atriz and aventhe, albeit briefly, several times over the course of the past few weeks. It is my belief that these two are not owned/used by the same person. No actual evidence of this was provided in this thread either.

Now for the other hacked/bought accounts in here, I will have to take a better look soon.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: diagla on October 26, 2017, 01:27:04 PM
https://i.imgur.com/e3kGhLS.jpg

Both profiles are literally identical.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: blackmagician on October 26, 2017, 01:30:44 PM
I have interacted with both atriz and aventhe, albeit briefly, several times over the course of the past few weeks. It is my belief that these two are not owned/used by the same person. No actual evidence of this was provided in this thread either.

Now for the other hacked/bought accounts in here, I will have to take a better look soon.
Any proof?  Youre protecting this cheaters!!! How much did they offered to you. Or you must be atriz too.
Or maybe.you and atriz are friends that is you keep defending him.what the fuck.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Aventhe on October 26, 2017, 01:31:07 PM
More proof:

https://i.imgur.com/e3kGhLS.jpg

Both profiles are literally identical.

Do you have any idea how many people use that exact sentence in their profile?... Let me tell you, it's not just atriz and I


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTriz on October 26, 2017, 01:32:40 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Jdyd8hz.png

Edwardad=aTriz=Aventhe?


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Lauda on October 26, 2017, 01:34:44 PM
Any proof?  Youre protecting this cheaters!!! How much did they offered to you. Or you must be atriz too.
We are all atriz.

https://i.imgur.com/pXMWiI0.png


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTrizAKAdecoded on October 26, 2017, 01:35:46 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Jdyd8hz.png

Edwardad=aTriz=Aventhe?

i can confirm , edwardard is another alt of aTriz|Decoded|Aventhe|dothebeats

Edit: https://letstalkbitcoin.com/forum/post/need-someone-to-post-on-my-bitcointalk-accounts-for-me 14 accounts total


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTriz on October 26, 2017, 01:36:38 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Jdyd8hz.png

Edwardad=aTriz=Aventhe?

i can confirm , edwardard is another alt of aTriz|Decoded|Aventhe|dothebeats

What about Satoshi? must be him right?


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Lauda on October 26, 2017, 01:37:07 PM
i can confirm , edwardard is another alt of aTriz|Decoded|Aventhe|dothebeats
I can confirm that you're a butthurt troll and no smarter than a rock. This goes for anyone who claims any of this is "proof" of any kind.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Aventhe on October 26, 2017, 01:40:42 PM
Refer back to my original post in chipmixer campaign:
Hold on, let me join in on the fun! @Sixcoin, I'm from Sydney too!  ;D

Am I an account farmer? Please let me know, I might have forgotten.

@aTriz, the population of Sydney is ~5.3 million

I know I'm no Albert Einstein or Steven hawking, but I for sure know that I am not retarded enough to go and 'introduce' my account to then be paired with atriz in the chipmixer campaign.

If I was really an alt account, why would I write a post like that?

-snip-

Edwardad=aTriz=Aventhe?

i can confirm , edwardard is another alt of aTriz|Decoded|Aventhe|dothebeats

Edit: https://letstalkbitcoin.com/forum/post/need-someone-to-post-on-my-bitcointalk-accounts-for-me 14 accounts total

Lauda, no! This guy knows what he is talking about! ;D


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: blackmagician on October 26, 2017, 01:42:39 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Jdyd8hz.png

Edwardad=aTriz=Aventhe?

i can confirm , edwardard is another alt of aTriz|Decoded|Aventhe|dothebeats

Edit: https://letstalkbitcoin.com/forum/post/need-someone-to-post-on-my-bitcointalk-accounts-for-me 14 accounts total
What fuck,14 accounts all legendary by know,his making huge money by cheating in this forum and yet this dt member allowing his doings. Good job on both of you.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTrizAKAdecoded on October 26, 2017, 01:44:55 PM
I don't understand what is going on . Why doesn't aTriz/Aventhe get negative rep ?


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: blackmagician on October 26, 2017, 01:47:52 PM
I don't understand what is going on .
It seems like dt members are in favor to atriz.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTrizAKAdecoded on October 26, 2017, 01:54:54 PM
I don't understand what is going on .
It seems like dt members are in favor to atriz.

when i worked for atriz|decoded|dothebeats|edwardard|aventhe, he did say lauda is a scammer . it is funny when lauda defend him after he did talk so bad on lauda :D


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTriz on October 26, 2017, 02:05:42 PM
I don't understand what is going on .
It seems like dt members are in favor to atriz.

when i worked for atriz|decoded|dothebeats|edwardard|aventhe, he did say lauda is a scammer . it is funny when lauda defend him after he did talk so bad on lauda :D
Think you got Lauda mixed up with quickseller mate


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTrizAKAdecoded on October 26, 2017, 02:07:55 PM
Think you got Lauda mixed up with quickseller mate

not quickseller, you did tell me lauda is a scammer


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Lauda on October 26, 2017, 02:09:26 PM
Think you got Lauda mixed up with quickseller mate
not quickseller, you did tell me lauda is a scammer
And you plan on proving said allegation how exactly? I can literally make up any kind of "he/she/they told me X" story within a few seconds.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Decoded on October 26, 2017, 10:26:20 PM
This thread is repeatedly outdoing itself in regards to stupidity.

https://media.giphy.com/media/IPiNQ3YEoNOMw/giphy.gif


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Lauda on October 26, 2017, 10:45:58 PM
I just woke up, and it is ~10 AM @aTriz's place. Is that enough proof that aTriz = Lauda ???


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Aventhe on October 26, 2017, 10:50:03 PM
Great to be a part of the team. Atriz=aventhe=lauda=decoded=60 other accounts= QS Account Farming Co.™


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: 8270thNinja on October 27, 2017, 01:07:57 AM
This thread is funny, Specially the alts that continually arguing that Atriz=decoded=darkstar=Aventhe=Edwardad=Lauda.
Obviously they are just butt hurt because they were not accepted on a signature campaign that Atriz is managing.
Everyone in Bitcointalk is AtRiz #WhatARevelation.  ;D


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTriz on October 27, 2017, 04:47:03 AM
Okay let's do a fucking breakdown of this then.

This was posted on March 15 and asked someone to post on 15 Full member accounts. Let's take Decoded in consideration here.  From March 15- October 27 there is 957 days. Considering you said you posted all the way from that day to around 3-4 months before October. Let's just say that's 800 days. Considering the forum gives 14 activity per fortnight and full member should have at least 120 activity and you are doing 100 posts a week, the farmed account should have at least 920 activity. Decoded has 882. I have 500ish. Aventhe didn't even exist in 2015. Edwardad also has 600ish. The activity doesn't match up.

Case closed.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: diagla on October 27, 2017, 05:07:02 AM
https://i.imgur.com/fbapbUZ.png
https://i.imgur.com/R4CleBU.png

Can't say about the other accused although they are shady, these two are clearly the same person.

Regardless if they have a connection to the account farmer from Sydney, they are one themselves unless they can prove the identical profile information is somehow a coincidence.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTriz on October 27, 2017, 05:08:25 AM
https://i.imgur.com/fbapbUZ.png
https://i.imgur.com/R4CleBU.png

Can't say about the other accused although they are shady, these two are clearly the same person.

Okay let's do a fucking breakdown of this then.

This was posted on March 15 and asked someone to post on 15 Full member accounts. Let's take Decoded in consideration here.  From March 15- October 27 there is 957 days. Considering you said you posted all the way from that day to around 3-4 months before October. Let's just say that's 800 days. Considering the forum gives 14 activity per fortnight and full member should have at least 120 activity and you are doing 100 posts a week, the farmed account should have at least 920 activity. Decoded has 882. I have 500ish. Aventhe didn't even exist in 2015. Edwardad also has 600ish. The activity doesn't match up.

Case closed.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Aventhe on October 27, 2017, 05:09:04 AM
Does aTriz know Hungarian? Please let me know...


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: diagla on October 27, 2017, 05:09:58 AM
https://i.imgur.com/R4CleBU.png

Can't say about the other accused although they are shady, these two are clearly the same person.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Aventhe on October 27, 2017, 05:20:11 AM
Does aTriz know Hungarian? Please let me know...

Does he? Because I do. And I am pretty sure if we are the same people that the languages would overlap.

You are also stacked up on alt accounts, most likely abusing bounties. However there is not enough evidence to support that claim, so I won't push it, unlike you are doing.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTrizAKAdecoded on October 27, 2017, 05:25:05 AM
Does aTriz know Hungarian? Please let me know...

Does he? Because I do. And I am pretty sure if we are the same people that the languages would overlap.

You are also stacked up on alt accounts, most likely abusing bounties. However there is not enough evidence to support that claim, so I won't push it, unlike you are doing.

You still did not explain to us why your profile is identical to aTriz ::)
Proof: https://i.imgur.com/R4CleBU.png ;)


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Aventhe on October 27, 2017, 05:33:29 AM
Does aTriz know Hungarian? Please let me know...

Does he? Because I do. And I am pretty sure if we are the same people that the languages would overlap.

You are also stacked up on alt accounts, most likely abusing bounties. However there is not enough evidence to support that claim, so I won't push it, unlike you are doing.

But you still did not explain them why your profile is identical to aTriz ::)
Proof: https://i.imgur.com/R4CleBU.png

You guys are extremely retarded. If I was an alt account, why would I make my profile the same? That would just draw more attention. I'm no rocket scientists, but I do have an IQ of more than 60... Yes, I copied the email as I had no other ideas for that. I also use **t*@gmail.com, but I don't want to use it for bitcointalk. The rest is pretty standard stuff, I would think so. But believe what you want

BTW nice hacked account post made by btcbrother!  ::) though it got deleted...


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: diagla on October 27, 2017, 05:36:25 AM
You guys are extremely retarded. If I was an alt account, why would I make my profile the same? That would just draw more attention.

Maybe you did not expect a thread you posted from 2015 to come against you? ;)


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Aventhe on October 27, 2017, 05:39:36 AM
I didn't even exist in 2015...  ;D

Why didn't you post this thread 2 months ago when 'aTriz/decoded/lauda/edwarded/dothebeats' cancelled your 'services'? What has changed since then?

At least post ANY evidence to support your claim with the timestamp dating to 2015..

EDIT: please answer my questions..


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: actmyname on October 27, 2017, 06:39:33 AM
We note the contradiction.

This is your alt account. You already did post on Aventhe too many times to "defend" yourself. ;D

Aventhe -> Date Registered: July 04, 2017, 11:40:26 PM

Back in 2015, I came across this thread by a user named Invullx asking for someone to post on 14 of their Bitcointalk accounts. Fast forward to now - about 2 months ago I realized that I am wasting my time as I could make my own account and make the same money instead of posting on 14 accounts for someone else. Therefore I started a new account and quit posting for Invullx(aTriz/decoded).

Now, what would be the point of registering a new account under the name of Aventhe if Invullx wouldn't get paid for it and one wouldn't be able to enter any signature campaigns? After all, Invullx had "14 bitcointalk full member" accounts.

Thus, we can conclude that the proof is invalid. Q.E.D.




You still did not explain to us why your profile is identical to aTriz
Why is this relevant? Profile similarities will simply be found eventually due to the sheer sample size. You're just cherry-picking data. Given the number of accounts on the forum, it wouldn't be unlikely to see some correspondence between two different individuals. Ever heard of the birthday problem/paradox?



Oh, and if you want a clear example of how stupid accusations can be, go ahead and look through this thread that accuses DarkStar_ and I of being alts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1591618.0

Our profiles were even more similar. ;)


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Aventhe on October 27, 2017, 06:52:25 AM
If you type into Google: "need people to post bitcointalk", Invullx's article should be on the first page, and it is the only one I have found so far. Finding this article was pure luck.

Oh, and if you want a clear example of how stupid accusations can be, go ahead and look through this thread that accuses DarkStar_ and I of being alts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1591618.0

Our profiles were even more similar. ;)

OMG, you are an alt of Darkstar_!!!!!! You just can't deny the evidence  ;D ;D

https://i.imgur.com/aVktpH6.png



Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: LoyceV on October 27, 2017, 09:26:50 AM
Last time I used that gif on Rollin they made me Mod :o

You guys are extremely retarded. If I was an alt account, why would I make my profile the same? That would just draw more attention. I'm no rocket scientists, but I do have an IQ of more than 60... Yes, I copied the email as I had no other ideas for that. I also use ~@gmail.com, but I don't want to use it for bitcointalk. The rest is pretty standard stuff, I would think so.
That time zone argument is the best, it's just an option you can set to whatever you want on the forum.

On a serious note, spam bots love your email address here, you may want to edit it.

This was posted on March 15 and asked someone to post on 15 Full member accounts. Let's take Decoded in consideration here.  From March 15- October 27 there is 957 days. Considering you said you posted all the way from that day to around 3-4 months before October. Let's just say that's 800 days. Considering the forum gives 14 activity per fortnight and full member should have at least 120 activity and you are doing 100 posts a week, the farmed account should have at least 920 activity. Decoded has 882. I have 500ish. Aventhe didn't even exist in 2015. Edwardad also has 600ish. The activity doesn't match up.
My activity matches that quite accuratately :o
I also use Gmail, and I've been to Sydney :o
Did you know the Dutch were the first to discover Australia, long before the British? :o


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Aventhe on October 27, 2017, 09:52:56 AM
On a serious note, spam bots love your email address here, you may want to edit it.

Thank you for that, I have removed it, and we both know which email we are talking about.

I also use Gmail, and I've been to Sydney :o

Oh no... Thats not looking good.

Did you know the Dutch were the first to discover Australia, long before the British? :o

And also that a decent chunk of the population of Hungary fled to Australia in the 56' revolt against the USSR. I personally know a few distant relatives who have done this - but lets not get off-topic  ;D


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Aventhe on October 27, 2017, 10:50:10 AM
I see you have given aTriz and I negative trust. I just find it funny how you first started out to accuse aTriz of being an alt of Decoded and now you have forgotten all about him and now its just aTriz and myself. What happened to everyone else?  ???

You still haven't answered any of anyone's questions. Proof of work?

Your statement of why you would bring this topic back from 2015 is very weak. As I said before, you type into google: "Need people to post bitcointalk" and this will be the first and only article to come up. Grow up.

EDIT: aTriz went from having 14 accounts to 60 and now 100. Account numbers to the moon?


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTrizAKAdecoded on October 27, 2017, 11:51:11 AM
I see you have given aTriz and I negative trust. I just find it funny how you first started out to accuse aTriz of being an alt of Decoded and now you have forgotten all about him and now its just aTriz and myself. What happened to everyone else?  ???

You still haven't answered any of anyone's questions. Proof of work?

Your statement of why you would bring this topic back from 2015 is very weak. As I said before, you type into google: "Need people to post bitcointalk" and this will be the first and only article to come up. Grow up.

EDIT: aTriz went from having 14 accounts to 60 and now 100. Account numbers to the moon?

Because I stopped working for you 2 months ago, when you did start to make a new account each day. 60 + 60 = 120 ;)


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Aventhe on October 27, 2017, 11:54:50 AM
Any conversations of PM? Any TX IDs of payments? Please do share....

EDIT: Why do you go inactive immediately after a single post? Logging onto an alt account maybe?

Edit#2: Questions still not answered..


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTrizAKAdecoded on October 27, 2017, 12:32:30 PM
Any conversations of PM? Any TX IDs of payments? Please do share....

EDIT: Why do you go inactive immediately after a single post? Logging onto an alt account maybe?

Or playing CSGO?


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: HCP on October 27, 2017, 11:29:56 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/1ydt3x.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/1ydt3x)

Decoded, do you have enough popcorn to share or should I go microwave my own? :P


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on October 27, 2017, 11:35:43 PM
Joel_Jantsen, I get the concern here about many alt accounts and offering someone to pay to post.  I just don't see good evidence here that it's true for aTriz.  Maybe that screenshot is accurate, maybe not.  In any case, I have nothing further to say since it'd be a conflict of interest being in one of his campaigns. 

There are a lot of people here with alt accounts, and not all of them are bad, necessarily.  The ones who are the worst are those who can't speak English, abuse signature and bounties, and shitpost all over the place.  ATriz, Decoded, and to a lesser extent, dothebeats, are not among the bad guys here in any case.  One has to pick one's battles, and this is not one of mine.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Aventhe on October 27, 2017, 11:43:28 PM
However I am somehow included too in this, when all I did is call this butthurt troller's claims absurd...

If I was truly an alt of atriz, why would I get involved when at first I was never accused of anything?

--- Still no evidence given to backup OP's claims.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: aTriz on October 28, 2017, 01:35:19 AM
I see you have given aTriz and I negative trust. I just find it funny how you first started out to accuse aTriz of being an alt of Decoded and now you have forgotten all about him and now its just aTriz and myself. What happened to everyone else?  ???

You still haven't answered any of anyone's questions. Proof of work?

Your statement of why you would bring this topic back from 2015 is very weak. As I said before, you type into google: "Need people to post bitcointalk" and this will be the first and only article to come up. Grow up.

EDIT: aTriz went from having 14 accounts to 60 and now 100. Account numbers to the moon?
Me too. Already 4 negs from butthurt spammers. Let's see how many more i can get  ;D


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: tj4dmx on October 28, 2017, 02:18:06 AM
https://i.imgur.com/fbapbUZ.png
https://i.imgur.com/R4CleBU.png

Can't say about the other accused although they are shady, these two are clearly the same person.

Okay let's do a fucking breakdown of this then.

This was posted on March 15 and asked someone to post on 15 Full member accounts. Let's take Decoded in consideration here.  From March 15- October 27 there is 957 days. Considering you said you posted all the way from that day to around 3-4 months before October. Let's just say that's 800 days. Considering the forum gives 14 activity per fortnight and full member should have at least 120 activity and you are doing 100 posts a week, the farmed account should have at least 920 activity. Decoded has 882. I have 500ish. Aventhe didn't even exist in 2015. Edwardad also has 600ish. The activity doesn't match up.

Case closed.

Smile....


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: xLays on October 28, 2017, 04:41:21 PM
I think we need Kogoro Mouri here to investigate this case! LOL Just kidding.

Anyway, there are many valid evidence provided that the mentioned account is connected for being abuser here in bitcointalk but why there's no Default Trust rating member tagged those account? Mentioned accounts are also giving positive trust to each other.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Aventhe on October 28, 2017, 08:48:35 PM
Anyway, there are is many valid evidence provided...
What do you consider concrete evidence? As far as I know no evidence has been given out.


Title: Re: --aTriz = Decoded-- [Cross Posting from Scam Accusations] [Interesting]
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on October 29, 2017, 05:57:48 PM
Due to the lack of evidence provided and no seriousness from the creator of the topic [cross posting newbie account] I'm locking this thread.

@aTriz  - Not to mention but you shouldn't act all that defensive knowing you have a bought account.Precisely,your account was bought around 2016 so the reason that you give about 'being not active on the forum in 2015' is bullshit.
(can definitely prove if needed [any should be worth my time]) Anyway,doesn't bother me.