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Title: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: oregongreen on June 11, 2013, 02:18:02 PM
Hello....Newb here of course....

I wanted to switch over to the Armory wallet by transferring my bitcoins to it from my Bitcoin QT wallet. Backed up my .dat file just incase something odd were to happen, and then of course it appears that something did.

I had thought I copied the new address correctly and sent the transaction, however when I went back to look, it appeared the new wallet address was not correct. Have NO idea how that happened, doesn't really matter of course. However there are 0 confirms and I wanted to know what my options are @ this point.

Thanks in advance to those who can advise.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: drakahn on June 11, 2013, 02:22:50 PM
with 0 confirmations you still have a window

use pywallet to delete the transaction from your wallet and then respend the funds (possibly with a larger fee) and hope the respend gets confirmed first


Title: Re: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: Chrithu on June 11, 2013, 02:27:20 PM
with 0 confirmations you still have a window

use pywallet to delete the transaction from your wallet and then respend the funds (possibly with a larger fee) and hope the respend gets confirmed first

Cool. I didn't know that's possible. Good to know. I will get pywallet asap, just i case I ever have the same happen as the OP.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: oregongreen on June 11, 2013, 02:29:46 PM
I went to look on the blockchain and here is some additional information from which I hope helps...

Address xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    First seen?: Never used on the network (as far as I can tell)
    Received transactions: 0
    Received BTC: 0
    Sent transactions: 0
    Sent BTC: 0
    Hash160?: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Public key?:
    Unknown (not seen yet)

Ledger?

Note: While the last "balance" is the accurate number of bitcoins available to this address, it is likely not the balance available to this person. Every time a transaction is sent, some bitcoins are usually sent back to yourself at a new address (not included in the Bitcoin UI), which makes the balance of a single address misleading. See the wiki for more info on transactions


Title: Re: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: Bitcoin Merchant on June 11, 2013, 03:29:35 PM
Did the payment go through yet?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: oregongreen on June 11, 2013, 07:01:05 PM
It wasn't even a payment...it did go thru...I have no idea where the wallet key came from, because I copied it off the Armory wallet, however i didn't double check.

https://blockchain.info/address/1ZmAVrjGCHdyUDN3mGGgnmS4rp7ygbJ2S

Bottom line it's not to any merchane and that's the pisser...I think it's gone...since the wallet # shows it received... I'm baffled on how this happened and sick as of the moment...



Title: Re: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: niko on June 11, 2013, 07:51:06 PM
It wasn't even a payment...it did go thru...I have no idea where the wallet key came from, because I copied it off the Armory wallet, however i didn't double check.

https://blockchain.info/address/1ZmAVrjGCHdyUDN3mGGgnmS4rp7ygbJ2S

Bottom line it's not to any merchane and that's the pisser...I think it's gone...since the wallet # shows it received... I'm baffled on how this happened and sick as of the moment...


It may be infection. There is a stealer around which watches clipboard for bitcoin addresses, then simply replaces them with the thief's address when pasting.
I guess you can simply try: copy and address from armory, paste into bitcoin-qt, and visually confirm it is the same.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: Bitcoin Merchant on June 11, 2013, 08:33:04 PM
Bitcoin transactions can not be cancelled.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: hashgirl on June 11, 2013, 08:41:42 PM
Be very careful, your system might be compromised... Wish you luck!!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: Bitcoin Merchant on June 11, 2013, 08:55:46 PM
can we get a update on what happend


Title: Re: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: oregongreen on June 12, 2013, 03:09:49 AM
The only thing that's up is the bitcoins are in the address I posted and from what people have posted on here, they are gone. I think there was something in the Armory Wallet installation, because I've yet to have any issues with that stuff until today. Normally I do double check addresses...however I did not today since it was a new wallet and I had no reason to doubt there being an issue. Wrong!!

Sucks to because it was quite a bit of mining on 4-5850s to get those over the course of the last 6 weeks...

Again if anyone has suggestions let me know...however I do think they are gone...

Regarding my system...ya it's getting re-imaged for that exact reason..


Title: Re: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: bitbybit2 on June 12, 2013, 03:25:10 AM
It says in your block you have atleast 2.3 bitcoins.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: niko on June 12, 2013, 03:26:25 AM
The only thing that's up is the bitcoins are in the address I posted and from what people have posted on here, they are gone. I think there was something in the Armory Wallet installation, because I've yet to have any issues with that stuff until today. Normally I do double check addresses...however I did not today since it was a new wallet and I had no reason to doubt there being an issue. Wrong!!

Sucks to because it was quite a bit of mining on 4-5850s to get those over the course of the last 6 weeks...

Again if anyone has suggestions let me know...however I do think they are gone...

Regarding my system...ya it's getting re-imaged for that exact reason..
Would you mind sharing what you had installed, and where you got it? Mining software, clients, widgets...?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: oregongreen on June 12, 2013, 05:17:59 PM
It says in your block you have atleast 2.3 bitcoins.

I'm not following what you mean here?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: oregongreen on June 12, 2013, 05:18:56 PM
The only thing that's up is the bitcoins are in the address I posted and from what people have posted on here, they are gone. I think there was something in the Armory Wallet installation, because I've yet to have any issues with that stuff until today. Normally I do double check addresses...however I did not today since it was a new wallet and I had no reason to doubt there being an issue. Wrong!!

Sucks to because it was quite a bit of mining on 4-5850s to get those over the course of the last 6 weeks...

Again if anyone has suggestions let me know...however I do think they are gone...

Regarding my system...ya it's getting re-imaged for that exact reason..
Would you mind sharing what you had installed, and where you got it? Mining software, clients, widgets...?

This is where I went.... http://bitcoinarmory.googlecode.com/files/armory_0.88.1-beta_win64.msi

It's very odd no doubt....


Title: Re: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: kodo on June 12, 2013, 05:29:01 PM
Whats the progress on this?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: oregongreen on June 12, 2013, 08:23:52 PM
Whats the progress on this?

There is no progress @ this point, because I am lead to believe it's a done and over deal. Seems as if my clipboard was manipulated with an alternative address from something I potentially downloaded from the Armory wallet website. I can't confirm that for sure however...

I'm waiting for someone to possible give me further advise if there is any... but certainly seems like I'm out 2.3 BTC....


Title: Re: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: CompNsci on June 12, 2013, 09:31:44 PM
I think if the transaction moving the 2.3 BTC is on the blockchain, then it is gone  >:(


Title: Re: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: CrypTrader on June 12, 2013, 10:40:50 PM
Just a reminder to all the newbies... Its really not a good idea to do bitcoin transactions on windows. Get a netbook, put linux on it, and use that to do all your bitcoin related things. Its really the only way to really be safe with all the windows keyloggers ( and apparently clipboard manipulators ) that seem to be running rampant still.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: PeterB on June 13, 2013, 12:23:35 AM
with 0 confirmations you still have a window

use pywallet to delete the transaction from your wallet and then respend the funds (possibly with a larger fee) and hope the respend gets confirmed first

What is pywallet?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: niko on June 13, 2013, 07:18:05 PM
Just a reminder to all the newbies... Its really not a good idea to do bitcoin transactions on windows. Get a netbook, put linux on it, and use that to do all your bitcoin related things. Its really the only way to really be safe with all the windows keyloggers ( and apparently clipboard manipulators ) that seem to be running rampant still.
Been running wallets and miners on Windows, transacted significant sums, for several years now... Never had anything stolen.
Also, when I use Linux, I do not suffer from the false sense of security, especially because I am not proficient in it.
What happened here has nothing to do with Windows, but with a yet unidentified malware that somehow found its way to this guy's computer


Title: Re: Bitcoin Transaction Cancellation Options?
Post by: 14966714 on June 13, 2013, 08:34:09 PM
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Love,
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