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Title: Gas fee?
Post by: seandiumx20 on October 31, 2017, 01:43:41 PM
How to do if i dont have gas on my wallet?
What is the required eth for me to deposit my token to the etherdelta?

and who is a good human that will let me borrow the required eth for me to withdraw the token that ive earned


Title: Re: Gas fee?
Post by: ask on October 31, 2017, 02:03:18 PM
you need to deposit some gas fee in your wallet to trade in etherdelta. So you need to buy some eth. thats the only one option for you .


Title: Re: Gas fee?
Post by: Poink on October 31, 2017, 02:14:34 PM
https://www.cryptocompare.com/coins/guides/what-is-the-gas-in-ethereum/

If I understood it right... 1 GAS = 1/100,000 ETH so if you have 1 ETH it is equal to 100,000 GAS

You then pay fees according to this table...or... increase it to get it performed faster.

Operation name Gas Cost Function
step            1    Default amount of gas to pay for an execution cycle.
stop     0    Nothing paid for the SUICIDE operation.
sha3     20     Paid for a SHA3 operation.
sload     20     Paid for a SLOAD operation.
sstore     100     Paid for a normal SSTORE operation (doubled or waived sometimes).
balance     20     Paid for a BALANCE operation
create     100     Paid for a CREATE operation
call             20     Paid for a CALL operation.
memory     1    Paid for every additional word when expanding memory
txdata     5     Paid for every byte of data or code for a transaction
transaction 500  Paid for every transaction

Please correct me if I am mistaken.


Title: Re: Gas fee?
Post by: shinratensei_ on October 31, 2017, 02:48:24 PM
How to do if i dont have gas on my wallet?
What is the required eth for me to deposit my token to the etherdelta?

and who is a good human that will let me borrow the required eth for me to withdraw the token that ive earned
If you are not having ethereum to pay gas and you will not able to make any transaction or send your token/ethereum into another wallet. The gas becomes a mandatory for every ethereum or erc20 token holders.
You may try to deposit at least 0,001 eth and you will be able to do a trade activity on etherdelta. Just give a suggestion about every transaction in etherdelta will cost gas or fees. Will be better to put the more ethereum in your wallet.


Title: Re: Gas fee?
Post by: PenStand on October 31, 2017, 03:27:56 PM
https://www.cryptocompare.com/coins/guides/what-is-the-gas-in-ethereum/

If I understood it right... 1 GAS = 1/100,000 ETH so if you have 1 ETH it is equal to 100,000 GAS

You then pay fees according to this table...or... increase it to get it performed faster.

Operation name Gas Cost Function
step            1    Default amount of gas to pay for an execution cycle.
stop     0    Nothing paid for the SUICIDE operation.
sha3     20     Paid for a SHA3 operation.
sload     20     Paid for a SLOAD operation.
sstore     100     Paid for a normal SSTORE operation (doubled or waived sometimes).
balance     20     Paid for a BALANCE operation
create     100     Paid for a CREATE operation
call             20     Paid for a CALL operation.
memory     1    Paid for every additional word when expanding memory
txdata     5     Paid for every byte of data or code for a transaction
transaction 500  Paid for every transaction

Please correct me if I am mistaken.

Your understanding about gas is a little bit wrong.
The transaction fee in Ethereum network is calculated by this way: gas number * gas price. A certain amount of the gas is needed for any operation. For eth transaction, the gas limit is 21000, which means for transaction eth, you need at least 21000 gas. And for  token transaction, i think the gas limit is doubled. And the second part is the gas price, usually the unit is default as Gwei, wei is the smallest unit in Ethereum network. 1 ETH= 1018wei. The higher gas price you give, the faster your transaction will be processed. For etherdelta, you can not set gas limit, but only gas price. If you want to change the gas number you need use chrome plugin metamask.


Title: Re: Gas fee?
Post by: Poink on October 31, 2017, 03:33:46 PM
https://www.cryptocompare.com/coins/guides/what-is-the-gas-in-ethereum/

If I understood it right... 1 GAS = 1/100,000 ETH so if you have 1 ETH it is equal to 100,000 GAS

You then pay fees according to this table...or... increase it to get it performed faster.

Operation name Gas Cost Function
step            1    Default amount of gas to pay for an execution cycle.
stop     0    Nothing paid for the SUICIDE operation.
sha3     20     Paid for a SHA3 operation.
sload     20     Paid for a SLOAD operation.
sstore     100     Paid for a normal SSTORE operation (doubled or waived sometimes).
balance     20     Paid for a BALANCE operation
create     100     Paid for a CREATE operation
call             20     Paid for a CALL operation.
memory     1    Paid for every additional word when expanding memory
txdata     5     Paid for every byte of data or code for a transaction
transaction 500  Paid for every transaction

Please correct me if I am mistaken.

Your understanding about gas is a little bit wrong.
The transaction fee in Ethereum network is calculated by this way: gas number * gas price. A certain amount of the gas is needed for any operation. For eth transaction, the gas limit is 21000, which means for transaction eth, you need at least 21000 gas. And for  token transaction, i think the gas limit is doubled. And the second part is the gas price, usually the unit is default as Gwei, wei is the smallest unit in Ethereum network. 1 ETH= 1018wei. The higher gas price you give, the faster your transaction will be processed. For etherdelta, you can not set gas limit, but only gas price. If you want to change the gas number you need use chrome plugin metamask.

Well I'm sorry to disagree....21,000 GAS per transaction is ridiculous!


Title: Re: Gas fee?
Post by: Jating on October 31, 2017, 03:39:41 PM
How to do if i dont have gas on my wallet?
What is the required eth for me to deposit my token to the etherdelta?

and who is a good human that will let me borrow the required eth for me to withdraw the token that ive earned

I think gas is like the equivalent of mining fee in bitcoin market if I'm correct. I have a similar issues as yours, I have a token in myetherwallet and when I try to send it a exchanges, I can't and later did I know that I have to deposit some eth on myetherwallet so that I can moved it to the exchanges. But good thing I didn't moved it because the price is really going up lately, so I can't answer your questions regarding how much eth you need in able to get your tokens out to a exchanges.


Title: Re: Gas fee?
Post by: hdtqisg on October 31, 2017, 03:42:43 PM
How to do if i dont have gas on my wallet?
What is the required eth for me to deposit my token to the etherdelta?

and who is a good human that will let me borrow the required eth for me to withdraw the token that ive earned
You need sent some ETH to wallet you want to add etherdelta ( about 0.1 ETH as your GAS fee)
And then you can make a contract with etherdelta to buy and sell your coin1


Title: Re: Gas fee?
Post by: munareal on October 31, 2017, 05:23:28 PM
For every transaction on ethereum platform you need to pay transaction fees from whole transaction amount.These fees are  paid  by users to the miners fas reward for mining the blocks of transactions and securing the block chain. The fees constitute gas limit multiple by gas price.

Ether Ttransaction  Fees = Gas Limit * Gas Price

Gas limit - The gas limit is  is 21,000 but could be higher  . It depends on the number of codes needed to execute your transaction.

Gas Price- This is the other variable in ether transaction fee measured in gwei. It determine how fast your transaction will be pick by miners to complete.The higher you pay the  faster your transaction is completed

 Check link below for more info.
 
https://ethgasstation.info



Title: Re: Gas fee?
Post by: KingScorpio on October 31, 2017, 05:27:47 PM
For every transaction on ethereum platform you need to pay transaction fees from whole transaction amount.These fees are  paid  by users to the miners fas reward for mining the blocks of transactions and securing the block chain. The fees constitute gas limit multiple by gas price.

Ether Ttransaction  Fees = Gas Limit * Gas Price

Gas limit - The gas limit is  is 21,000 but could be higher  . It depends on the number of codes needed to execute your transaction.

Gas Price- This is the other variable in ether transaction fee measured in gwei. It determine how fast your transaction will be pick by miners to complete.The higher you pay the  faster your transaction is completed

 Check link below for more info.
 
https://ethgasstation.info



how much is the transaction costs of ethereum?

0.17 USD?

thats something... daily usage of ethereum or ethereum assets is therefore not possible

regards


Title: Re: Gas fee?
Post by: coupable on October 31, 2017, 05:51:51 PM
I think i found a good topic to ask about my issue with min gas required for ethereum transactions. I have to claim my reward from a contract address. The bounty manager announce the address and the ABI

Dear participants of the bounty!

We are pleased to inform you that you can get your bounty!

To get tokens SNTR you need to:

1) To add to the wallet address of the contract bounty:

Code:
0x3d05317111A96a1a6aBF31e07B0CfA33173a19AA
2) Add ABI
 
Code:
[{"constant":true,"inputs":[],"name":"DURATION","outputs":[{"name":"","type":"uint256"}],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"view","type":"function"},{"constant":true,"inputs":[{"name":"","type":"uint256"}],"name":"collectedAddresses","outputs":[{"name":"","type":"address"}],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"view","type":"function"},{"constant":false,"inputs":[{"name":"receiver","type":"address"},{"name":"tokenAmount","type":"uint256"}],"name":"importReward","outputs":[],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"nonpayable","type":"function"},{"constant":true,"inputs":[],"name":"teamWallet","outputs":[{"name":"","type":"address"}],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"view","type":"function"},{"constant":true,"inputs":[{"name":"","type":"address"}],"name":"bountyRewards","outputs":[{"name":"","type":"uint256"}],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"view","type":"function"},{"constant":true,"inputs":[],"name":"collectedAddressesCount","outputs":[{"name":"","type":"uint256"}],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"view","type":"function"},{"constant":true,"inputs":[],"name":"startTime","outputs":[{"name":"","type":"uint256"}],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"view","type":"function"},{"constant":false,"inputs":[],"name":"withdrawRemainder","outputs":[],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"nonpayable","type":"function"},{"constant":false,"inputs":[{"name":"receiver","type":"address"}],"name":"clearReward","outputs":[],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"nonpayable","type":"function"},{"constant":true,"inputs":[],"name":"owner","outputs":[{"name":"","type":"address"}],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"view","type":"function"},{"constant":false,"inputs":[],"name":"claimReward","outputs":[],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"nonpayable","type":"function"},{"constant":false,"inputs":[{"name":"newOwner","type":"address"}],"name":"transferOwnership","outputs":[],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"nonpayable","type":"function"},{"constant":true,"inputs":[],"name":"token","outputs":[{"name":"","type":"address"}],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"view","type":"function"},{"inputs":[{"name":"_token","type":"address"},{"name":"_teamWallet","type":"address"},{"name":"_startTime","type":"uint256"}],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"nonpayable","type":"constructor"},{"payable":true,"stateMutability":"payable","type":"fallback"},{"anonymous":false,"inputs":[{"indexed":false,"name":"receiver","type":"address"},{"indexed":false,"name":"amount","type":"uint256"}],"name":"Claimed","type":"event"}]


3) Activating the contract on behalf of address (address of party bounty) performing the method claimReward().

4) Please note that the contract is available to obtain tokens SNTR for 13 days, including today.



In conclusion, I want to thank the participants in the bounty for your patience!

Note that despite the fact that we failed to raise the softcap in the framework of earlier conducted the TSO and the bounty we have no obligations to participants, We tried to accrue a bounty from the share of teams.

Thank you for our support! Good luck!


As am not so familiar interacting with contracts in ethereum, i followed carefully all steps as provided by a helper here:

I decided to do this since I saw several members posting that they still haven't claimed their coins and there's still no clear step by step instructions. The given one might be unclear to those first timers to use the contract.

Note: This is for MEW users.

STEP 1: Go to www.myetherwallet.com

https://i.imgur.com/2EFeYvi.png


STEP 2: Click Contracts (https://www.myetherwallet.com/#contracts) tab

https://i.imgur.com/XZD8YkL.png


STEP 3: Put the Contract Address and ABI given by @Sythyn HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2016468.msg23483477#msg23483477) in their correct place in MEW then Click ACCESS

1) To add to the wallet address of the contract bounty:
Code:
0x3d05317111A96a1a6aBF31e07B0CfA33173a19AA
2) Add ABI
Code:
[{"constant":true,"inputs":[],"name":"DURATION","outputs":[{"name":"","type":"uint256"}],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"view","type":"function"},{"constant":true,"inputs":[{"name":"","type":"uint256"}],"name":"collectedAddresses","outputs":[{"name":"","type":"address"}],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"view","type":"function"},{"constant":false,"inputs":[{"name":"receiver","type":"address"},{"name":"tokenAmount","type":"uint256"}],"name":"importReward","outputs":[],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"nonpayable","type":"function"},{"constant":true,"inputs":[],"name":"teamWallet","outputs":[{"name":"","type":"address"}],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"view","type":"function"},{"constant":true,"inputs":[{"name":"","type":"address"}],"name":"bountyRewards","outputs":[{"name":"","type":"uint256"}],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"view","type":"function"},{"constant":true,"inputs":[],"name":"collectedAddressesCount","outputs":[{"name":"","type":"uint256"}],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"view","type":"function"},{"constant":true,"inputs":[],"name":"startTime","outputs":[{"name":"","type":"uint256"}],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"view","type":"function"},{"constant":false,"inputs":[],"name":"withdrawRemainder","outputs":[],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"nonpayable","type":"function"},{"constant":false,"inputs":[{"name":"receiver","type":"address"}],"name":"clearReward","outputs":[],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"nonpayable","type":"function"},{"constant":true,"inputs":[],"name":"owner","outputs":[{"name":"","type":"address"}],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"view","type":"function"},{"constant":false,"inputs":[],"name":"claimReward","outputs":[],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"nonpayable","type":"function"},{"constant":false,"inputs":[{"name":"newOwner","type":"address"}],"name":"transferOwnership","outputs":[],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"nonpayable","type":"function"},{"constant":true,"inputs":[],"name":"token","outputs":[{"name":"","type":"address"}],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"view","type":"function"},{"inputs":[{"name":"_token","type":"address"},{"name":"_teamWallet","type":"address"},{"name":"_startTime","type":"uint256"}],"payable":false,"stateMutability":"nonpayable","type":"constructor"},{"payable":true,"stateMutability":"payable","type":"fallback"},{"anonymous":false,"inputs":[{"indexed":false,"name":"receiver","type":"address"},{"indexed":false,"name":"amount","type":"uint256"}],"name":"Claimed","type":"event"}]

https://i.imgur.com/s61BmHx.png


STEP 4: Click "Select a Function" and choose "claimReward"
STEP 5: Unlock your wallet in anyway you prefer then click WRITE

https://i.imgur.com/5cCoc73.png


STEP 6: In my case, Amount to Send ( 0 ) --- and --- the default Gas Limit ( 140650 ) [I edited the image to show how it looks like when I claimed]
NOTE: As far as I know it won't be a success if your Gas limit is -1 . You should put enough Gas, you're able to edit that Gas Limit

https://i.imgur.com/zIAjVCi.png


STEP 7: Click Generate Transaction
STEP 8: You'll see another pop up page. Confirm that you're sure of making the transaction.

NOTE: You should have eth in your wallet to pay for the fee


Good luck!

My wallet address is in that contract and shown with the number of my tokens. After finishing all steps,and set the gas limit at 140650, it shows a message that i should have 0.01 eth in my balance to cover the fees despite i have 0.112 in my wallet. here is my wallet address if anyone will to make a further understanding of the situation: 0xe75dC7Ec9DDc2928A4AF459a61417F553F85AC7F

Unhopefully, there is no much help understanding ethereum all over the network.


Title: Re: Gas fee?
Post by: freebutcaged on October 31, 2017, 06:19:57 PM
I think you are fucked mate, you participated in a bounty program of a failed project and now in order to claim your so called bounty tokens you will

Have to spend more than what you could normally get from that bounty if it was successful, they even said that, they're paying the participants with

Their own team's token. I don't know what's with all of this complexity of smart contracts? their need for people to have Eth on their wallets seems

To never end.


Title: Re: Gas fee?
Post by: rafajunior99 on October 31, 2017, 06:40:55 PM
How to do if i dont have gas on my wallet?
What is the required eth for me to deposit my token to the etherdelta?

and who is a good human that will let me borrow the required eth for me to withdraw the token that ive earned
You need sent some ETH to wallet you want to add etherdelta ( about 0.1 ETH as your GAS fee)
And then you can make a contract with etherdelta to buy and sell your coin1

Maybe you are right for that, but they should have more than that to get out sending tokens, if inside their ETH wallet is only 0.1 maybe it will not be able to get out, because Gas limit to send it.


Title: Re: Gas fee?
Post by: surfinonmyownwavebaby on October 31, 2017, 06:47:46 PM
It wont work, you can set your gas price or fee in the top right corner. I find having more than 10 gwei helps whereas less than that probably is slow unless you are willing to wait it.