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Moneypot Thread

This will serve as Moneypot's new thread.  It will focus on announcements and developments of Moneypot.  Off-topic or trolling posts will be ignored or may even be deleted.  All JPR posts will be deleted to keep thread clean.

A few announcements:

Support/Communication:

The official and main contact for support will be by e-mail at Support@Moneypot.com.  We have taken new measures to attend to support tickets more promptly and assist those in need with much faster communication.   All official posts going forward will be made by the 'Moneypot' bitcointalk account.  Please direct support issues and questions to e-mail to keep the thread clean.

Rubies:

Rubies 2 will be featured on Moneypot as a wallet first (introduced in a few days) and as a bettable and house bankroll crypto-currency (a few days after when wallet has been thoroughly tested).  Moneypot will not be accepting Rubies (Rbies), however will help in the trading of a Rubies to Rubies 2 swap at a 1:1 ratio, where the original Rubies will be burned.  For an indefinite time, there will be no floor for Rubies or Rubies 2, but this may change in the future.  The proposed dividend payment for Rubies 2, from the community house bankroll, is still in effect.

Apps:

Moneypot apps are no longer publicly open.  Apps will be approved and must meet certain criteria to be featured.  Moneypot will be severely cutting down on the apps made available.  Only those apps with Version 2 end points will work.  This will allow Moneypot to spend more attention and better effort on a small stable of solid apps.  If you are interested in transitioning or being involved, please contact us at Support@Moneypot.com.

ICO Partnership:

We encountered a few problems with the partnership for the ICO, leading to its cancellation.  The MPX team has refunded the majority of deposits made.  If you have not yet received your refund, please e-mail Support@Moneypot.com so that it can be arranged.

V2 Options and Features:

Heavy maintenance is still underway.  All features will be made available as soon as we can based on time and development hours.  Moneypot admits that it has not been as fast as we have expected or like and apologize for any inconvenience that it has caused in the meantime.  Moneypot will continue to work hard to get features out as fast as it can based on priority.

In closing, we realize that we have been temporarily set back from making some advances.  Moneypot wants to reassure you that there are many planned features and improvements being worked on constantly to bring Moneypot back to an industry leader.


***Update***

Moneypot has been acquired by Monster Byte: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2345394.msg27369639#msg27369639 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2345394.msg27369639#msg27369639)

I am curious with your statement about the ICO. You cancelled it because there was a problem with a partner or whatever, or did you cancel it due to lack of interest from the community? I read somewhere that if there was not a lot of investors you would not cancel, (I'll find the post), but in the end moneypot cancelled the ICO which I think was because there was just about 7 btc in investments and the ICO was about to end already.

Some people were waiting to invest, especially because of the how the structure was set up, but there were a couple external things happening that both prohibited the success and the completion of the ICO. 

And you will not provide a short grace period for current ruby holders to sell at your earlier promised price floor?

I don't really understand how you could make a promise to hold a price floor (and literally even quote the dictionary definition of "always"). As you know, people made investing and arbitrage decisions based on your price-floor promise  and you're now pulling the rug from everyone. I'm struggling to come up with a more charitable interpretation then you're effectively scamming all ruby holders.

And if you are indeed solvent, than I think you would do yourselves a huge favor by demonstrating this (either publicly, or to a trusted person like dooglus) of proof of assets and quantifying your liabilities (which include promises made liked fixed investing returns and compensation promise made last year to investors ). If you are not solvent, you should be looking to return as much money as possible to your creditors. Or at the very least, issue a debt-based token like bitfinex did

It was admittedly a mistake by one of the Moneypot members to make that announcement regarding Rubies.  Realizing this, Moneypot will not discuss many issues until it is finalized and checked out thoroughly.

Moneypot's main priority is to first ensure that the system can thrive as intended, so that the original believers and investors of the coin can benefit.  The floor was being abused heavily, which put that system in jeopardy.

We've discussed several methods to how to handle the previous investors promise best.  We cannot make any announcement or further comments on it until completely set.

allright., i am one of the campaign members of the moneypot, this ICO fails ,, it can not be a lot of investors that have an impact on the late payment on the members of the campaign .. and this goes pretty tough .. following payment for the token moneypot is changed into the form BTC. and we also wait again with a long time .. even I heard there are some who have not received payment

Well this went down like a lead balloon, think it deserves a bump so those affected can be reminded what is or more likely isn’t going on.

Rubies2 is being heavily worked on to come up as soon as we can.  The NXT wallet is being setup to allow multiple assets in the future proceeding Rubies2.


In addition to some new apps, there will be a few familiar apps that will be featuring V2 routes and betting sooner than later.  We ask app owners that you contact us soon if you wish to migrate. 


We can not comment on any outside issues or make any announcements until everything is solidified, but they will come when ready.  Moneypot continues to work hard to introduce new and improved developments.

Several app owners have asked for a sneak peak or limited access to the new App portal that is coming later this month. After talking with the crew, we decided it would be best to offer a sneak peak to our app owners and future app owners.

The new dashboard will offer the following functionality.
- Gaming Insights
- Wallet Functionality
- User Profiles
- User Advanced Features
- Direct User Transfers
- Buckets GUI
- Notifications
- Mobile Support
- App Notes
- And more!


Login
A seamless login that only allows app staff.



https://i.imgur.com/iB4AVrc.jpg



Dashboard

The dashboard will offer app owners coin specific stats over a 24 hour range. App owners will get a visual on profits, wagering action, and general usage information about their apps.



https://i.imgur.com/1M9zF1Q.png




Notfications

Notification will populate with important notifications from MoneyPot as well a future notification API endpoint for your app. That's right!; You will be able to send notifications directly from your app to the portal.



https://i.imgur.com/BHDcdCQ.png



Users
In the users section you can browse new and old app users and get various insights about them. You will also have the ability to control their access to your app!.



https://i.imgur.com/ZNQng4V.png

https://i.imgur.com/GDEmCzQ.png



Wallet
Each wallet has its own overview so you can control deposits and withdraws to and from your app. Insights will provide a monthly break down of app wallet data.



https://i.imgur.com/IPcMIrh.png



And that's all we are willing to showcase at the moment. As you can see MoneyPot has been hard at work cranking out new tools and features for our app owners and players. I'm excited for what the future has to offer! Questions?

Looks great CrazyCraig really well done.
It looks like Moneypot is back on track :)

I had an account on moneypot a few months ago with some balance on it. Why i can not enter?

I can go into my account but lost all my investments.

All investments are still there just the investment page is not live. We can provide details if you like. Pm me.

The new design is stunning :o

Just noticed a small typo on your contact page, i.e. https://www.moneypot.com/contact. U have mentioned your location as Historic Dinnen Building, which should be Historic Dineen Building.

You mean owners?

Anyway, I'm assuming you are talking about this:

https://i.imgur.com/3Th36rP.jpg

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1364104.msg17332404#msg17332404


This is in addition to numerous posts talking about the 1000 sat floor for Rubies that was guaranteed forever (I'm sure I can find several instances of that claim if you wish to refute it).  You can't offer a guarantee for something and then rescind it, especially when you are actively trying to sell something to the community.  That is disingenuous and underhanded.

I have quote this before it gets delect!

I was a big fan from moneypot but after you puplish v2 i havent spend any coins there.
I miss the players stats page and what is the biggest prob, the bet stats page! I'm very surprised that noone else say something about that!
You cant verification your bets atm. https://www.moneypot.com/bets/1245000000 only as example.

I m not happy with the way it goes :'(

There is a release going out this afternoon that will include these things.

This sounds more than great! I really miss my stats page and a few other thinks

I've cut a small feature release this afternoon. I have added the bet overview page as well as added recent bets back to the homepage. User overviews will follow later.

https://i.imgur.com/zwusMfg.png
https://i.imgur.com/7U8uQeH.png

Any feedback on bet overview?

I like the new look and feel... I am glad that you rolled out the bets summary page as well. It looks really good.

Can't wait for the app owner portal reporting and functions! I hope to gain access soon.

Keep up the good work Moneypot!

Hey Craig,
i have take a look over the stats page. First few looks are really good! Hope the Players stats page will follow soon.

Sure the V1 was for my easyer to understand on the end but this comes becouse i was working with that the last 2 years.

To bad there is a lot rumor behind the screens. I hope the best for the future becouse MP investors still hold a few "loans" from me :P

The stat page has all of the same information with the exception of it being grouped differently. If you have any suggestions, I may be opening to rearrange it so its easier to read.

We are pleased to announce that BetterBets.io (https://www.moneypot.com/apps/overview/14-betterbets) has migrated to Version 2 of our API and is once again playable. BetterBets supports both BTC and LTC.

We are also pleased to announce that BTCGames4U.com (https://www.moneypot.com/apps/overview/2691) has also migrated to Version 2. BTCGames4U supports BTC, LTC, and Dash.

Also, a reminder that I am available to offer migration assistance. I will be publishing updated API documentation in the near future.

User Profiles now live. Profile images sync by email from Gravatar.com (http://Gravatar.com)

Moneypot.com/users/helpmywallet (http://Moneypot.com/users/helpmywallet)

https://i.imgur.com/8HR97rG.png

A few nice updates lately Craig, i hope you contine with this good work so far.




Will this mean you will puplish a untitled dice script update?
Than i can update my app to i think ;). Havent check github lately for any new puplishings

Looking at its repository, the last change was made more than two years ago. I don't think untitled dice was ever officially provided by MoneyPot, though. It's just a cool project that someone generously open-sourced as far as I know.

There are no plans to update untitled dice yet. However I can assist in migration.

That's what I though maybe there was a purplish with the new v2 update from the original untitled script.
Btw if I m not wrong Ryan make the script at the time he was the owner from moneypot.

Do you guys think still you can gain investors confidence to invest money in your bankroll?

I will not do that mistake again instead ready to gamble that money.

V2 is already update and how about your rbies? Doea it got update too? Or it has been dumped? Sorry for asking this, I saw nothing from this update about the alt coin that you guys proud of from the start. Already check your site, it is really good design compare to the older one but still I want to ask if your investment program works? Since last time you guys have been negative although it has no affection for investor profit, I just wondering how it ends

We are experiencing a temporary outage. Services will be restored shortly.

Ah, that's why I can't access moneypot. I will be patient for it.

Services have been restored. Apologize for the downtime. We had a small hiccup in our primary load balance.

Can you check pending withdraws I have one small one pending.

Sorry your account was flagged as it was a new account. Your transaction has been processed.

So what happened to DogeDigital?`

I used moneypot for a long time and always kept some contact with him. I didn't pay too much attention to the ICO due to the state of most ICO's these days.

Glad to see that you are back on track though, a word of advice, skip the ICO and unreachable big dreams, you had/have a good thing going with the regular moneypot. Stick to what you know :).

It all looks very good!

Thank you.

I used to play at moneypot with no issues, fast and secure.

CrazyCraig Hello.

Why I can't recieve my withdraw 3 days already?
Where my 15000 bits?

Status always in "In_progress".
No money, no txid.

MoneyPot is died???

+1. JPR's own worst enemy is himself.

He's really "the boy who cried wolf". He went on a whole bunch of meritless rants and crusades, and established himself as an obnoxious troll. And now gets scammed for a considerable amount of money, and no one really cares about what he says.

 When a company stops honoring it's obligations, there is rarely a pretty ending.

So I don't mean it in a malicious way, but to anyone with money on the site -- I'd strongly recommending taking your money out ASAP.

My guess is they're probably already insolvent. And as I understand it they have made promises to refund investors this year (which less than a month remains) as well as things like this:


so I bet there's going to be a lot of tears this year.

  Hi I have sent email to support at moneypot but never get a response.  Im trying to get my account fixed but no reply, is this site trying scam.

Yes, I've recieved it today, 15000 bits.
Thanks.

And question, why withdrawal so long?

Is it a new account? As per post by CrazyCraig few week ago, someone also get pending withdrawal because it was a new account. Seems that all new accounts are flagged for withdrawal activity so MP need to do further check. But 3 days for just 15,000 bits is just too long IMO. It could be done in less than 24 hours. Gladly, you get it already while the bitcoin's price keeps increasing :)

I've been away from Moneypot for quite some time now. After all those scam accusations that you got in the past, I'm glad that you came back strong. I just visited your website and it looks good for my own taste. I didn't check if all the links are working but the main ones are fine. Just wondering here if my old login details will work on your new site? That would be awesome if that will be the case.  ;D

Yes, I have a new account.

API will be down for updates at some point this afternoon.

 Hi Craig,  sent you a pm earlier are you gonna take care of my issue?

There is a button write "Support" . I think you should press at it and write a ticket.

I am still working it.

Can MoneyPot please check the withdrawals, they are stuck in "in_progress".

I just created an account, but I don't see any option to invest, just it being mentioned at the FAQ.

Sent

I have a withdrawal that has been in progress for nearly 2 weeks now. I have notified MP about it several times now but it is still pending. Can anyone give me an ETA for when it will be processed?

It is probably because of the high fee situation. Anyways, you shouldn't worry because this is a professional company. Just have patience, and you will get your money back. ;)

Hey bro, I suggest you give them more info if you are serious about getting your moeny back. You must realize companies like this are very busy and they will not go out of their way to help you without substantial proof that you are telling the truth.

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:
Scheduled for over the next 2 months:

Investments will be auto-divested sometime in the very near future.  Unless you have a previously made arrangement or make an arrangement via e-mail and you are invested, you will be automatically divested.  Cashouts will then be handled in phases in short periods of time to allow customers to fully withdraw.
The maximum win will be temporarily restricted to .025 BTC.  This will allow Moneypot to handle the divesting of investments much easier.  The maximum win will be raised again when a new system is in place.  More details on that to come later.

The support team has been shuffled around this past month.  We are working towards having a more dedicated and quicker responding team going forward.  The official contact point still remains Support@Moneypot.com.

Debt tokens from the previous year announcement will be released through a Waves based token.  Moneypot will announce when all calculations have been made.  Shortly in the future you can log-in to your acccount and opt-in to receive your debt token to a Waves wallet where buy orders will be made on the Waves decentralized exchange over time.

Rubies 2 (R2B2) is still scheduled to be featured as previously planned.  There were some technical barriers and direction issues with the new upcoming Ardor main-net, but these are being resolved.  It is Moneypot's hope that R2B2 becomes successful to the point it can function as originally visioned.

All non-approved apps will no longer be accessible.  If you are interested in making a compatible Moneypot app, please contact and apply at Support@Moneypot.com.  There may be an option for old apps to live again on another instance.  More details on that to come later.

The entire Moneypot brand and system is preparing for a rebuilding and transition to a better future.  We believe you will not be disappointed in 2018.

Never heard about moneypot.
It looks cool, not a big risk, I guess.

This is something that previous investor would like to hear. Well with this now ,I guess we wont see alot of people that want to cash out from the site and leave only investor that believe in this project. Still hoping for the R2B2 as well, the new ardor platform is going to be a huge blast in this case especially with their new ignis and stuff

This is a great news!!! I am looking forward to see Moneypot with a full options.

When app owner can expect document about the new v2 API?

This is awesome! Really some great news to prove that your head is in the right place even after all the shit that went down.

I for one can't wait to see what's about to happen and I'm sure customers as well as investors won't be dissappointed!

Keep up the good work :)

Glad to see movement from MP, let's see how this plays out. Not a bunch of experience with them but would like to do more in the the future, been holding back based on recent events. I like that an announcement has been made and steps to move forward seem to be the plan so lets  
where it goes...  :-\

Are all our funds safe ?

what you mean by "debt tokens" how does that work?

Still not processed

We have sent Personal Messages to a few members to help clear up issues or questions they may have had.

A few posts have been deleted to clean up the thread.  Please keep the thread clear of personal drama.


The Moneypot site and many others like it always carry big risks.  Please inform yourself on the possibilities and do not hesitate to ask us questions so that we may clarify and inform you the best we can.


Please use Support@Moneypot.com as the official contact of Support.


Investing has been publicly disabled for a few months now.  We will be updating the FAQ and terms shortly to reflect all changes.


The 'debt tokens' are specifically for the old investor compensations.  They do not apply to any current balances.  

Once calculations are made for the old compensations, we will let people know that they can opt-in, set a Waves address, and then be sent a Waves token that they can then sell on the Waves Decentralized Exchange where the token will be bought from a percentage of income made from Moneypot.  All tokens purchased by Moneypot will then be burned.

The maximum win will be temporarily restricted to .025 BTC

as far as I know the Bank Roll is about 320 BTC

with a risk of 1% of the Bank Roll and .025 max win IMO the Bank Roll of yours is 2.5 BTC hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

please dont forget to delete this heavy attack LOL

As much as I don't get along with JPR I have to agree with him on some things. I do not think he is asking too much for you guys to provide evidence as to your solvency. Whether it be public or to a couple trusted members who will verify the funds in this thread, it's not asking much.

You've been sorta dodging the question for awhile now.

anyway Congrats to the nice win. well done

My post was removed yet had no "personal drama".  In fact, my post started with me condemning the "personal drama".

Anyway, I don't think that it's good to answer public questions privately.  Thats how scams happen.  My question was pretty simple...why did you create an artificial floor for rubies, guaranteeing it's minimum value, and then rip that away randomly, causing it's value to plummet?  And what protections do your customers have from you pulling a similar stunt in the future?

 

So you are out of money and ask people to accept "debt tokens" instead of btc? After the guy ask for 103 btc that u had to pay out 1 december ? You are running a fractional reserve casino?   

i think he would open up more if jpr wasn't going to respond like he does to every mp employee posts.




BTW congrats on 25 btc on bustadice. i love that site.

Floor holds so long who promise it have money. Thats why it always will break. I had 30% of rubies and thank god for he put up floor so i could sell all to him for a nice profit.

No, they are giving debt tokens to easily store how much each person is owed from the losses they promised to repay. This allows people to cashout early if they'd like by selling to others on the open market, allows Moneypot to easily buyback by just placing a buy order, and they can't just say that you weren't owed money after they distributed tokens. This is very similar to what Bitfinex did after the famous hack that happened in the summer. I don't expect them to repay all the losses at one time, and they did say that future profits would be used to fund the repayments.

please name those MP employees who are posting here? maybe you are one of those employees? I know Dexon for example but he is not posting here.

on the other hand why do you think is MP not proving solvency? RHavar,yahoo and me are saying it would be easy to prove solvency

I haven't been following MP for a while. What happened that caused MP to promise to repay certain investors?

ok, thanks for the information

Did you even read the post? ;_;
Max win will be down to that low during the transition
A transition
So, you turn down the max bet so if something goes wrong, it's not expensive
Pretty normal
So please, get off this thread "brown nosed boy"

Pending Transactions were cleared yesterday.  We are still transitioning and the official contact point is Support@Moneypot.com.  Please do not use Discord anymore.

The 'Debt Tokens' are NOT for the current balances.  They are for the compensation that was offered approximately a year ago to help recoup investor losses (as it tumbled quite quickly).  

There were no requirements to receive and it was to be an expense out of Moneypot's pocket.  The 'Debt tokens' now allow to get paid quicker and easier through Moneypot income, which was always stated.  Previous investors only stand to benefit from these actions.  No one was scammed by it.

The available current investor balances are being divested and will be available to be withdrawn over the next 2 months.

We are trying to make this thread as clean as possible (we removed more posts today but quoted them while doing so).

We had explained why we removed your post.  In the personal message, we explained that you were more than welcome to re-post the questions about Rubies/R2B2.

The artificial floor was created for Rubies to help support the network and maintain a model that would let a Rubies/R2B2 bankroll on Moneypot flourish. 

Coins that were swapped from Rubies to R2B2 were burned and Moneypot did not sell any Rubies.

Rubies/R2B2 was unexpectedly delayed and meanwhile many individuals took advantage and profited greatly off the floor model causing Moneypot to put it on hold indefinitely. 

Risk is always present in every crypto business. 

R2B2 is still being worked on and the aim is to still support the network as originally planned.

Why my post get deleted? You didnt get wd done, and people complain and u want delete what they told? Delete people who disagree with you? So u delete if someone speak truth, if u disagree with them?  And call it "to make thread clean"? then u can delete all comments ever when u have read it, then its very clean thread with no comments.

The withdrawals were done.  They were delayed and it was quoted to show record, but the posts were deleted to keep the thread clean. 

We also didn't want confusion between the debt tokens and current investment balances.  We are not asking people to accept 'debt tokens' instead of Bitcoin as your post indicated.  We are providing a system for users to be compensated for the previous commitment made earlier in the year.

Can you please provide more details about clean thread?

This is a thread to discuss all good and bad things about the service you provide to people. Not just to keep only good things about your service.

You just need to ignore those posts which you thing no need to provide clarification but by deleting posts which gives a wrong image about your service.

This approach was tried in the past several times and did not work. 

We do not censor, but we will keep things on topic and avoid drama whenever possible.

We do our best to find the best solutions to everything.  However, we are not perfect and we make mistakes.  People are welcome to comment on them to a point. 

Moneypot, please check my withdraw 32,300 bits. He is stack in the status "In_progress".

Thanks, withdraw recieved.

Moneypot hello.

My withdraw again is stuck, 67510 bits.
Please check this...

Does MP no longer have an automated withdraw system?

Reading through this thread it doesn't seem like they do, hopefully it is something they are working on. As automated withdraw systems are pretty much key for a successful operation these days when it comes to casinos I can't imagine that they wouldn't want to take care of that first, let's give it a bit of time :).

That's foolish thinking.

The question I'm asking them, obviously, is WHY is it taking days for withdraws to be processed.

Is it foolish thinking for me to believe that they are working on it? I'm pretty sure you've answered your own question so for you to continuing to ask WHY seems to be the only foolish thinking in this thread. But it is always easy for people to just judge without knowing the full story.. I could probably make a post in this thread saying "Moneypot didn't pay me my 15 BTC this is outrageous" and you'd get on it before even verifying the situation, right?

What are you talking about?  I'm literally asking them to explain the situation.

Thanks Moneypot!
Withdraw 67510 bits recieved.

That's great, I still believe we'd like to get an answer on the automated withdraw issue. Well to me it's not really an issue right now as you have recently undergone some big changes and I'm sure it is on the agenda.

Nice to see that these things are quickly resolved though! Keep up the good work :).

You may see this as semantics, but I don't see a 1.5 day wait to withdraw money as a "quick resolution".  If it's going to take longer than an hour or two the players should really be warned. 

Still waiting on a response from MP on this topic.  The lack of communication is disturbing.

The wallet still is automated, but with the high fees, we felt it necessary to keep the hot wallet low so we don't end up paying 2-3x times the outgoing transaction in fees in some cases.  There have been several withdrawals lately (due to the announcements, upcoming fork, and holiday season).

We also have database management in preparation for the new year and staff was given some time off for the holidays.  Expect a much smoother experience past this fork and going forward.

.03BTC and .06BTC are still really low amounts.  How low is the hot wallet?  Why are withdraws taking multiple days to process?  Do you think that it's needed to alert people that withdraws are going to take an extended period of time?

The hot wallet has been much lower than normal for the reasons listed above. 

Are players warned that their withdraws won't be processed for many days?  If not, don't you think they should be?

Only the one individual was affected and they expected delays.  It was bad timing and shouldn't happen again.  Meanwhile there are other sites not crediting deposits for up to 4 days and experiencing cashout delays constantly.

That's a bad example.  Betcoin just stole 43 coins from it's players, are you saying that it's ok for you to do something similar?  Of course not.  Don't compare yourself to others when it comes to how bad things could be, compare yourself to others for how good you aspire to be.

But so everyone is clear, how long should people expect to wait for a withdraw from Moneypot currently?

Is coinpot a dice site part of moneypot?

We were merely suggesting that other sites get busy around the holidays and coupled with other moves we are making caused some complications.  As mentioned previously, you can expect a much smoother experience past this fork and going forward.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

You still haven't answered my question.

Currently, how long should people expect to wait for a withdraw from Moneypot?

For now, unless it's a big amount that exceeds our hot wallet, it should be instant.  If not, it can take a few hours depending on block times or sleep schedules of staff.

Your running casino site and you don't have a support team to help players around the clock and you can't estimate how much you need to fill up your hot wallet in advance? Because I saw in this thread many people mentioned their withdrawals were pending for quite some time.

Sadly, we do not have 24/7 support at this time.  There were some complications in the past, but those are clear now.  It is not wise from a security or financial stand point to keep our hot wallet an excessive amount.

Players should have no troubles from this point forward making their withdrawals.

And do you still consider .03BTC to be a "big amount"?

Scammers. No accrual on the balance. After the complaints and the presentation of screenshots, I returned winnings. But I managed to notice, but other players who did not notice you steal  https://pastenow.ru/2G6Q7
   

That was a graphical error on the app OkBets.io.  While, they used the Moneypot API, We do not have full control over that site.  We also credited your account when it happened weeks ago as a kind gesture.  

Yes, I enlisted, I spent the whole day, that you would give my winnings.It was not a graphic error.I updated the page 10 times, and there was no balance. You constantly have mistakes, they are all for some reason in your favor. There were no mistakes in favor of the players. You had to pay me for finding an error, but you did not pay. You deceived the users again. I lost your little purse, I wrote to you, but you did not even answer. You constantly open new topics on the forum so that other users do not see these complaints to your scammers that were before. Investors complained to the owner of the casino itself, playing with an unlimited balance of bitcoins, and doing a minus to investors, you said that he has the right to do it, since he is a player of the same kind))))

The owner of that site did not have unlimited Bitcoins.  Apps on Moneypot do not have admin options.  They operate through Moneypot's API.  If an app owner plays on their own site, they are taking the same amount of risk that any other player would and do not have any access to server seeds.

While we strive to overlook and help maintain apps within our network, we do not have full control over the app.  I believe this instance was a slight oversight. However, we can personally vouch for the owner of the app in question (OkBets.io) and believe he is definitely not a scammer.

Moneypot will be going down for maintainence and updates at 11pm est. During this time all services will remain closed until our maintainence event concludes.

Maintenance is still ongoing as we prepare for a new transition. We will keep you updated in this thread.

How long will it take until the maintenance is done?
Afaik you guys always do the maintenance but there is nothing good to be done. And btw how about your rbies coin? How it goes? Or is there no more rbies on the market and people dumped it for good? Please give some good explanation on it

The site will be back online this evening. Good things are coming.

As always you guys are keep on avoiding about rbies questions, why was that? What is the promise that you guys make about rbies?
if i remember it correctly, you guys said that rbies are going to be active again for your v2 moneypot. And now you guys already have this v2 and what about rbies? What are you guys gonna do with it?

Thanks for your question Erza.

As mentioned earlier in the month, "Rubies 2 (R2B2) is still scheduled to be featured as previously planned.  There were some technical barriers and direction issues with the new upcoming Ardor main-net, but these are being resolved.  It is Moneypot's hope that R2B2 becomes successful to the point it can function as originally visioned.".

R2B2 will still be launched as a bettable and house bankroll.  There will still be a community house bankroll and dividends paid through the NXT asset dividend system.  Rubies will still be able to be burned and transferred into R2B2.  There is still no floor at the moment, but it is our hope that the system works well enough to bring it back in the future if possible.

  So this is MP way of running away with there tail between there legs. After screwing countless people over.  I have been asking for over a month  to get help with my password since the last update  and all you people say is the one you send me works, even though I show you screenshots and a video how it does not work.  You have cost me hundreds of dollars by not allowing me access to my account.  That’s ok as next week I will be visiting Keith’s area on business, then maybe I will be able to get access to my funds then.

You were never denied access to your account and you will and always were going to get your funds.  Your password reset has worked and there has been no other reports of password resets not working. We have been assisting you to try and get it resolved.  Please do not make any threats to people working with us.  


There is and never was an issue for you to access your funds.  The site hasn't had any problems with the password reset. For some reason, you seem to have difficulties.  Your temporary password reset works.  I have deleted your post but quoted here to keep the thread clean.



I can assure you that there are no plans to do that.  We were aware of your password problem and we are trying to assist you over several e-mails.  It works on our side.  Let's take this to PM and I'll try to get it straightened up for you immediately.

We believe this move helps all parties involved.  It was made very clear from early talks that if this deal were to go through, it would allow for the Moneypot team to make good as best as they could on the things put forth throughout the years.

Now that it's sealed, we look forward to picking up this solid product and catapulting it back into one of the industry's leading sites and all those involved.

Maintenance will finish up tomorrow morning Eastern Time Zone.

Betting will resume shortly after being brought back live. 

Investments have already been divested and users with available balances will be able to make a withdrawal request or transfer funds shortly.  Please give us a brief period of time to make the investment portal open to access these balances.

If you have an account that needs a password reset and/or 2FA reset, please write to Support@Moneypot.com so that we may verify your account and help you regain access.

The bankroll for the time being will start off with roughly 2.5 BTC with a max win of .01 BTC at 1% House edge.  An address of the new house bankroll funds will be signed and posted in this thread to show proof of reserves.

So this aqusition by monsterbyte is big sine now they can just use their own tokens/alt coins to fuel these casinos now.
Correct?
Expect the value of their coins to surge on the exchanges they are on in the next few weeks.

Yes, we do plan on supporting Waves tokens in Money Pot - including MBI!

Two of the oldest names in Bitcoin gambling have now joined forces, who says the crypto gambling scene isn't still full or surprises eh? MP (through an API) was my very first introduction to using microbetting with satoshi, dice, and I still have good friendships from some of the sites using MP bankroll. Hope this significant news will signal a revival for some of those casinos, expect MBI tokens to get a boost in demand over the next few months even (it pays holders dividends) once word gets out.

Bitcoin is still great, but very good to see alts coming into the scene, especially for the sportsbook. Great start to the year, well done MP and MB!

Currently experiencing a database transfer stall.  We will have this resolved soon and be back up as soon as we can.  Thank you for your patience.

That's a shocker  ::)

Anything that MonsterByte (Bitcoinrush) becomes a part of tends to be faulty and not on time.  
Wouldn't expect anything else from these dopes.

I for one think that this is a great move! It'll surely help you guys out in figuring everything out when it comes to tokens and future plans. Depending on how this acquisition was done and with what sort of deal I only see good things coming from it. Keep up the work and time will tell if it was the correct move or not, I still have confidence in you guys :).

Pages are back up now with a new instance.  We will be making html edits and updates of terms, faq, and contact info throughout the next few days.

Many items are still being updated and migrated over for a fresh start.  Expect some hiccups if you attempt to visit right now.

The old site with balances will be up tomorrow and the support team will assist you in either transferring over to the new instance or withdrawing. 

We will keep you updated in this thread and on twitter.

Looking forward to see what comes out of the merger. Do you have an ETA of when public bankroll investing will be available again? Also, MonsterByte, how do you plan on changing/adding to moneypot? You mentioned that you have ideas, so it would be interesting to have a teaser of future changes. Are you going to allow direct transfers between Moneypot and BitcoinRush any time soon?

Any plans to allow individual apps to access sportsbetting that's available on MonsterByte? Probably wouldn't be that profitable for you but it would be nice to have some better GUIs for the sportsbook.

We really want to do the public bankroll the right way from the start following the Crypto Gambling Foundation guidelines.  We don't want to rush it and will aim to improve it as we go along.  At this time, we don't have any plans for individual apps with sportsbetting access, but you never know.

We have plenty up our sleeves, but we can not get ahead of ourselves.  There is still a lot of work to do. One thing you can count on sometime in the future however is a bridge between Moneypot and BitcoinRush.  We want to create a seamless way for sportsbettors to play more casino games and vice versa.



 

When can we expect all v2 options to be available? About app owner pages/portal and documentation.

Also what happened to betting history and player balance?

What is MBI? Is that the official crypto/trading symbol for monsterbyte's token perhaps?
If it is then what exchange are they on so we are able to get some before the merger has been finalized and the API has been implemented on the site's platform?

You heard of their name before, they are known more for the team behind bitcoinrush and peerbet. They are one of the oldest bitcoin gambling site to date and yes they have their own token. You can check more about it here

https://monsterbyte.io/

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monster-byte/#markets

This good news is going to boost their popularity soon and of course the token price might be slightly getting up as well soon

Thanks for chiming in oHnK!

Correct, MBI is currently 'tradeable' on the Waves DEX, albeit with extremely low liquidity (based on various reason, mainly the Waves DEX). We've been pursuing to get listed on other exchanges since our ICO, and we still have not given up that goal. More to come on this in our quarterly report which will be published before the end of the month.

Shortly, we will be soliciting some feedback on features you as players, or App owners, would most be looking for ahead of that time. After consolidating that feedback, we will be publishing a consolidated 2018 roadmap later this month

We are extremely excited about the MP merger, and really look forward to continue to advance the MoneyPot product and brand!

Interesting to hear about this directly from the creator of the site that is MBI.
Thanks for clarify this with me.
And yes, I do use waves and was wondering what else they have in store with that platform and now I see they have made something that would be useful for me to use and contribute too.
Thank you for the insight on this project as well. And you too OHnK! ;D
And I do agree. The token value will surely increase with more availability to them and the lower cost of being able to use them on the WAVES platform to transfer them to the casinos so the players can use them for their intention.
Win win for all involved! 8)

Interesting. So Monster Byte is now going to be responsible for MoneyPot's liabilities? Are they going to outright pay the debt to previous investors and ruby holders, or is the plan to use "debt tokens" still in effect?

They didnt give much info on investor debt,  just the last linefrom the quote

Yes of course its a pleasure, this is one of the biggest thing that happen in our gambling community. Sooner or later MBI should be traded in some exchanger but it doesnt really matter at this point. Im just wondering if the teams behind moneypot are now still the same? or the old team of MP is totally replaced by MBI team?

This is looking good so far, although it takes a lot of time waiting...
Looking forward to all this start to work! :)
Good luck!

Is this URL correct? Site still does not work.

Please try again. Also we will be releasing balances in increments. So please check back again too.

No, the deal that was made with Monster Byte is that the old MoneyPot team would still be held accountable and settle any liabilities such as debt to previous investors and Rubies tokens themselves.

Right now our focus is getting the new instance of MoneyPot setup, and existing players and investors balances properly taken care of per the update above.

A published plan on how the team will handle the previous investor debt and Rubies tokens will be published next week.

The current bankroll at the moment started with 1 Bitcoin.

After the dust settles and we successfully transfer balances over, we will start contributing more to the house bankroll.  Proof of reserves will be displayed for verification.

withdraw.moneypot.com and withdrawal.moneypot.com both work for the migration site to transfer balances over.

If you are running into any troubles transferring, please first try pressing CTRL + F5 or clearing your browser cache and try again. 

I'm waiting for JPR reply  :o or was his Post already delect?
I know a lot peoples don't like him but from time to time he spoke out what only a few thought

Succesfuly migrated all my coins from old to the new MoneyPot. Thanks :)

@B_UN1T
my postings were deleted. but if you have any specific questions please ask and I will answer here and in case it is deleted I have an alternative moneypot discussion thread open

May I know why you posted three comments one after the other yesterday here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2345394.msg27537464#msg27537464

If no one replied to your above post you can edit your above post to add in new information. Is it done purposely to bring up your thread or any other reason?

If I'm not wrong bumping more than once in 24 hours is not allowed.

Hey Guys,

When can I desinvest? How is it done? When I log in I do not see my balance anymore?
Yours
M

What do you mean desinvest? Get your investment back or what? I'd just stay tuned for a little while as they'll surely update everyone on any progress made. I know there's been questions about Monster Byte as a company but I think they'll bring good things to MP.

Read the announcement(post #143)! your invested balance will be available for withdrawal or re-investment on sunday.

Damn another Moneypot acquisition..
Good luck though

Did MP even ever publish how much would be paid back to investors who lost money?

please name the  pre-MonsterByte Moneypot team

This is great. I always thought that you were one of the most competent people running the show dogedigital! I have nothing but faith and high hopes for what is to come and it is nice knowing that you'll be there watching and making sure that everything will be fine. Any chance you'll stick around after they have taken it all over?

what I want to tell? I want to tell please if you are updeiting/planning updeiting, or do some kind of work with servers, please let know it in public, and close betting everywhere!

its hurts much, if you are betting, and are in "long loosing streak" when bets are big and putted money in are big, and every second bet you can get back all "putted in money" and disconnect occurs...

it's really sucks, last 3days I get some kind of 30+ dc's.



and another question, you are planning something to do with betting speed? half year ago, till moneypot update to v2 in bit-exo was been not bad speed for small amount, now its decreased 2x-3x times.

As far as I know, moneypot never intended to pay the investors instead they are giving some new bankroll system which guarantee investors profit but in the end they keep on losing it. I do not knoe after some merger with monster byte, how things going right now. And btw they are missing so many things that they promised before, its just seems they can barely make it happens

Who was it that made the promise of a permanent floor on the price of rubies? Was that the previous MoneyPot team as a whole, or one specific individual? It seems to me like some entity has shown themselves to be entirely untrustworthy over that incident, but it's unclear who it was.

Have Monster Byte assumed responsibility for losses incurred due to the broken promise? Or does that remain with the old team, or a specific member of that team?

i see that you dont understand anything what im saying!



WHY YOU CAN'T CLOSE BETTING IF YOU ALL TIME SOMETHING DOING WITH SERVERS? PLEASE CLOSE BETTING AND THEN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT!


im just so tired of losing money(coins) because of server disconnects.


where is this new "cool monesterbyte" owners, why they are not reading forum, and dont do anything?!

May I ask what you are referring to? We are not doing anything with servers other than refining and scaling when needed.

All of our infrastructure changes were done sometime ago. We have had a small DDOS a couple times but we have worked through them. Our load averages are far below normal and our monitoring services have not alerted us to any issues.


In the rare case of a disconnect the transaction would fail. You wouldn't lose you money. Your bet hash wouldn't even change unless the app you are playing on requests a new one.

at the moment @ bit-exo i was disconnected from all my 4 accounts, can connect back with only one from all other, and now this one are betting with speed of 1 bet in 2-3seconds.

every 24hours, i had more than 10+ disconnects from bitexo, and need to be logged off and logedin back to continue play.

simple i dont understand its bitexo fault or moneypot fault!

Playing with more than one account on a single browser may cause issues with cookies and sessions depending on how bit exo handles them.

Have you checked your own connection?

im not playing with browser at all. dicebot ofc.

and i was betting more than one site at same time, problems are only with bitexo/moneypot.

my country and i have one of the top connection in world, my small little shitty country has one plus, we have very good internet.

problems with bitexo are half year long time.

So theres four possible variables here, it could be you, dicebot, bit-eco, or moneypot. Ill tell you what, Ill add another api server to our cluster and you let me know if it improves.

i see that now betting is open yeah, and i can tell, that there is no four variable, its only two its bitexo or moneypot, you can trust me, i know what im saying.

you can find another people with same issue in bitexo chat, peeple who are regular playing there from dicebot 24/7, ask Aragorn, tripleseven.

if you want i can assist you, and inform about what kind of bugs and problems there are.

API DOCS https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1737934.msg21557119#msg21557119

I totally agree!!! Also what he said about betspeed. I've asked Moneypot month's ago if they would increase betspeed again and they said yes but it didn't happen

I am working to investigate and address the issue.

We have made several changes that has increased performance significantly.

Is it stupid reasoning for me to trust that they are dealing with it? I'm almost certain you've addressed your own particular inquiry so for you to proceeding to inquire as to WHY is by all accounts the main stupid reasoning in this string. In any case, it is constantly simple for individuals to simply judge without knowing the full story.

How much for it? :P
Also, if someone buys it then does it mean that you won't be whining on this thread anymore?

It looks like my question was missed so I'm reposting it.

I saw you announce it, but I'm asking which entity actually made the promise, if any. Was it you, acting on behalf of MoneyPot? Or were you saying stuff that wasn't actually MoneyPot policy?

It does not really matter, because whoever stated the floor, was clearly in a position of speaking for Moneypot..
Thats why, when you run a company.. you watch carefully whom you leave in charge.

Moneypot has fouled up with loosing for its investors wherever you look. On the bankroll they managed to loose in such a collosal way, that there must have been some stealing involved. They did not pay out the Bitcoin Cash that they held, they did not honour the Rubies promise, they do not pay back their bankroll holders now. We have to end this whole charade!

Continued transition and changes to Moneypot:

This is a reminder to all Moneypot and Moneypot legacy users to review all changes made to the new Moneypot powered by MonsterByte site and to also make sure they transfer or withdraw their balance from withdraw.moneypot.com if they had an available balance.  All transfers initiated through this process have been filled, save for a few larger ones that pended review.  These will completed within the following week.  At the end of this month, Moneypot will post a full proof of reserves for all funds invested and transferred onto Moneypot: powered by MonsterByte.



Debt Token Announcement:

Before the period of Decemeber 2016, Moneypot legacy underwent some big winners of the house bankroll.  As a good will gesture, Moneypot legacy offered and agreed to compensate users out of pocket for users who contributed to the house bankroll who were negatively affected by this.

Back on December 17,2016 , DogeDigital announced:
"Current day and previous investors will be credited so that they were in profit of at least their investment plus a bonus that equates to approximately 6% roi a year based on time invested going backward from today.  This will be credited over the next year from future earnings both from the current moneypot platform and other moneypot revenue streams.  Snapshots are taken from today.  However, going forward from today, there will be no extra credit."

He further explained:
"Over the next year. We will be distributing partial income towards crediting investors.  Cant give an estimate on completed time, but the faster income we make the faster we can give it back to our investors.  "

Unfortunately, during that time, there were quite a few setbacks.  While Moneypot was unable to start payments within that time period, the plan is still to compensate users from December 17,2016 past with partial income.

These users are invited to soon log-in to their Moneypot account at withdraw.Moneypot.com and opt-in for the buyback program (not yet active).  After opting in, users will be able to state a personal Waves address to be sent the specialized Moneypot debt token to.   This will allow Moneypot legacy to make the proper calculations and send the appropriate amounts to user's Waves accounts after the first period of collections (30 days). 

After the first period is conducted, the tokens will be sent to all that opted in.  A new opt-in period will continue for another 30 days with re-issued tokens sent upon completion.  A final period of 30 days will follow.
Once the final period has elapsed, all remaining supply of tokens will be burned so that no more can be re-issued. 

Each debt token will represent 1 Bit in debt token value.  Moneypot legacy will make bi-weekly (fortnightly) buy orders of 1 Bit per Debt token with partial income and burn all tokens bought . All buy orders will be made through the Debt token order book market which will determine which sell orders are filled first.  This process will continue until there are no standing sell orders left at 1 Bit per debt token. 

We will try to keep the public updated on the matter as things progress and post burn reports for transparency.

For any questions or assistance on these matters or any others, please contact Support@Moneypot.com.

moneypot wrote

These users are invited to soon log-in to their Moneypot account at withdraw.Moneypot.com and opt-in for the buyback program (not yet active).

when will this be active?

The aim is to get it prepared as quickly as possible.  It will be some time in Q1.  It will be announced when it is active.

I think it's looking good and I'm looking forward to all of this getting laid to rest! Keep up the good work and know that there still are people out here who completely support and have full confidence in the team, even with Monster Byte running the show now I believe it'll all be good moving forward.

I would be one of the "few larger ones that pended review" .
When I go into withdraw.moneypot.com my balance shows "0" .
Could Kindly prop up my account so I can retrieve my Bankroll investment which must sum to ±100BTC.
See a screenshot here:
https://s9.postimg.org/xswl1cz1n/mp_invest.png (https://postimg.org/image/xswl1cz1n/)

I hope you can show a "full prove of reserves" for the ones who will opt into Monsterbyte. But I hope you can honor this and other liabilities that MONEYPOT legacy brought upon you...

all in all 143 BTC invested and about 100 BTC left. did MP prove to you that they still have the 100 BTC?

Don't believe they ever actually proven anything, like literally anything

I don't think MP were claiming to be solvent are they? If they were solvent they wouldn't need to issue a debt token; they could just pay people back.

yep makes sense. poor user @maidenvoyage then as he needs to get a lot of BTCs and MP just like David Copperfield let those coins disappear

Maybe I'm misreading, but I thought they claimed they were solvent and the "debt tokens" were for the bonus funds they promised investors who took a bath when MP got hit so hard.

For example, in the Maiden situation, he would get his 100BTC right now and debt tokens for the 43BTC +2.58BTC for every year he's been invested.

as far as I know Maiden didnt get back the 100 BTC yet and MP didnt prove that they have the 100 BTC.

in case MP is not claiming that they are solvent where are the coins from Maiden and some more?

Yes, obviously if they don't pay Maiden they aren't solvent.  We are talking about the debt tokens and what they are being used for.

Please stop derailing conversations, you're causing MP to delete posts and hurting your own cause.

If you read their announcement carefully, it seems like they are trying to weasel out of their debt by not honoring some of it (i.e. rubies) and then making the rest owed by  "moneypot legacy" (which presumedly refers to the old owners?). I really hope it's not the case, as transferring/selling all the assets of a company and then leaving the liabilities now owned a now empty shell company, is a pretty text-book example of corporate fraud. So it would be nice if MoneyPot would actually provide some real confirmation on what is going on, and it's commitment to honor it's obligations.

All users that have an available balance will be paid out as mentioned previously.  The specific user above does not have an available balance and is being handled through the proper channels.  

Moneypot legacy is responsible for the debt contributions and are not an empty shell company.  The debt tokens were an agreed upon contribution using partial income.  The debt tokens do not apply to investors or player balances past the specific date of December 16, 2016.

Please do not speculate.  Continuing to do so in this thread may lead to having your post deleted to avoid misinterpretation and misunderstandings.

All announcements made recently remain the same and will come into fruition soon.

Thank you.

How is "moneypot legacy" going to general income to pay off the debt tokens?

no one is derailing anything here and they delete my postings because they dont like the truth and it looks like same for you.

RHavar is saying same like me but in better english thats all. please read again

Yes, please let Ryan state your points.  He does it in a much better way. 

This implies some sort of an agreement. I must state to the community that there is NO such thing as an agreement or "specific user does not have an available balance... handled proper channels".
The proper channels is the Canadian Law System where I have filed a claim.
Moneypot INC has during the year of 2017 in many occasions refused to pay me back, always coming up with new ponzi scheme like "wait a little we pay you more tomorrow" promises or even this ICO, or now this "Debt Token" thing. Like the one above. I mean..look at the language.. " responsible for the debt contributions..... " , "debt tokes w(h)ere an agreed upon contribution using partial income...". What does that even mean?  
If they do not grow up, come up with the money that people still have in their Bankroll or in other claims, they show that they are indeed broke.

Would you be willing to clear up why this user (with +100 btc) has not been paid out? When this drama happened last year, I believe the official reasoning was that in exchange for not withdrawing until the end of the year he would be given some fixed return (???).

I won't speculate as to why you made him sign an NDA, but a little bit of transparency would go a long way.


I strongly believe everyone here (including me, and I'm sure maidenvoyage) wants MoneyPot to succeed (and not to mention, it's the only way everyone is made whole). But you are operating in a business and industry that is almost completely defined by trust.

When I ran bustabit, in my time I presided over some pretty epic failures (not the least which included getting hacked). In each instance I was radically transparent about what happened, how the failures occurred and what I did to fix them. To the best of my knowledge, there was no lasting damage as people are very understanding that mistakes can occur but they understandably want certain assures.

So I really think unless you can be clear, straight forward and honest with people -- it is quite literally impossible for your business to survive.

in short MP should be TRANSPARENT for all sides. sadly they are not and never were Transparent.

regarding the NDA IMO it is a very bad sign and it stinks that MP owners are asking an Investor to sign a NDA.

yes everyone incl me would be glad if MP idea would be handled by the right people and a success

All posters are asked to not speculate on the situation.  It is being handled by the appropriate sources and we will give an update when available to do so.  Posts that speculate will be deleted.

The following statement is an assertion of fact and in no way, shape, or form should be considered speculation:

If a company solicits investments, and then does not pay an investor or investors when they divest, that is very bad. 

I can only speculate what the truth is in regards to MP, and if they are solvent. However I believe this whole fiasco regarding MP, starting from when Ryan owned it is evidence that the business model to run a casino with a community funded bankroll is not a sustainable business model. 

There are simply too many competing interests for this model to succeed. The added competing interests of the app owners only amplified this issue.

I very much disagree. I'm sure there's better examples, but the one I am familiar with is bustadice.com which launched ~4 months ago with a community funded bankroll. Players have had access to a pretty cool gambling game, investors have done ok (up 62.9 BTC) and bustadice itself has made 19.98 BTC in commissions. When you consider the expenses (other than Daniels time and energy) are very minimal -- it really is a very sustainable business. Even if you assume there's going to be no player growth, it'll still probably end up clearing 500k USD/year in profits.

It might not be mega-money, but it certainly a sustainable business model.

 

Again, I'm going to disagree. Gambling is a huge industry, and it's such a scalable business. An extra player is pretty much pure profit. I will say having competing interest of app owners definitely makes it more challenging and stressing to manage and it's easy to feel like you have too many masters to serve. But I believe at it's core MoneyPot has a fundamentally strong business model.

I will say it again and again

Moneypot business model/idea is one of the best ever but sadly it was and is in the wrong hands (ownership)

Maidenvoyage was looking to withdraw ~109 Bitcoin from Moneypot to buy into the BetKing ICO back in June/July 2017.

Moneypot didn't let him withdraw and forced him to remain invested in Moneypot with the promise that if Moneypot didn't earn enough profit from player losses to pay back Maidenvoyage the full amount he lost (31 btc?) since investing in Moneypot that they would pay this amount from their own pocket.

If they didn't have 31 BTC then it was obvious that a site with no traffic would not generate enough profit to pay that back or that you could pay out of your own pocket with the huge increase in Bitcoin price from July to December.

It's now February and Moneypot didn't make enough profit to pay back Maidenvoyage and they haven't paid out of their own pocket either.

Since July Moneypot tried to do an ICO, presumabley this was the plan to raise the funds to pay back Maidenvoyage by December, but it failed to raise the amount needed and was cancelled.

Then there was the merge with MonsterByte that again, I assumed would pay Maidenvoyage his losses with the funds they raised in their own ICO but that doesn't seem to be the case and it looks like MonsterByte might not even own or want to work with MoneyPot now.

I can't see how Moneypot can ever recoup 140 Bitcoin to pay back Maidenvoyage, certainly not by some debt token for a site with no traffic.

I think that Moneypot should send all Bitcoin they own to an address and sign a message proving they own the funds.
If they don't want to make the address public for whatever reason I, Ryan or dooglus can verify the signature and at least Maidenvoyage can get an idea of the maximum he might be able to recoup based on the reserves Moneypot has.

Everything correct and a solution here "in the forum" of any kind surely might be welcome and more effective. Until then I prosecute MP through the legal system for this colossal loss and embezzlement.

thx also to you for confirming and taking full action

CHAPEAUX!

ATTENTION APP OWNERS

You are invited to try out the new app portal at: portal.moneypot.com (https://portal.moneypot.com)

The new app portal provides app owners with app administration, app specific analytics, documentation and more.

The app portal is scoped directly to your app. If you are a member of two or more apps, you can switch easily  in the portal header.

Development is still on-going, but we invite you to try our early version and offer feedback. Screenshots. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2345394.msg24248203#msg24248203)

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If you are interested in Migrating to the new MoneyPot with API V2, please contact me privately and I will re-enable your app and provide private 1x1 developer assistance.

There's lots of interesting stuff to come. Stay tuned!

ATTENTION ALL MONEYPOT LEGACY USERS

All Moneypot Legacy users with an available balance are encouraged to initiate a cashout or transfer immediately from withdraw.moneypot.com

All cashouts requested have been processed and there are currently no pending withdrawals.  There are no balances remaining over 1 Bitcoin.

In 24 hours time, the server to withdraw.moneypot.com will be turned off.  After this date, all moneypot legacy users are encouraged to contact Support@Moneypot.com from their registered e-mail address to initiate a cashout following this format:


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Registered E-mail Address:
Last Moneypot Bitcoin Address deposited to:
Last approximate log-in date:



Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.

If you can't confirm or deny anything due to an NDA you should expect people to speculate. 
There can be no discussion without speculation.
Asking people to stop speculating is a huge red flag imo. 

Please keep the topic on hand to encourage users to withdraw if they have an available balance.

I just tried this.

1) I logged in to the withdraw server, and saw my outstanding balance:

https://i.imgur.com/VF1JxvU.png

2) I clicked to "instantly" transfer my balance to the new MP. It told me my balance had been migrated:

https://i.imgur.com/JjBTWfK.png

3) I checked on the new MP and found that my balance was still empty:

https://i.imgur.com/gLt84wp.png

So what's the deal? Is the transfer function broken, or just a bit slower than advertised?

I did see an option to withdraw on-chain but the fee is excessive. 500 bits for a transaction when the mempool is empty and transactions cost around 5 to 10 bits per output?

Can you please try again? 

If you're still having difficulties, please let us know and we'll try to remedy the situation.   The transfer to NEW MP should be instantaneous when initiated.

I just looked into this. Your balance still shows on the old platform. There has been a significant amount of successful migrations. I ask that you please try again as the queue service that executes it may have failed temporary. There was actually a migration 23 minutes ago, after which you would have tried.

Edit: I did not see your request even go through to the queue. Was there any errors in your browser console?

Id be more than happy to migrate this for you manually.

It worked when I tried it again.

I didn't think to look. I clicked the button 3 times before posting here, and all 3 times it popped up a message indicating that the migration had completed.

I guess the message must be generated client-side, and doesn't necessarily mean what it says.

I retried after moneypot's post here and it worked that time.

Congratulations to user PickleRick for hitting a .5292 Bitcoin jackpot off of a 0.000015 btc bet on Bit-exo.com!

https://www.moneypot.com/bets/20933051

Can support look at the withdrawals that are in_progress. Thanks you!

If your withdraw pending is adk, the wallet is under maintenance. I will get all other pendings out if there are any.

https://www.moneypot.com/images/bankroll/bankroll.png


Funds for Moneypot proof:

Bitcoin: 1NchRSEW8ZQb66btjAGxSc4iUNkdrZ38rK ( Moneypot.com funds for proof of liabilities 03/01/2018 / IJxfe0e9UVwxXYPy3B67VU+jPI1V0fKyJfsN1VE+7TZMH3vQ3mFmOXNEDZtOiEaLSUXCxo5k/kWG/qsUXpQg3ms= )

All addresses are subject to change but will be accompanied by signed message of ownership and current date to cover the proof of liabilities at that time.

The other listed coins are currently contained in their respective hot wallets (until large enough to warrant a cold wallet storage) with the exception of ADK which will be shown publicly after maintenance is complete.

Proof of liabilities in the old .txt forms listing encrypted accounts will be provided and featured in the very near future.




All Moneypot legacy withdrawals and transfers that were initiated have all been processed with no available balances of over 1 Bitcoin remaining.

At this time, Moneypot is focusing on building and improving the current system we have before looking to heavily increase the bankrolls of any and all coins. 

The option for public investing is currently available for all coins listed above.  We ask that you do your own research, read our user terms, and FAQ so that you may understand all the risks involved if deciding whether or not to invest. 

I verified that signature:


The address only contains 1.4 BTC. Doesn't MoneyPot owe in the region of 3 figures of BTC to creditors? Is this proof of solvency or insolvency?

Hmm.. That's interesting. Let's see what the official statement from MP will be regarding this, if 1.4BTC is all they have left it'll be a shitstorm for sure.. lol.

There should be ~BTC1,400 but there's only ~BTC1.4

Maybe someone put the decimal point in the wrong place?

The BTC1.4 came from Huobi.com.  (not sure if that's relevant)

https://i.gyazo.com/51b13f48070f1ab791a8d06b9cb84f20.png

Well, the screenshot shows 1.4 million, but I'm guessing that's in "bits", not BTC.

You're right.  And moneypot always did deal with Bits as their main denomination. (At least a while ago they did)

1.4 million bits = BTC1.4 right?
Damn.
Do you think they're saying they only have BTC1.4

Haha that's probably true and damn, that's just horrible!

Isn't that a result of forcing everyone to divest and withdraw their BTC? (not counting the maidenvoyage situation)

Right, 1 million bits = 1 BTC.

But, from their FAQ:


The address they gave starts with a 1. It's a pre-segwit P2PKH address, not a "multi-sig wallet". So that 1.4 BTC they proved ownership of doesn't include the house bankroll funds, because as stated they wouldn't be in a '1' address. What is the bankroll multi-sig address? Why wouldn't they publish that and show proof of ownership?

Edit: https://www.moneypot.com/user/invest/btc says:


so maybe that 1.4 BTC they showed us does include the site bankroll, and the FAQ is inaccurate.

here it was 2.5 BTC so the 1.4 BTC Bank Roll makes sense

Damn, that's bad.
With such a low bankroll, they lost half
Talk about luck..

This is a correct response.



This address is more a representation of ownership to cover proof of liabilities currently listed.  Because the Monsterbyte and Moneypot merger isn't at 100% just yet, we thought it was imperative to display an address from Moneypot's side showing that funds on site were covered.

Once the deal is 100%, a multi-sig wallet will be displayed holding the user funds as pointed out in the FAQ.

Moneypot legacy paid out all initiated cashouts on the withdraw.moneypot.com site as well as covering all transfers made from it to the new Moneypot instance (Many ended up transferring and then cashing out through the new Moneypot's hot wallet).

The funds at the address signed plus an undisclosed amount in the hot wallet cover all current liabilities on the new Moneypot instance.

please tell us if it is BTC or Bits?

how big is the Bank Roll right now in BTC?

https://www.moneypot.com/user/invest/btc says that it's in bits!
And currently its 1.35 btc

hi gap I missed you

thx for confirming but you saw the screenshot that was posted and it showed BTC

The site actually has the word "bits" behind the # so there's that.
It's more than likely that all # on the picture were in bits :p that seems to be the standard notation of moneypot.

Hey JPR,

If you are referring to the image below, it is in fact in bits. We use bit partitions in reference to every coin at MP. For clarity, I will update the image template to display that the units are broken down in bits. The actual image serves as a way for us to display updated hourly stats in forums and other locations.


https://www.moneypot.com/images/bankroll/bankroll.png

Take care and have a nice day,
- CC

Hi CC

thx for clarifying cause it was a bit irritating and not only for me as you see according the discussion.

all the best for you CC

Investors compensation coming soon

There's been updates on this or what? I myself never invested but still like to keep track of it all (was about to invest but just missed out prior to deadline).

to be frank you missed nothing

It seems like it.. It's a shame because at the end of 2016 I was looking in to seriously starting a few MP powered casinos.. It never became a reality either which perhaps was a good thing as well. But yeah, I really liked the old MP and thought the "ICO" etc. would be a good thing, because why not, but if it's not meant to be it's not meant to be I guess.

interesting

you wanted to add some games to MP. are you a coder/dev?

Yeah I had a few ideas and was talking to a coder (I'm not a coder myself), and we'd figure it all out eventually, but he was busy with other things and it just ran its course without anything happening :D. I was going to manage it and take care of the promotional aspects.

I see but you still can try again

good luck

Please be aware that Moneypot.com will be down briefly for some periods today while we undergo maintenance.

thx for the heads up. when will we have news regarding RBIES and Investors compensation?

I'd also like to know this as it feels like it is long overdue right now.. I'm not personally invested but I've kept a close eye on this and I know a few people that did actually invest.

sadly no answer to our question!

but maybe someone can shed some light on RBIES. last 24 hours action on yobit was

RBIES / BTC Last: 0.00000236 24High: 0.00000650 24Low: 0.00000151 24V: 0.47 BTC

this is the second time in quite a short time that RBIES were bought up to 650 and to about 950

who could be interested to buy RBIES?

Moneypot support is doggy doo. BTC and LTC wallets are down temporarily. I asked questions last night at 7 PM and again at 7 AM today with no response. Temporarily usually means short term. The site should not be online if it is going to be a long term outage of the TWO MAIN wallets. Are you serious, people?

Please note that BTC, LTC, and DASH wallets are temporarily offline.  All other Moneypot.com services are working normally and all funds are safe.   We will update when the wallets are restored.

Support is most active weekdays and communicate sparingly through the weekends and holidays.

Wallets are back online. All pending transactions will be resolved within the next few hours.

I received API documentation via email in form of zipped screenshots  :-\
I can't create new app on the site, and have not received answer from support since yesterday.
I dont know whats going on there, but I hope that they get their shit together! I would really like to make some new games betting against their bankroll.

fingers crossed :) to get an answer. you mean you have really new games? are you a dev?

good luck

Where can I register for an app id ?  route: moneypot.com/apps/new - does not work

yes, I code, but It would be such a time saver to launch/test games using MP as backend

Hello Erich2,

Currently our public app creation process has been shut off.  We are however taking personal applications and work with developers if they have unique ideas and a dedicated mind set.  We will have someone reach out to you to discuss this.

why that? unique ideas? who will recognize unique ideas? and if it is unique how much can one earn?I see all your apps are not popular. even bit exo the best is not doing a lot of profit

Thanks! Looking forward to work with you! MP is a brilliant idea and it could grow into a big business

we still didnt get an answer regarding RBIES and Investors compensations!!!

dont you think it is time to give out a statement so we will know where we are heading to?

We don't have a completely solid answer yet as we are waiting on some other factors to play out first.  The plan is to still bring both back as soon as we can.

thx for the answer. very much appreciated. but how about any hint when this could be? just to get an idea what is awaiting us when? you know exactly the full picture and we know nothing what is behind the scene

Great to get an "answer" but I'm also wondering what those factors may be and when you will release a real statement regarding it.

Possibly something to do with maidenvoyage's complaint

Dicebot is officially back on MoneyPot! Visit dice.seuntjie.com (http://dice.seuntjie.com) to play now!

Just a friendly reminder, MoneyPot offers two factor authentication and it can be enabled / disabled at any time on the security page.

first of all I see in your headline that you are still powered by Monster Byte. is this the  case today?

dont you think it is time to tell us Investors when we get the promised compensation?

please dont forget the RBIES you promised to implement

P.S
deleting this post will not help you because under the carpet there is no space anymore

would really love to hear more about the situation with monsterbyte , since I use them for my bitcoin sportsbetting and I invested some thousands in their token
can we at least know if the deal isn't dead yet ?? the silence is scaring me since I have some faith in bitexo future too

MoneyPot is currently taking applications for new apps. If you are interested in launching a custom app on the MoneyPot platform, please contact me.

would you mind answering the last 2 postings questions before your posting?

thx

Im not involved in the business side so I cant answer this. Sorry.

it seems yes and I think both of the sides agreed but waiting for the open case to be concluded so things become official
if you read monsterbyte updates they still mentioning their plans for Moneypot , for example last week they mentioned that they are working on an exchange for the platform
but still nothing official yet it seems

could you please give us the link where it was mentioned a week ago?

thx

Must be this one he is referring to: https://medium.com/monsterbyte/the-potex-io-crypto-exchange-is-on-its-way-f08a3243392c

yeah that link is exactly what I'm referring to
as you can see Monsterbyte is still mentioning Moneypot in their updates and the plans for the exchange for me looks like they are still planning to take moneypot so it's just a matter of time IMO

Hey Guys -

Yes, I can confirm Monster Byte is still pursuing its acquisition of MoneyPot. In fact, we've continued to spend capital to advance quite a bit of behind the scenes features to ensure we hit the ground running once we are officially completed with the acquisition.

The giant elephant in the room is the pending claim that the MoneyPot team is working on defending in the Canadian courts. Months ago we mentioned we wouldn't comment on the case, and we still won't as it's not fair to the old MoneyPot team or the person making the claim. Our hope, and expectation, is that MoneyPot and the person who made the claim will both agree to a reasonable resolution where both parties are content, and we can all move forward with our plans and initiatives with MoneyPot.

More to come...

 

So by saying this, instead of saying something like "Our hope is that MoneyPot will be found innocent", you are essentially admitting that they DO owe at least one individual money.

Also if someone is owed money, I think the only "reasonable resolution" is paying them all of the money that they are owed. 

Not what I'm saying at all, don't put words in my mouth.

I fully agree that its extremely reasonable that if someone is owed money, they should be paid.

Are you acquiring "MoneyPot Inc" as in the Canadian company (which is being sued) and leaving the assets in the company? Or is more of just a transfer of the assets/brand/domain/ip so the creditor has no financial upside in his court case?

@DarkDays is absolutely right!

why should the Investor agree to a reasonable solution? each penny the Investor doesnt get back is a steal/scam done by Moneypot owners.

how about other Investors who are waiting for the promised compensation? or RBIES?

why is this thread's subject still - Powered by Monsterbyte? is Moneypot right now powered by Monsterbyte?

yea many questions are still open and unanswered and you are not helping a lot!

I didn't say you said it, I said you "essentially admitted" it.  Because again, logic.  If I say that you owe me money and you don't, there's not a "reasonable resolution where both parties are content"...you'd tell me to stop lying.  And if I took you to court, claiming that you owed me money, there's no "reasonable resolution where both parties are content", because either you'd pay me money when you didn't owe it to me (not reasonable and you wouldn't be content) or you wouldn't pay me any money when I thought you owed it to me (reasonable, but I wouldn't be content, because if I would be content with a settlement of $0, I wouldn't have brought the suit in the first place).

Maybe the person claiming to not being paid is lying or at least not being fully truthful about the situation and the company can't just out them in public.  Maybe the person has been extorting the company and there's many users here making it easier for him.

Maybe it's a complicated matter involving contract disputes that no one but the two parties know fully.  Maybe it's not an ABC situation. Maybe it's not just an issue of being paid or owed but rather an issue of what's the proper amount to be paid or owed.  

great first posting! maybe Moneypot owners were cheated all the way from all Investors and RBIES holders.

thx for making me laugh

it's obvious now that both sides won't give much info about the situation , let's wait till next month since everything should be clear on June
I have great feeling that everything should be fine , I do trust Tim and I'm sure he will figure out some way or maybe DogeDigital will find a way
but at the moment it seems both sides agreed to not give public info so can't do much about it except waiting , June is getting near

2 month are gone again.

I have to ask again when will we the Investors get our promised compensation?

how about RBIES implementation?

thx

I admire your persistence so much...

I appreciate your posting.

please understand that I still get 4 BTC and lost a lot of money with RBIES. what would you do? just take the loss? I feel cheated.

well June is already here so we should expect some updates regarding your concerns soon
let's just give it sometime and see what will happen , I'm sure monsterbyte will bring back the good old days of moneypot

I don't know much about the problem but I guess it is a nature of gambling that we are lossing much than winning more. Yet if you feel like you are cheated the ask for explanation to the devs or the admin for it.

he didn't lose money in gambling , please either read some of the previous posts or just don't make new posts when you have no idea what's going on
someone may report your post as spamming for your campaign manager

That's what I'm really looking forward to as well, and I know there's every desire to bring back the glory days of MoneyPot and their apps. The sites like Bit-Exo gave me a lot of good early bitcoin memories and BitcoinRush itself is still one of my favourite stops. It's not merely about nostalgia either, there are precious few businesses in crypto gambling that have lasted this long and it'll be a big boost to see them still be here for many more years.

I know Monster Byte understands all these expectations and probably expect more from the future than we do. So let's wait and see.


Then maybe read a few pages to understand the problem, which isn't at all related to what you think it's about.

If you do not know the problems why you should posting it? You might lead other into some confusing post here. It is true that what you said about the nature of gambling, longer time you take for gambling you will either losing everything but the point here is not that, you should try to read more before you try to quote their saying

Can not receive my 2027 GRLC (garlic coin) withdraw from 5 june. Today 12 june.
Hey Moneypot where my withdraw?!

^ Being pushed immediately.  Withdrawal got stuck with someone mining directly to our hot wallet.  Our apologies.

Oh thank you..
I really thought that I would not see my GRLC anymore :)

2027 GRLC received!
All good...

Withdrawal still error or not

What the error?

There are no current pending withdrawals.

App owners can now register users using a white label api endpoint! Contact me for more information.

any news regarding when MBI and WAVES will be added to the apps ? I see they are listed in moneypot but not yet in apps
also regarding MBI , if users decided to hold the coins in moneypot will they be able to get the dividends when they are ready ?
tried to see if there is any info regarding it in the site but can't find anything related to the dividends

API V2.1 Released

All routes will remain under the /v2/ namespace and will be documented in the app owner portal. If you have any questions regarding the changes, please reach out to me.

Change Log

Features

White label registration & login:
Allows a user to register and login directly from the app. App is automatically authorized and MoneyPot user is created.  For trusted & confidential apps only. Rate limited.

Direct app withdrawals:
Allows a withdrawal request to be queued directly from an app. Auth balances only, time delayed processing. For trusted & confidential apps only. Rate limited.

Auth level transaction history:
Transaction information regarding an auth is now available via the API. Information is scoped to an auth and app. Access information regarding deposits, tips, and withdrawals from an app.

App level statistics:
Use the api to access app level statistics and information.

Coin Information:
This API route provides information and status on all coins used inside of MoneyPot.

Deprecated

/v2/new-address:
Route has moved to /v2/wallet/new-address and an alias has been created for reverse compatibility. The alias may be removed in future major versions.

any answer regarding my question from MP or MB , want to make sure before I move my MBI there
it would be nice if I can get the dividends through moneypot , so I can invest my MBI in the bankroll and receive the dividends there as well

MBI and Waves integration should be fully finished by end of this weekend.  We believe that dividends will be distributed if kept in Moneypot but we advise everyone to wait for the official word from MonsterByte or official confirmation here.

alrighty thanks for the answer , will wait for the official statement then
if you manage to pay dividends and let people invest in your bankroll at the same time then this would be a great double edge for having MBI invested there

hopefully good days are coming , can't wait till nessie is up  :D

well that's good news but not that good , I mean who needs support at this time ?? the network is barely having few players and max win is ridiculous
before taking care of support you should find a way to attract investors or invest a couple of btc from monsterbyte funds

I invested some LTC and DASH in the house so it raise the win limit a little but the site still need way more than that

Thank you for your feedback.

Focus has been on the connected Nessie.io exchange for the past little while.  Now that it's launched, we will have more time to shift focus back to the Moneypot platform.

Increased support and the addition of Waves to Moneypot are just the start. 

great , so excited for nessie's launch and hope this idea will attract some coins devs to list with you since it offers the gambling advantage

is there any plan to connect bitcoinrush with moneypot ? like moving the funds between the sites instantly and offer the coins that moneypot takes into bitcoinrush as well ?

I am still waiting for the Investors compensations announcement and the compensations to be done!

how about this?

same disappointing answer as always just changing from the word "Soon" to another way to say "Soon"

guess everything should be fine JPR , looking at what monsterbyte is doing it seems that they are taking the business really seriously and most likely they will solve all of the old issues
their aim for the new exchange should be to compete with other small exchanges , and most likely they will figure this out to protect their business

I really appreciate all your answers and trying to calm down this sensible problem. please understand that I would like to hear a serious answer from Dogedigital who did all those promises till now or/and from Monster Byte how they will handle it if at all. there is till now no serious answer on the table. just check Dogedigitals trust and IMO it tells a story

good luck

everything was fine till you wrote "Attacking us based off of unfounded allegations"!!!

you didn't learn anything and are the same ........ as always. just spare your long answers and write "Soon"

check your red trust and then tell me all those who gave you red trust with the explanations are
"unfounded allegations"

It's probably a matter of opinion, but in my experience when someone is taking a business "seriously", the first thing they do is pay back debtors.  It seems like that hasn't happened yet despite the partnership being over 6 months old. 

Even if you put aside the fact that it's the right thing to do, it's just a matter of optics.  How can you trust Company B when they still owe a bunch of money to people from when they were Company A?  How do you know that they won't repeat their mistakes if they have never atoned for them?

From my understanding, you owe "MaidenVoyage" a large sum of money that you are currently being taken to court over.  Your new owner accidentally admitted your culpability in a post a week or two ago.

In addition to that, you owe the promised "investor compensations", which you chose to call "debt tokens" if I'm not mistaken.  You can see why something called "debt tokens" would be seen as...you know...debt.  Because it's in the name. 

BUT what I actually said is that you owe people money.  And, if you say to investors "I'm going to pay you money", that's owing people money.  You can dress it up in whatever semantics you'd like, but if you promise people money and you haven't paid it to them yet, you owe them that money.  You can say that that money that you owe is due to you being charitable and not because of any liability (and I can't speak to the validity of that claim), but you can't say that you don't owe the money.

Your statements of "You're wrong but I can't tell you why" are meaningless to me.  Sorry.  Even if you're being 100% truthful, you're speaking in riddles and mystery and can't expect to be taken seriously.  Without quantifiable facts/actions all anyone has is speculation based on the facts/actions that are public.

I've been "waiting for the story" to play out for like two years now.  The site lost it's bankroll, you crashed a coin after you created an arbitrary floor for it and then took it away, and you owe a lot of people a lot of money.  How much longer do you envision this "long term solution" will take to start to take place?  What do you feel your "brand"'s reputation should be, considering all of the above?

guess the best thing to do is to post the plan now or later but not too late , like saying that you will giveback X% back to the investors from what MP or MB makes
the good thing is that you aren't denying that there are plans to pay the people , and can't see anyone else beside JPR speaking so can't tell what the original investors think

I wasn't an investor in moneypot but I'm an investor in MBI with more than 7K$ which I want to see going up not down , hope to see a good statement in the coming days like a full plan or something similar 

that's more than enough good news for me , thanks for it

Seems legit.  He'll get back to you after the unsuccessful launch of a new exchange.   Then, you will get your money back thats owed to you.
Does anyone believe a word that comes out of this liar's mouth?

looking at your post history it seems you just created this account to attack moneypot and monsterbyte , so unless you are saying something useful or you used to be an investor then nobody here cares !!

sorry but here you are totally wrong. this user is spot on!!!

this user created his account two months ago , made only 4 posts trolling and attacking moneypot and monsterbyte !! how can I take him seriously ?
unless he is posting some facts or posting if he was affected by moneypot loss then he doesn't add any thing useful

We have lowered our withdrawal fees down to 200 bits.

how is your shop working out for you?

as I said he is spot on and please check the scam accusation thread, there is a very interesting discussion between
@DarkDays and Dogedigital

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2176574.msg41458238#msg41458238 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2176574.msg41458238#msg41458238)

ps
in case this posting will be deleted I will post it in the alternative moneypot thread

Good, sold one gift card so far.

Btw can you add steam gift cards to the shop ? cause these are the only I'm interested in buying since all the other services aren't available for my country
currently I'm buying with bitrefill , but will shift to MP if you add them

Sure I can add one or two to provably.

Sorry to budge in here but do I see a mention of gift cards? Where do I see this option because I'd love for a way to buy Bitcoin gift cards (I assume this is like Visa type pre-loaded ones you can use anywhere). I have a problem also with country like the user above. Anything that can be used on Amazon and ebay are popular, so you would get more buyers I'm sure.

On provably.io you can buy gift cards with bitcoin. I’ll be adding more cards in the near future.

Ah, okay! Thank you for the info. I thought this was on MoneyPot itself, but never knew about the giftcards options on Provably.io. Checking them out right now and I can see it's on the shopping cart but you have got to make this more prominent okay? :) ) Amazon is perfect for me, wish I knew this before but will look it up by December which is my next big round of shopping. No possible way to split up the gift cards or smaller/bigger denominations?

So....if I'm reading the latest few replies properly. MP is now waving their hands and claiming that they've paid back all of their liabilities and that they've accomplished all of these things in the last 18 months, when in reality, it doesn't seem that anyone has been paid, and there have been little if any new functionality beyond the new site design?

hmmm where did you read the moneypot said that ?? DogeDigital had said it many times that they will pay what people lost in the future after the network has more traffic but he never said that they already paid what people lost investing

Actually, he just said that he's missed the promised start of the repayment by over 6 months now.  I'm sure there are lots of people who, like myself, assumed that they had already started paying people back.

dont you guys think that if Dogedigital aka moneypot would have paid to only one Investor the compensation that he proudly would have announced it? if he would have paid me the 4 BTC I should get I also would proudly announce that he paid me!

I did not get yet 1 Satoshi!

Hello? Can you give a realistic prediction of the time when we hear something really good? I have seen 2 predictions now that where fallse. Or just tell us that we dont get anything back of our investment. So we can close this case and dont have frustrating anymore. The communication is terrible, really it is!

Is this dead? Im confused.

Can't really comment here as I have no idea about how that part of Moneypot liability changed hands (or if it did) when it was acquired. Don't want to be the bringer of false hope either but from what I understand, the previous owners have every intention of making good on their dues, they just have yet to work out how.

In any case, MP as it stands now, is a very different entity. Guys like me hope to see their fortunes revived, esp with their apps that I actually really really liked. Global casino bankroll idea was incredible when they did it, and still hasn't been replicated.


MoneyPot is not dead, was acquired by Monster Byte (as thread title suggests) in Jan 2018.