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Just conjecture, but I've never posted a "who is Satoshi?" thread before. This possibility needed its own thread.

Tatsuaki Okamoto:



His intensive use of C++. (https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&q=%22Tatsuaki+Okamoto%22+c%2B%2B+Visual) I've heard said he codes in the style of an 80's/90's coder, though someone could tell me different if they know.

Tatsuaki Okamoto: Computer Science Bibiliography (http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/%7Eley/pers/hd/o/Okamoto:Tatsuaki.html)

It's him.  Now let's leave him to his privacy.

Someone should probably ask him how many coins he has. He might know a thing or two about MtGox also:

So it's possible the Canadian Mint made this connection rather quickly.  Did they have some help, from someone involved in Bitcoin perhaps?

It's also possible that the creator(s) of Bitcoin were familiar with Okamoto, and simply chose a similar pseudonym.

It's possible.

Does the name Satoshi Obana (https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&q="Tatsuaki+Okamoto"+"Satoshi+Obana") mean anything to anyone?

and satoshi nakamoto translates to clear thinking inside the foundation. a guy who works for the nsa would fit that perfectly.

Or a guy that works for the largest telecomm in the world.

I think things are now pointing to the theory that Satoshi Nakamoto was a completely contrived pseudonym, created by a person or persons familiar with the works of cryptographers Satoshi Obana + Tatsuaki Okamoto.

There is also this:

"An Efficient Divisible Electronic Cash Scheme"

http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F3-540-44750-4_35

I only glanced but it basically talks about making a crypto currency with RSA...

I think someone needs to find Tatsuaki Okamoto and conduct an interview.  Bounty, anyone?  

It's much more likely that Satoshi was a contrived name, as opposed to Satoshi actually being Tatsuaki Okamoto or Satoshi Obana.  I can see someone familiar with the works of Satoshi Obana and Tatsuaki Okamoto deriving the name from a combination of the two.

I'm very surprised, however, that there hasn't been a single mention of Tatsuaki Okamoto on these forums until now.  The guy's last name is Okamoto, and he published works focused directly on cryptocurrencies... I mean, come on.

Things like this are the underlying principles of smart card payment networks. Like Suica in Japan and Oyster in London.

Although this paper uses rather fancy techniques, the general concept is far behind Bitcoin; it is a scheme that merely allows people to prove their balances in banks and sign their transfers, of a centralized currency where the main service nodes (banks) have the final authority of whatever can happen. There are many other people who do this kind of research.

I also took a glance at his publications, and I see that his work is much more delicate than Bitcoin, while none of it resembles any kind of interest in something that could relate to P2P cryptocurrency protocols. I also have a hunch that Okamoto is a better mathematician than Satoshi Nakamoto, comparing Okamoto's papers to "that" bitcoin.pdf.

There might be a possibility that discovering who Satoshi Nakamoto really is could destroy bitcoin.

Let's imagine that this Tatsuaki Okamoto is the one, with ties to the NSA. What would the Chinese and the Russian think of bitcoin about a NSA created cryptocurrency (with maybe millions of already created bitcoins on the national treasure).

That could destroy worldwide adoption.

Beware of your desires (like knowing who is satoshi) because could become true.

sorry I'm just curious, is it really important we know who satoshi is? Even if someone did know with absolute certainty, who he is... Would he/she even reveal him/her to the world?

I mean think about it. Satoshi gave us this amazing technology. Would anyone really want to expose satoshi's identity? Satoshi invented crytocurrency. A huge part of cryptocurrency is anonymity. The anonymity is there for a reason: Satoshi wants to left alone. Why persue knowing who he/she is?

It will be interesting to know who he is, but it is not important to know.  If he wants to be out, he will be out himself, why is there so many wild guesses going on?  Just leave him alone.

No matter who Satoshi is, uncovering his identity is likely a bad thing for Bitcoin, which is sad not for Bitcoin as an investment, but Bitcoin as a transformative technology.

That being said, there will always be someone who simply must know and I'm grateful for that impulse in general. Curiosity is a great human drive; it's one of those things that makes life worth living. In the case of Bitcoin, however, there are few answers that would not in some way subject the currency to the credibility of a single man. I can't help but hope Satoshi Nakamoto, whoever he is, covered his trace well enough to never be discovered.

 I hope to god he covered his tracks as well.

But if he ever is discovered, what do you think  would happen to faith in Bitcoin?

Actually i think unconvering him will be bad for bitcoin. We humans have many weaknesses. Maybe he follows a specific politic path, or maybe he is from a specific country some other countries are suspicious of and that might be enough to lose BILLIONS of followers. Maybe he is alcoholic or has any kind of weakness. A creator perpetually on the magazines will only be bad for bitcoin. He might have a lover or two or who cares. I think it is better if he is a ghost. I seriously don't care where he goes on holidays. He for sure is not an angel or a perfect human. Also many people just viewing satoshi nakamoto's face alone will just not like him. It is human nature. Leave him alone.

Actually people talks a lot about how antifragile bitcoin is. I think it is really fragile. Let's imagine that USA wants to destroy bitcoin. They will only have to create a movie (like the movie about facebook) about satoshi nakamoto and how CIA created the coin. or instead of a movie, just create four or five docs on national greographic about it. Even being a lie, millions would avoid bitcoin only on the suspicion that CIA created it with some hidden reason. Just give it two or three oscars after that and you will have widespread adoption of the bitcoin cia origins. Billions might not like to move from petrodollar to Cia's coin.

Leave him alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhwkcdlyvHE

Tatsuaki Okamoto out of the suggested people definitely has the best chances so far to be Satoshi, there are a whole lot of similarities.

we must come in contact with him

This doesn't make sense at all. Why would someone who went to such great lengths to remain anonymous choose a name that is so similar to his real name?

I have to wonder if he does.

Then Bitcoin wouldn't be a very resilient technology and would need to be replaced with something better.

Normally I don't take "Satoshi is x" threads too seriously, but since Severian started this one, I decided to take a closer look.  If Satoshi isn't Okamoto, he might be one of Okamoto's co-authors.  One could make a list of all of his western co-authors (there aren't that many) and see if any of the names connect with anyone known in bitcoin circles.  He co-authored a paper with David Chaum in 1991 titled "Direct zero knowledge proofs of computational power in five rounds."  The coding style of the Satoshi client is consistent with someone who learned programming before 1990 or so.  I think there's a good chance Satoshi is still active in bitcoin circles, just operating under a different pseudonym.  One could entertain a study of all the pull requests submitted by pseudonymous persons over the last two years and see if any suggest that they came from someone with a very intimate knowledge of the code.

I'd considered that. Or it might be a few people working through one persona acting as a secretary. I think we're in the right ball park here even if we might be over in left field.

I don't think Satoshi's goal was to hide forever because that doesn't matter. I think his goal was to hide while Bitcoin was still bootstrapping itself. I think enough time has passed and his risk should be considered lower. If anyone gets him there is nothing he can do to change Bitcoin now.

Agreed. Looking at this now, he was hiding in plain sight. I want to send the guy a present for giving the world such a great gift. We can only hope that Bitcoin is stronger than the human tendency to screw up good things.

Regarding the similarity of names, It appears that Tatsuaki Okamoto and Satoshi Nakamoto are about as similar as George Johnson and Dave Richardson.

Sure, they have similar letter strings, and to someone who didn't speak English, it might appear peculiar. I can't help but be curious if someone from Japan finds the names to be as similar as we might.

To paraphrase Mallory, "because he's there". :)

But seriously, I know he posted in this forum... Did anyone ever look into the forums logs to maybe trace him by IP(s)?

Looking for him is really a waste of time.  Do something better than searching for a ghost with you most valuable commodity (time).

There do seem to be some connections between the two, but what flatfly said is most probably correct - why not Michael Thompson or Juan Hernandez?

I doubt it. Satoshi speaks perfect english, and ive never seen him type in japanese I think hes from britian

Did anyone ever look into the forums logs to maybe trace him by IP(s)?

Here's a paper by Okamoto and Ohta, first published in  1992

Advances in Cryptology — CRYPTO ’91
Lecture Notes in Computer Science Volume 576, 1992, pp 324-337

Universal Electronic Cash
Tatsuaki Okamoto, Kazuo Ohta

http://pdf.aminer.org/000/120/358/universal_electronic_cash.pdf


It would make sense that Satoshi Nakamoto is Okamoto or both Okamoto and Ohta, if they had been thinking about the problem and challenge of making an electronic cash system for nearly two decades before they produced bitcoin.

Here is a patent by Ohta and Okamoto from 1990:

http://www.google.co.uk/patents?hl=en&lr=&vid=USPAT4977595&id=AqAkAAAAEBAJ&oi=fnd&dq=electronic+cash&printsec=abstract#v=onepage&q=electronic%20cash&f=false

"Publication number   US4977595 A
Publication type   Grant
Application number   07/500,555
Publication date   11 Dec 1990
Filing date   28 Mar 1990
Priority date   3 Apr 1989
Also published as   CA2013368A1, 6 More »
Inventors   Kazuo Ohta, Tatsuaki Okamoto

Method and apparatus for implementing electronic cash
US 4977595 A
ABSTRACT
In an electronic cash implementing method, a user makes a bank apply a blind signature to user information Vi produced, by a one-way function, from secret information Si containing identification information, thereby obtaining signed user information. Further, the user makes the bank apply a blind signature to information containing authentication information Xi produced, by a one-way function, from random information Ri, thereby obtaining signed authentication information. The user uses an information group containing the signed user information, the signed authentication information, the user information and the authentication information, as electronic cash for payment to a shop. The shop verifies the validity of the signed user information and the signed authentication information, and produces and sends to the user an inquiry. In response to the inquiry the user produces a response Yi by using secret information and random information and sends it to the shop. Having verified the validity of the response the shop accepts the electronic cash."

And a few more patents by Okamoto in the same field:

It's seems highly likely that he is Satoshi -- if he has been working in this area for such a long time, and then create such a flawless system like bitcoin.


Electronic cash implementing method using an anonymous public key license (1996)

https://www.google.co.uk/patents/EP0772165B1?cl=en&dq=ininventor:%22Tatsuaki+Okamoto%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WnnEUb-uMOPC0QWMn4GADQ&ved=0CFYQ6AEwBA


Electronic cash implementing method with a surveillance institution, and user apparatus and surveillance institution apparatus for implementing the same (1997)

https://www.google.co.uk/patents/EP0807910B1?cl=en&dq=ininventor:%22Tatsuaki+Okamoto%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WnnEUb-uMOPC0QWMn4GADQ&ved=0CEgQ6AEwAg

Method and apparatus for implementing hierarchical electronic cash (1997)

https://www.google.co.uk/patents/EP0810563A3?cl=en&dq=ininventor:%22Tatsuaki+Okamoto%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WnnEUb-uMOPC0QWMn4GADQ&ved=0CGsQ6AEwBw

Electronic cash implementing method for issuer having electronic cash balance counters, corresponding issuer equipment and recording medium having recorded thereon a program for execution of the method (1998)

https://www.google.co.uk/patents/EP0926637B1?cl=en&dq=ininventor:%22Tatsuaki+Okamoto%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WnnEUb-uMOPC0QWMn4GADQ&ved=0CGQQ6AEwBg

Can we PLEASE stop with these threads???   It's 99% likely in my opinion that Satoshi is still on this forum under a different name or names.  It's also highly likely that if people ever found out who Satoshi REALLY is/was there would be major ideological splits which could only be bad for the future of btc.

Satoshi is Atlas (or whatever Atlas goes by now)
Satoshi is Matthew N. Wright....
Satoshi is Theymos....
Satoshi is BitRebel....
Satoshi is me and Satoshi is you, Satoshi is all of us - and it's better left that way

Peace, love, bitcoin and all that jazz lol

Can we please stop with people who have no desire to find out who Satoshi is, posting in threads for people who are genuinely interested in his true identity? Thanks!

I speak and read a little Japanese and find this very interesting. If I remember correctly, "Satoshi" means something like wisdom. A little like "sophia (Σoφíα)" in Greek.  "Nakamoto" is formed by the characters for inside, or sometimes entrance(中)-the character is a mouth with a line going inside; and cause, foundation, or origin (元).-Not to be confused with the character for origin that is the root of a tree.
So Satoshi Nakamoto roughly translates to "Wisdom inside cause".

Now "Okamoto" I am not sure about. I think as a family name I would interpret it to mean "from Okinawa". Tatsuaki is a common boys name meaning something like "attaining the light". So together it might read "Reaching the light from Okinawa".

like the Chinese it is based on, Japanese characters are whole ideas and as such they can be interpreted in different ways. These are also common names and all this may mean nothing. Still kinda cool. 

i dont like to be dragged into these identity threads but many have asked me for my input..

so here goes
Tatsuaki Okamoto is not the guy that alongside gavin andressen helped program early bitcoin. due to factors such as Tatsuaki Okamoto is very much american english and the guy gavin spoke to is very much british english.

that being said...

there is nothing stopping a think tank of people before 2009 to have got together and combined their idea's into a final paper. and then combined their names into one pseudonym

maybe the english guy that helped finalise the collectives idea's into a white paper and then progressed it into helping gavin.. was called:

Satsuya(shortened to Sat)

another was called
Nobutaka (shortened to Naka)

another was called
Nobuyoshi (shortened to oshi)

and of course
Tatsuaki Okamoto(shortened to moto)

combining to be sat - oshi naka - moto.

where as i said above. Tatsuaki Okamoto moved onto other things but one of the other 3 that has a british English based understanding went on to continue the work along side gavin.

now thats over with.. can we all try putting in as much effort into expanding bitcoin from a business prospective and use your time productively.

you can spend 20 years finding out who it is.. just for you to meet them and in 3 seconds they say "nope, not me, sorry" and your no where closer to solving the puzzle

Satoshi Nakamoto is unlikely to be one person.

However, Tatsuaki Okamoto was also present at most Financial Cryptography Conferences with Yossi Matias , Daniel A. Nagy and Moti Yung etc.

See my forum post here: Yossi Nagy Moti - Cryptovirology and Bitcoin - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=206630.0

Just search for stuff like 'Financial Cryptography' , 'Conference Archives' and add these guys names. They were all there including many possible others. ;D

Lol you make is sound like satoshi was gavin's side kick.  I dont recall you being around in the early days, but interesting speculation ...

It's completely impossible that Satoshi is kept anonymous forever.

I don't want him to be discovered, but there will always be one thousands guys trying to find who Satoshi is. That's the job of journalists. They won't stop.

Eventually,  in a month, in a year or in five years, someone will find enough evidence to point to some guy or group. It's possible that the NSA already knows, since they have access to much more records than any journalist may have.

So I think we should be prepared to deal with that.

If we don't care who Satoshi is, then Bitcoin will be invincible. If we focus in Bitcoin value proposition, and in Bitcoin's future, then it doesn't matter who Satoshi was.


 

that already happened, multiple times, but those individuals or groups usually deny, so what can they do? it's not official until it's official.

I would rather believe that Satoshi Nakamoto is one of the largest mining hardware selling companies. It would all make sense since he/she/they programmed Bitcoin and would know what's the best hardware and how to build the best hardware. He/she/they could be making million off mining hardware while we are still clueless. Note: the above is just my opinion, if you disagree then disagree......

Could it just be that we're not as familiar with Japanese names? If Bitcoin was invented by someone (supposedly) named Ethan Hilbert, and then we found someone named Nathan Gilbert who also wrote about cryptographically backed currency, would we make as strong a connection? Might just be a coincidence, coupled with cultural ignorance.

When I reviewed the early crypto forum discussions between James A. Donald and Satoshi, I found one instance where Satoshi used American English vernacular. If I remember correctly it was "like" instead of "such as". I probably have the exact quote in my Bitcoin : The Digital Kill Switch thread, but I don't feel like rereading the very long thread to find it.

The military crypto examples Satoshi used caused me think he might have exposure to the NSA culture.

I just don't think normal people can create Bitcoin and not tell any family, friends, and completely hide their tracks. Only agents can do that, i.e. have the discipline to never blurt it or otherwise misstep.

And I don't think Bitcoin was created for our good (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160612.msg3034633#msg3034633).

P.S. I no longer think Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme. The link above explains the insoluble problems of Bitcoin.

http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm

MORE THAN ENOUGH EVIDENCE THE NSA WOULD MAKE SOMETHING LIKE BTC

Interesting speculations.

Okay, since some people on here are in need of an Introduction to Japanese Names:

Japanese names are like Western names split into two parts. The last name usually comes first:
Nakamoto and then the given name: Satoshi

The most likely characters for this name are: 中本　智　But these are not the only possibilities. The reversed order would suggest that the person is not living in Japan. It is interesting that it is a combination with only three characters. Most Japanese names have four. The character for Satoshi is not a simple character, which would suggest a decent knowledge of Japanese or of course they just took the first name of the creator of pokemon :P. There are about 42500 people in Japan called Nakamoto. It is the 490th most common last name. It is very likely some of them are even called Satoshi.

Is there like a bounty for finding him ? (other than possibly blackmailing him if we wants to remain anonymous)
(I know it is most likely not one person, but maybe there was one central figure)

these are his first posts yes?

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-list&max_rows=25&style=nested&viewmonth=200901

From reading them he doesn't strike me as Japanese born, the english is way too smooth unless perhaps he had one western parent. I know a lot of Japanese including plenty that have spent decades living and working in the west, all of them give themselves away with a few paragraphs of spoken or written text.

What was his email back then? Satoshi@vi.. viwhat?

also this was news to me but what do I know

"For now, you can just multiply the total blocks by 50.  The Bitcoin network has been running for almost a year now.  The design and coding started in 2007."

the way he writes that sounds very much how you'd write it if you were heading a group, one that only went public one to two years after getting the basics working.

Also given that he spells "realize" and so on with a Z, his style is firmly american english not british english.

As a resident of Japan who speaks to non native English professionals in many fields everyday, it is my opinion that whomever wrote the messages in the link above is either a native English speaker or has spend the vast majority of their life in an English speaking country. From the above link I didn't see any clear indication as to which country though.

shrug, I did read through all this posts not just one or two.

I'd be willing to bet money he is not from the pink parts of the globe let alone non english speaking countries. I'd put money on Satoshi being american. If the post time stamps are not muddled up his posting was also consistent with a north american time zone.

So much for this bet, there was one thing that niggled me. In one post he writes something or other is "bloody hard". That is almost exclusively something a brit would say in a moment of frustration. Also the forum timestamps in UTC are more consistent with a UK resident who sometimes works early in the morning, but mostly in the afternoon, than american. He typed "realize" etc to blend in with the majority of his audience.

Yes, you are right. The US would be most probable. Second would be Northern Europe (a lot of native British-Australian-...) have certain language usage that would be dead giveaways. Then third Britain and colonies.

I have a strong hunch, but don't know what to do with it. I don't want to end up like Nelson and some others. Spewed out by the community as a weirdo as the person in question denies it. :D

Check out the references at the bottom of this paper http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm

I think the burning question, aside from who "He" is, did this guy ever get to stash a nice pre-mine of Bitcoins for himself??

(Well deserved, of course)

I am Spartacus... um, I mean Satoshi.

I think the recent events at Mt.Gox and the flaws exploited in Bitcoin, have proved this sentiment wrong.  I've already heard from people accusing the creators of bitcoin of using the transaction malleability flaw to steal millions.  I think it's highly unlikely, but for the general public who are somewhat suspicious of Bitcoin in the first place- the inability to deny this possibility has made Bitcoin untrustable.  I think it could eventually lead to the downfall of Bitcoin (hello Litecoin!).  The value of cryptocurrencies is based on trust, and that trust is very limited when the creator(s) are anonymous.

this

*bump*

with all the cia/nsa talks.. i thought i should give this a bump for those who haven't seen it.

My money is on "AnonyMint" ..

Triff ..

Anonymint talks a lot, but has refused to give us a concept of what he considers a solution to the scaling problem.

As far as I am aware he is waiting for someone else to solve the hard problems, and in the meantime warn people away from all currencies that can't scale.

This isn't such a bad thing, we do need people in the community that are vocal about the limitations of current crypto currency.

However I doubt Anonymint is Satoshi.

This. He obviously took strong measures to be anonymous and at this point he has no more control over Bitcoin now than you and me.

This is false, Satoshi controls at least enough Bitcoin to drive the price down for probably a year or more, and that's assuming the community keeps buying the cheap bitcoin he's selling whilst knowing that their beloved creator of Bitcoin has lost faith.

If Satoshi dumps his bitcoin and forces the price down for a long period of time, people will start to ask "why?" and panic.

It's believed that Satoshi moved onto something else after Bitcoin, could that something else be a competitor?

To say that you have the same control over this currency as Satoshi is being very naive.

if Satoshi wants his identity and personal information revealed to the media/government/entire world, I'm sure he will let us know. the harassment and personal attacks would be overwhelming and destroy the quality of their life.

i don't understand why people are so driven to expose him(them) to the world, when clearly he wishes/deserves to remain in privacy. so you would like to reveal his identity, so we can ask if he will dump his btc? and get information on what projects he is working on? you will have access to info surrounding new projects online just like everyone else as they emerge. and if the world found his identity, its more likely he would dump and separate himself from btc as much as possible

Well I'm fine with Satoshi remaining anonymous. Exposing Satoshi does not sound like a good idea.

it does matter! It will help clarify the motive behind BTC
One world currency for the new world order? (NSA)
or some guy who is trying to save humanity? I don't know right now! the only way we will have a chance of knowing is by knowing who satoshi truly is.

So at this point, one should ask themselves which of the two versions would actually benefit from such hiding strategy..

Nah I don't think so. Aren't we just pointing out people who are supposed to be knowledgeable in a certain field? How many of those people are there? And even if somewhere someone successfully mentions the right name, we'd never know whether they were indeed right!

the guy also appears on this 1996 NSA's report about cryptocurrencies and minting: http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm

interesting!!! BTC

Tatsuaki Okamoto was a good candidate, but he had to be ruled due to his location during the months Satoshi was active online...

Satoshi said he started creating Bitcoin in 2007....(The creation of Bitcoin is below, you don't have to make any guesses or assumptions, it's all there with the links to back it up)

2007  
Zooko quote: “I want to invent something else: a truly decentralized economic mechanism. Research that points in this direction includes the sub-field of “algorithmic mechanism design” within economic game theory, some peer-to-peer research such as GNUnet, Wei Dai’s and Nick Szabo’s ideas about “bit gold”, Nick Szabo’s “smart contracts”, and much more. Another inspiration is BitTorrent’s tit-for-tat mechanism, which is decentralized and minimal, but gets the job done within its limited problem domain.”
https://tahoe-lafs.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2007-June/000022.html
https://tahoe-lafs.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2007-June/000025.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20010331105544/http://zooko.com/

2007 Szabo applies BitGold and his “Scarce Object” theory to Zookos p2p hard drive project with "Nanobarter" (together this creates Bitcoin)
Szabo: “One possible answer to central mint vulnerability is bit gold — a currency the value of which does not depend on any particular trusted third party. Another alternative is (an object barter economy”Scarce Objects”).”  
http://web.archive.org/web/20070625154046/http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/  
http://web.archive.org/web/20070618142414/http://szabo.best.vwh.net/scarce.html

*Ray Dillenger (Bear) quote: “Look, (Satoshi) was a construction made explicitly for the purpose of launching Bitcoin……That purpose is fulfilled.  The person who created (Satoshi) has no further need for him.  Thus ends the story”.

hmmmm... ^this guy ;)

Tatsuaki Okamoto is cited in the very first NSA release about something similar to Bitcoin in 1996, presented at MIT: http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm

1.Bitcoin is far more interesting if SN remained anonymous. Stop trying to spoil it!

2.As others said, if we positively id SN, it could have far more potential for negative effects than positive. If people didn't like SNs history or associations it may colour people opinions of btc (even if SN were NSA or CIA etc, it wouldn't mean any new or real power over btc - only in peoples perceptions of it). Not to mention for any personal lives at stake... Dorian.

3. its true that SN has the selling power to drive the price down, but so what? Knowing more about SN identity probably won't change that.
I'm sure one day he will spend his/her/their coins anyway  (probably to live of, when enough services are available). SN might even sell h/h/t coins - but if BTC is worth anything then the buyers in the market will grab them up anyway keeping the price above 0 (btc can work just fine at any price above 0).  
What motivates SN to spend or sell h/h/t coins is probably no more 'informed' than anyone else so why give it more credence? He's not involved with btc anymore so doesn't necessarily have any insight or predictive powers (assuming SN isn't involved with an organisation that could kill btc, whatever the hell that would be...lol)

 

Im pretty sure even if it is him..he is going to say that he isnt.! Unless he steps up for some reason...I dont think we r ever going to find out who satoshi actually is.!

Satoshi could also come out and announce that he deleted his private keys - that should send the price of BTC surging since the edge risk of him dumping all his coins would, likely, no longer exist.

Given what seems to happen to people like Charlie Shrem, I don't think it's particularly wise for someone to try and out Satoshi, even if someone like Tatsuaki Okamoto might well be him. If the guy wants to be anonymous, then leave him be.

Nice post!

Maybe he's just waiting the right time...

Interesting. One point to Tatsuaki Okamoto.

Is there any thread with a list of suspected Satoshis?

http://s3.amazonaws.com/dfc_attachments/images/3234575/turin_shroud.png

To paraphrase a recent post clause, the Shroud of Turin is far more interesting if origins remained anonymous. Stop trying to spoil it!

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/assets/4063657/Beinecke_DL_2002046-178.jpg

To paraphrase a recent post clause, the Voynich manuscript is far more interesting if its author is never revealed. Stop trying to decode it!

http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly6jjpAX4L1qzt1yyo3_400.gif

To paraphrase a recent post clause, the Max Headroom hacker is far more interesting if its source is never revealed. Stop trying to count how many times the prankster was spanked with a flyswatter!

Will this suffice?: Desperately seeking Satoshi; From nowhere, bitcoin is now worth billions. Where did it come from? (https://www.gwern.net/docs/2014-smithset.pdf). Within you'll find the usual suspects.