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In terms of efficiency, that is hashrate per kilowatt-hour, which GPU is the best?
Has anyone tried the new Radeon RX Vega 64?


Haven't done any mining but I might invest some on a mining rig although I might mine an altcoin and not bitcoin.

wrong section

RADEON VEGA AND GEFORCE GTX 1080TI

Oh really? I thought it should be Hardware Section. What's the proper section? Mining?

Bitcoin Forum > Alternate cryptocurrencies > Mining (Altcoins)  ;D
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hashrate per kilowatt-hour, 1080ti is the best.
hashrate per gpu price, maybe Rx570.

it clearly stated on the top no discussions about gpu mining lol

1070Ti can get like 4.3 Sol/W.

What is the difference between buying a GPU to mine and one of the Miners (D3, L3, S9) etc? Moneywise in USD, sorry this might be a noob question, I just am getting started and trying to gain knowledge! Thanks.

I prefer Nvidia, At present the latest driver and hardware is gtx-1080ti.
you will find youtube tutorial.

(D3, L3, S9) are not GPU miners, they are ASIC miners, every altcoin has ASIC miners, they just wouldn't tell you. idiots are buying GPU to mine coins while tech companies are mining with ASIC.

Thanks Tesorex for clearing that up! Makes sense why everyone is trying to mine with GPU, but the big boys are using the ASIC miners. The thing that I am worried about is that people are buying them up like crazy, will the value depreciate (Example: D3 miner, I heard its going to take a long time for people to just make back their money and they are asking for refunds now). Therefore, making mining almost not worth it for the average user at home. Curious about your thoughts.

The answer is "it depends on what algorithm(s) you intend to mine".

 And as a hint, not all "big" mining operations are ASIC-specific - again, it depends on the algorithm.

 Big GPU-based mining operations tend to be smaller scale than big Bitcoin based ones since they don't NEED to be as big just to compete for the same % share of available coins....

In my opnion 1080ti is the best and most efficent gpu in terms of performance/wattage buts it is really inefficient interma of cost to performance better to buy two 1070 or 480s in same price and get better hahsrate but 1080 ti build provide u good density and anyway they are the best gpus for gaming currently available and they will still stand their ground against next gen card and hence price fall wont be that much.

Nvidia is the most preferred

Depends on your goals.  RX570,RX580 are really good on cost per performance.   Nvidia 1070 seem to be the second best when it comes to cost for performance.   If you just want to buy the most powerful miner today the 1080 ti is good, but I prefer $285 range for 30Mh/s vs $450 for a little more power efficiency.

1080ti is one of the best, can easily go 4+sol/w.

Other pros - very powerful, saves you space and money on other components (mobo, cpu, RAM, risers etc), very good aftermarket sale potential
Cons - quite expensive

and what exactly would you mine today with a 1080 ti, considering hash rate and long term stability of the mined coin,

anything beating Zcash ?..

ZEN has been pretty consistantly beating ZCash this month - but usually by a very small amount.
Everything else that has bounced above ZCash profitability so far this month has only been there for a day or two at a time, then fall back down again.

 GTX 1070 ti is a little more efficient even at the SYSTEM level on both hash/watt and hash/$ than the GTX 1080 ti at the most efficient point for each card - but it's close, really can't go wrong with either option.

Have the AMD Vega cards not a better Hashrate and a lower power as NVIDIA and the other AMD Rx cards?

They definitely aren't a better value than Polaris/Pascal in most cases. They might, not sure about most algorithms, but most people I know are currently mining XMR with them and are doing pretty well. Biggest issue I have for them was that they were sold much above MSRP, prices are going down again making these possibly a decent buy.

Does anyone have a computer setup with 6 1070s (motherboard, hard drive, ram, cpu)?

I have couple of these:

MB: Gigabyte H110-D3A
CPU: Intel Celeron G3930
RAM: Kingston HyperX  4GB ddr4
SSD: The cheapes 120GB i can get.
PSU: Raidmax Cobra 1200W Gold

Works great!

It depend on which algo, but I will vote for NVidia GTX1080ti
Cause after tweaking it is powerfill and cold monster.
Though I do not have any AMD card so it hard to judge them for me

 There are at least 3.5 million GPUs mining ETH alone - the large majority of those are AMD.

 ALL OTHER COINS COMBINED don't manage 2 million GPUs.

 NVidia is the most prefered on many coins, but not all and not by miners overall - there is a reason RX-series card prices are still majorly inflated while NVidia card prices are pretty much right back down to where they were 6 months ago.


 XMR is the ONLY place the Vega stands out as a superior option per all of the info I have seen about it to date - Vega is NOT competative on hash/$ or hash/watt on anything else, usually failing on BOTH when mining anything else.


 1080 ti is very close on both hash/$ and hash/watt when you compare complete systems vs the 1070 ti, but it falls just a hair short in ZCash/ZEN/ZCL mining - difference is only a percent or two on efficiency and less than 5% on cost/hash but the 1070 ti DOES win.
 The "fewer cards to deal with" issue though might make it a "better option" for some folks anyway, and it's close enough it doesn't make sense to shut down existing systems using it.
 It's also close enough that cards going on sale or ANY noticeable price move out of NVidia could change it.

 At this point I would not bother with the 1070 or 1080 - they're noticeably behind the curve - unless the card is in an existing system.

I assume you're asking this question because you have expensive power?

Looks like most people like the 1080 Ti, and it is a strong hasher, but it depends.... on:

1. What algorithm are you going to mine? I only mine equihash, so that's all I can comment on right now. If you want to mine cryptonight etc, then disregard :)
On Equihash, a 1080 Ti can get 700-800 Sol/s, with the most efficient settings getting around 725 sol/s and using 250 watts.
A 1070 Ti can get 525-650 Sol/s, with the most efficient settings getting around 570 sol/s using 170 watts.

At those speeds, it comes down to the power cost usage over a month being only a few kW hours difference.

2. Purchase cost of the GPU - Some cards that are more efficient are so much more expensive to buy that you'd have to mine for 2 years in order to be at the same cost point so it just might not be worth looking for efficiency

3. Electricity cost - The more your electricity cost is, the quicker you can pay off paying more up front for a card in order to save power in the long run

Source: http://miningcharts.com/gpu-mining-comparison-chart/best-price-and-power-usage/
This comparison chart calculates, and visually shows you how much power you're saving, and how long it takes to make up the difference.

What I THINK makes the most difference is that this chart puts it into terms that make sense - it calculates power use and up-front cost per 100 hashes/sec so you can actually compare apples to apples!

1 year ago, I build Rig using these parts :
 . Motherboard Asrock H81 PRO BTC R2.0 LGA 1150
.RAM DDR3 Corsair 8 GB
.SSD 120 GB Samsung
.PSU 1x750W CX and 1x 750W CS corsair
.USB Riser 6pin

So far so good.

 None of that is even CLOSE to the most efficient settings for those cards on equihash.

 1080 ti running at 150 watts will pull 620 sols, for about 4.1 sols/watt vs YOUR less than 3.0 figure.
 1070 ti running at 106 watts will pull around 460 sol/s for over 4.4 sols/watt.
 *SOME* but not all 1080 models can match that 1070 ti efficiency, but they usually want a little more power to run efficiently and end up at slightly lower efficiency as a result - but STILL well over 4.0 sol/watt at their most efficient.
 Those are both using EWBF and are long-term averages, NOT cherry-picked "one reading" peak numbers.

 I'd have to SEE 650 sol/s out of ANY 1070 ti to believe it (one time peak readings do NOT count), even if you're running DTSM or Bminer vs my normal use of EWBF (both of those seem to offer a LITTLE more hashrate at high power settings, same to a hair less at efficient settings).

 The 1080 ti is a "higher density" card than the 1070 ti, but it's a little LESS efficient (even after factoring in "system power draw per card" for both).
 It's pretty close either way though when figuring on a per-rig basis.

Did someone tested bitmain Deep Learning Accelerating Card SC1 600$ ai. card with 16/32 GB?
Cant finde how much hash this card can really do.

QuintLeo is right!

1070ti !

 Does it even exist for sale yet, and does it do integer operations at all?
 If it's like the "tensor" cores intended for AI usage on the Titan V, it's going not going to be mineable AT ALL on.

 As a minimum, it probably needs MINING SOFTWARE written for it, as I'm pretty sure it doesn't support OpenCL.

Those calculations are made for specific algos and valued on RoI with same budged i've counting Price of GPU in my region energy and HashRate

My gpus for fallowing algos:

Equilhash Msi Gaming x 1080
NeoScrypt: gtx 1050
CryptoNight Rx Vega 64/56(they are nearly same in prices and all rest)
Nist5: Msi Gaming x 1080

Imo 1080 ti are bad its just very very overpaid

I have yet to see an 1080 do better than MATCH the 1070 ti on hashrate when both are mining at "max efficiency" - since the 1080 normally sells at a PREMIUM of about 10% to 1070 ti pricing, there is NO WAY the 1080 is "most efficient".

1080 ti when you factor in "total system costs" doesn't price out all that bad per hash vs the 1070/1070ti/1080 - they're ALL very close - but it does lose a little even at the total system level on efficiency vs the 1070 ti and good 1080 models.

It's HARD to beat 460 hash on 106 watts for the card and typically around 10 watts of "system" draw per card from a 6 card riser system.

1080ti currently. They do suck a lot of power though but they do a lot of work to make up for it.

It totally depend on what you want to mine. There are n number of GPU’s mining, which cannot even accumulate the total cost if added all alt coins together. You can check NVidia as it is most preferred and usually every coin can be mined through it.

how is this the wrong section? this is the altcoin mining section... hence OP can ask qs regarding GPUs here. bruh...

What about the P104-100 models ? Some people here have started buying them and are getting pretty impressive hash rates.

The AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 is the most recent GPU from AMD that just commands mining. Stock, it can mine Ethereum at 33 MH/s utilizing around 200 watts however with a touch of tweaking, the hash rate can be as high as 41 MH/s utilizing as meager as 135 watts! This card is just a creature. They are taking off the racks so ensure you get yours when you can.

on 1080 ti i am getting anywhere from 4.3 to 4.9.

I did some research on these and they were getting them to 40+ Mh/s with 180 watt. So that would be the most efficient one. I only didn't find where to buy them, nor a price for them.

There are a couple of them on P104-100 on Aliexpress (http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/NFiqF6Q) and I have requested some prices from B2B providers too. If you can buy such a card for less than 600$, it's probably a very good deal.

That is POOR efficiency for ETH - I see a bit over 100 watts on STANDARD 1070 models to get 31 Mhash/sec as of RIGHT NOW.
Pushing power higher doesn't help hashrate, as they are DEFINITIVELY memory limited.


 On Zcash, 1070 ti cards generally can exceed 4.4 sol/watt on a SUSTAINED basis - 460 sol/sec at 104 watts - don't just look at the "best figure" as that's going to be misleading as all of the current ZCash miners do a "instant check" on power draw and sometimes catch it in a "momentary DIP" that is not representative of what the card was actually drawing for most of the several second period between readouts by the miner.
 This isn't a "miner" issue, as Nvidia-SMI does the same thing.

The best figure I've seen for any 1080 ti model was a bit over 4.1 on a "sustained" basis - 620 hash at 150 watts - but I could see one managing a bit better with more work on "tweeking" done.

 Those figures are using EWBF - depending on the card and the settings, you might seem more out of DSTM or Bminer (I don't do Zcash mining on Windows though except for ONE gaming machine that normally runs Nicehash).

Strix are good

500 sol 120watts
510 sol 130watts

https://imgur.com/a/iejnz

1080 ti dominates with the widest selection of coins and longevity predictions at the moment.

Hash per Watt: 1070 Ti > 1080 Ti > 1070 > 1060 > 1080.

Dollar per hash is all over the board right now with market pricing well above MSRP.

Marketing prices are crazy but is this the new norm for prices even the manufactures like evga where you can buy cards well when lucky are charging more than before so are manufactures suggested retail prices now higher 

I vote for RX470 (60-80W for 25-30 on ETH with straps mod). Isn't it actually the rarest GPU ?


I agree. Buying some models of GPU would have been better than investing in gold within the last year.

An other option is to donating your GPU computing power (and get MEDIC coins rewards) to support protein folding at home project of Stanford University through MEDIC Coin's folding at home initiative.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2753447.0

Or use the LONG_standing Curecoin and FoldingCoin "shared folding" option.
Is "Medic coin" even up and running yet?


RX 470 does NOT pull 25Mhash+ on ETH on 80 watts much less 60 - more like 100-120 in actual usage.
I've got a FEW of those.
GPU-Z does NOT give accurate power draw information, according to my wattmeter, even after factoring in for PS efficiency.

They're not rare - they've just been out of production for quite a while so NEW ones are rare.