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Come spend a few days camping out and testing the technologies to be used to colonize Bitcoin Island.

When: July 18th-20th
Where: Outside Tulsa
Cost: 3 BTC total, 0.5 BTC non-refundable deposit
Registration Deadline: July 10th

This "dry run" event will take place in a controlled environment, near a large city.  But you should be physically prepared for a realistic experience.  This will include working in hot (100°+) temperatures to construct temporary shelter.

Meals are included.  You will need to bring a tent and a sleeping pad or hammock, along with a swimsuit, boots and suitable clothes for 3 days / 2 nights.

Participation is limited.  You will be asked to sign a non-disclosure / limited non-compete agreement.

(Stupidity (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238390.0) in this thread will be deleted.)

Is it ok to ask why it costs so much?

Part will be used for food, part for supplies, part because it's a nice round number.  I'm only looking for people who are seriously interested, and so far that's the going market rate.

When you say technologies, what do you mean?

Also, isn't an NDA/non-compete against the open nature of Bitcoin?

No-one begrudges a Bitcoin business it's proprietary business methods but Bitcoin Island seems to be about building a new society that uses Bitcoin at it's core; one that embraces it's openness.

Physical technologies will be disclosed once the island is settled.  Information technologies some time after that.

Is this proprietary technology that people will need to buy to 'settle' in the community you're building?

There is something ever so slightly 'run for profit, lots of it' about this. 3 BTC to stay on some land, in a tent to learn about some tech?

No one has to be a troll. Just provide more details that would entice people for this opportunity. Shouldn't be a problem if you're serious, OP.

we should invite people to a bitcoin island and make some kinds of survival reality game show sponsored by bitcoin services. For example, there could be a stage that participants have to play satoshidice (if they are one of the sponsors), losing their pants and shirts if broke, whoever tripple their capitals are to proceed to the next stage, etc, and broadcast the show on internet.

Just to make it explicitly clear, if you quote from deleted posts made by the one person in this thread who obviously has no idea what this thread is about, who (due to his apparent status as an "investor") refuses to do even basic research into the Bitcoin Island project, and who continues to ask stupid questions like asking me to "verify my involvement" in this project, your posts will also be deleted with prejudice.


At the moment, there is a limit of 10 participants.  If you think 30 BTC is "lots of profit," I'm not sure what to tell you other than "move out of your parents' basement."

For some background, ...

Bitcoin Island
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82060.0

The thread is locked though (  ??? ).

I have a lot more questions about this project but I get the feeling my questions aren't going to be answered so I'll gracefully leave this thread.

If I can't ascertain whether OP's intent is good or not I can't in good conscience pretend that it's a good idea.

For anyone else still on this thread, good luck but make sure you do your due diligence.

This is technology that makes Bitcoin Island possible, yes.



This is the most recent thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183045.0

This is a great idea and I hope it is properly documented in video form.

I'm trying to figure out what Tulsa OK has to do with an island, anywhere.

Oklahoma is a bit flat, fairly dry and not known for it's island like climate.  How this would have any connection to a "Bitcoin Island" anywhere on Earth is a bit of a mystery.

In middle of nowhere, far from civilization and comfortable living.

Plus it is likely that OP lives near there or owns the site, hence the location.  I have looked into island rentals. They would cost much more than the 30 BTC being collected.

Far from any large body of water is the fact I'm looking at.  Gonna practice fishing in the prairie?

Hmm.. 0.5 BTC non refundable whys that?

Sounds really fishy to me..

And the "experiance" sounds completely retarded and not intising for anyone to join.

I mean who wants to pay 3 bitcoins to go to some place and meet some strangers just to set up a tent and learn about "colonizing a bitcoin island"

Im not sure if this OP is even being serious, but if he is gotta be on the top 10 list of all time scam fails.

If any non-sockpuppet actually pays the $350 without more information given, please notify me. I still have the bridges. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=96481.15)

Haha, id fall for buying your bridges before falling for this.

Could you make an accurate list of things and their cost (and your profit if there is any) that constitute of the 3 BTC?

No, of course not.  What a ridiculous request.  I wouldn't be requiring an NDA if that were the case.

I'm really not sure what motivates so many people from the EU to insist upon casting aspersions upon this project and demanding a minute accounting of 30 BTC.  Are you considering spending 1500 EUR to fly here and attend the Boot Camp, and that's the reason you are concerned about 3 BTC?  Or are you just trolling?

Where did you say what the NDA is to cover?
What's wrong in people knowing that, say, x meals for x days makes up for 20% of the total cost, etc.

If you haven't noticed yet, giving more info would give you more credibility; just wanted to be helpful.

BTW. I found a flight for 1079 EUR from Berlin after a 3 min. search, definitely not considering it now, have fun.

I think you've misunderstood the sentiment about this thread.

It's my belief that there's a feeling you're trying to make a quick buck off the backs of the people you're trying to get to go to your camp.

There's almost no information on what this boot camp is all about.

Are the people going testing your equipment for you? Are you using the results of this test to refine your product which you'll be selling to people? In which case why are people paying you to test your equipment?

This combined with your other thread regarding buying an island makes it look like you're wanting people to just pay for things for you.

Don't get me wrong, if you're running a business, that's great but because there's no clear intention, it's really hard to know where we stand.

Noble efforts to build a community and building a business for yourself are two vastly different goals and it seems like you're building a business under the guise of building a community to me. That's just the impression I get. I might be completely wrong and I'd be happy to be corrected but right now it's not entirely clear what your motives are other than lining your own pockets.

I understand the sentiment perfectly well.  I've seen it over and over again in the Open Source community, for almost 15 years.

It's unfortunate that many people are unable to cooperate towards a mutually-beneficial goal.  If you are one of those people, please don't participate.  You would be a hindrance to Bitcoin Island.

I really have nothing else to say to those who think that 3 BTC is prohibitive.  Don't come.  Please.  I have made the barrier to participation as low as is realistically possible, but it's never going to be zero.  As far as I'm concerned, that's a good thing.  It weeds out the idiots who we don't want to be on an island with anyways.

Are there a lot of tornados there? Not that I'm overly afraid of tornados but being sucked into the sky and living with Dorothy for the rest of my life doesn't sound appealing.

I don't know what you're referring to here. I don't recall the Open Source community objecting to people making money with their software. From what I understand, it's actively encouraged.



I still don't know what this mutually-beneficial goal is. What is that goal? Who benefits? I can see how you benefit and again I don't have an issue with you benefiting. I don't think anyone does. I just don't think your motivation is clear and if you need to keep that motivation hidden, that's also up to you but you can't then complain that people are complaining.


It's not prohibitive... if you're getting $310 of value. Right now I'm not sure anyone sees camping and helping you refine your product so that you can then sell it is worth 3 of any type of coin.


You don't need to beg me. I'd only be interested in coming and supporting you if I knew what you were doing.


I don't think anyone expects you to run a business for free and I don't think anyone wants you to lowball your prices. If it's worth it, you could even charge more. Bitcoin is a currency, not a commune.


So if someone can't afford $310 they're an idiot and you don't want them on your island? Charmed I'm sure.

Edited: For clarity

[I semi-replied to this in another tab and forgot to submit hence the reply being out of order]

It's only a ridiculous request because he didn't realise you were building a business.

I've made it clear what I'm building.  I'm building a Bitcoin Island.  And I've made it clear why I'm not entertaining endless stupid questions from investors:

There is absolutely nothing unreasonable about that.  And 3 BTC is just the first step (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183045.msg2555007#msg2555007), for those who can't afford a proper lot.

It's not even that expensive, when compared with events like Burning Man (http://www.burningman.com/whatisburningman/about_burningman/ticketprices.html) that require you to bring all of your own supplies and equipment, have much bigger economies of scale to work with, and will turn you away at the gates if you haven't brought everything needed to survive, including food and water.  This is downright cheap in comparison.

Regardless, I think I've done everything I can to make this accessible to as many interested people as possible.

That's not a good comparison because there's really good dope at Burning Man.

Post has been updated with a registration deadline of July 10th.