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Why Bitcoin cash is having such price variations in a single day? It almost double this day...

Who is pumping this coin?

It does not make any sense!!!

It would be none other than the bitcoin antichrist Roger ver and Jihan vu who were responsible for creating bitcoin cash by hard fork on august 1.Earlier,it was said that they had a masterplan of activating segwit 2x and creating segwit2x coins just to devalue the bitcoin brand.Simultaneously,they planned to pump BCH very high and then to claim BCH as true bitcoin.Unexpectedly,segwit 2x activation has been cancelled,but the second plan is being executed successfully.Other than this,there is nothing special about BCH other than a shitcoin.

Everyone who wanted 2X

the same ppl that spam the network right now. This guys is so ridiculous that believe they can make their shitcoin the new bitcoin. :P

So the reason is due yesterdar Bitcoin Segwit2x hard fork was suspended  :o

Jihan Wu/Roger and friends obviously. They're going full throttle with their Bitcoin Cash shills, they need to make profit before it's too late. Also, their delusional followers are creating fake news so that people dump their BTC, Bitcoin Cash holders spreading FUD everywhere, Roger & co spamming the mempool with extremely low-fee transactions, they're also using Bithumb for artifical pump...
This is just a well coordinated attack on Bitcoin. But it won't last long, just hold.

I can only be surprised to see a sudden increase, its increasing volume, I can not afford it even can not get 1 coin bitcoin cash, who is behind this increase I do not know anything  ??? ??? ???

No idea who's 'pumped' it to begin with, but everyone right now buying and selling for a short term gain is helping to continue pumping. I trade in A$ and last night it was near $1k, this morning $1.3, should have invested and pulled out quick :D

This is better than Game Of Thrones!!!
I never saw something like this in BTC and in BCH!!!

A few people's dirty games having such an enormous impact on the crypto ecosystem goes to show that it still has a long way to go...

i think we can only guessing for people which doing pumping bitcoin cash because we really don't know who is the pumper and we can only enjoy the ride. I think it will be good for us if we can make profit from the pumping and make sure that we can sell in high price and if the price is up and down too often then its mean we can do scalping but always remember to analyze before buy something and try to take a look the order buy and order sell.

Price manipulation is still a great problem in crypto currency market.  

What's happening at present seems to be the price manipulation to make the alternate network strong as the core asset bitcoin. Else however market fluctuates such a growth with an altcoin is something unexpected. Now people would start investing on bitcoin gold as well expecting the same.

I have a sneaking suspicion that one or more of the developers of Bitcoin Cash have some sway over
Coin Telegraph. See articles below. Does anyone know who is behind Coin Telegraph website or if anyone
connected to Bitcoin Cash has sway over the owner of that news site?

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-reaches-end-of-an-era-expert-blog
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-classic-shuts-down-as-staff-claim-bitcoin-cash-will-rule-in-6-months

Just wait for Bitcoin Silver and Bitcoin Rareminerals or whatever to appear after that,

at some point enough is enough and the damage done to the entire Bitcoin brand and ecosystem will be too severe.

At some point one just can not take this crap serious anymore.

Part of that is because the market is relatively small, and there are still a significant number of large holders.

The same thing happens in regulated stock markets. You have some smaller stocks that are relatively easy for gangs of manipulators to pump.

The key is just to understand that if you're not in on the pump, you need to be very careful about trying to get in. Also, watch order books, even if many orders aren't on them.

I know it happens in regulated stock markets, but it causes distortions and economical crisis. Crypto currency can do it better and fight this.
Probably, order books could be somehow processed and correlated to detect price manipulation. Make these alerts more visible to everyone.

Can exchanges do something to mitigate price manipulation ?

Have you guys not noticed a lot of Bitcoin transactions are stuck since the beginning of the week?
Some people had 0 confirmation 24 hours after they send a payment (with the standard blockchain.info fee). Block size becoming a problem?
We know how powerful Bitcoin Cash can be when it comes to block size.
Bitcoin better moves forward if it does want to become obsolete in the near future...

There is no big puzzle about this. Bitcoincash is going to do a consensus fork on November 13th to fix it's emergency difficuloty adjustment and make it less volatile.

They're pumping the coin to ensure that it is still worth mining when the fork happens.

One fix causes this impact. Wow!!!

Lets wait for the next Ethereum hard fork...

At least they have a community effort to make BCH something worth mining, if we had something like that happening with Bitcoin it would be a giant clusterfuck until the fork came around.

I don't know why there are some people that are so dedicated to making BCH viable, it's a weak (until recently) coin that was riding off of the main chain until people started to dumb retard amounts of money into it. It's not like it matters to me that much, but it seems surprising that anyone would want to be this committed to involving themselves in BCH. But it's their money and their community, good for them if it is taking off like that.

https://theflippening.github.io/open-letter-to-bitcoin-miners-from-another-miner/

https://fork.lol/pow/hashrate

So much denial and ignorance about what is happening here.

Bitcoin Cash is exploding because 2x failed.  

Why?  

Because it means bitcoin core chain will not scale.  It's freaking simple.

Bitcoin Cash is going to have lower fees, faster confirmations, and its going
to be more usable.

Bitcoin Core has chosen to relegate itself to a store of value only,
which is dubious.  ...Or bet on some future off chain scaling that is
just as shaky.

 im thinking someone is trying to kick start adoption by using market conditions to make BCH a bit more attractive than it is. notice the timing of this extreme bump in price, and notice the severity of the bump. im curious to see if the mining capacity picks up as well on bch ;) but this seems like a ploy; i dont think this will be a short term play however. mr wu is still probably wanting bch to garner more adoption than BTC, this is the perfect storm of bullshit that can foster than change, or move us closer towards it.

i will start to get concerned when I see btc lose market cap to bch. that, might be an issue ;)

I'm also a bit confused why this is happening.

I was totally convinced that I had it worked out:   Segwit2x was a feint in order to take mining power off the bitcoin chain but the real point was to make BCH shine

To this end, I hedged buy buying some BCH.    When I heard that the fork had been called off, I thought that the 'take over' attempt had been abandoned so I dumped BCH immediately.  C'est la vie!!

Now it seems they are pumping BCH, regardless of the failure of the first part of their two pronged attack.   I didn't see that they would succeed in the first place.   Now with the community far more aware of what is going on I think they have much less chance of success.

Ver and Wuhan - too much money too quick, they have become legends and gods in their own minds!  They won't become poor but I think they are throwing a lot of money down the drain with this tactic.

What next - always high drama in the crypto world!!!

KEEP BITCOIN SAFE - KEEP IT DECENTRALIZED

I’ve been reading the different posts opened about the subject on this forum and it’s surprising to me that nobody is commenting about what you say.
 
No scalation means that bitcoin won’t become mainstream because of the vast amount of energy needed to do so. This keeps bitcoin far away from Satoshi’s idea of a p2p electronic cash system. I don’t know if hardware upgrades could significantly help, though, as it already happened.

Since I began understanding bitcoin and cryptos world I thought that bitcoin would be the new gold, as it would be used as a store of value, and there would be another or other alts that would be used as the new cash, electronic one. However, that might not be the case, and maybe only those coins able to be used as cash, with fast transactions and low fees, will remain.

I think so who makes the BCH pumping but we can take to the advantage of the BCH price increase, the moment that the fastness can so make to our advantage increases.

BTC is a store of value, "RICH MANS GOLD"

The poor can use BTC-z bitcoin-z, 25billion, cash of the poor

One shoe doesn't not fit all rich & poor

SHIT-COIN is very thinly traded amongst nerds, one of these shit-coins will eventually be adopted, most 3rd world country's now use 'phone credit' as money to transfer buy&sell.

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Just two days ago SEGWIT2 was declared dead!

Why? Because the 'experts' & bitcoin-core ppl now realize that Satoshi was right, that there is NO way in hell you can herd a bunch of cat's especially 51%, when there are millions of cats in a open desert.

All forks are dead,

WRT to the argument about fee's, slow transactions, ...

Fee's are a problem, but U don't have to pay the fee, and if you just wait until the next block u go into the front of queue,

Slow-transactions, again these are problems of fools, certainly 10 minutes or 2 hours is not bad if your moving $1M USD from a to b, what's the hurry?

WRT to buying coffee, well then use BTC-Z, its a penny coin that is essentially 100% BTC with equihash (GPU),

I think BTC will continue to be a 'rich mans' coin, no way in hell the average joe can own a coin, no more than the average joe can own an ounce of gold,

The average american don't have $500 USD in the bank, who in the hell is fooling who here?

NO BTC fork will ever get the 51% consensus, the writing is on the wall.

New Forks, or clones have to be VERY GOOD in order to surpass BTC, very good.

PPL forget these debates are not new, back in the 1990's or 1980's with PC's it was first that mattered, and best, and fastest, you had to be one of the three to be a king,

Same now BTC was first, and there they will stay, as for next tier u must be "BEST" who that be? Fastest again, as all is just a cheap clone, ...

I think 2nd gen BTC will come from somebody who rolls a new block-chain paradigm from scratch and resolves all the problems,

For now BTC will be the MODEL-T, perhaps it will have a 20+ year life, ... who knows, most likely it will become the rich mans gold,

Missing for most people is 'privacy', only they say Monero offers privacy, but it doesn't, thus IMHO the next COIN for the rich will be ...


1.) Fast
2.) Best
3.) Privacy, nobody knows, no public ledger, nobody knows whos rich
4.) untouchable by GOV, not even the NSA can break

Doing 1-4 above will require a team of people who are not sucking NSA cock, or being spoon fed by CIA, or MOSSAD.

Almost all coin including BITCOIN is uncomfortably too close to NSA, same for Monero and its questionable choice of EDSCA integers

IMHO the next BTC will come from some kid in Mexico or Laos, on his PC running his GPU, and he'll develop an ALGO that satisfy's 1-4

The problem with all coin to date, is that it all has vested interest by the "Powers that Be"

Take BITCOIN-GOLD, just a worthless piece of shit, but being pumped by richest guys in china, russia, and bulgaria, ... go figure; None of these are giving the little people what they need & want.

Once again, lets remind all of Satoshi's Vision.

1.) Free banking for all on earth

2.) little to no fee

3.) no transaction cost

4.) anonymous, nobody knows who has money and where

5.) no theft, nobody can steal your money

All governments on earth are organized criminals intent on robbing the sheep, thus the GUYS/GALS to who satisfy the needs of the sheep will NOT come from the status-quo educated elite.

bitcoin prices go up because many buy bitcoin and if bitcoin prices drops as buyers bitcoin slightly. I think bitcoin prices will continue to rise as more and more people are familiar with bitcoin. investors are also getting more and more, this will make bitcoin go up.

i believe there were some group of people that pump it because they think that bitcoincash is just better than bitcoins because of many reasons. and also some whales and team/developers of bitcoincash are also behind on this plan but whatever happens, im still on bitcoins and many people are still believes on the power of bitcon. bitcoin is the original and others are just copy paste.

Perhaps their attempt now is to make BCH a true Bitcoin currency. And I believe that will never happen because everyone believes Bitcoin and never gives it up until now.

Looks like without B2X fork, the bitcoin cash becomes the successful fork with better scalability... who knows, maybe because of that it will become more popular with the real payments need

Because there a lot of newbies here who are just trying to boost their post count, but have no clue about Bitcoin Cash. In my humble opinion, jonald is spot on, block size matters a lot, fees and since a few days now some Bitcoin transactions taking ages to be confirmed.
Investing in Bitcoin Cash right now is a very good move IMO.
Good luck all  :)

In stock market terminology it is called wash sale. Don't be confused. The richest owner is cashing in on Bitcoin Cash. Very simple.

I hope this bubble burst. They will have a lesson do not try to kill bitcoin.
If bitcoin dies, a whole market will collapse.

Maybe not, because the blockchain technology proved to be very promising and seduced tons of people, I disagree with your comment.
That being said, you may be right short term, but long term not so much.
 blockchain is the future IMO and might survive no matter what happens to Bitcoin.

i think because of changes or policies that benefit investors, it becomes an attraction to invest in bitcoin cash. this is very nice.

Because of some sport Betting website called "BOVADA" now accept BITCOINCASH for their transaction. You can check it on BCC official twitter account here: https://twitter.com/BITCOlNCASH/status/929317515414474752

Who knows but bitcoin cash deserves to be pumped. We saw that segwit thing cause too much uncertainty but there is no such thing for bitcoin cash. Also after the update, mining will be more profitable so maybe miners are preparing bitcoin cash for their mining purposes.

You got it my friend.
But it was so obvious, everybody is able to make profits.
200% in such a short time, I really can't complain ;)

i thought they have been accepting bitcoin a while, so not really a news of this scale ?

koreans are p&d'n bch, check volume and origin of it

Agreed, but why was there a short delay, some even talked about a relief rally after segwit fork was called off? BTC/BCC should have moved right away but it didn't.

I guess now people can vote with their money whether they want digital gold or a payment network

What do you think about Bitcoin gold btw?

Every big amount Bitcoin Cash investor still now millionaire.I am very strength because BCH suddenly increased 50%
Very happy moment for all BCH holder.Although i have 1.5 BCH & i try to long term hold.

Delay because it wasn't an expected announcement like some orange crop reports (lol)... people found out at different times that 2x was cancelled...and also took people a little while
to grasp what it meant (just theorezing here).

Bitcoin gold i dont see going places... premine, very small dev community, faulty premise (that we can decentralized better without ascis), and also has segwit.

governments probably
or chinese mafia  8)
there is no sense in cryptoworld, need to think few steps forward..
BCH is a coin that makes rich only BTC holders... it is manipulated since the beginning

Bitcoin Cash investor is very happy today. The miners and some of the rich are pumping Bitcoin Cash. Perhaps they will drop Bitcoin's price to 5,000 USD. Will the investor not run again to Bitcoin when Bitcoin is 5,000 USD? I think it will be, they will come again.

Roger ver and Jihan vu,all of this is a power play.This 2 control asics production and want to control code2 and that will make them in control of everything crypto important.

Of course thise big investors are pumping the coins and the whales are the ones playing or controlling the prices. Maybe they are also pumping the coin because Bitcoin is decreasing its price lately, it would be time for altcoins to increase back its price.

I just bought a lot of bch

I'm starting to doubt btc. I I just did a transaction and it is taking forever. I've heard 1-2 days. If this becomes the norm BTC will definitely be eclipsed by bitcoin cash in a few months

BTC has lost $26Bil market cap in a week. BCH has gained $20Bil market cap in the same period.

At first roger ver and his team pump bitcoin cash and now FoMo kicked in which makes bitcoin cash pumped even more. Their plan is to replace bitcoin with bitcoincash so they can make it centralised. I dont understand why FoMoes really stupid. Becarefull i am afraid you buy bch at all time high..if these person controled crypto its mean bitcoin is not decentralised anymore and i will start campaign to leave this crypto world and buy gold again..

This bitcoin cash pump has gone up way more than anyone expected. At this rate of rise,
it cannot last long before a big dump. Hope nobody gets sucked in buying at these pumped
prices.

 

It took me by surprise but I'm not surprised at it.  

By this I mean, I thought this would happen but when Segwit2x was called off I mistakenly thought game was up.   I had taken a position on Bcash precisly for this scenario but I sold it after the sewit2x news :(

The group of people behind the whole segwit2x and Bcash thing are very wealthy.  They can pump and pump and pump ........and pump.   If you include the theory that the banks are in on this they can pump and pump for ever.

As a decentralized currency bitcoin is the most serious threat the banking system has ever faced.  After 400 years of directing the worlds wealth to their pockets, we have a powerful enemy.   The DCG, behind the closed doors New York agreement and proponents of Bcash and Segwit2x has known ties with the banking sector even going as far as to have a serving Federal Reserve Director as their advisor.

At the end of the day what makes bitcoin so dangerous to them is it's immutability.   Nobody and no group can control it to their own ends.   This pump of Bcash is without doubt an attack which may run the price of bitcoin way down.   It doesn't matter because bitcoin hasn't changed in the least and with growing awareness it will rise again more powerfully next time.

Personally I would like to see bitcoin go down to $3000 or $1000 so I can by a decent stock, although by then I will have run out of money as my first buy point is $5500!!

At the moment Bcash is being bought and sold between themselves.   They will loose a bundle but nothing compared to the money behind them.   Don't buy into it - it is all manipulation.

I am guessing this Bitcoin Cash pump and Bitcoin dump will be over by Sunday night. Let's see
what Monday brings.

no one know it dude who is pumping bch, I think that it is trader to buy bitcoin cash
and a effect the hardfork

And today it's at A$3000!!!

I think the price is being pumped by big investors. These investors probably think that's an good idea, to let the new fork come 13th nov. I think it's ridiculous. I think the developers are trying to make bch better and drop the price of the btc. Probably to pump the btc again. i think this is a strategy. i wonder what will happen next.

By big investors I presume you mean instigators.  Probably mastercard.  Fed,  Ver, Wu et all

Bitcoin cash is great currency. Why? Because idea of bitcoin is that it can be used to pay coffee or foods. But because there is 15 min waiting in bitcoin it is not very good for that. Botcoin cash is great for this kind of fast buying. But I don't think that soo everyone is using cryptocurrencies because goverment will tax it someday because they dont like that there is currency that they can control. I think that bitcoin is new version of paypal and not everyone is using paypal and bitcoin have same destination.

I really did not expect such a rise.
This pump is insane!

The ones who created bitcoin cash and the ones with big pocket and supported bitcoin cash. They are manipulating all the crypto market themselves. And some panic buyers sellers are following them.

Of course it's jihan and ver, they are the one who started this and because of the cancellation of 2x fork, they immidiately pump bch because one of it's feature is similiar with what some of the people wanted from 2x fork, bigger block size. The people who wanted bigger blocksize buy bch and fomoing newbie, makes it pump harder before the whale dump theirs.

do you think that this game end on Monday?

I am not  ;D

why?
any special reason or event

The pump of bitcoin cash is seriously disturbing the market,  and it's giving ETH some sleepless night. Don't you think it is a good time to buy and store these coins, cause this is going somewhere high.

it is mainly driven by Bithumb's user which means South-Korea. Another reason is bitcoins scalability problem. People now go into other currencies. Have a look at this:

https://i.imgur.com/JI9gif8.png

according to that its the korean who's really playing big role with this current pumped i think ver and jihan would love seeing this movement and while btc is still on its downfall other wise traders are joining this current rides with bcc and what do we expect next after surely they will just dumped it and be back to btc so better to play wiser than them guys.

Oh, common  :-X Bitcoin Cash isn't solution for bitcoin scalability problem. Classic P&D with old bitcoin network spamming methods.

Bitcoin Cash will have a fork tomorrow. Some rumors saying Jihan and co are dumping their bitcoin in favor of their own bitcoin cash. There was a 25,000 bitcoins transfer to Bitfinex which some said it's from Roger Ver dumping his positions. And that NYA is actually meant to make BCH the new bitcoin. I don't think they can replace bitcoin this fast. Corrections are coming from that pump now.

Any proofs about transactions? Just rumors and FOMO. Roger Ver is liar. They have no chance to replace bitcoin

I really don't understand why you need Bcash. and why such a pump.

It started off from Bithumb so i expect koreans? + Massive shill of BCH after Segwit2X canceled because of the transaction fees.

Then, natural of humans. Trend following
A massive group of humans just switch because they see BCH is rising

It could be caused by big capital flow into BCH.

I think all the Bitcoin Cash believers pumped BCC and all the Bitcoin disbeliever thought this is the end if bitcoin. In my opinion is this a overhyped coin!

i can sure that the rising of bitcoin cash recently due to the cancellation of segwit2x, therefore miners and developers who supported to segwit2x will change their support and mining to bitcoin cash, so bitcoin cash is rising while bitcoin is dropping, moreover, big whales with big affection want to pump bitcoin cash too.

It seems that all three major Korean exchanges Bithumb, Korbit and Coinone went down simultaneously due to a DDOS attack.
Suddenly, BCH price went down right away. Korean market is the largest buyer of BCH... This coin is very dependent of one market only, it is a sign of weakness.

Miners are switching from BTC to BCH:

https://fork.lol/pow/hashrate

BCH is implementing a change to the difficulty adjustment algorithm on Nov 13 that will do a better job of maintaining 10 minute block times regardless of mining power:

https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-cash-developers-set-date-november-hard-fork/

https://www.yours.org/content/deadalnix-s-difficulty-algorithm-explained-ac50eb2b1f16/

BTC holders are dumping BTC and buying BCH. BTC has lost $26Bil in a week, BCH has gained $20bil in the same time. Price is rising rapidly. Miners are finally going to flock to BCH because there will be more stability in block times and less volatility for them. BTC is grinding to a halt with long block times and unconfirmed transactions.

https://bitcoinandtheblockchain.blogspot.com/2017/08/chain-death-spiral-fatal-bitcoin.html

I understand your point, but this rise in such little time is very suspicious.
Also does not explain, why BCH went from $2,800 to $1,500 in 30 minutes (https://imgur.com/a/VQiYi), when korean exchanges were down. No pumps were possible.

Probably DDoS attack on mayor Korean exchanges that were down twice last 24hours, otherwise trend would continue and most probably will continue soon. Same happend on bittrex - there was a gap, bittrex hanged and suddenly price dropped

John McAffee is pumping Bitcoin Cash too. The whole crew of scammers are all orchestrated on this. Im starting to believe the theory of segwit2x being cancelled a long time ago, so they could have had time to prepare all of this with such synchronized acts. It can't be a coincidence that all this propaganda machine, mempool spam and Bitcoin Cash pumping happens right when segwit2x gets cancelled. This is an attack guys, there's no real support for Bitcoin Cash, it's only scammers. Keep holding your real BTC and dump BCash as quick as you can get yor hands on it. Im afraid we have already bottomed while BCash has already peaked.

obviously the supporters of segwit2x, the miners and the whales playing the market and people panic buying.

Indeed, I think even Mike Belshe from Bitgo is pumping it. I can't find a single person that did sign the New York Agreement that isn't actively pumping BCash ever since Segwit2x got cancelled, which leads me to believe this was a planned "plan B" a long time ago, just in case they didn't win Segwit2x. Even Vinny Lingham is pumping BCash is twitter. It has all become too obvious by now. Manipulation will not last and we are already seeing it crash.

Bigger question is who is buying BCH over $1½k ?

looks like it's pumping again at the moment

I have a pretty strong understanding of the American gambling and poker websites. Bovada is definitely one of the biggest online bookies that accepts Americans to make accounts. BCC being accepted as a form of deposit on Bovada is pretty meaningless for American gamblers and BCC. Americas Card Room which is the largest real money online poker site that Americans can play on announced a month or so ago that they are accepting deposits in over 60 cryptocurrencies. Soon they will also allow withdrawals in those currencies. I see Bovada moving in a similar direction soon where it will be a wide range of crypto they will accept for deposits.

So its a well planned attack after all. And this is not just one individual but group of persons with similar intent to break the system and proved that they are the ONE. And they some whales follow suit just to get more money out of the market. Its really no coincidence as well that the mempool was suddenly clogged while Bitcoin Cash supporters keep pumping their coin. Fortunately, Bitcoin is then pump while Bitcoin Cash is slowing down. It might be a case that people already cashing it out, or going back to altcoins once again. Bitcoin is regaining at $6500 so their planned has already been thwarted.

Of course early adopter which says bch ia the real bitcoin. Who are they ? Roger ver, jihan wu and the fake satoshi ( craig ). I really sick to see that massive pump with all manipulation at it. Many people lost their money now. Bch technologie is not good enough to compete with bitcoin. Bitcoin has many good programer and bch is not. Bch guy want to make crypto centralised by monopolying miner.

And the new btc hype is dying off and so is the price.This was totally not planed pump and dump move ;D

i think they are a group which doing pumping bitcoin cash and finally its attract many traders to follow their trades and they still pumping until the price reach 0.5 btc. but after that, the price is getting dump so hard and now the price is around 0.19 btc. yesterday many traders following the pump and i am sure that they made a lot of profit from this.

I dont think that anyone is pumping bitcoin cash for purpose because it cost a lot and anyone can drop it right away just by selling. You need millions of dollars if you want to star pump currency. I hope that i have some day and then i can make a lot of money with that. :D

Whale, who else? Attack the BTC with small transactions and pump BCH up at the same time.

maybe many of people to buy bitcoin cash because the hardfork tomorrow.
need a lot of money to pump bitcoin cash. we dont know that wo is pump BCH.

BCH being promoted as: "in the best interests of businesses and retail users" by the same group that is disrupting the crypto market doesn't make sense.     No retailer is going to go for BCH or any crypto for quite a while now,  By that time, it will become common knowlrdge that BCH is not sustainable in the long run.

Call me a conspiratory theorist but there is more to this than meets the eye.

I believe bitcoin is a grave threat to the centralised banking system.   They have the most to loose if bitcoin survives long term.

Sure Ver et all can make some money form this pump and dump but its not really about BCH, it's about who controls the number one bitcoin.

I expect there to be a lot more FUD going around and things will get rougher.

Keep an eye on DCG and the upcoming futures exchange CME .   The future exchanges are the ones that have made gold price rigging common practice.   The banks get caught, slapped wrist, pay a tiny fine and go and do it again.

Exactly right. It has now been 3 and a half months since Bitcoin Cash launched. Not even counting all the marketing done before the launch, has anyone actually seen any merchant accepting BCH? Has anyone seen a signature campaign paying in BCH? Has anyone even seen a dice site letting you deposit BCH?

The best interests of people are served when the people are using it. It is not in their interest at all to migrate from a stable Bitcoin to a Bitcoin Cash that seems to be having equihash problems even so early on.

The only interest BCH is serving now is obvious.

Of course is the owner of BCH, I'm sure their mission is to be number 1 and beat bitcoin, I also feel the benefits of this pump and get a profit even if only have a little. I wish there was a bigger BCH pump.

I think you're missing my point.   If the idea is to be number 1 then you would have a good product in place that was sustainable far into the future (think visa transaction volumes).   You would also not create a market scenario where your coin and all other cryptocurrencies are perceived as volatile gambling.   You turn your coin from a blue shark in the open sea - not to a white shark - but to a goldfish in a bowl.

I agree they want to beat bitcoin and all other decentralised coins, they want to beat them into the ground.

The whales are playing with Bitcoin Cash. They take advantage that sewgit2x cancelled to make profit with a coin everyone think will replace bitcoin.

Or losing on this one. The last time I checked the price is just above $1000 but a few days back its been pumped hard that I though it reaches $2000 correct me If I'm wrong. But its just temporary pump because today  the price is having a roller coaster ride, sometimes you will see that the rice is up,  then a massive dump, Obviously people who are behind this pump are taking huge amount of profits while those who bought at the top is losing.

Jihan Wu and Roger Ver will lose this big game, it seems.

The developer and the whales who have been buying bcc/bch and have pumped it so that others get panic when btc price is crashed and only bcc/bch price has been pumped heavily and now see it is dumped hard and still it will go more down.

Sure they will,they allready won way harder then we can imagine.Their own private coin was pumped hard and after cashing out on it they bought cheap btc,how is this lose for them....

People like Roger Ver that want to lift on the succes of Bitcoin.
They are trying to substitute Bitcoin core by spamming the network and doing controlled pumps.
This will make BCH more profitable to mine, so a lot of core miners will mine BCH which slows down the transaction times of BTC network. This causes high transaction fees and basically and unattractive coin to use for micro payments.

Investors from China are holding the most bitcoins and these investors are also dominating the crypto market. The changes in the value of coin during this time have the hand of the Chinese investors.

i bet miner pools especially asian pools are pumping its value to gain so much. And the whales are pumping this to sold to the other investors to realize their gains also.  I want to sell a half of my bch

Mining pools who are recently swapped to BCH to mine it when the bitcoin is the good rate. Because of the miners movement I see that bitcoin value started dumping in the chart and BCH is bumping but I think soon they will return to bitcoin. When they are mining bitcoin also they were getting the decent profit only. Really confuse that they move to BCH and bumping that. Stupid miners.

the same people who pump Bitcoin
politicians probably most

Its nothing strange that miners are driven by profits, you may say they are short-sighted, but they are not stupid, i think if btc community cant balance the interests of all parties, such things will appear more than once

This. They are mean't to be driven by profits, they arn't charities.

Lots of the people moaning about them could easily start their own mining pools. No wait, they can't because it's too expensive, especially the electricity.

They canceled the segwit2x, advertised BCH, while the weekend made pump BCH in the thin market, threw the miners from BTC to BTH, spoiled BTC transactions increasing the number of unconfirmed

In short, the story is going on right now

Wish I could have a 20 minute chat torture session with Roger to find out the complete plan ;D