Title: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: krogothmanhattan on November 13, 2017, 08:20:46 PM Please pm me. Thanks
https://mycelium.com/mycelium-entropy.html Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: Zepher on November 13, 2017, 08:40:32 PM Add me to the list after krogo has been sorted out.
Cheers Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: FFrankie on November 13, 2017, 08:45:58 PM Id like to be third, or I would like to borrow one from someone if that is possible
Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: ChiBitCTy on November 13, 2017, 09:03:45 PM This is pretty damn cool, never seen one of these b4
Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: vizique on November 13, 2017, 10:30:29 PM There were 2 made.
The crowdfunded one and the production one Indiegogo here - https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/mycelium-entropy#/ Looks like about 550-600 made The latter is here - https://mycelium.com/mycelium-entropy.html I (helped) fund it and managed to snag one of the original of that campaign. It will be interesting to see if any of these come to market as I haven't seen them often. Viz Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: krogothmanhattan on November 14, 2017, 12:39:41 PM That's good to know..Thanks Viz :D
Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: krogothmanhattan on November 14, 2017, 01:22:15 PM Mycellium would be a nice as a collectable...but any entropy device that can generate secure paper wallets would be good too.
Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: ChiBitCTy on November 14, 2017, 01:38:14 PM Oh so Mycellium is just a brand/type of "entropy device"?
Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: ChiBitCTy on November 14, 2017, 01:50:07 PM Oh so Mycellium is just a brand/type of "entropy device"? Yes.. indeed. They are best known for their BTC wallet that you can find here: https://wallet.mycelium.com/ They do have other projects as well: https://mycelium.com/index.html Thx MJ. Again once I start to feel like I know a thing or two I find something (entropy device) I'd never heard of b4. They are cool..but isn't it just as easy to save the bitaddress.org webpage to your desktop, sign offline, and then print via non wireless connection? Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: krogothmanhattan on November 14, 2017, 01:53:14 PM Thanks MJ.>I will look into them
ChibitCty >> I have been using their Mycellium android wallet for awhile. The best I have found IMO for my cell! Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: vizique on November 14, 2017, 02:11:37 PM Oh so Mycellium is just a brand/type of "entropy device"? Yes.. indeed. They are best known for their BTC wallet that you can find here: https://wallet.mycelium.com/ They do have other projects as well: https://mycelium.com/index.html isn't it just as easy to save the bitaddress.org webpage to your desktop, sign offline, and then print via non wireless connection? Best practise states that creation of private keys are done on a computer that has never and will never, see any network during its life as a Keymaker. This also goes for the printer used to print out the keys. Viz Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: buckrogers on November 14, 2017, 02:54:01 PM Oh so Mycellium is just a brand/type of "entropy device"? Yes.. indeed. They are best known for their BTC wallet that you can find here: https://wallet.mycelium.com/ They do have other projects as well: https://mycelium.com/index.html isn't it just as easy to save the bitaddress.org webpage to your desktop, sign offline, and then print via non wireless connection? Best practise states that creation of private keys are done on a computer that has never and will never, see any network during its life as a Keymaker. This also goes for the printer used to print out the keys. Viz This is correct. If you want to be "safe" you can get a cheap or old laptop, remove any wifi cards from it or network functionality (as in remove the actual wifi card). Wipe the hard drive or put in a fresh one. You have a few options to either download and install an offline program like bitaddress (via a usb stick) , or run a program like bitaddress off a new or clean usb stick. Find and buy a laser printer with no network functionality, meaning no wifi, no network cable, - usb only. (wasn't as easy as you'd think with all of todays wireless crap built in , out there) Connect your non networked laser printer via usb to your "air gapped" laptop (no network connections to the internet or otherwise) Run the program of your choice, and send the output to your laser printer. Now you have generated an offline paper wallet which you can laminate if you wish or store safely as cold storage. If anyone finds that paper, which will in most circumstances have the private key on it, which is usually next to the QR code and public key, they can simply use it to claim the funds. So keep this in a secure place you wouldn't want anyone to find. There are many other ways to accomplish the end result , this is simply one of them. I hope that may help someone looking to set something like this up in a secure manner. thanks! Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: krogothmanhattan on November 14, 2017, 03:02:47 PM Oh so Mycellium is just a brand/type of "entropy device"? Yes.. indeed. They are best known for their BTC wallet that you can find here: https://wallet.mycelium.com/ They do have other projects as well: https://mycelium.com/index.html isn't it just as easy to save the bitaddress.org webpage to your desktop, sign offline, and then print via non wireless connection? Best practise states that creation of private keys are done on a computer that has never and will never, see any network during its life as a Keymaker. This also goes for the printer used to print out the keys. Viz This is correct. If you want to be "safe" you can get a cheap or old laptop, remove any wifi cards from it or network functionality (as in remove the actual wifi card). Wipe the hard drive or put in a fresh one. You have a few options to either download and install an offline program like bitaddress (via a usb stick) , or run a program like bitaddress off a new or clean usb stick. Find and buy a laser printer with no network functionality, meaning no wifi, no network cable, - usb only. (wasn't as easy as you'd think with all of todays wireless crap built in , out there) Connect your non networked laser printer via usb to your "air gapped" laptop (no network connections to the internet or otherwise) Run the program of your choice, and send the output to your laser printer. Now you have generated an offline paper wallet which you can laminate if you wish or store safely as cold storage. If anyone finds that paper, which will in most circumstances have the private key on it, which is usually next to the QR code and public key, they can simply use it to claim the funds. So keep this in a secure place you wouldn't want anyone to find. There are many other ways to accomplish the end result , this is simply one of them. I hope that may help someone looking to set something like this up in a secure manner. thanks! Yep did exactly that with a new laptop and printer just for offline wallets. But did not physically remove the wifi card. I disabled the wifi from connecting to anything at all. Also BIP encrypted your wallet so in case anyone does find it they will have a hard time figuring out the password! Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: ChiBitCTy on November 14, 2017, 03:34:54 PM Interesting input everyone it’s appreciated! Looks like it’s time for me to get a second laptop/printer.
Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: Lincoln6Echo on November 14, 2017, 04:46:39 PM Oh so Mycellium is just a brand/type of "entropy device"? Yes.. indeed. They are best known for their BTC wallet that you can find here: https://wallet.mycelium.com/ They do have other projects as well: https://mycelium.com/index.html isn't it just as easy to save the bitaddress.org webpage to your desktop, sign offline, and then print via non wireless connection? Best practise states that creation of private keys are done on a computer that has never and will never, see any network during its life as a Keymaker. This also goes for the printer used to print out the keys. Viz This is correct. If you want to be "safe" you can get a cheap or old laptop, remove any wifi cards from it or network functionality (as in remove the actual wifi card). Wipe the hard drive or put in a fresh one. You have a few options to either download and install an offline program like bitaddress (via a usb stick) , or run a program like bitaddress off a new or clean usb stick. Find and buy a laser printer with no network functionality, meaning no wifi, no network cable, - usb only. (wasn't as easy as you'd think with all of todays wireless crap built in , out there) Connect your non networked laser printer via usb to your "air gapped" laptop (no network connections to the internet or otherwise) Run the program of your choice, and send the output to your laser printer. Now you have generated an offline paper wallet which you can laminate if you wish or store safely as cold storage. If anyone finds that paper, which will in most circumstances have the private key on it, which is usually next to the QR code and public key, they can simply use it to claim the funds. So keep this in a secure place you wouldn't want anyone to find. There are many other ways to accomplish the end result , this is simply one of them. I hope that may help someone looking to set something like this up in a secure manner. thanks! Yep did exactly that with a new laptop and printer just for offline wallets. But did not physically remove the wifi card. I disabled the wifi from connecting to anything at all. Also BIP encrypted your wallet so in case anyone does find it they will have a hard time figuring out the password! Even if you generate your private keys offline it is insecure if you use an unreliable rng. So you need true random numbers for max security which is where mycelium entropy kicks in. The Initial state of SRAM cells when switched on is truly random. Another truly random process for example is atomic radiation. Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: krogothmanhattan on November 14, 2017, 04:50:43 PM Oh so Mycellium is just a brand/type of "entropy device"? Yes.. indeed. They are best known for their BTC wallet that you can find here: https://wallet.mycelium.com/ They do have other projects as well: https://mycelium.com/index.html isn't it just as easy to save the bitaddress.org webpage to your desktop, sign offline, and then print via non wireless connection? Best practise states that creation of private keys are done on a computer that has never and will never, see any network during its life as a Keymaker. This also goes for the printer used to print out the keys. Viz This is correct. If you want to be "safe" you can get a cheap or old laptop, remove any wifi cards from it or network functionality (as in remove the actual wifi card). Wipe the hard drive or put in a fresh one. You have a few options to either download and install an offline program like bitaddress (via a usb stick) , or run a program like bitaddress off a new or clean usb stick. Find and buy a laser printer with no network functionality, meaning no wifi, no network cable, - usb only. (wasn't as easy as you'd think with all of todays wireless crap built in , out there) Connect your non networked laser printer via usb to your "air gapped" laptop (no network connections to the internet or otherwise) Run the program of your choice, and send the output to your laser printer. Now you have generated an offline paper wallet which you can laminate if you wish or store safely as cold storage. If anyone finds that paper, which will in most circumstances have the private key on it, which is usually next to the QR code and public key, they can simply use it to claim the funds. So keep this in a secure place you wouldn't want anyone to find. There are many other ways to accomplish the end result , this is simply one of them. I hope that may help someone looking to set something like this up in a secure manner. thanks! Yep did exactly that with a new laptop and printer just for offline wallets. But did not physically remove the wifi card. I disabled the wifi from connecting to anything at all. Also BIP encrypted your wallet so in case anyone does find it they will have a hard time figuring out the password! Even if you generate your private keys offline it is insecure if you use an unreliable rng. So you need true random numbers for max security which is where mycelium entropy kicks in. The Initial state of SRAM cells when switched on is truly random. Another truly random process for example is atomic radiation. So the bitaddress generator not any good then? Thats all i got since i do not have a mycelium entry Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: teeGUMES on November 14, 2017, 08:27:32 PM bitaddress.org is fine but you should do something along the lines of right click/save page as to desktop. then move the file on a brand new fresh usb drive to a computer that hasnt been hooked up to the internet. you are still able to draw and type to create the RNG values. then you just have to worry about your printer haha.
Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: Lincoln6Echo on November 14, 2017, 09:43:37 PM IMHO if you create private keys for others you better not fuck this up. So for max security I would use a true rng to generate those.
So whith mycelium entropy you don't have to worry about the randomness of your rng. Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: Astro on November 15, 2017, 07:30:41 PM I got one of these but lacked a printer with a suitable usb port so it's never been used. I should dust it off and try again.
Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: krogothmanhattan on November 15, 2017, 07:46:57 PM Sent PM
Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: disconnected on November 16, 2017, 12:11:36 AM i am looking to buy entropy device that can generate paper wallets.
pm me if you have one Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: krogothmanhattan on November 18, 2017, 06:23:12 PM Bump
Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: Astro on November 22, 2017, 11:52:49 PM https://i.imgur.com/v75iVbDt.jpg (https://imgur.com/v75iVbD)https://i.imgur.com/rf4ty9wt.jpg (https://imgur.com/rf4ty9w)
Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: krogothmanhattan on November 23, 2017, 12:02:56 AM Thanks..PM sent
Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: hephaist0s on November 23, 2017, 01:37:23 AM I have one of these, too -- just like above, with case & instructions, from the crowdfunding campaign. I wasn't thinking of selling it, but what are they going for? It is pretty nifty. I wrote about it here (http://object2212.com/?p=349).
Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: krogothmanhattan on November 23, 2017, 01:47:26 AM Pm sent
Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: Astro on November 23, 2017, 02:36:10 AM I have one of these, too -- just like above, with case & instructions, from the crowdfunding campaign. I wasn't thinking of selling it, but what are they going for? It is pretty nifty. I wrote about it here (http://object2212.com/?p=349). Awesome write-up! Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: krogothmanhattan on December 12, 2017, 03:39:25 AM Send PM my way...still looking!
Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: krogothmanhattan on December 29, 2017, 04:09:12 PM Weekly BUMP
Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: krogothmanhattan on January 20, 2018, 08:54:27 PM Still on the prowl for one
Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: krogothmanhattan on January 30, 2018, 04:28:41 PM BUMP
Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: krogothmanhattan on March 09, 2018, 06:15:30 PM Bump
Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: Gatorelf on March 10, 2018, 01:55:40 PM IMHO if you create private keys for others you better not fuck this up. So for max security I would use a true rng to generate those. So whith mycelium entropy you don't have to worry about the randomness of your rng. you could also just throw lettered and numbered dice on the floor and be done with electronics, throw darts at a newspaper lol correct ?? Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: krogothmanhattan on March 10, 2018, 01:57:06 PM IMHO if you create private keys for others you better not fuck this up. So for max security I would use a true rng to generate those. So whith mycelium entropy you don't have to worry about the randomness of your rng. you could also just throw lettered and numbered dice on the floor and be done with electronics, throw darts at a newspaper lol correct ?? Yes...but I am looking at it as a collectable item only. Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: Gatorelf on March 10, 2018, 02:23:05 PM yeh that is pretty cool item :)
Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: Lincoln6Echo on March 10, 2018, 07:45:20 PM IMHO if you create private keys for others you better not fuck this up. So for max security I would use a true rng to generate those. So whith mycelium entropy you don't have to worry about the randomness of your rng. you could also just throw lettered and numbered dice on the floor and be done with electronics, throw darts at a newspaper lol correct ?? 1. how often do you throw the dice? 2. It depends on the language how often a letter is used so the probabbility is not equal for each letter.So this is not reliable random. Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: bitkilo on March 11, 2018, 03:44:15 AM https://i.imgur.com/v75iVbDt.jpg (https://imgur.com/v75iVbD)https://i.imgur.com/rf4ty9wt.jpg (https://imgur.com/rf4ty9w) I have one of these, great little device.Got a cheap printer with no wifi that has and never will be connected online as long as i am printing out paper wallets. Less than 1000 sold i believe in 2014, collectors item now. I may be willing to sell for the right price, shoot me a PM I still have the original box it was shipped in and the receipt. Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: krogothmanhattan on May 12, 2018, 04:13:32 PM Come to papa baby ;)
Still looking so please send me a PM if you have one you wanna part with :D Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: vizique on May 12, 2018, 09:47:11 PM I'm as to what people think the current market value of one of these is.
With potentially less than 100 , it could be an interesting amount. Ideas? Viz Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: bitkilo on May 18, 2018, 12:28:28 AM I'm as to what people think the current market value of one of these is. This is why i am reluctant to sell, they are like a usable collectors item :DWith potentially less than 100 , it could be an interesting amount. Ideas? Viz Edit: @Viz, how do you come to the number of "potentially less than 100" ? Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: krogothmanhattan on May 18, 2018, 12:33:01 AM I'm as to what people think the current market value of one of these is. This is why i am reluctant to sell, they are like a usable collectors item :DWith potentially less than 100 , it could be an interesting amount. Ideas? Viz That they are Bitkilo..when you do wanna sell let me know please Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: joe1234 on October 11, 2018, 03:39:15 PM Hi bitkilo
May I ask you why you would like to sell Entropy? 2. What was the original price? Thank's a lot! Joe Title: Re: [WTB]¬MYCELLUM ENTROPY USB Post by: bitkilo on October 13, 2018, 08:52:39 PM Hi bitkilo Hi Joe, May I ask you why you would like to sell Entropy? 2. What was the original price? Thank's a lot! Joe I have already sold my Entropy, didn't really have a need for it anymore and another member wanted to add 1 to his collection. Original price was about 0.14btc or close to, but that was only about $100 in those days. |