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You know the deal. This unit is arriving with me on Monday.

• 3 module.
• 66-71 (or even 80 with the new clock speeds) GH.
• Assume PSU isnt included.
• Shipped from the UK, globally.
• Up to 2btc worth of shipping included (ie if it costs 4 to ship, you'll pay 2).
• Happy to escrow (John K) but you'll pay fees.
• Auction ends Friday 28th at midnight GMT+1.
• Bids extend by 1 hour.

Auction starts  at 100btc. Minimum increment of 1btc.
I reserve the right to withdraw this auction or sell by pm/blind bid.
Timer removed. End time: 2013-06-28+18:00:00

Be sure to find a way to filter out fake bidders and yes, PSU is included. Whats missing is the power cord.

We know about it now! :D

interested, but not with:

I reserve the right to withdraw this auction or sell by pm/blind bid.

I would much prefer to create a binding auction, however there are few things that would prevent this in the current market:

1) People like PM offers. They want privacy, and offers are often time sensitive.
2) Without a deposit, we wouldn't know until after the auction who is willing and who isn't. I wouldn't want fake bids bidding up the amount, nor having a final bid which isn't binding.
3) I would much prefer not to have to rerun an auction due to non-payers, and hence to save a binding catastrophe of next best offers, I add the clause to prevent a mess.

@75 BTC

I'll start it off with 100 BTC

101

At the present difficulty, avalon can only dig 1.6-1.8 BTC.

Thanks for the bump.

there is much time until 28th.

simple solution:
only Members can bid, if a new member want to bid he has to make a deposit.

I bid: 103 BTC.  I would like escrow since I don't trust you.  Nothing personal

do you have a buy it now?

105

I do.

Not a problem

Is this the rule? If so, how much is the deposit, and where does it get sent?

Its not the rule as of now. Unless there are strange bids nearer the end.

avalon = 1.6-1.8 BTC per day ?
5G BFL Jalapenos = 0.14 BTC per day
 :-[

^_^ Yup. People want money printers without spending money.

+1

To be fair this money printer is running out of ink.  It made more than 4 btc just a few days ago and it's quickly screetching to a halt as 1/2 million avalon chips get attached to BKKCoins PCB's.  OP has a reason to imply it's a money printer but the truth is that the diffculty curve is headed straight up making machines like this worth less and less by the hour. 

Now bidding 106

I don't put any words in people's mouths, hence the brief OP. We all know the deal, we all have our investment strategies and outlooks. And you do have a vested interest in keeping other buys away and the price low ;)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/Kevin_O%27Leary_(entrepreneur,_reality_show_personality).jpg/220px-Kevin_O%27Leary_(entrepreneur,_reality_show_personality).jpg

"Your product SUCKS, and with your unrealistic valuation you are nothing but a bottom feeding PIG.  I despise you.
So I'll make you an offer...."

yep, sounds about right  :D

That guy know how to buy!

I forgot to add his famous "You're everything that's wrong with this world", that seems to work too!

Oh, you prefer non-capitalism.  And why are you in a thread about buying a money printing machine again?

Huh?? You read me wrong.  I am all for capitalism.  Love it..

Won't there be thousands of GPU's coming offline at the same time? Might slightly dampen the rise in diff.

GPU mining is dead and won't impact much compared to the half million asic chips that drop in august.

110

Would people prefer me to add a BIN?

Not me, Volcanic just outbid me and I'm probably going to hold.

I'll buy it from you right now, just name your price

Wait, you are offering up a blank check?

130BTC

this auction has just been goxed

Here comes the boom (goxed).

Today it's Monday .. the avalon should be already in your hand now .. show me a pic with any newspaper from today as proof ..

Just walked a mile with the box, give me 30 mins.

Mr blurrycam: http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y530/dogiee/2013-06-24130435_zpsec849e12.jpg
http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y530/dogiee/2013-06-24144117_zpsf0211209.jpg

Sorry, my backup phone camera sucks so much.

I have two offers at 180btc. I will likely be accepting these offers tonight if they are not beaten.

185btc per device- want to buy both

My apologies, I said two offers but that means an offer from two different people and NOT two different units.

Although I have 2 batch 2 units, only 1 is in hand and the other might be a week or so out.

Ok 185btc for one

dogie_avalon1   84,906.73 MH/s   471424 (99.62%)   1792 / 0 / 0   0:00:0
Unit seems to be running well @ 350MHz :) Obviously can't promise this performance as the unit is rated at 66GH but its up to the buyer what speed they want to run at. I'll load whatever firmware the buyer wants before shipping.

This guy is a trolll.... see auction from saturday night

He explained the situation and has paid a deposit in order to bid. He will also prove his claims of a GPU farm tomorrow. For now the bid is valid.

I'm adding an automatic BIN of 220 inc 2btc shipping allowance.

Address is 18nJcco3wh3tLRDKqvWH5hBKo54QLRoF2P, remember to pay from a signable address. I won't be able to ship tomorrow as I'll be in hospital until 4PM, but will do so on Wednesday.

Preorder on eBay just went off at $7225

Order #1453

That is pretty low.

That explains it

When do you think a batch #2 preorder should come in? They seem to be shipping now so maybe middle of July to end to get all batch shipped? Kind of a gamble. Some batch #1 are still waiting to be shipped.

As tradition requests. 100 BTC are you crazy? Total scam. Etc.

Yeah, offering 100% via escrow and trading history is totally a scam.

.. already back from your journey  :D

GPU's ... blades ... and now you are selling avalon's  ???

Not started travelling yet, although these units are so nice and dainty I could take 2 with me.

Never sold a GPU, that was greaterninja.
Sold my blades and those of others.
Yes I am selling Avalons.

72 hours left :)

Sorry man but I have to say this...
Being able to overclock something past its design hashrate is great, but that extra hashrate comes at a cost.  Having the fans run constantly and the hardware running harder adds some risk to the investment.  You're expecting that extra hashrate to equal an increase in value, which is absolutely true, but the extra value shouldn't be proportionate to the original $/Gh basis that you're calculating the value on.  If your buyer is making extra BTC by running it harder, that harder risk should be rewarded.  Maybe increasing the value by 50% on extra hashrate rather than 100% would make more sense, at least to me anyway. 

Another example of this would be the eruptor blades.  They shouldn't be based on a 13gh/s value, but rather a 10gh/s with an overclocking incentive. 

This is just my opinion, if you don't agree with me then just ignore my post.  :)

oops

Blades are probably the worst example to use. They are NOT overclocked at 13GH, they have two clock settings - allowing the user to choose to prioritise power consumption or hash rate.

Avalon based OCing is 'true' overclocking, but at the same time there was headroom built into the chips. Yifu said recently "you finally found it", as he'd posted within the github about this some time ago. There is some risk like everything in bitcoin, and nothing else. You can choose to run the unit at 85 (or higher, I don't have the right cooling here and have to sleep next to this unit) or at 66.

Every bid so far has been for a 66GH miner, I don't think anyone is attaching directed worth to the overclocking as no one can gaurantee it. And think, if I was truly increasing the price proportionally, @100GH that'd be 150% market price for the 66GH units - which I'm no where near.

Oh okay.. thanks for clearing that up

60 hours left :)

190 BTC

Pre approved bid, buyer paid a deposit to John K.

...just in case that was ambiguous, shbtc has paid a deposit in order to bid and the auction is still ongoing.

I cant believe people are bidding this high still.   *shakes head*  That's great for you though

Thanks for your words of wisdom, person who registered 2 weeks ago.

Currently reserved @ BIN of 210, awaiting escrow'ed payment.

WOW!!

who ever bought that.... if they want one for cheaper contact me  ;)

So what that I joined 2 weeks ago. That has nothing to do with anything. I have viewed this site for quite a while and just decided to finally join. Not to mention I day trade bitcoins for the past 4 months. I am new to nothing here.

 ;D

200+BTC ? When they expected break even with that cost? 

But good to you dogie  ;D

@88-100GH, faster than any hardware available on the market

already sold ?

how do you squeeze that much out of a 3 module Avalon?  Have I missed some developments?

Awaiting payment. I guess technically because its BIN @ 210 and not the actual BIN @220 someone could steal it.

Magic. 85-88 would be pretty common, above that needs special cooling.

I'm sure you are not wasting resources, so you are running the beast for sure .. may we see a screenshot  ?

Would like to see a avalon mining at 88-100GH/s as mentioned by "dogie"  ;D

http://img.ctrlv.in/img/51cd5f80098b9.jpg

I don't run it faster because I sleep next to it.

you don't run it faster becasue you will blow the stock PSU.....

this is some classic up selling!

 .. is something wrong with your setup ?

The "24 Hour Earnings" in your provided screenshot are 0.044  ???

This mean your avalon is not running for long time  ;)

Why do you not Show us the "Charts-Page"  ???

Because I took that screenshot on the first day. Remember BTC Guild has a lag time on PPLNS earnings.

As I've said 15x, I am selling a 66GH unit. What the buyer decides to do with it is up to them. At least I don't have to resort to advertising my auction in other's active auctions.

.. do you burnt it already ;D

This is why you are already on my ignore list.

.. would like to see >80GH/s ...

My Equipment is only hashing at >20GH/s  ;D

http://s16.postimg.org/6zmimi6ad/btc.jpg

the avalon units when overcloked can perform upt around 85ghs on the stock PSU....... dogie is not misleading you about this fact. Getting it to achieve more might be possible and would take some customisations, new PSU and lots of tweaking of cgminer and the firmware........


I actually thought your auction had ended Dogie, that is why i made that comment, i did not intend to step on anybodys toes as such

peace

Yeah its likely the PSU will have a finite life if you push it past there, but quite honestly a 2btc 1KW monster PSU is a small price to pay for those extra hashes. Its my belief that the limits with the newest autotuning configs is cooling.

You can't provide a 72 hour average Performance chart, can you  ???

But why  ???

Is there something wrong with your blurry pictured avalon  ???

Yes I clearly broke the unit and then offered 100% escrow to ship it around the world at my expense...

PM bid @ 215

That made me laugh Dogie :)

Yes you do.  You keep posting your annoying comments in my threads.  Stop annoying me.

Lol? I post in your WTB thread doing nothing but clarifying a post you made, so you dig up a 3 day old thread on the 3rd page to chase me saying "QQQ STOP POSTING IN MY THREAD". Welcome to the ignore list.

You are a pest, please ignore me.

I have thanks. Go back to trying to buy in hand Avalons for 88BTC because you think everyone else is ridiculous. Greedy much.

Based on the current difficulty and projected difficulty, operating expenses (electrical lines, ventilation, etc.), and the fact that people are want refunds for batch 3 Avalons a reasonable market price for an in-hand Avalon is about 88 BTC.  An. yes, people paying double that are ridiculous because they will never make their money back.  I told you I was not going to overpay just people there are a bunch of people trying to create all this hype.  However, you seem be angry at those facts and you went and started disrupting my thread. 

Damn, that market determined price is stupid. Ridiculous isn't it, this free economics. Maybe we should all be given a 1/50000 share of a tractor, a pitchfork and 3 potatoes.

If you want to find some sucker to pay some over-hyped price that that is between you and them.  However, I take exception If you start pestering me because I do not buy into your hype.  I already have 3 units so if I wanted to take part in your scheme I would try to find some sucker to overpay too.  The info on my units is at http://cointext.com/bitcoin-mining-profitability-an-example/ so anyone can see what a unit takes in and what it costs to run. 

So save your childish tantrums and goofball responses and show some numbers where an in-hand Avalon is worth more than 88 BTC given all the risks, hassles, and expenses of operating them over an extended period.


 

I believe your car won't survive for more than another 100 miles. $1 per mile is fair. Let me buy your car for $100 or you are stupid.

Troll logic isn't logic.

Forgot you spamming QQ in one of my random threads is me pestering you though. Any more crying and those avalons will short.

You are a goofy teenager trying to rip people off and then you throw temper tantrums when people show you real numbers.  I would not do business with you.

You have to be a teenager to be a teen, I am old. No one but you is throwing your toys about because you can't scam people into selling your hardware at 40% market value.

Boohoo I'm allowing the free market to value hardware, I'm such a terrible person! Please save me! You don't need to worry about people doing business with you, at those prices even the scammers wouldn't LOL.

Right, you have no numbers.  You are hyping numbers from weeks ago when the difficulty was lower which the hopes of tricking people into overpaying.

So the market value fell from 220 to 85 because of a 10% difficulty increase. All the other people currently selling units are also 250% overpriced aren't they.

Keep QQing.

People lie, numbers do not.  There was almost a 100% increase in the difficulty in just over a month.  You extrapolate the average increase every 2 weeks and calculate the return.  subtract out the costs of electric, ventilation, etc.  Some systems may break, your electricity goes out, etc. so there is risk and not units will run 100% all the time.  There is no way you come up with anything close to 200.

If you don't want to bother with that just go over to the Avalon refund threat where several people want 77 BTC instead of an Avalon in a couple weeks (Of course they are running late so there is added risk there) but there is no way you go from 200+ now to less than 77 in a couple weeks.

Some people are just trying to take advantage of others who do not realize how fast these things depreciate.  In fact another day has gone by so subtract another 1.5 BTC and another 1.5 BTC for each day in delay of delivery until the next adjustment.

If you any actual calculation for how you can get 200BTC back from an Avalon you get delivered today within a reasonable amount of time then lets see it and I might take a few.

No one cares what you think, bye.

In other words you have no numbers and you are trying to scam people.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=242627.0;topicseen

Dogie,

What do you think about this article.


http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2013/07/01/china-pumps-bitcoins/

The author says that used Avalon's are now worth between $32K to $49K due to recent sales numbers.

So, Dogie and and dogjunior are having a conversation?

You are grasping at straws because the real numbers don't add up.  Hey look, a vague article written over here has some pumped up numbers from some fake ebay auctions.  Lets use that instead of actual calculations.  You have great business model.

Better than yours xD Hai Im Milly, Milly Bitcoin that is.

Anyway... 2 units were sold via this thread to the two highest bidders. Locking thread, will open a new one for the next units.

For some reason this thread is still getting a lot of views. The new thread selling 2 more units is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240570.100