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For the last few days last week all hopes that bitcoin gold is effort to decentralize bitcoin turn out that people behind this project are all part of highly organized global crime, please anyone who happen to be in locality with this criminal press charges against all this criminal

1.   BTG SCAM post from admin btcpop.co exchanger
casimir1904: 2017-11-14 01:58:16 [ADMIN]
I'll stop the BTG node and not execute it anymore till is sure there is nothing hidden in that as well.
Profile Picture casimir1904: 2017-11-14 02:01:20 [ADMIN]
8000 blocks premined, then released wallet what wasn't able to connect to any peers when mining for their own pool was running, and its very slow syncing still...
Profile Picture casimir1904: 2017-11-14 02:01:29 [ADMIN]
Probably premined more than 15-16k blocks now...
Profile Picture casimir1904: 2017-11-14 02:23:44 [ADMIN]
I'll probably setup a seperated server for scam gold. Not trusting them at all...


2.   1 million worth of BTC were stolen due to mybtgwallet.com phishing http://bitcoinwhoswho.com/blog/2017/11/16/million-dollar-mybtgwallet-scam/ this people can easily compensate those who lost their BTC due to the phishing but they proved to be criminal attacking bitcoin in global scale

3.   just visit their website there is nothing there to to remind people that there is phishing site now running online collecting seed word and private key, how is that someone as h4x3rotab a lead developer that proved planting malicious code in his software be trusted

exchanger and miners please drop support for BTG and annouce it on your website

https://www.cryptocompare.com/coins/btg/post/p_269362



With CERTAINTY its a SCAM, its been researched since August 2017, all the players are scammers, the owners of all the associated websites BTG, BTGCPU, BITCOIN-COIN, are all part of organized ICO-SCAM ring.

The scammers who orchestrate this scam, aren't even writing the code, they're paying 'bounty' of shitcoin to people who write the code as needed, in effect that scammers didn't even have the resources in house to do a BTC CLONE, pathetic when you think how these people are giving professional scammers a bad name.





Fact is nobody would go work for a pump&dump scam operation, not being a real job, thus they just create websites and try to hustle people to work for free.

No way in hell this thing will be operational in 31 hours, right now target is 12NOV@1900UTC

Even if they release so called 'working code' it will take 4 days on average to download the blockchain, as you can't use the bitcoin --datadir=, or copy an existing, you must download and -bootstrap, because this bitch convert existing blockchain from 1mb to 2mb,

In effect even IF there is code it will take days for the POOLS to download and get the blockchain functional, people have been now -testnet mining on POOL.GOLD for 3 weeks, now -testnet mining on btg.suprnova.cc for days, reporting 800K Million sols/sec, which is BULLSHIT, most likely 800k sols/sec, but its all indicative of the fact that NOBODY cares that nothing works.

Solo miners too, once the main-net code is released must download the working block-chain ( convert ) and get it up before they can mine,

I suspect that internally at btcGPU ( bulgaria ) they must have already at the very least have a working block-chain ( its actually easy to enable main-net in the code ), its easy to get the seed-nodes,

But it might be 4-5 days after 12NOV before "REAL MINING" begins, if at all, I doubt code will be released, if its released it will be full of bugs and non-functional, and the team github.com/btcgpu, will fall back into excuse mode and blame DOS for their incompetence, as they have done all along for 2+ months.

This is the best topic so far.
I've also a great experience with BTG, which I've reported already, but I'll repeat it here

"It was really funny, thanks for everyone who was with us and still support our work with your miners.
From the beginning only our pool and suprnova were in "correct" chain, almost all other pools, inc. official one pool.gold were in a wrong one.
We help devs and all other pools connected to main chain and race begun.

After that we found a hidden commission on the btg pool code
https://github.com/StarbuckBG/node-stratum-pool/pull/1
https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues/180

For sure we remove it and inform community is slack and twitter, and inform other pools to check their code.
https://twitter.com/NibiruPool/status/930058290117120000

After that devs was ready to kill us, even Jack Liao joined slack and said what my news are fake, but you can easily check the source code on github, one guy even said what we hacked btg blockchain and make a split.

p.s. pool.gold still takes 0.5% hidden commission, besides the main 1% stated on the pool
for example one block from pool.gold
http://btgexp.com/tx/aab13431bd48461e55c1a5acf7bd3d432a05ad7624d00a70360e019a1f6c3e6c
(ATM they removed all that fees, but I announce this two times in twitter and dozen times in slack before they did it).

Thanks for everyone who was with us and who continue to support us."

They deliberately posted wallet link on this official website which is phishing page, how is that not scam

They already mined 8000 of this scam coin and take fees hardcoded into the mining software they distributing and also put phishing website right at frontpage of their official webpage, how is that not scam

Oh my goodness, I am horrified at this. I am really sorry for your loss. I am really hoping there is someone/people who can assist so you get some justice. I have seen many warning posts, but this one has evidence. I hope people will be careful. People are going to lose loads of money with this scamcoin. This is certainly a scam. Is it true Adam Beck of Blockstream is endorsing this scam coin?

Sadly this community is full of scammers lurking arround. People should be extra cautious and sometimes even that is not enogu

There is a lot of info flying around in this thread and it seems to have just got started so let me leave something here that may be helpful to others popping in this thread.

Be smart. Think first.

• Don't post your private key to an unfamiliar website (you shouldn't really do it at all but there are some cases)
• If you want to recover your BTG: First move your BTC wallet funds to a new address where you hold the private key, wait for at least 5 confirmations, then use the original private key to recover your BTG. The worse thing that could happen is you loose your BTG. Your BTC will be safe.

I don't know to be honest with ya. If it is a scam the evidence will be out there. You just have to go look for it. I haven't looked at any of the evidence myself. I'll hold my BTG and wait it all out as I don't have time to be a detective.

How do you justify developer as honest that deliberately posted phishing wallet site link on their official website and offer miner software that secretly taking mining fee from unsuspecting miner running their software that is official released software miner and wallet, how much more evidence do you want to justify their involvement in this global attack on bitcoin, considering the staggering amount of money involved in this scam and going forward they can simply dump 8000 blocks of their btg and leave the development thats lot of risk to everyone

BTG itself is run by an infamous scammer: Xiang Liao, who is called 'Shit Liao' in China.


https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrencies/comments/7db42c/httpsmybtgwalletcom_seems_to_be_scam/

Coindesk piece about bitcoin gold scamming the public off 3.3 nillion, more will be scammed if the development team still run the network, they can easily send out another scam wallet and then taken more btg and btc and possibly alt coin, please be more cautions trading and using btg

https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-gold-wallet-scam-nets-3-million-illicit-earnings/

Another day another fork, sometimes they become worth something for a moment, sometimes they don't.

Thanks for the article. There are lots of scam one around the crypto-sphere. As a result of this, we all should be very careful before investing in any project. I will spend minutes to check whether the one is a scam on or not. Thank you again.

Via all of statistics I have collected from biggest exchanges and assumptions about the amount of BTC in free holder, by which I mean they keep BTC in cold wallets, etc. There are likely 240.000 BTG in total. And, of course, you can check this number by yourself. It looks like that developers of the project has sold all of their BTG. That's very hilarious, weird, and of course, bloody drama I ever seen.

Why do I have to concern myself with so called forking which seems as mirage. Bitcoin is king and if you are a serious investor focus on only bitcoins or ICO which look promising.

there are many good people here who know more than us newbies. please someone make a new thread to inform people of these scammers. i myself lost a hefty amount to btc red and zeecash and zee cash gold.

This is not FUD, people lose money this is a real scam operation, and bitcoin gold dev seem to be part of it or due to their lack of security measure allow this thing to happen, people lose their life saving, one person almost half million

some info on this? official site providing bugged software? coin price has no change though, for a scam?

Coindesk reported about this scam on their piece here https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-gold-wallet-scam-nets-3-million-illicit-earnings/


Victim are gathering now and start to take action against btg team http://stolenbtc.org

it is irresponsible for the btg team to not make any compensation to those who affected, what they planning right now is give some amount of donation to those affected, that is not right

What a F stupid thread... Do your research first, idiot.

All BitcoinXXX coins are all shit coins,the btc developers wants to replace the existing alts with their stupid BTCxxx coins.

Thats not Scam. Unfortunately, you got phising which collecting all your info's about seed and account access.
This kind of stolen technique has been spread and reported by many member here along this year. You should be careful next time.

We can't be sure that 240.000 BitcoinGold was correct info's, since there is lack of data exposed about.

I cannot argue more about why Bitcoin Gold is a good hard fork coin because I never believe that they're a big joke or a fake coin or a scam.
I believe Bitcoin Gold has a good future and so as Bitcoin Cash.
Bitcoin Cash was pumped last late October this year and look at it now, the price is stable and even moving to the right upper of the graph.
So, just in case if they manipulate or pump Bitcoin Gold like what happened in Bitcoin Cash then that's a good thing.

Hard forks are created to amend the current settings and features into the better one.
Hard forks are good coins too. Whether they're pumped or dumped it depends on investors if they're still supporting or not, why we care? Why you're affected? They're making unlimited hard forks while you have nothing to loose then what would be the problem with that?

Before the fork developers were publish their fork information to public so people will catch up their new project and trying to get people attention to invite them to support their project after the fork. And this time I don't see any scam happening and I believe they are transparent.
People who argue they're scam are just denials.

As I understand it, someone presented themselves to the BTG community as john_dass. He had a link to his web site where he invited users to paste their private keys for their wallets to split their BTG and BTC. That was the scam.

Some users with significant amounts of BTC on their wallets pasted their private keys on dass' web site. Dass ran off with the contents of the wallets.

As I understand it, BTG team when informed, pulled links to the site and posted warnings.

On a separate occasion, an unknown person changed a binary on Github . I understand that it is currently unknown what that change is, or whether there is some scam involved. The BTG team responded immediately. They have run a prominent warning since then on the web site informing users, with advice on how to proceed safely.

The BTG team have been a target of these two attacks. One of these attacks was a scam and is known to have led to some people's funds being lost. The other, no funds are known to have been lost.

It is up to the reader to decide whether the BTG developers have taken sufficient care in the past, and whether they have since demonstrated that they do care and are actively working to protect users. It is also up to the reader to decide how much responsibility the BTG developers have for that initial scam. I'm sure most readers understand that it would be very unsafe to paste private keys to any web site, especially one of little repute, especially wallets loaded with Bitcoin, and especially when leaving Bitcoin on the wallet wasn't even necessary.

To call Bitcoin Gold a scam in it's entirety because they had been targeted hardly seems fair, accurate or balanced. In fact, to target such allegations towards the team appears to be slanderous and libellous.

Bitcoin Gold is clearly not a scam. It is a fully functional network, incorporating the largest exchanges in crypto, with the biggest names supporting the currency. The source code is freely available on Github, and can be compiled and binaries verified to be bit-perfect.

Regarding talk of premine scamming, the white paper can be read here:
https://btcgpu.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/BitcoinGold-Roadmap.pdf

This gives full details.
If there is any good evidence to suggest the roadmap isn't being followed, I'd love to read it. otherwise it is just FUD.

It's sad that people pray on others like that.

Do decentralize network again. lol 
For decentralizing network all miners must have full blockchain on their computers ~ 150gb
What you think how many peoples do that? all using alternative wallets like electrum

Indeed it is. But we must be careful not to blame the wrong person. Otherwise you end up preying on an innocent person. Two wrongs don't make a right.

330+ full nodes of 150gb as of writing. http://status.bitcoingold.org/

hmmmm i agree sir..i can see bitcoin gold continously growing in the market and i dont seen enough proof to.conclude this is a scam..hopefully not coz i olan to hodl some of it...googluck to us:)

I think bitcoin gold is not a scam because I myself see the price of bitcoin gold is good and the movement of coin is also good.

Alt coins such as Zencash shot up by about 36% at the fork block for Bitcoin Gold on 24th October. People were holding out of alt coins waiting for the fork block then got back in. This suggests the coin has excellent market awareness, and at the time would reasonably have been expected to be trading now at 0.16BTC.

Current trading is at about 0.022BTC. A small fraction of the at-fork estimated price.

The worry about BTG possibly being a scam, which we now know is completely false, weighed heavily on the price. As the general investors get to hear the truth of the matter, people will begin to be much more comfortable with holding Bitcoin Gold.

I think the coin will recover from this to reach it's at-fork estimated value.

so a new account makes 1 post claiming something is a scam?  obviously the scam is the post about the scam. the fud and crap in here is unbelievable. very fake and manipulated.

What would be the incentive to post such accusation, the only motivation to do this is to help others not to fall into their trap.