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Title: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: unemployed on June 29, 2011, 03:10:10 PM Edit (03.07.2011) - fixed sorting:
I scraped all bitcoin addresses from signatures on this forum. Here is the list of 20 users with the largest Received BTC.
The full sorted list (http://pastehtml.com/view/az6tr2xga.html) of 810 users with nonzero Received BTC. All 810 users have received in total 135227.70032101 BTC, that means over $2,000,000 in today's bitcoin value moved through their public addresses. Top 20% of users (first 162 users on the list) received 133313.68094269 BTC, that is 98.5% of total. Top 4% of users (first 32 users) received 121680.67078403 BTC, that is 90% of total. Looks like the richest users in the Bitcoin world are more rich than in a typical Pareto distribution of wealth, where 20% of richest people have 80% of wealth, and 4% of richest people have 64% of wealth. Want links to blockexplorer.com? Install Bitcoin Tool (http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/104381). Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: andes on June 29, 2011, 03:15:40 PM Man, no doubt you are unemployed! ;D ;)
Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: Serge on June 29, 2011, 03:16:36 PM Who cares?
Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: BCwinning on June 29, 2011, 03:17:16 PM Who cares? scary hackers :PTitle: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: FlipPro on June 29, 2011, 03:17:45 PM This guy takes his role of troll very seriously here. ???
Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: NO_SLAVE on June 29, 2011, 03:17:59 PM hey great, you just did the homework for someone who may now target them individually.
now why would you do that? ??? Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: SgtSpike on June 29, 2011, 03:19:26 PM You forgot mine (firstbits).
Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: foggyb on June 29, 2011, 03:19:32 PM Yeah save the hackers some trouble, thanks.
Now the script kiddies will be after them too. What do you want, a medal? Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: unemployed on June 29, 2011, 03:23:06 PM What do you want, a medal? I just want you all to install Bitcoin Tool ;DTitle: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: BitcoinPorn on June 29, 2011, 03:24:28 PM Awesome. I think people need checks like this every so often to make sure they know how anonymous their shit is.
I mean, we all know it, but sometimes a reminder like this one, which initially hurts no one, is what we need. Also, thanks for the link back, I'm sure it is in there for no good reason, but whatever lol Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: server on June 29, 2011, 03:33:15 PM What do you want, a medal? I just want you all to install Bitcoin Tool ;DTitle: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: airdata on June 29, 2011, 04:13:01 PM I'm surprised that Slush and Thyco (sp?) are not listed there. Unless it's just because they don't have an address pandering for donations :P
Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: hugolp on June 29, 2011, 04:36:59 PM unemployed whats the point of this?
Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: BitcoinPorn on June 29, 2011, 04:39:53 PM unemployed whats the point of this? I honestly didn't notice at first. I'm a tard. When you use his extension (which I am not, I just know how it functions), all the numbers in the thread become clickable. Proof of concept I guess. I know he has a good tool there, but I think saying this thread is a sad use for it is an understatement. Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: BkkCoins on June 29, 2011, 04:43:54 PM He just wants to show it can be done.
Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: peach on June 29, 2011, 04:45:55 PM Really? I thought dozens of people on these forums had 1000s of BTC...Someone please clarify.
Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: chuckypalumbo on June 29, 2011, 04:47:25 PM What do you want, a medal? I just want you all to install Bitcoin Tool ;DAnd we don't want to, but thanks for putting these peoples accounts at risk. WTF is wrong with people? Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: Lynzoi on June 29, 2011, 04:52:53 PM Haha, awesome, I'm part of the social elite. Start imitating my lifestyle.
I have moved a lot of money around, but I don't think I am really one of the richest on the forum. All this shows is how much money has been moved to and from that particular address. I have a lot of money in Bitcoins though. What do you want, a medal? I just want you all to install Bitcoin Tool ;DAnd we don't want to, but thanks for putting these peoples accounts at risk. WTF is wrong with people? Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: BitcoinPorn on June 29, 2011, 04:54:44 PM Really? I thought dozens of people on these forums had 1000s of BTC...Someone please clarify. They probably do, and they are probably smart enough to have multiple wallets.And we don't want to, but thanks for putting these peoples accounts at risk. WTF is wrong with people? If their account was in risk after this thread, I assure you those peoples accounts were at risk before. No matter what though, still a shit thing to do. Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: AbeSkray on June 29, 2011, 05:00:10 PM Really? I thought dozens of people on these forums had 1000s of BTC...Someone please clarify. A better title might be, "The most tip-worthy users on the bitcoin forum". And even that would be inaccurate, because it assumes that everyone who puts an address in their signature has not re-used the address for other transactions. Kinda interesting to see which forum users are having the most success with their tip jars, though! Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: realnowhereman on June 29, 2011, 05:04:23 PM This list tells us nothing.
There is no guarantee that the address is the only one owned by each person. There is no guarantee that the address listed by the forum user isn't an online wallet; in which case they could have been mixed away instantly. It is a demonstration of why Bitcoin has strong anonymity facilities. Even if you don't use those facilities, there is no way to know that you have or haven't. Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: BkkCoins on June 29, 2011, 05:04:30 PM If listing their addresses here puts them at risk, then BitCoin wouldn't be good for much.
Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: AbeSkray on June 29, 2011, 05:12:51 PM This list tells us nothing. I disagree. Your statement is similar to saying, "Polls tell us nothing because everyone who participates could be lying and there's no way to verify their answers on an individual basis." I agree that the list is not perfectly accurate, but I do think it's a decent indicator of the truth. When large amounts of people willingly volunteer information about themselves (especially if they think there's potential for personal gain) I'd estimate the margin of error to be closer to 0% than 100%. Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: unemployed on June 29, 2011, 08:54:52 PM unemployed whats the point of this? The point - I am using Bitcoin Tool all the time, I find it very useful, so I am wondering why other people are not eager to try it out. I figured out two main reasons:1. People don't see benefits. The point of this thread is to show them benefits - that Bitcoin Tool is convenient and saves time. Because what do you do when you want to examine a bitcoin address (see btc received & sent or list of transactions)? Select the address, copy, open blockexplorer.com, paste the address into the search box, submit and wait for the result. Lots of work. 2. The second reason, unrelated to this thread, is that people don't trust browser extensions (see this poll (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=22767.0)), even pure JavaScript extensions with short code, like Bitcoin Tool. There is no way to access the bitcoin client from HTML/JavaScript on non-local website, but how to explain it to users. That is the real challenge I am thinking on. Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: BitcoinPorn on June 29, 2011, 09:08:44 PM The point - I am using Bitcoin Tool all the time, I find it very useful, so I am wondering why other people are not eager to try it out. I figured out two main reasons: Don't forget reason 3, trust. Security breaches every day fucks up trust, obviously. Posting this thread exposing a lot of information, not going to help build trust. The selling of the Reddit account with the Bitcoin domain, probably didn't help either. There are many reasons why people aren't using it. Me, I just want the ability to customize my own skin, I'm not too hard to please lol Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: Seraphim401 on June 29, 2011, 11:43:03 PM This is why I hate poor (unemployed) people.They have too much time to screw around ;D.
Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: myrkul on June 29, 2011, 11:55:57 PM Sliiightly creepy, But interesting to see, nonetheless.
Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: RodeoX on June 30, 2011, 12:10:37 AM A better title might be, "The most tip-worthy users on the bitcoin forum". +1 It does show how a motivated person could sytematicly find concentrations of BTC. Hopefully their motivation is not theft. Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: Slab Squathrust on June 30, 2011, 01:32:47 AM Really? I thought dozens of people on these forums had 1000s of BTC...Someone please clarify. A better title might be, "The most tip-worthy users on the bitcoin forum". And even that would be inaccurate, because it assumes that everyone who puts an address in their signature has not re-used the address for other transactions. Kinda interesting to see which forum users are having the most success with their tip jars, though! Damn straight. The one I list for begging is the one I used to receive my payout from the faucet. Interestingly some even have less than me. Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: thinkweis on June 30, 2011, 01:39:39 AM Really? I thought dozens of people on these forums had 1000s of BTC...Someone please clarify. Day to day and savings wallets that are not listed here. The people at the top of that list are the people that need savings wallets. Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: unemployed on June 30, 2011, 09:53:19 AM Don't forget reason 3, trust. Security breaches every day fucks up trust, obviously. Posting this thread exposing a lot of information, not going to help build trust. The selling of the Reddit account with the Bitcoin domain, probably didn't help either. There are many reasons why people aren't using it. In my opinion this thread does not expose any information, that was not exposed previously.I think 90% of users do not care much about what is written on this forum, so building trust for this app is just mostly the matter of writing the right copywriting pitch that solves all doubts, choosing the web layout, presenting the app in a context familiar for a user, making the right screenshots, and so on. The product is all right, now the way to popularity is taking the marketing and conversion rate perspective. Me, I just want the ability to customize my own skin, I'm not too hard to please lol I started thinking on that. I'd need to figure out how to do persistent storage for my script in three browsers FF/Chrome/IE, and I'd need to write a html dialog to customize skins. It is at least one day of work. I think it has to wait. Maybe when there will be 2000 installs and more people will tell me that they need it. If there are good suggestions about the looks (colors? margin & padding of buttons? spacing? fonts?), maybe I could change now the default skin.Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: Rob P. on June 30, 2011, 11:07:54 AM Really? I thought dozens of people on these forums had 1000s of BTC...Someone please clarify. Unfortunately (or fortunately), the addresses in most people's signatures are just for the forums (mine is). So, the only thing you see in the blockchain is how much I've receive TO THAT ADDRESS. It has ZERO bearing on my total BTC wealth (or lack thereof), unless I then move everything to a central location (which I don't). I use, and most people do, separate addresses for each mining pool, each forum, and each transaction. Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: saqwe on June 30, 2011, 11:14:51 AM What do you want, a medal? I just want you all to install Bitcoin Tool ;DTitle: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: BitcoinPorn on June 30, 2011, 11:39:35 AM In my opinion this thread does not expose any information, that was not exposed previously. I do realize you posted information that is just out there, you have found a way to easily gather and present it and allow people to just view it in a different way. I will stop commentary on how you are handling your PR and get to.. Quote I started thinking on that. I'd need to figure out how to do persistent storage for my script in three browsers FF/Chrome/IE, and I'd need to write a html dialog to customize skins. It is at least one day of work. I think it has to wait. Maybe when there will be 2000 installs and more people will tell me that they need it. If there are good suggestions about the looks (colors? margin & padding of buttons? spacing? fonts?), maybe I could change now the default skin. Well, here, since you have that in your signature. I guarantee if it looked like this button http://forum.bitcoin.org/smf/Themes/custom1/images/frostee/frostee_quote.png .. you will get more clicks. I made these since I had Photoshop open:https://i.imgur.com/i6N3J.png https://i.imgur.com/VXqSV.png You will notice on the forums here they would of course not stand out like your current buttons, but people will notice them in your signature I believe. Maybe not notice them as much as the current button look, however I believe it is more inviting and trusting to click these. So maybe less views but more conversion. An alternate look could be, when you hit Reply or New Topic, the "Post" and "Preview" buttons have a nice thick look similar to your current ones, but also slightly more inviting than the ones you have. Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: unemployed on July 02, 2011, 01:14:21 PM Well, here, since you have that in your signature. I guarantee if it looked like this button http://forum.bitcoin.org/smf/Themes/custom1/images/frostee/frostee_quote.png .. you will get more clicks. I made these since I had Photoshop open: I like the new buttons. Today I am too busy/lazy to add them, but I definitely want to try them out.https://i.imgur.com/i6N3J.png https://i.imgur.com/VXqSV.png You will notice on the forums here they would of course not stand out like your current buttons, but people will notice them in your signature I believe. Maybe not notice them as much as the current button look, however I believe it is more inviting and trusting to click these. So maybe less views but more conversion. An alternate look could be, when you hit Reply or New Topic, the "Post" and "Preview" buttons have a nice thick look similar to your current ones, but also slightly more inviting than the ones you have. Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: Alex Beckenham on July 02, 2011, 01:28:02 PM I am using Bitcoin Tool all the time, I find it very useful, so I am wondering why other people are not eager to try it out. 1. People don't see benefits. I tried it out, and immediately uninstalled it. I see the benefits, but don't personally feel they outweigh the drawback: messing up web designers' carefully-crafted page layouts. What I'd prefer, would be an extra option in the context-menu, just under "Search Google for 'blah'", that says "Search Blockexplorer for 'blah'". So I can select, and right-click as normal. Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: BitcoinPorn on July 02, 2011, 01:43:30 PM A well done clickable hover over even. I see the point on disrupting others design, partial reasons for wanting to customize the skin.
Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: unemployed on July 02, 2011, 01:53:53 PM I am using Bitcoin Tool all the time, I find it very useful, so I am wondering why other people are not eager to try it out. 1. People don't see benefits. I tried it out, and immediately uninstalled it. I see the benefits, but don't personally feel they outweigh the drawback: messing up web designers' carefully-crafted page layouts. What I'd prefer, would be an extra option in the context-menu, just under "Search Google for 'blah'", that says "Search Blockexplorer for 'blah'". So I can select, and right-click as normal. So I think it has to stay as is. The extension is easy to turn off - one click in Firefox. Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: unemployed on July 02, 2011, 02:01:08 PM A well done clickable hover over even. I see the point on disrupting others design, partial reasons for wanting to customize the skin. Now that's a really good concept, changing the buttons, which will never fit to all pages, to a hover menu.Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: Ricochet on July 05, 2011, 10:22:02 PM Huh. Well that's interesting. Shame that the balance on mine isn't at all accurate, hehe. I've done a lot of transfers to and from (mostly between computers as they tend to keep breaking on me for some reason), re-using the same address just for the sake of it. Suppose I should have used a different "tip" address for the forums, though then instead of being near the top of your list, I'd be at the bottom with 0 BTC.
It's an interesting "ballpark" indicator of overall wealth distribution though, I'll grant you that. Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: TheBitMan on July 05, 2011, 11:21:21 PM Sorry this belongs in the Forbes section of the forum :D
Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: tonto on July 05, 2011, 11:41:34 PM I don't care if he has my account number and people know about my miniscule amount of btc.
If hackers can: 1) find my computer 2) access my computer 3) hack my account 4) hack my truecrypt key Then power to them. It will, after all, only take 674,909,467,304,392,809,907,186,036.3 years to hash my password at 500 Mhash/sec. (tl;dr value: 674 septillion years) Good luck! :) Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: TheBitMan on July 05, 2011, 11:43:00 PM I don't care if he has my account number and people know about my miniscule amount of btc. It's Done. ;D jkIf hackers can: 1) find my computer 2) access my computer 3) hack my account 4) hack my truecrypt key Then power to them. It will, after all, only take 674,909,467,304,392,809,907,186,036.3 years to hash my password at 500 Mhash/sec. (tl;dr value: 674 septillion years) Good luck! :) Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: tonto on July 06, 2011, 04:26:27 AM oops, crap, I calculated for N instead of N/2 (for average time)
337,454,733,652,196,404,953,593,018.16 years Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: BitcoinPorn on July 06, 2011, 04:30:38 AM I don't care if he has my account number and people know about my miniscule amount of btc. If hackers can: 1) find my computer 2) access my computer 3) hack my account 4) hack my truecrypt key Then power to them. It will, after all, only take 674,909,467,304,392,809,907,186,036.3 years to hash my password at 500 Mhash/sec. (tl;dr value: 674 septillion years) Good luck! :) Pardon me, I think usually people leave one of these at this point in the thread http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/security.png (http://xkcd.com/538/) Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: rikur on June 05, 2013, 08:04:54 AM Quote Delivered-To: xxxxxxxxxxx Received: by 10.182.76.195 with SMTP id m3csp70905obw; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 20:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <trojanye@gmail.com> Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of trojanye@gmail.com designates 10.180.185.225 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.185.225 Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of trojanye@gmail.com designates 10.180.185.225 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=trojanye@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com X-Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.185.225]) by 10.180.185.225 with SMTP id ff1mr4255909wic.36.1370401770912 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 04 Jun 2013 20:09:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Kp+TuKc+fRy1YItwHrDp9JWR2CzTZOT+BB3ZOhx0d0s=; b=Uwk53lKPUm7cWQcjyy0lwVwdygLYs5xy2b6iLZg5Cg5RoOZqMDNBh4eMpBI0JF2Vlt cCdoCy+5OIGtupaFPMZAcqSfHIA+bPRZD7OvQmTmUFYKro8Ido1PzIrX8yYlpa6wEL1Z NaZwE3jDqw40Jb4KlCzXFQbfas60lOvwbnzig3j9Lf4iS3ZtY4GPFS7K6/qLAa1GAH9l G4n+6H3XhL9KRr6a4qCb3azOdlkQAbLw2w07ERUeMu3zd6pRBxVmxBym8qzNY0cb7nR4 HJy8lxNSmhH6I1gwkGreK/Efh0XPrQoLU1CMh8RAMT4Nhj2/eOYZqMrVtnHAN3XGA3eZ Dxaw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.185.225 with SMTP id ff1mr4255909wic.36.1370401770909; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 20:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.60.79 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 20:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 20:09:30 -0700 Message-ID: <CAJOKT9-CpOsR=WvqYg4+skS4iVYo=uRa482PA9f5sHKGhH24sg@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Give me all your bitcoins or else. From: Brian Ore <trojanye@gmail.com> To: xxxxxxxxxxxx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Give me your 649 bitcoins or i'll take everything you own, including your email, how do you think I found you? Send me your wallet.dat file or ask me for my address so you can send them to. Sorry Brian Ore, but I just lost my last hot wallet thanks to a bad sudo dd if= command on a Full-Disk encryption harddrive. The rest is scattered among friends and safes in paperwallets. I'll see about reporting you to authorities tomorrow morning. Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: Bytas on June 05, 2013, 01:01:33 PM so pathetic how everyone is crapping their pants because someone made a list of PUBLIC information.
If you are scared of hackers, don't place a donation public key on the forum. Besides, this info is completely useless during the actual 'hacking', if any occurs at all. Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: Stunna on June 05, 2013, 07:18:44 PM Interesting list but in my opinion if you are basing it off largest received BTC it really just means who was the most active transferrer not necessarily the richest. For example someone who frequently bets on SD will have a massive amount of BTC received even if their ending balance is zero.
Title: Re: The richest users on the bitcoin forum Post by: Littleshop on June 05, 2013, 07:57:45 PM I don't care if he has my account number and people know about my miniscule amount of btc. If hackers can: 1) find my computer 2) access my computer 3) hack my account 4) hack my truecrypt key Then power to them. It will, after all, only take 674,909,467,304,392,809,907,186,036.3 years to hash my password at 500 Mhash/sec. (tl;dr value: 674 septillion years) Good luck! :) Obligatory: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/security.png |
