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June 29, 2011, 05:04:23 PM |
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This list tells us nothing.
There is no guarantee that the address is the only one owned by each person.
There is no guarantee that the address listed by the forum user isn't an online wallet; in which case they could have been mixed away instantly.
It is a demonstration of why Bitcoin has strong anonymity facilities. Even if you don't use those facilities, there is no way to know that you have or haven't.
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BkkCoins
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June 29, 2011, 05:04:30 PM |
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If listing their addresses here puts them at risk, then BitCoin wouldn't be good for much.
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AbeSkray
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June 29, 2011, 05:12:51 PM |
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This list tells us nothing.
I disagree. Your statement is similar to saying, "Polls tell us nothing because everyone who participates could be lying and there's no way to verify their answers on an individual basis." I agree that the list is not perfectly accurate, but I do think it's a decent indicator of the truth. When large amounts of people willingly volunteer information about themselves (especially if they think there's potential for personal gain) I'd estimate the margin of error to be closer to 0% than 100%. |
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June 29, 2011, 08:54:52 PM |
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unemployed whats the point of this?
The point - I am using Bitcoin Tool all the time, I find it very useful, so I am wondering why other people are not eager to try it out. I figured out two main reasons: 1. People don't see benefits. The point of this thread is to show them benefits - that Bitcoin Tool is convenient and saves time. Because what do you do when you want to examine a bitcoin address (see btc received & sent or list of transactions)? Select the address, copy, open blockexplorer.com, paste the address into the search box, submit and wait for the result. Lots of work. 2. The second reason, unrelated to this thread, is that people don't trust browser extensions (see this poll), even pure JavaScript extensions with short code, like Bitcoin Tool. There is no way to access the bitcoin client from HTML/JavaScript on non-local website, but how to explain it to users. That is the real challenge I am thinking on. |
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June 29, 2011, 09:08:44 PM |
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The point - I am using Bitcoin Tool all the time, I find it very useful, so I am wondering why other people are not eager to try it out. I figured out two main reasons:
Don't forget reason 3, trust. Security breaches every day fucks up trust, obviously. Posting this thread exposing a lot of information, not going to help build trust. The selling of the Reddit account with the Bitcoin domain, probably didn't help either. There are many reasons why people aren't using it. Me, I just want the ability to customize my own skin, I'm not too hard to please lol |
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Seraphim401
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June 29, 2011, 11:43:03 PM
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This is why I hate poor (unemployed) people.They have too much time to screw around  . |
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June 29, 2011, 11:55:57 PM |
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Sliiightly creepy, But interesting to see, nonetheless.
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RodeoX
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June 30, 2011, 12:10:37 AM |
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A better title might be, "The most tip-worthy users on the bitcoin forum".
+1 It does show how a motivated person could sytematicly find concentrations of BTC. Hopefully their motivation is not theft. |
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Slab Squathrust
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June 30, 2011, 01:32:47 AM |
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Really? I thought dozens of people on these forums had 1000s of BTC...Someone please clarify.
A better title might be, "The most tip-worthy users on the bitcoin forum". And even that would be inaccurate, because it assumes that everyone who puts an address in their signature has not re-used the address for other transactions. Kinda interesting to see which forum users are having the most success with their tip jars, though! Damn straight. The one I list for begging is the one I used to receive my payout from the faucet. Interestingly some even have less than me. |
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thinkweis
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June 30, 2011, 01:39:39 AM |
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Really? I thought dozens of people on these forums had 1000s of BTC...Someone please clarify.
Day to day and savings wallets that are not listed here. The people at the top of that list are the people that need savings wallets. |
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unemployed (OP)
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June 30, 2011, 09:53:19 AM |
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Don't forget reason 3, trust. Security breaches every day fucks up trust, obviously. Posting this thread exposing a lot of information, not going to help build trust. The selling of the Reddit account with the Bitcoin domain, probably didn't help either. There are many reasons why people aren't using it.
In my opinion this thread does not expose any information, that was not exposed previously. I think 90% of users do not care much about what is written on this forum, so building trust for this app is just mostly the matter of writing the right copywriting pitch that solves all doubts, choosing the web layout, presenting the app in a context familiar for a user, making the right screenshots, and so on. The product is all right, now the way to popularity is taking the marketing and conversion rate perspective. Me, I just want the ability to customize my own skin, I'm not too hard to please lol
I started thinking on that. I'd need to figure out how to do persistent storage for my script in three browsers FF/Chrome/IE, and I'd need to write a html dialog to customize skins. It is at least one day of work. I think it has to wait. Maybe when there will be 2000 installs and more people will tell me that they need it. If there are good suggestions about the looks (colors? margin & padding of buttons? spacing? fonts?), maybe I could change now the default skin. |
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Rob P.
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June 30, 2011, 11:07:54 AM |
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Really? I thought dozens of people on these forums had 1000s of BTC...Someone please clarify.
Unfortunately (or fortunately), the addresses in most people's signatures are just for the forums (mine is). So, the only thing you see in the blockchain is how much I've receive TO THAT ADDRESS. It has ZERO bearing on my total BTC wealth (or lack thereof), unless I then move everything to a central location (which I don't). I use, and most people do, separate addresses for each mining pool, each forum, and each transaction. |
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June 30, 2011, 11:14:51 AM |
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What do you want, a medal?
I just want you all to install Bitcoin Tool Why ? yeah why? Werent you also spamming to promote your tool? |
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BitcoinPorn
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June 30, 2011, 11:39:35 AM |
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In my opinion this thread does not expose any information, that was not exposed previously. I do realize you posted information that is just out there, you have found a way to easily gather and present it and allow people to just view it in a different way. I will stop commentary on how you are handling your PR and get to.. I started thinking on that. I'd need to figure out how to do persistent storage for my script in three browsers FF/Chrome/IE, and I'd need to write a html dialog to customize skins. It is at least one day of work. I think it has to wait. Maybe when there will be 2000 installs and more people will tell me that they need it. If there are good suggestions about the looks (colors? margin & padding of buttons? spacing? fonts?), maybe I could change now the default skin. Well, here, since you have that in your signature. I guarantee if it looked like this button  .. you will get more clicks. I made these since I had Photoshop open:   You will notice on the forums here they would of course not stand out like your current buttons, but people will notice them in your signature I believe. Maybe not notice them as much as the current button look, however I believe it is more inviting and trusting to click these. So maybe less views but more conversion. An alternate look could be, when you hit Reply or New Topic, the "Post" and "Preview" buttons have a nice thick look similar to your current ones, but also slightly more inviting than the ones you have. |
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unemployed (OP)
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July 02, 2011, 01:14:21 PM |
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Well, here, since you have that in your signature. I guarantee if it looked like this button .. you will get more clicks. I made these since I had Photoshop open: You will notice on the forums here they would of course not stand out like your current buttons, but people will notice them in your signature I believe. Maybe not notice them as much as the current button look, however I believe it is more inviting and trusting to click these. So maybe less views but more conversion. An alternate look could be, when you hit Reply or New Topic, the "Post" and "Preview" buttons have a nice thick look similar to your current ones, but also slightly more inviting than the ones you have. I like the new buttons. Today I am too busy/lazy to add them, but I definitely want to try them out. |
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July 02, 2011, 01:28:02 PM |
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I am using Bitcoin Tool all the time, I find it very useful, so I am wondering why other people are not eager to try it out.
1. People don't see benefits.
I tried it out, and immediately uninstalled it. I see the benefits, but don't personally feel they outweigh the drawback: messing up web designers' carefully-crafted page layouts. What I'd prefer, would be an extra option in the context-menu, just under "Search Google for 'blah'", that says "Search Blockexplorer for 'blah'". So I can select, and right-click as normal. |
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July 02, 2011, 01:43:30 PM |
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A well done clickable hover over even. I see the point on disrupting others design, partial reasons for wanting to customize the skin.
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unemployed (OP)
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July 02, 2011, 01:53:53 PM |
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I am using Bitcoin Tool all the time, I find it very useful, so I am wondering why other people are not eager to try it out.
1. People don't see benefits.
I tried it out, and immediately uninstalled it. I see the benefits, but don't personally feel they outweigh the drawback: messing up web designers' carefully-crafted page layouts. What I'd prefer, would be an extra option in the context-menu, just under "Search Google for 'blah'", that says "Search Blockexplorer for 'blah'". So I can select, and right-click as normal. It's a good idea, but an extra option in the right-click context menu is impossible in a Greasemonkey extension. I'd have to develop separate add-on extensions for each browser FF/Chrome/IE. So I think it has to stay as is. The extension is easy to turn off - one click in Firefox. |
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July 02, 2011, 02:01:08 PM |
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A well done clickable hover over even. I see the point on disrupting others design, partial reasons for wanting to customize the skin.
Now that's a really good concept, changing the buttons, which will never fit to all pages, to a hover menu. |
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July 05, 2011, 10:22:02 PM |
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Huh. Well that's interesting. Shame that the balance on mine isn't at all accurate, hehe. I've done a lot of transfers to and from (mostly between computers as they tend to keep breaking on me for some reason), re-using the same address just for the sake of it. Suppose I should have used a different "tip" address for the forums, though then instead of being near the top of your list, I'd be at the bottom with 0 BTC.
It's an interesting "ballpark" indicator of overall wealth distribution though, I'll grant you that.
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