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Title: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: Eb0la on June 26, 2013, 10:45:34 PM BE CAREFUL WITH THIS ONE! I had posted ASKING ABOUT ESCROW and they deleted my post and locked the TOPIC
ACCOUNT CREATION DATE WAS TODAY. NO ESCROW>>>> NO DEAL! Original Topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=244124.0 Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: Eb0la on June 26, 2013, 10:50:27 PM keeping a log just incase they delete my posts.
ESCROW? Your post was not deleted - Please don't delete my post again. Escrow will be impossible with the number of orders we will have to process. Please read our history above, we conduct trades and business in the $Millions :) . WHAT HISTORY? Your account was created TODAY.. HAHAHAHAHAH Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: richgene on June 26, 2013, 10:50:45 PM Well that escalated quickly....
Looks like he deleted the original post and started a new one to add self-moderation to it. ~richgene Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: Eb0la on June 26, 2013, 10:54:04 PM shady as fuck
This account was also created today.. Unless escrow is provided.... Its your own damn fault people if you get scammed! Yes, we created it in order to release the product here, please read my posts more carefully, I did not say history on this forum...thanks for your input :)Please direct me to some history. I re-read the topic and I see nothing compelling to make me believe you have physically minted any coins. Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: Eb0la on June 26, 2013, 11:00:00 PM Well that escalated quickly.... Looks like he deleted the original post and started a new one to add self-moderation to it. ~richgene I will link to the original as well https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=244117.0 Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: Maged on June 27, 2013, 12:15:20 AM Just saving this here in case it's deleted:
SCAM! Thank you for the constant bumps :) Yes that is one of our designs we used to implement our LiteCoin design right into, not only to save on cost but we personally like our design.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIedccBuDy8 http://www.ubbcentral.com/store/item/img-large/2012-proof-silver-royal-australian-mint-%245-domed-coin-crux-southern-sky_121107091215.jpg Hey retard scammer, if you think you can delete my posts faster than I can post them you are wrong. Bye! You stupid incompetent fuck, you are talking with (web) designer here. Your modification of the coin above, to make it Litecoin, is just pathetic. You do not know even how to put text "10 LiteCoin" on a path, one of the basic lessions when it comes to design. Now, fuck off! :D Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: FiiNALiZE on June 27, 2013, 12:22:54 AM 100.1% sure it's a scam.
Photoshopped pics, no escrow, business in the millions (Yeah fucking right, show us the proof). Whoever falls for this, I'm sorry but there's no hope for you anymore. Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: CryptoBullion on June 27, 2013, 01:06:36 AM first thing i noticed was the pics are obviously not real photos of coins, just photoshop like last post says.
My pics were deleted from the server i had them on, but here is a link to some very cheap bullion that im selling. I was gonna add more then i started making pools. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=205626 not as pretty as the fake coin in the fake pictures but i can guarantee my coins are real! lol. I even know how to use the US Postal Service. Ive shipped about 25k items for my own lil ebay business i used to run, and shipped 1000's more at the place i worked for ~10 years. long story short, if you want to get some bullion for your btc ill make a trade you can trust. I do plan on adding some shinier pieces of bullion. i actually have one sample i can post a pic of. Im getting annoyed with lousy pic hosting sites. anyone know of a good free pic hosting site that wont make me link my all my social accounts and also let me link pics on the forum? Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: Physical-LTC on June 27, 2013, 01:13:34 AM 1st coin was originally our design, we decided to use for our silver LTC coin, second Gold coin was the design we chose for our Gold LTC coin... Thanks for the advertisement.
15 + orders so far, keep them coming... :) Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: craslovell on June 27, 2013, 01:38:53 AM 1st coin was originally our design, we decided to use for our silver LTC coin, second Gold coin was the design we chose for our Gold LTC coin... Thanks for the advertisement. 15 + orders so far, keep them coming... :) Preying on the stupid and helpless. You're no better than the banks we are trying to rid ourselves of through cryptocurrency. You are a stain on this community. Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: broken_pixel on June 27, 2013, 01:41:01 AM They keep deleting my post here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=244126.0
Come on the guys stats seem legit. Summary - Physical-LTC Name: Physical-LTC Posts: 38 Activity: 14 Position: Jr. Member Date Registered: Today at 11:08:18 AM Last Active: Today at 08:37:58 PM -9: -2 / +0(0) Warning: Trade with extreme caution! Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: Maged on June 27, 2013, 03:03:23 AM Wanted to save this:
Alright, well I have just added a Scam warning to the thread heading. I will explain my actions, so that you can either fix what is wrong, or just give up if this is indeed a scam. The [SCAM WARNING] tag isn't necessarily a permanent thing if you can provide a reasonable doubt that you are indeed a legitimate business owner. 1) You claim to have orders, but no one is coming forth and saying anything about it. 2) Lack of escrow is alarming, but not an offense all together. Combine with the other factors though, it leads to serious concerns 3) You claim to be affiliated with a large Precious metal trading company, but not eager to provide any sort of proof to your claim 4) Linking in with #3, when I asked you if you would ship to Australia, that was actually a test. Australia has incredibly strict silver importation laws, I figured anyone working with APMEX would be at least aware of the $1500 minimum order needed as per APMEX policy due to these restrictions. This taken from the Australian Customs page: Country Conditions for Mailing — Australia Prohibitions (130) Coins; bank notes; currency notes (paper money); securities of any kind payable to bearer; traveler’s checks; platinum, gold, and silver (except for jewelry items meeting the requirement in “Restrictions” below); precious stones (except when contained in jewelry items meeting the requirement in “Restrictions” below); and other valuable articles are prohibited. As I said before, please note, if you can otherwise prove you are not a scammer, and you are indeed a legitimate business, I will remove the [SCAM WARNING] tag. But with that many red flags, it is in my best interest to attempt to protect the Bitcointalk members with the warning. Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: FiiNALiZE on June 27, 2013, 03:07:59 AM Ouch that guy got buuurned ;D
Glad the community is getting smarter Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: Maged on June 27, 2013, 03:08:13 AM Lulz the Royal Australian Southern Sky proof (http://www.ramint.gov.au/media/press-releases/2012/20120815.cfm) is shaped like a dome. I can't wait to hand someone a dome-shaped LTC coin. http://shp.hu/hpc/elemkepek/ezustpanda/ezustpandaujdonsagaink_3cPX1360594412.jpg Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: FiiNALiZE on June 27, 2013, 03:17:58 AM Hahah he's posting gay pics now.
Aww is the little kid mad he couldn't scam? Go choke on a dick Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: SaltySpitoon on June 27, 2013, 03:21:11 AM Yes, I issued him a scam warning, and he deleted it. So I trashed his thread, and he is now upset posting obscene images. The Banning will commence in 3... 2... 1... special thanks go out to Maged.
Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: craslovell on June 27, 2013, 03:21:58 AM Wanted to save this: Alright, well I have just added a Scam warning to the thread heading. I will explain my actions, so that you can either fix what is wrong, or just give up if this is indeed a scam. The [SCAM WARNING] tag isn't necessarily a permanent thing if you can provide a reasonable doubt that you are indeed a legitimate business owner. 1) You claim to have orders, but no one is coming forth and saying anything about it. 2) Lack of escrow is alarming, but not an offense all together. Combine with the other factors though, it leads to serious concerns 3) You claim to be affiliated with a large Precious metal trading company, but not eager to provide any sort of proof to your claim 4) Linking in with #3, when I asked you if you would ship to Australia, that was actually a test. Australia has incredibly strict silver importation laws, I figured anyone working with APMEX would be at least aware of the $1500 minimum order needed as per APMEX policy due to these restrictions. This taken from the Australian Customs page: Country Conditions for Mailing — Australia Prohibitions (130) Coins; bank notes; currency notes (paper money); securities of any kind payable to bearer; traveler’s checks; platinum, gold, and silver (except for jewelry items meeting the requirement in “Restrictions” below); precious stones (except when contained in jewelry items meeting the requirement in “Restrictions” below); and other valuable articles are prohibited. As I said before, please note, if you can otherwise prove you are not a scammer, and you are indeed a legitimate business, I will remove the [SCAM WARNING] tag. But with that many red flags, it is in my best interest to attempt to protect the Bitcointalk members with the warning. That was very clever of Salty, love it! Thank you guys for taking care of that idiot. People like that can do nothing but harm the image of cryptocurrency. Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: Tomatocage on June 27, 2013, 03:22:16 AM 15+ orders my ass :D
Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: forsetifox on June 27, 2013, 03:27:15 AM He mad.
Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: coblee on June 27, 2013, 03:28:45 AM Thanks SaltySpitoon! The way you uncovered his BS is brilliant. Thanks for so quickly clamping down on this. Some people have not been around long enough to spot these obvious scams and may be tricked. Especially with self moderated posts when all the negative posts get deleted immediately.
Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: btcee on June 27, 2013, 03:32:41 AM Thanks SaltySpitoon! The way you uncovered his BS is brilliant. Thanks for so quickly clamping down on this. Some people have not been around long enough to spot these obvious scams and may be tricked. Especially with self moderated posts when all the negative posts get deleted immediately. Thank you, indeed. 10 of my posts were deleted in that thread. https://i.imgur.com/q0gYILF.png?1 Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: coblee on June 27, 2013, 03:37:46 AM Yes, I issued him a scam warning, and he deleted it. So I trashed his thread, and he is now upset posting obscene images. The Banning will commence in 3... 2... 1... special thanks go out to Maged. SaltySpitoon and Maged, what's the point of self moderated thread anyways. It just seems like it's only useful to perpetuate a lie (or a weird joke) like: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=218388.0 Or used for scams and such. Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: efx on June 27, 2013, 03:38:28 AM :) Reptar, You are a true asset to this forum and what is left of the community. ;)
I believe the self-moderated forum threads are an unnecessary risk. Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: Tomatocage on June 27, 2013, 03:38:55 AM Thanks SaltySpitoon! The way you uncovered his BS is brilliant. Thanks for so quickly clamping down on this. Some people have not been around long enough to spot these obvious scams and may be tricked. Especially with self moderated posts when all the negative posts get deleted immediately. :DTitle: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: FiiNALiZE on June 27, 2013, 03:47:35 AM I think the best way to have Self-Moderated threads is to have a mod manually check it over before its posted.
That'll cut down on the BS Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: GSnak on June 27, 2013, 03:48:24 AM This effort was so bad it was kind of humorous. I consider it a numbskulled attempt at satire.
Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: SaltySpitoon on June 27, 2013, 03:50:58 AM Yes, I issued him a scam warning, and he deleted it. So I trashed his thread, and he is now upset posting obscene images. The Banning will commence in 3... 2... 1... special thanks go out to Maged. SaltySpitoon and Maged, what's the point of self moderated thread anyways. It just seems like it's only useful to perpetuate a lie (or a weird joke) like: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=218388.0 Or used for scams and such. Self Moderated threads can be incredibly useful for legitimate business owners, or service providers to eliminate unnecessary spam. For example, if someone wanted to create a thread about a new Litecoin service, it could be spammed by 20 people who don't like Litecoin. In that case, deleting their posts is completely necessary, or the comments could lead to arguments and further thread derailment. Although there is potential for abuse, they are more beneficial far more often than not. However, I brought to attention the fact that moderator posts can be edited or deleted in Self Moderated threads, hopefully that will get cleared up. Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: efx on June 27, 2013, 04:27:18 AM Hmm, those are good points.
However, I would view such slander as a perfect opportunity to present the facts as they actually are ;) In my opinion, those with an agenda simply create an alternate thread, thereby increasing overall spam/useless post counts. There's several 'legitimate' business owners that may have had less success in their schemes if it weren't for self moderated threads. I say let the free speech that has been honored by this forum (for better or worse in some cases) be complete and do what it does best, the truth eventually comes out. The long con is often hard to predict, the occasional reminder never hurts even if the opinion may often be somewhat delusional. Anyways, you are here discussing the situation and that's truly excellent, regardless of the final decision(s). :) Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: SaltySpitoon on June 27, 2013, 04:31:44 AM although it could go either way, its one of those decisions that you have to make, do you penalize the people who aren't going to abuse the system to hit the people who are? If you look at general crypto/libertarian philosophy, the answer tends to be no.
Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: coblee on June 27, 2013, 04:34:01 AM although it could go either way, its one of those decisions that you have to make, do you penalize the people who aren't going to abuse the system to hit the people who are? If you look at general crypto/libertarian philosophy, the answer tends to be no. How about you can only make self moderated threads if you have a certain activity number? That makes it impossible for someone to make a few posts to get out of newbie jail, then immediately create a self moderated thread to try to scam others. Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: YipYip on June 27, 2013, 04:34:39 AM although it could go either way, its one of those decisions that you have to make, do you penalize the people who aren't going to abuse the system to hit the people who are? If you look at general crypto/libertarian philosophy, the answer tends to be no. I think if the moderators are on their game like in this instance we have nothing to worry about ;) Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: SaltySpitoon on June 27, 2013, 04:44:02 AM How about you can only make self moderated threads if you have a certain activity number? That makes it impossible for someone to make a few posts to get out of newbie jail, then immediately create a self moderated thread to try to scam others. Not a bad idea at all, I've opened up a thread on the Staff section about issues with the self moderation system (people being able to edit mods) I'd be happy to add that suggestion to the thread (accredited to you of course) Title: Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- Post by: TECSHARE on June 27, 2013, 04:57:06 AM I few reasons I support self moderated posts:
-Limit troll activity from competition or hobbyists -Allow a small controlled space for personal OPs -We cant expect moderators to wipe our little tushies every 10 seconds -Moderators don't suffer if a thread is being hijacked the OP does -Moderators couldn't moderate at this kind of level for everyone even if they spent every second of every day modding -Make the OP responsible for their threads, not the mods -Nothing is stopping people from posting in trading discussion, scammer accusations, trust, or even the very same section as the OP. part of free speech is also having your own forum for your opinions. Hijacking a thread and trolling is often used as a form of censorship or instrument of harm on otherwise legitimate dealers. A handful of people can easily destroy a business plan if they put some effort into it via nothing other than slander, especially in a community so reliant on trust via reputation. |
