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Hey Guys Im interested in possibly mining monero with my cpu on a laptop. I'm currently mining zoin but I heard you can mine monero as well with a cpu. Is it still possible to mine it and also does anyone know where I can find a how to guide for mining it with windows 10?

Thanks

If you have 8 core i7 laptop, you can mine about 20 cents a day, but you have to keep in mind cost of laptop repair, as
on average it'll die after about 9 days

You omitted the only important thing in your question which is what CPU you have. There's no difference between mining with laptop CPUs or desktop/server CPUs other than the thermals (you're a lot more limited with the laptop in terms of cooling), so any guide written for CPU mining will apply to you as well. Download a miner (xmr-stak, for example), and point it to the pool — that's pretty much the whole "guide". :D All the instructions (number of threads, enabling large pages etc) come with the miner.

You are most likely going to kill your laptop...it's not worth it. Build a "desktop" computer.

cpu laptop not good, maybe use desktop

It seems like you are torturing your laptop, very unfortunate if your laptop is used for mining activities. before you do so think first of the risks that you will face with your laptop.

Sorry, I didn't go into more detail in my last post...the best bet is to build a budget desktop computer that you can add GPU's later. Is there a Microcenter near you? They have killer deals with rebates etc.


There is also the option of just buying the currency of your choice, but mining is fun and educational.

Continue mining zoin, because monero with your laptop is worthless and you'll kill it

How many of you have actually seen "killed" by mining laptops? :) Although it's obviously far from optimal setup for mining, how the hell do you kill a laptop with it? When the temperature rises above certain point the CPU will just start throttling. If it's still not enough and the temperatures are too high it'll just shutdown. It's not 1999 anymore, you don't just "kill" hardware with overheating. If you mine with your laptop long enough, your thermal paste and thermal pads will need to be replaced a lot sooner than from normal use, and your fans might eventually need to be replaced, but you still won't kill your laptop and it's very similar to regular mining rigs where fans also die, especially on cheaper GPUs with sleeve bearing fans (= gigabyte amd rx series).

Yes you can mine Monero with  your CPU but the issue is that in a laptop your cpu will be running at around 90°C most of the time and will be throttling, which will cause after a while your laptop to break down, being it either the power phases that would run over 120° for an extended of time or your CPU it self.

So my suggestion is that you don't use your laptop and look for a desktop, it's not worth being it in terms of income a few cents that will not offset the price of electricity and putting your laptop under stress.

If you have no other choices and you want to learn about CPU mining, You need to see if you have a fan controller and you can control your laptop fan speed with software such as SpeedFan to ramp up your fan speed high enough and to monitor the temperature. Also if your laptop is off warranty and you are used to open it, try to change the TIM with a better one and get more air to the components as well.


I have a couple of laptop failling on me not from mining but from numerical simulation such as CFD or thermomecanical simulation, leaving my laptop doing the calculation for a couple of days, resulated after a couple months of dead laptops each time, that's when I coincided to never invest in a highend laptop, and got my self a good desktop and an ultrabook so I do the simulation on the desktop and export the result to the laptop for the sake of presentations for example

 Laptops WILL overheat and die if you stress them too much - I HAVE had to repair some that folks admitted running stuff like the DNet client on (which is a cryptographic-type program that is VERY similar to many mining algorithms in how it stresses a CPU) or Prime95.

 Thermal throttling has limits, and most laptops PUSH those limits very hard to achieve the level of performance they DO manage to get to.

 Also, it's not always the CPU ITSELF that dies - it's often the motherboard because parts on IT are overheating due to excessive high-stress workload - like the power conversion circuitry.


 Not all RX series cards use cheap sleeve bearing fans (and not even all Gigabyte cards do) - reference Sapphire and the Gigabyte "Aorus" line - though far too many do so.

You can do minig on your laptop, but the thing is that the profit will be lesser as compared to other mining devices.

Take the advise of the previous posters. Never mine with a laptop unless you want to overheat and destroy it.

I had to learn this the hard way. Started mining 24/7 on my intel i3 laptop last April but by June it would no longer boot. Computer service center said that the CPU was fried and beyond repair.

Mining on a laptop would get so hot, and (probably) fry it at some stage! If you're mainly interested in learning about mining and how to set it up before getting a full rig, then go for it, but turn it off after a couple minutes!

I am interested in a similar question though - if you have a mining rig, which runs on a cheap pentium 4 type arrangement, could you (profitably) mine ether on the gpu's and monero on the cpu? Or would the electricity costs and strain on the low range cpu outweigh the 10 cents extra or whatever it is you'll get from mining.

It is not advisable to mine Monero on laptop as it may put your CPU into death and resting place and also it is not profitable to mine on a single CPU laptop but for educational and reference purpose it might do the work but making it as a work horse may worsen your laptop as it may generate more heat, even laptop cooling  device might not help.

You won't get anything from mining monero on Pentium 4. It's so old I'm not even sure it'll even work for xmr mining. But even if it will, you'll spend a lot more on electricity than you'll get in coins. The earliest intel CPUs I would consider for xmr mining are the nehalem gen processors, preferably the 6-core 12mb l3 CPUs. They're quite power hungry, but at least they'll be able to mine something. Wouldn't even bother with the earlier Core 2 and Netburst generations, wouldn't actually bother with anything without AES-NI support.

At least which CPU we need to mine Monero ?

Let me google it for you :) https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/guides/how-to-mine-monero/
"Part 1 - CPU Mining" - this is what you were looking for

 Even with MY curiosity, I'm not going to waste time trying to get mining running on my old "now a media center" P4-2000 based machine.
 Doesn't help that it's running 2k, and the oldest OS I know of that supports a Monero miner at ALL is XP.

 About the only way I can think of that you could "mine" on a Pentium 4 is to run the Dnet RC5-72 client via the MooWrapper project on BOINC and earn a microscopic amount of GridCoin - but you will NOT earn enough to pay for the electric usage or even close.

I'm interested in this as well, not specifically Monero, but any altcoint that can bring a solid profit. Since im new in the game, im having a hard time mining anything...
I have i7 7700k, and I got COOLER MASTER 212 LED Turbo Dual Fan few days ago to keep it cool.  I get about 75h\s on btcheat  on 70% load & 60C temp, and some good profits there as well, but I would like to get some crypto as well...Any ideas?

7700k should be doing ~ 300 H/s on cryptonight (XMR, ETN). Even more if overclocked.

It's very common, I lost one laptop with the same thing. Tried mining for nothing actually, 3 weeks after it, the mainboard of the laptop was burned. Then It costed me abour $250. The amount I mined was only $12. Can you imagine this?

Never try to mine Monero with CPU.

Just because you've managed to burn 1 laptop doesn't make it a "very common" thing. Lots and lots of laptops run very hot for years and survive just fine. I'm not advocating for mining on laptops of course, it's not a very good idea in general, but people that say how mining will kill your laptop 100% are very similar to people that say mining will kill your desktop. You know, it's actually a very common thing — people that don't know much or anything about mining saying how it kills graphics cards very fast. :) While in fact it does kill them sometimes, it's not "very common", especially if done right.

Something like cryptonight doesn't tax the CPU that much, and if the laptop has decent cooling and the ambient temp is not too high — it can be done. Would I recommend it as a way to make money? No. But if someone already has a laptop and wants to experiment — go ahead. Just know your cooler's limitations and watch out for temps (exactly the same principle applies to mining on desktop/server hardware). If the laptop is not complete crap then it is designed to sustain prolonged 100% cpu loads. You know, a lot of professionals use laptops to run video encoding / 3d rendering / compiling tasks.. not everything is done on workstations, you regularly need to do these things when you're on the go as well. It's hours and hours at 100%. And people do this for years.

Dont just mine if you dont have a good GPU man because you will waste alot of days to make like 200cents for a 890dollars laptop which can fry out and die and then your are dead too

It is so funny that people are talking about this topic at all.

I tried mining ETN yesterday, and got 125 h/s max on it...maybe I'm doing something wrong?  ??? ???

You're using the wrong miner I guess. I'm mining with xmr-stak-cpu. Claymore's cryptonote miner should be similar in terms of hashrate as well.

300 hash seems kinda sad for a high-end high-cost CPU like a I7 7700 - I get THAT much out of my much lower cost FX-8320e CPUs....

300-310 to be picky - and that's NOT overclocked at all (not sure if it does the boost clock thing when mining XMR though).

7700k is the best gaming CPU money can buy, at least it used to be before intel released 8700k. Mining is kind of a side job for it, if you already have it in your desktop then why not mine with it when the system isn't used. Of course buying 7700k just to mine monero is ridiculous and no one does it. :) FX-8320e looks pretty good for this, seems like amd has been dropping the price for a while and they're only ~$90 now, a reasonable choice for some systems (and they also support ecc unbuffered ram, also a plus).

Here you can mine XMR in a funny way.

http://u2cloudmining.winspiral.net/monero_mining.php

You work in a team and in the team you take part in contests.
Soon you will be able to trade your minershares for real cash.

You can set your CPU level...so if you are afraid about...set "low"

May be if some one can list the best system config-mining s/w and corresponding per day earning. It will help greatly.

Is possible but you would need to have a repair for your laptop for mining 24/7. Even if you would have the new ROG Strix GL702ZC by Asus with an MSRP of $1499 it will be destroyed within weeks of mining 24/7 along with using the RX 580 inside it. So in short you can mine using a CPU or a laptop but it is not worth it because it will take a long time for you to mine any tokens/coins and only the your electricity will go up.

I suggest that if you have $600 to $800 go buy a dedicated rig if you want to mine just do have some consideration of your electricity because in some area it really cost so much so it will not be profitable.

The most easier monero mining is to start with minergate, there is guide in the downloads and yet they have GUI interface miner for windows 10 too. Check it at https://minergate.com (https://minergate.com/a/f57d1a129bb17f215a314dd8)

wow this thread really took off since I last checked it haha :)

Thanks for all the advice I don't think I'm going to mine monero with my laptop for right now. Although I do have some old shitty laptops that I might mine it with :) Just wondering does mining zoin wear out your cpu like monero could possibly do?

Coins don't wear out CPUs, high temperatures do. Run an xmr miner and check the temps you're getting. Run zoin miner and check the temps. Compare. :)

you can try,but I believe you will mine so much than almost nothing with your new laptop or  old laptop.

For people like you I have programmed a system you can mine strageticaly and earn...
Look the winner on my minero mining page...you will see that some people have mine strategicaly (for les then $0.01 in XMR) but by me have earned more then $0.10

This is the strategic side of the winspiral's XMR mining.
I do not say it is easy...I just say it is strategic for the ones who have a laptop  :)
Often people do not agree with me when I talk about earning a little and having fun...
they say fun does not exist in earning...
Believe me...i have members who are interested in the earning with fun and not in the amount only.

I'm a big fan of mining for GridCoins while my notebooks are idle. Even if the coins don't earn much, at least science gets to benefit as well!

You can try Verium : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1540023.0

btcheat is a scam, don't waste your CPU cycles on that site..

Verium is by far the best CPU-mineable coin right now (in my opinion)....i.e. if you want to just mine some and hold it....

If you are looking to make some BTC, try nicehash miner..that ll be the best option if you are looking for immediate profit.

 No reason - I'm not saying DON'T do it, I'm just impressed it isn't any BETTER at it.

 I have only one thing to say about GridCoin.

 MOO!

 9-)



 Actually, that's not entirely true - I do have a few CPUs working YOYO for the time being.

from my experience it is not worth the time mining from a laptop even with the best cpu.. you laptop may abandon you too out of abuse

I tried mining monero with a phenom 2 b55 and it was really a waste of time and electricity if I was solely mining xmr with gpu as well its extra hashes but on its own not worth it.

NO, minergate seems to be a scam.  There are a lot of complains on the net on it's false statements about profitability which is a few times less in reality.

i think you should mine zoin with cpu

it is why I have programmed a system where you are not only paid for your mining,but as well for your strategy.
My system is the only system allowing you to earn a $cent with only few hashes.
I have never seen this otherwhere.

Consider building yourself a decent computer with good cooling,

I mine intense on my Lenovo Yoga 910. 130 H/s in a 15w CPU is not bad.

I also have my Surface (go figure) connected 24/7 mining verium for more than a month and it still didn't die.

Sure you can mine monero using your CPU however if you are using your laptop CPU you would risk damaging it. If you really want to mine using a CPU better off buying a desktop GPU if you wait until next month or March the unlock i3's and i5's of Intel's coffee lake alosng with entry level motherboard will be released. Or if you want go buy a AMD Ryzen CPU. Any of the Ryzen 5 would be good for starters or if you are on a budget go for a Ryzen 3.

Of course I have 2 desktops mining also.

My point is that if hardware manufacturers can't sell a laptop that if used within specs will die from heat, they don't deserve to be in business.

I can't remember reading on the instructions that you can use the laptop, but not to hard, or it may burn...

Before it burns,it will freeze...(it's funny to write this)

Normally using 100% cpu should not burn your laptop,but it will slow down your normal use,so it is non sence to mine and to use an extremly slow laptop.(this is as well for all PCs.)
It is why it is interesting when the user can set the mining power heself.

The most important is if you mine or not to have the fan clean and not full of dust.

my desktop  i5 2500 without OC and standard cooling makes ~200h/s on monero with cryptonight  @max. 60°C and 40Watt

it will be good for you if you use desktop for mining.you can mine monero using your laptop but it will causes heat that will reduce your laptop's speed and also durability. if you use laptop then make sure cooling system is super.but best option is using desktop with better cooling system.

I mine on it when I'm not working, of course. Because it is only a dual core / 4 Mb cache CPU, doing something else will bring Hashrate down to 30-50, no point on that. I leave it on a mRain design aluminum stand, connected to power source.

Even so, as I said, 130 H/s on 15W is not bad.

And pay attention that mining monero is not that hard on CPU. It doesn't use hyperthreading. Windows taks manager shows xmr-stak-cpu using 60% of CPU.

CPU Mining of Monero ist still possible in the background with good hashrates, even if you are working on the desktop. With my i5 i get 150 H/s still when i'am working, mining on xmrpool.

With your hashrate, you should earn on my system using it few minutes.
But do not forget that my system is 90% a game profit and only 10% mining profit.
The game consists to earn more that otherwhere...it's all.
Why mine by winspiral if one can earn more other where and why mine otherwhere if one can earn more by winspiral.
If you are able to take the best profit from my system,then you earn more...i do not say you earn much,but you earn more.
Why earn less if you can earn more by winspiral?
I let you answer yourself.

I have members who mine by winspiral few minutes daily...so long they earn for these few minutes more then otherwhere,so long they will keep up mining by winspiral.
But perhaps they have to change the strategy...perhaps mining few minutes more or few minutes less.
You are the mining managers...you chose your strategy.

 Laptops are not INTENDED for 24/7 or constant high-workload usage - never have been, never WILL be.
 Their small size limits how much heat they CAN dissipate, that's inherent and unavoidable if you are going to have a laptop that CAN BE a laptop.
 There used to be a form factor commonly known as "luggable", but it died 'cause it wasn't portable ENOUGH and was still somewhat lower performance than a true desktop.

 Most DESKTOPS aren't intended for that sort of usage.

 Running a laptop 24/7 or at constant high load is NOT normal usage for them that the manufacturer can be expected to TRY to design for.

With all thermal management features modern CPU's use, having thermal induced damage in modern hardware it's simply not justifiable anymore.

If a CPU runs at spec'ed temperatures and they do not rise, the cooling system is properly designed. Now they have to have surrounding components that can handle that too. If OEM's can't provide that, they are providing a bad product and cutting corners. Yes, most do it.

My Core i7 7500U has a Tjunction of 100ºc. It runs @ 70ºc 24/7 with 2 threads on xmr-stak.

I design power electronics for a living and I can assure you that products are almost never made to be capable of running at 100% max power continuously. Is it good engineering to put in some kind of thermal throttling? Absolutely, but higher temperature operation always results in reduced lifespan (the rule of thumb - based on the Arrhenius equation from chemistry, oddly enough - is that every 10C increase in temp cuts lifespan in half).

And as QuintLeo pointed out, laptops are not really intended to be used 24/7 anyway. Heck, cordless tools, automobile engines, arc welders and all sorts of other commonly used things would quickly die if run at max rated output continuously.

EDIT - appended continuously to last sentence... forgot that the first time.

 In computers, SERVER designs are intended to run at 100% load 24/7 - but that's about the only thing in Computers that is designed for that sort of condition.

 LAPTOPS are too cramped to provide the kind of cooling design to ALLOW for that sort of use - the primary design consideration for almost all LAPTOPS is "long battery life" and doing everything practical to save on power usage.


 Cars can handle running 24/7 - if you run them WAY UNDER their max speed.
 Even most "endurance" type race cars aren't designed to handle running more than 1 day at a time - and a LOT of them break during races DESPITE being "designed to handle the stress".

You actually just completely agreed with what I wrote! Servers are an exception, perhaps, in that they are designed - or specified, anyway - for operation at maximum load, but like anything else they will last longer if run at reduced load.

Oh, I see a mistake in what I wrote: the last line should read, "...would quickly die if run at max rated output continuously," to reiterate the similar statement made earlier.

Mine with the CPU must certainly have a high speck, can not be done with a CPU that has a regular speck. The CPU used to mine must be able to withstand high temperatures, because during mining the CPU will continue to work for several hours. Associated with window 10 or other it depends on the application used. But it's better to use windows that support mine effectively.

Laptop is not a good option for mining Monero.
I suggest to build a dedicated mining rig.

Hello,

For those who can be interested , i just modify a bit and bring the node js app from cazala into a docker container. So you can juste run it with your key site (coinhive or other) and that's it, you are mining.

https://hub.docker.com/r/deckbsd/coinhive-heaven/ (https://hub.docker.com/r/deckbsd/coinhive-heaven/)