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I received an email from Yobit about this Bitcoin Liza. My first thought was, is this another bitcoin fork? since the name was Bitcoin Liza and again derived from Bitcoin. So anybody knows about it? Is this really another fork? Well, whatever it is, for sure it's another bitcoin wannabe. Forks now are big jokes, they just make fun of it and destroy the true essence of fork for bitcoin. By the way, I just noticed that naming these bitcoin wannabees right now are getting worse.  ;D

You are right, this is becoming a bit ludicrous and damaging the image of the original Bitcoin in my opinion.
Cannot get much information on Liza though.
Yobit is a reputable exchange, I am very surprised they list this coin, looks like this is still an official fork at this stage. What's the point? Apart from trying to make money on "air" I am not sure...  ;)

Oh well, i think that is just another coin, alt coins nowadays keep on sprouting like mushrooms, one after the other at some point it can affect bitcoin in a negative way as people will get confused as to what coin should they invest in but in my opinion bitcoin will still thrive since majority knows bitcoin than any other coins, i am not talking about the traders what i am pertaining to are the people who just use bitcoin in everyday life, like entrepreneurs and such. I don't know about this Liza if this is going to be a coin as well but i will research on that.

LOL, this is getting ridiculous. Guess forking Bitcoin is a new trend, eh? New forks are coming every day. I'm not against it, sometimes I really wanted to store my Bitcoin in exchanges that list those shitty forks futures quickly, like YoBit for example. Unfortunately, they have a lot of issues and I read tons of bad reviews from their user. Couldn't risk my BTC there.

By the way, who started this Bitcoin Liza? Couldn't find any links besides Yobit announcement via email. Is this Yobit-made coin? Oh, don't tell me.


Not really. Yobit reputation is not good. They are known as exchanges that list the most shit coin, besides hundreds of bad reviews (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=406594). So, its not weird that they list this weird Liza thing. If Bitfinex or Bitstamp doing this kind of things, now that's really surprising.

Not really. Yobit reputation is not good. They are known as exchanges that list the most shit coin, besides hundreds of bad reviews. So, its not weird that they list this weird Liza thing.

This Fork thing started after that Bitcoin cash news explode.  Now,  a lot of hard forks are getting created because of the main purpose,  money.  Now I think Bitcoin Liza is just another one of those pump and dump altcoin.

I admit that this "Bitcoin Liza" has a funny name and I can't resist to laugh. I wonder why they named it that way? ;D But anyway, if this is another attempt to pull down the price of bitcoin then I'm not scared anymore because bitcoin already prove itself enough that it cannot be drag by the large number of altcoins out there. I think this is just a fake news but if it is real, then I'm sure that it will have the fate like other forks have — still defeated by btc.

yes, I saw a message from yobit in email, but did not have time to read it. I do not think it's important so I do not read it, you do not have to bother with it. this is just altcoin that takes the name of bitcoin. yes maybe what you say is true. and this is a joke

It seems you can only get this new token at the rate of 1:100 when you had your bitcoin at Yobit at the time. I doubt that too many people will have that anyway....

BTW after "Bitcoin Liza" announcement, unknown LiziCoin token was pumped up 191% at Yobit :)))
https://yobit.net/ru/trade/LIZI/BTC

I think most of us received an email with that. I think based on the email there are 2 forks that takes place in december 16 and also january 16 2018 i dont know if it is true but it is base on my email and also the email of my friends though the name of the bitcoin fork is really annoying to pronounce and also it is something weird but it is still fork and we dont know what will happen next

Yobit always inform there your with email notification about new listing coins to exchanger. In such way Yobit send mail to every user. Even I have also received.

But, LIZI and LIZA are two different coins listed on Yobit exchanger. LIZI is already available for exchange. But still LIZA not listed on exchanger. Soon will get listed counter is running.

Not have any info about LIZA on coinsinfo section of Yobit.

"balances (1:100 btc) will be added 29 nov"
So it cannot be fork from december 16

it's still not clear whether it is phishing and spamming or fork from the yobit exchange creators ???

I think this is not phishing but indeed the status of this coin is not clear, If Bitcoin Liza is only available in yobit exchange then most likely it's just shitcoin

that is really unfair though. Yobit should do these kind of announcements much faster. 44 hours (according to the email i received) is not enough time to act on it. i don't check my Yobit-related email every day to catch these things. and i have already missed dumping YOB2X thing which they did for SegWit2x coin because i saw the email late otherwise i would have made some deposits!

with that said this one is not worth the effort. it is a 1:100 distribution and a worthless airdrop too. and the project seems mostly like a joke to me anyways.

i received an email about that bitcoin liza .. i didnt read that email actually coz i thought it was just an advertisement or whatsoever ..
but if its another altcoins or fork , i hope this is not just a shitcoin seeking for an attention  ;D

One thing I'm sure of, those forks are categorized into unofficial forks since there were really no formal announcements. Real forks will be announced right, including its progress and developments until crypto community knows that a specific fork will push through or not. Maybe this Bitcoin Liza is not a fork, I guess its just another ERC20 based token which name was based in Bitcoin to attract other crypto users. 

I don't udnerstand..
Is it fork or only fake fork on Yobit?
If I hold my bitcoin can I get Bitcoin Liza too?

Strange situation: fork, fork, fork... ;D

I'm very suspicious to all new forks, so, I would not waist my money on that fork.

i read it in my mail also from yobit exchange regarding the listing of bitcoin liza. Its weird, another fork? they are only riding with the fame and success of bitcoin so they put bitcoin also in the name of their coin. This is also going to be a pump and dump coin so if you are planning to invest in this coin, better to change your mind

Does liza have website?

Maybe at first. liza coin look good and the price goes up
But we fear sudden dump Especially with 10 percent daily ( investbox ) yobit

I invested and then I came out

Forks are the flavour of the last few months, sure it will pass soon.

oh this Lisa on yobite flies, constantly pampy it)

Yobit already added that Liza but I think its more a yobit own coin like how they created yob2x overnight.

this is crazy ; liza coin pumped more than 3 time from 13000 satoshi to up 45000 satoshi now  :'(

I regretted going out of the investment

I did not sell immediately, because I thought that there would be a pump - I waited for 6 days, I could not stand it and sold it yesterday) and today x2 from the price that was yesterday when I sold it is very upset that I did not have the patience and did everything as a beginner

What the hell are they thinking they want to do forks everyweek are they replacing alts with BitcoinsXXXX?

How to claim this Liza coin? Is it available on coinomi too?

I would like more information about this coin.
thought here I'll find (( Does liza have website?

another fork of bitcoin and  will get huge growth and down fast.

you check from email it’s trusted Yobit or scam

Ya it is true that Their are so many developers who are taking this hardfork as joke and medium of earning extra bitcoins and same thing Yobit is also trying it. Yobit is not a reputable exchange, which ever coin if ready to pay for listing can list in this exchange whether the coin is scam also they dont bother until they are earning through it. So be carefull when you are trading in yobit as lot of coins which they are manipulating are in maintenance wallet. no deposit and withdraw allowed in that coin

I also saw this letter at Yobit. But I did not understand what kind of coin it was and where it came from. It seemed to me that the coins were issued by the administrators of Yobit. And therefore sent letters to users with the announcement of a coin.

Liza is so great  :-* 10%/day

At this point, you have to understand and accept YoBit for what it is. For newbies like me, coins like LIZA offer an opportunity to make 10% daily in Investbox, and if value rises, all the better! Thank you YoBit

After all, value and price are two different things! So the price will be the value we attribute to it!

Peace and Love to All.... ;D ;D ;D

How did you receive this bitcoin liza? Is this an altcoin or bitcoin fork? I couldn't understand from the thread and there is not information on the Google about this.

I wonder bitcoin liza and its price charts. I can maybe buy with $400.

Well I have to cancel my words about Yobit, I thought it was reputable but read everywhere they offer fishy coins.
They also offer Bitcoin Hot so here is another one with a fishy name and likely to disappear soon.
The more Bitcoin will have forks, the more people will realize it is useless to pay attention to them anymore.

Another shit forked coin supported by Yobit, I dont think anyone else supported it other than yobit. No wonder the Russian exchange is lurking money from these shit coins.

As I understand, Liza is yobit locals fork. This coin have a good investment option +10% per day on yobit.
One coin Liza price for last two days is ~$7.5, and this price will not fallen until investment will exist.
By administrations words it will work for 2-3 month (till end of Jan-Feb 2018).

It is a good option to double your investment per one week, but risky.

It is.
Only when you had bitcoin on Yobit on the fork time.

It have a good investment option on yobit, and price depends only by it.
But no one know when it actually investment will be cancelled (check my previous message about terms) and coin will be fallen.

they just announced that they won't cancel investment for 2-3 years...crazy. Check their Twitter

Scam coins from the stock exchange scam, try to earn on their customers in addition to the commission also on the growth and PR fork

https://yobit.net/en/trade/LIZA/BTC

Invest LIZA for 10% Daily interest!!!
https://yobit.net/en/investbox/

It's scam, to my mind. Check their Twitter for more details. But, I will not deal with this.
Merry Christmas!

This is getting out of hand, all these forks... China can have their BCH, but whats the point of all these forks, after few forks it will take more money to get listed in exchanges than it will bring to the devs

so what about bitcoin liza now? what do you think?

It could earn only those who entered it first and had time to go out, as in MMM Mavrodi.

but Liza jumps up then down) earned an excellent already on it)))

Maybe you're right.. But here it is obvious that it is controlled Yobit developers and they shit on all the rest!

Why not think: If liza fails then who dare to continue with INVESTBOX of YOBIT? LIZA does not scame, it starts a new cycle and needs experience to do better.  ???

There is a probability that LIZA will start to grow after the New Year and a lot of people hopes. Don't disappoint, LIZA!

Liza has 128330558031335169,6899448007898 % per year in investbox
so if you invest 100 LIZA today in investbox with 10% per day, after 1 year you will hold 128330558031335269,6899448007898 LIZA

The Bitcoin Liza coin was created by the Yobit exchange in order to attract investors to the stock exchange. This is a fraudulent coin, because it will be manipulated by its price.

LIZA is a large funnel that sucks the money of unexperienced investors. It's a coin without a team and without an idea. Do you believe that such projects can exist and make a profit? I don't.

If it looks and sound like a shitcoin, it's a shitcoin... ;D I feel bad for the people who are going to lose their money in this.

bitcoin Liza is not a coin at all

it is only the unstoppable 10% a day ponzi instrument from  yobit Exchange

I suggest you stay away from these forked coins i dont think it is a official hardfork coin of btc,yobit has getting a lot of complaints these days why you still using that exchange?

At first Lisa, then Sveta, Masha, and then Igor somehow. Already made a dozen currencies, clones bitcoin. But bitcoin is still one.

kucoin have kcs . binace have bnb , yobit ? liza .. Liza took out 10% and acted like binace, kucoin

Iti s a Shitcoin.
10% in the investment box but drop over 90% in 7days.
I missed some other forks while LIZA was in the investment box. I've lost some money with Liza.

What is this?  Another one "so called coin", its getting really ridiculous but i think we can never stop "coins" to be a bitcoin wannabe.  Bitcoin is still the one. 

it is not a coin, it the another created by yobit.net really-working ponzi instrument

YOVI - ROM
YOB2X - free coins for all BTC holders + investbox
LIZA  - free coins for all BTC holders + investbox 10% a day

hat is really unfair though. Yobit should do these kind of announcements much faster. 44 hours (according to the email i received) is not enough time to act on it. i don't check my Yobit-related email every day to catch these things. and i have already missed dumping YOB2X thing which they did for SegWit2x coin because i saw the email late otherwise i would have made some deposits!

with that said this one is not worth the effort. it is a 1:100 distribution and a worthless airdrop too. and the project seems mostly like a joke to me anyways.

People are earning crazy amounts for the last 10 days with LIZA. Most traded coin on Yobit for a few days already.

What lures people in? Easy profits. How long will it last? Invest Box will last for 2+ years. The thing is you get 10% on your investment each day so no matter if the coin does not go up

First day 1000 LIZA
2nd Day 1000+ 10%
3d day 1100+ 10%
4th day 1210+ 10%

Hi Guys,

has anyone made money and come out in profit from LIZA?

sure. I put $1 into invest the day before yesterday and pulled $1.1 from it yesterday. Today I decided to do the same trick with $1mln. Suspense ...

Haha, I put 0.2 BTC in to test so just holding onto my ankles in suspense as one of my first trades. Alot of people have negative reviews of Yobit but I would like to here if anyone out there has some truthful positive experiences of yobit, the investbox and LIZA?

Sometimes people are only willing to spend the time to review something when a negative emotion is involved, I know I am guilty of it from time to time.

Ok, but exactly what would you like to hear? Yobit is, like, yobit, and daily % is, like, daily %. Everyone who has been investing since December can tell the same story, but no one from February will come here to tell the future. They pay, currency rate is getting higher, yobit support is still non-existent, so everyone must act on his own and be patient not to misspell a digit in wallet addresses. Show is on.

Well, somebody from the Future February has finally come to tell you about a marvellous show)))
NOrmally, I change my pampers once a day. But yesterday I had to make it 2 or 3 times...

I suppose what I’m asking is if anyone has had success with yobit and invest box where they invested a $1000 for example and after 8 days at 10% doubled their holdings of Liza, converted it back to BTC/ETH ETC which doubled  their  money and successfully withdrew their BTC/ETH TO their cold wallet? This completing the trade and successfully holding their coins back in cold storage? I keep seeing horror stories but couldn’t find any stories of success. Do you think it might be better to start a new thread to garner more specific attention?

For the stories of success, "better" might be looking through similar Russian topics, if linguistically possible. There are ones, afair

I use this coin to trade. Price Bitcoin LIZA is very volatile and I can quickly make a profit. Trading volumes are also very high. For long-term investment this coin is not suitable.

a lot of people dot burned on this coin when it dumped from 45k to 2k satoshi

I read those guys who had survived it and they posted like "but I still came out with profit". Liza has what pyramid-analytics call "reset", made monthly to burn these incredibly inflated volumes - otherwise it would die from inflation like any other similar thing in this universe

I invested 0.01 BTC in Liza today. Just to see, what will happen in 10 days. It should be then 0.0259 BTC, if Liza wouldn't crash down. Can I leave the investbox alone the 10 days or must I apply daily to get the interests? I don't remember anymore, how it worked.

Small surprise: you need to play dice at least 5 times a day to receive your interest, using the coin of your investment. Betting 1 satoshi is enough, don't try to win a million since mathematicians predict you will lose everything

And a big surprise may be, that yobit initiated unknown coin to benefit from exchanges and as soon as users want to exchange their profits, no buy orders for the last, who invested in, would appear and they sit on a scamcoin. We will see, what will happen. Hopefully it is no ponzi scheme.

It seems to me that it is a total BS. It is created only for speculation and the price of this coin can collapse at any moment. But everyone should make a decision on whether it is worthwhile to trade with this coin or just bypass it.

what is meant by
""8th of March is Liza day "" ??

Interesting pyramide, that will never end - only the price will go down. One of the most impressive things i've seen in crypto for last year :) By the way, it was pretty stable till last week, that was magic - people bought shitcoins for millions of dollars. Ideal bubble!

 I have been wondering that as well .. but again I have heard something on Yobit about it - apparently that day LIZA coin will Launch properly and price wiull rise to 7500 SATOSHI (Btc), up from the 800-1000 sats it is today.

The "invest box" is not a ponzi scheme or anything like that ..

----->>>>> What happens is that coin developers can add their own coins as a reward for holding the coin, ( yes you can even add BTC, DOGE, etc) but they MUST add at least 10 BTC worth of their own coins.

The reason is to create interest in holding the coin, thus stabilising the price by creating some demand and producing a very active marketplace.

its funny as all the big up and down swings are people spamming the chat box, either bigging a coin UP or DOWN according to whether they want to buy the coins cheaper or sell them at a more expensive price. So funny to read, with many BOTS getting in on the act.

Some members of Yobit.net do warn you which coins to avoid, and which do the best.

In the past the problem was that the minimum amount of BTC developers could add was to low, so coins would be put on, everyone would jump in to get the rewards( consider it like an AIRDROP ok - this is NOT a ponzi, referals, interest, or any shit like that.

This is simply a reward by the developers for holding - BTC is 0.1% PER MONTH - but its better than NOTHING !!!!) and the price would PUMP and a few weeks ( or even days .. sigh!) later the invest box would change from ACTIVE to nothing - like empty or just gone.

So, in my opinion, its a good, if highly fluctuating, idea.

Now things are becoming more stable, with many "1-5% coin " growing in price ( per BTC SATOSHI) over a week ( and some over a month now), with others starting to become less volatile.

As for YOBIT.NET - I have added funds, traded, bought, sold, withdrawn, etc, many times.

The other thing about Yobit.net is that they do have a message when they add a new coin at the top of the site and their often one of the first to get them.

Customer service is fine, imagine having 1 million members, if even 1% contact you PER DAY, that's 10,000 PEOPLE whinning about shit - I mean seriously " I lost my login please help!!!", "what does -please wait for coin to be removed from cold storage" mean - please help, "how do I buy bitcoin", "where is my investment", "ADMIN,ADMIN, SOMEBODY CALL ADMIN", etc.

So a little patience is called for, wait 24 hours and then check, rather than submit 10 support tickets, as your only going to flood the support space.

I say this as an experienced Webmaster who knows how it feels to see 100,000 emails a day, half from auto-responders, most spam, and trying to find and deal with members emails.

So - get ready for the 8th of MARCH - as LIZA coin is ON THE MARCH ( on that date).

I bought 1000 LIZA at $0.17 and I currently have 1771.561 after 6 days, the price is $0.08-$0.10 today.

The way it works is that every day the amount of returns I receive as a PERCENTAGE OF MY ORIGINAL COIN will grow.

So tomorrow I will get 177.1561 coins ( for example).

And that is 17.71561% ( based on 1000 coins I originally added to the investment box. ie, HODLing - which is what the DEVELOPERS want !!!)

So, tomorrow - I will then have 1948.7171 coins ( 1771.561+177.1561 )

Which will give me 194.87171 coins from the invest box that will be added to my total coins tomorrow.

Which is 19.487171% return tomorrow.

The PERCENTAGE return on your original amount of held coins is the thing that GOES UP EVERY DAY !

Its not that I will get rich ( coin price may fall sure, also invest box may END !!!)  - But rather, that by holding the coin for a month ( whilst I wait for GOOD NEWS FROM LIZA)  will give me an increasing percentage of my original investment, that will ( in the end and if the investbox holds enough coins) outweigh any falls in price and if the news really is great will give me a big profit.

At which point the coins will run out in the invest box - do not panic and sell - hold and win BIG in the longer term people !!!

Its not about short term gains - its about THE FUTURE OF MANKIND !!!

Seriously - Blockchains are changing the world - sit back - relax - and LET THEM !!!

I hold coins in over 15 exchanges - I buy each one on merit - and I visit them once a week - no more - and see how their doing.


But I will not sell any for 2-3 years !

Some will vanish sure !

Some will be worth MILLIONS !

I hope LIZA will be one of those.

But I never invest more than I can afford.

And you must make your own investment decisions.

Thanks for listening.

 8)

Lol
Liza is another shit coin from yobit, no chain, no block explorer
Lize made for 10% daily investment
Be aware

Your point is noted, however they DO have some things .. here is their Twitter ..
https://twitter.com/LizaBitCoinNew

They started the Twitter on February 3rd and there is a picture there stating that their ICO starts in 15+ days, which I presume means on the 19th of February.

I have read that it was a fork of Bitcoin and they have big plans for it and a new platform will be announced.

I am not associated or affiliated with them, this is just what I eam reading ( for all the cynics on here lol - great job btw :)

There will be more where this came from. Especially after bitcoin cash claiming to be the real bitcoin and their huge number of shills trying to pump up that coin. All forks of bitcoin are just a waste of time and should be classed as an altcoin cashing in on the bitcoin name. Good profit for the makers though so not a waste of time for them

I have not heard that, but I did hear that Bitcoin cash is faster and better than bitcoin. I think it will eventually become the bigger bitcoin, but for how long, who knows, as other forks are trying to deal with size of things and sedgewit, etc, which the original bitcoin bgi whales refused to do !

I can only repeat what I was reading and typing on their twitter whilst you were typing your post :-

Hi i am a Liza HODLR and i am making everyday profit just HODL!
and rundown44  great text +1 :)

hahahaha 10% daily ? so what - if coin everyday is going down for 20% ? :))) only who is getting some cash is yobit ...cause they control :)

forget about it, 10% on investment per day also means 25% price down, only guys with 15 posts SUDDENLY make millions on it, how to make myself believe?

I have no idea what kind of forks are being printed, I think that people are already used to them, for one reason, because they are created almost every day. What is the meaning of this? I think the whole point is that the developers are making money on this.

I've noticed that for a last 2 weeks Lisa coin lost about 80% of value,  so I bought  a bit of this crypto.  I know that it has no real value, but just for a speculation purpose it is ok

Same as me - it's worth a small punt just to see what happens.

You must play the DICE GAME, if you invest, to get your interest, but you can set it to 0.00000001 satoshi, but its not onerous at 0.01 default setting.

I am posting again as I noticed a big difference on YOBIT.NET from other exchanges - some of the members are not spamming, but give good opinions, it's a lot friendlier than many other exchanges ( for example, although I use HITBTC.COM I hate their chat as its all about pumping and noone tells you anything about the coins properly, or at all haha) and you can ask and expect members to inform you ( and tell pumpers etc to STFU - which is funny every time they do that).

I just get the feeling that everyone is trying to point people in the direction of picking up a few bargains, not just pumping coins they have bought.

For my $30 punt in Liza I am quite happy, but I will wait until 9th March to see if what their twitter account is saying, and see how this GAME plays out ..

I may just lose $30 !

Price falling from 36k satoshi to 400 satoshi within month
This is insane for new coin, and i think LIZA is another scam coin from yobit.
Yob2x,btc2x,yovi and others

If you look on Yobit.net that in addition to Liza there are still full of all kinds of forks -  scams, and many of them are tokens (for example, Bitcoin Silver).  These forks,  which creates this exchange crypto currency there is not a strong team, no good ideas and innovations. And people are traded them, often only in Yobit.net. It me  seems strange to invest in them your money, because essentially - it is a Scam!

I bought 100 Liza at the end of December when it cost$6. Put it in invest. And only recently I managed to get out of it with a good profit of about 200%. But it cost me a pile of nerves and I'm glad that came out well from it.

I previously read the information that in 2018 there will be about a hundred forks of bitcoin. If you previously tried to learn more information about each new fork, tried to understand what it would be better than the original bitcoin, then with such a number of appearing branches, it becomes impossible and meaningless. Nevertheless, I think that forks are necessary, they allow the crypto currency to improve. The failed coins will simply be forgotten in time and only worthwhile, useful coins will remain.

May be now will be new era of bitcoin fork - with women names? But why Liza? We need to start from A - Abby, Ady, Ada. Oh, sorry, Ada is busy  ;D ;D ;D

Its a virtual token, not a Bitcoin fork. It's literally a ponzi, they will keep flooding the market, 10% per day. It's fun actually. But technically illegal.

Liza is going down because of FUD and is being manipulated to drive the price rock bottom so that more could be bought. I believe it will go back up higher. It just takes a whale to come in to do a huge boost. Also, Bitcoin Liza is planning to be listed on other exchanges. It is not a scam coin. They just apparently did not do a proper launch. I would keep my eye on this one. Keep your coins in the investbox when the coin is falling.  It has a history of falling and going up. Also, when Bitcoin fell Liza went up. The whole crypto market seems to go south doing Chinese New Year then goes back up.

source of its listing on other exchanges ?

no info about this coin anywhere , no website , no team , no project , no whitepaper , nothing .
just a fact that yobit launched it , so it cant help any coin to rise .

this is a coin of which no one know even it have a its own blockchain or use other blockchains .

so it is just a gambling project with 10% daily investment , its all time high price was 10$ , now it is 0.02$ and in future it will be 1 sat .

I forgot to add this note, some people wonder why Liza is not listed on coinmarketcap. I looked into learning more about coin listing. The developer of Liza can just ask to be listed as long as the coin has volume. A proper launch includes "asking" coinmarketcap to list the coin.

What are you talking about? What other exchanges? Make no one laugh. Give me a link to the proof. Only a shitty coin can drop from $11 to $0.02 in 2 months.

Unless the information I saw is wrong, I found a website for Liza. This is the website I looked at before buying Liza.

lizacoin.com

However, It looks like they had not done a proper launch and they are still working on their website. I am thinking that yobit is the first site listed and that perhaps to see how it would do but who knows....

Here is the Roadmap:

https://lizacoin.com/Roadmap

This is the first time I do hear about liza coins even having account with yobit but I have not received any mail from them. Just checked liza coin's website and finding as a scammy one like they are selling some package and I could not find what is the need of that.

I ma suggesting people not to fall into any centralized system as it will be killing our freedom slowly whereas we are here into crypto world for finding our financial freedom.

I didn’t read all these messages here but for me it looks very interesting what can be discussed here if the fork Bitcoin Liza is absent. The first news about it were in November. Now the middle of February and nothing has happened.

forking bitcoin has become marketing tool. Now the question is how this tool is being used. It can be exploited to bring good project to life and have good value straight after the start but also you can see some useless projects forking bitcoin ...

yes with this investment design the price of the coin will be 1 satoshi in a smaller fraction of time,no more then 1 month.
there is a new plan that start at 3000 liza so lets see how many people decide to invest in it.
after this change price are pumped again in all markets but personally I don't see any profit in such type of trading.

if only listing in yobit
i think you can't withdraw, because only virtual coin not real coin

Hello

I invested in Liza InvestBox a couple of weeks ago. I did some calculations and wanted to share it with you. Even if Liza drops to 1 sat, which is very likely, since the InvestBox pays 10% daily, you can amass a volume of Lizas higher enough to recover your initial inversion and even start making profit in around 90 days. The growth is exponential every day.

Remember that Yobit said that the InvestBox was supposed to last a couple of years.

Now, I've read that you say you can't withdraw, which may be correct (I didn't try yet), but the idea is to change your lizas into BTC, ETH or whatever you want.

The only problem to fear here is that Yobit decides to end the IB without any warning, which honestly I don't think is going to happen since that would hurt their public image.

Sorry if I'm not clear enough, but English is not my native language :P

See you!

there is no confidence in this exchange, and even more so for this coin, it fell 100 times in a month, this is no good at all

yes we know with bitcoin liza. and now I've rarely heard about liza bitcoin anymore, either the bitcoin liza is not selling well in the market or the developer has no way to improve the quality to have a high selling price. I do not know, they definitely just use big names from bitcoin. I think so

Seems like a common forking strategy, riding off the names of an already popular and established coin.

Crypto currency Liza is a speculative instrument created by the Yobit exchange, which you can trade exclusively within the exchange. The developers of the Yobit exchange did not repeat their colleagues from Binance and Exmo, and they decided to create not a coin, but an ordinary speculative tool on which one can earn money.

You are right.
But how got it listed on investing.com? Lol.

https://m.investing.com/crypto/liza/liza-btc-technical

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This is getting out of hand, all these forks... China can have their BCH, but whats the point of all these forks, after few forks it will take more money to get listed in exchanges than it will bring to the devs

Hi. Someone could send me a list of all the exchanges where you can make term deposits to get a daily, weekly or monthly profitability (LENDING / INVESTBOX, etc). I would appreciate, also for all would be a good data. Place the list of all exchanges that have that investment option. Thank you

Many people are doing trade for LIZA on yobit and many have claimed that they are the traders of bittrex and binance but they came to yobit for LIZA trade. It is currently trading at 8 and 9 satoshi. Yesterday it was down to 2 satoshi. But now there is a strong buy and sell wall on both sides and one cannot predict that where will it go. I want to know the future of it from someone and from some traders as only it can predict that we have to invest in this coin or not!!

Just now was dumped from 15 satoshis to 3.... now back to 10 satoshis... i was seconds to enter at 14 satoshis!!!

For me it's clear that is just market mafia... but still have moved 1500 BTC today... maybe that's the idea

Not playing that game for now with my investments

in my country, Liza coins are booming, and unfortunately I do not know for sure what this coin is
Liza has also been up 100% the last few days, so I was jealous to see my friend who easily doubled their money

This true liza became scam now... Denomination happen  oh my God...

DO NOT BUY LIZA ITS A SCAM

Yobit have just taken away 90% of everyones money now making everyone play catch up  

they have been fighting to keep it above 1 sat for the past couple of weeks putting up fake walls to hold it

Then they realized they can not hold it up there anymore so they take 90% of everyone's liza, so they have now got 90% of the BTC that has been spent on liza,

Becasue the biggest whale is yobit

THEY HAVE FOUND A WAY OF PRINTING MONEY AND THE WILL KEEP TAKING YOURS

PS THE 1000 BTC YOU SAW IS YOBITS MONEY THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN FROM YOU MONTHS OF DUMPING ON YOU KEEPING YOU JUST IN THE RED ND HOPING TO GET IT BACK


YOBIT/LIZA = SCAM DO NOT BUY


WE WILL WORK AS IF LIZA HAD 1 TRILLION AT Denomination (it had a lot more)

1 TRILLION LIZA NOW = now 100 BILLION LIZA

at 4 sats 1 trillion liza was worth 40,000 BTC

at 20 sats 100 billion LIZA is now worth 20,000 BTC 

so YOBIT only got to pay out half of what they did before win win for them so its in there best interest to keep the price low so only people holding the price down is yobit as they wont be afford to pay everyone if the price goes up and everyone cashes out

LIZA HAS NO REAL VALUE JUST WHATEVER YOBIT SAID THE ROBBING SCAMMING F***********


PS the market cap is a lot higher than the figures above

I'm not a big fan of such projects, but in any case it seems to me that most of the forks of bitcoin are just another fundraiser, in fact nothing will come of it, it's just my opinion and I have the right to it.

I do not understand which angle of profits are you talking about be it positive or negative profits but i bought Liza at 0.001 btc and is now been traded at 6 satoshi and you call that make money ? It is a total scam, as simple as a b c.

it was never a world wide bitcoin fork it was just yobit wide fork that is there new money pot

I usually loss on this coin, but for last month exchange rate was stable and you could gain like 5x profit. Nevertheless today I heard that yobit hold some tokens in investbox and token holders lost 90% of money

some ppl do make money on it but it like every other ponzi scheme there is only one winner YOBIT

and instead of just fooking off with all our BTC they are just bleeding there users dry and getting away with it

But we must be alert and cautious because there are many risks to be faced. The coin is just a waste of time
 and should be classified as altcoin cashing out the name of bitcoin.

Do you even know what a reverse split is? Google that and understand what they did.

With a reverse split you still retain your worth, that is not what happend on Yobit. Yobit took 90 procent of your coins. So if you hade 0.5 BTC worth of LIZA, you know only hav 0.05 BTC worth of LIZA.

So yeah, they scammed hard.

i understand exactly what they did they gave out too many liza then they they wanted to take more of peoples money so they made our number of liza smaller and kept all the liza for themselves now they are dumping them and trying to distract everyone with shitty lambo which is just going to do same as liza but a dam lot quicker



YOBIT LAMBO LIZA BIGGEST SCAM ON THE MARKET  if they let the price go up they will be out of business they cant let prices go up becasue how they gonna pay everyone when they cash out there profits when there is no money there at all
 

I also received an email from yobit about Liza but I did not bought Liza since I do not like that coin . It has no potential at all !!!

The Yobit exchange is really known as one of those to which trust is too low, although it is used by many people. She often adds to the auction those coins in which they explicitly invested their money and have information that they organize a pump of different useless coins. The same, probably, happens with Bitcoin Liza, it was added with the purpose to raise its price and earn on it, and this coin itself does not bear any useful decisions and has no prospects.

Liza is an ordinary Scam, and just like its developers in the face of yobit, I advise everyone to bypass both the exchange and the coin side.

This Fork thing started after that Bitcoin cash news explode.  Now,  a lot of hard forks are getting created because of the main purpose,  money.  Now I think Bitcoin Liza is just another one of those pump and dump altcoin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ponzi_schemes



Can you contact me about the problems and find the solutions, YoBit Exchange?

Some big main chat promoters, leaders or whales said:


      always make the screenshots of the chat!!!


Very often that promoters or leaders sold to you coins at the too high prices. This is known as the market manipulation.

They are always promoting coins and selling on you at the very high prices, and in the short time after they are rebuying at the much lower prices, and they are repeating such "promotions" (pump and dumps) again and again and again. Always repeating this.

So often they are very protected at the chat.

Bitcoin Liza from yobit, more is similar on hipe or financycal piramide, than on fork. She have not code and any other basis. She is just digital made in yobit.... But this did not stop me from earning it. ;D ;D ;D

I always feel that the yobit exchange is not very safe. There are many negative reports on it. My friend also warned me not to trade on yobit. And what do you think about yobit?

How big is  yearly return rate for considering to be 100% scam very likely?



From one of the biggest and the most important educational investment website:


Risk-Free & 20% Return? More Like 100% Scam

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/050115/riskfree-20-return-more-100-scam.asp


Liza creators offer 10% daily => 1 283 000 000 000 000 000% yearly    =>  ENDLESS SCAM if that interest rate will not normalize or reduce to normal value after some time, or by some methods


If you don't like this very good links, you can educate yourself by reading the whales, the leaders, the promoters, the manipulators, hardly manipulated traders and their protectors at the chat or the trollbox.

Interesting video for all investros and traders:


Title:  The Final Stage of the Ponzi: HYPERINFLATION

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNqjq-mcEqE

Because it is damage the original of bitcoin then how to prevent the project use name as bitcoin as first name?
I also agree if no other project use the same name just because want to get bitcoin popularity. Its like bitcoin fork result but its not.

As we all know according to the announcements this Bitcoin Liza has:

-no blockchain
-no block explorer
-no known initial number of coins
-no current coin supply
-no white paper
-no wallet
-no known distribution of coins by wallets
-no known distribution of the ownership
-no known developpers or team except those visible on the trollbox/chat
-no other plans except the creating new "clones" and "Invest Boxes" and very clear supporting promotional chat-trollbox as the Ponzi scheme tool and the pump and dump tool where it is not allowed or tolerated to be critical and where, at the trollbox, it is allowed only to promote to pump, only to attract and the create the network of the new buyers (see the definition of Ponzi scheme) in order to permanently dump at the high price and soon after to buy at the much lower price.

What Bitcoin Liza has?   interest rate 10% daily = 1 283 000 000 000 000 000% yearly  => ENDLESS SCAM if that interest rate will not become normal or reduced to the normal value after some time, or by some methods

It seems to me this is the gambling tool or compounding interest tool, not coin/token.

Maybe that will change some days.

By the previously posted article https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=post;topic=2472996.140;num_replies=142#top this could be very easy considered like the 100% scam by its current characteristics (there is the possibility to be changed, but still not announced at all).


There are much worse cases than this Bitcoin Liza. That are Lambo coins, and announced LIzun and Lizambo coins which are not normal at all, even not in the traces.

Creators of that coins, with their promoters, manipulators are extremely fooling around with his/their/its clients/users/traders/investors at current time.

By the all mentioned here the creators of this coins , with their promoters, manipulators, make fools of their investors/traders/clients in this time.

I'm also curious about why there are so many bitcoin forks.
Most of the time they make no sense, just to hype and cheat money.

Two topics disappeared from the access at the bitcointalk.org:


1. [ANN] [Fork] LAMBO - Bitcoin Liza Fork - Bitcointalk       https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3428340.0

2. LAMBO Coin, Get 1% Free Coin Every Hour - Bitcoin Forum      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3419343.0


What has happen with these topics?

Is there something to hide from the readers NOW?

Oh, I have not seen such a powerful scam for a long time, although probably not, I saw, I think that this project Bitcoin Liza today already many people understand that it is not necessary to use this project, because it does nothing, it is just created for speculation.

we know with bitcoin liza. and now I've rarely heard about liza bitcoin anymore, either the bitcoin liza is not selling well in the market or the developer has no way to improve the quality to have a high selling price.

I've read that you say you can't withdraw, which may be correct (I didn't try yet), but the idea is to change your lizas into BTC, ETH or whatever you want.

How can the price increase if every day become 10% more coins?
It seems to me not quite true to call this scam, rather it is a game where there will be many losers.

Just updating there is so much going on. After investing in the coin I can report, denomination of the coin has happen a month apart. I highly do not recommend the coin. Increase in value is artificial due to denomination.  You will lose most your original capital.

If we call the Bitcoin Liza Hypp, we can assume that it scams: and even if this does not happen, and because of any fraudulent actions, the situation does not change.

I do not want you to think that I'm bad about this project, but unfortunately I can not understand today what the project is doing. And I have a very peculiar understanding of what the forks of bitcoin are all about.

This project was created by the administration of the exchange in order to attract new customers. Inexperienced people constantly invest money in this coin, because Investbox promises 10 percent per day. People blinded by a thirst for profit.

the hypp system will not last long, the first person who succeeds in bringing in big profits and for the enticing beginner will be the victim of the hypp game, you should avoid investing in hypp coins

LIZA moving hard on token.store

https://i.imgur.com/AL1WYOc.png

Yobit reputation is not good. They are known as exchanges that list the most shit coin, besides hundreds of bad reviews. So, its not weird that they list this weird Liza thing.

The LIZA coin on token.store is the liza token with a blockchain.

i haven't heard more scammy pitch for a long. I noticed quick hype about Liza on Yobit few months back, but didn't really take time to research it. 10% per day sums it up though

I know the yobit market from my friends, they used to trade on the market, but they advised me not to go to yobit, I wonder why it is not allowed.? they say, this is GHOST MARKET. why do they say that.? and now I understand. too many altcoins are monopolized by yobit admin, and play according to their advantage. this is like a ponzi investment. and scammers.

This LIZA coin has a real blockchain, it is part of the swap scam liza virtual token.

There's really nothing to expect from a coin with no trace or history and any money invested on it is through good money over bad money. It the owners of Yobit were smart enough, they would have seen similar picture of what Binance saw of their native coin, BNB.

The whole essence of incentiving investments in LISA, is no other than to help shore up the market value and then they would  take profit - real money out of nothing.

Every investor wins with Liza if they follow a few simple rules. Look at the Liza price today down 25% and I am still 20 BTC in profit. BTC is a scam look at the price now. People making dollar trades are the ones crying not real traders.

It is worts coin ever, really. Only if someone lose money others will earn, but there are always more those who lost many usd in this investments, scheme is very bad

bitcoin liza has its uniqueness from its name. but I still hesitate because liza coin is still not listed in coinmarketcap. I recently heard about liza coins even have an account with yobit but I still have not received any messages from them.

I utilize this coin to exchange. Value Bitcoin LIZA is exceptionally unpredictable and I can rapidly make a benefit. Exchanging volumes are additionally high. For long haul venture this coin isn't reasonable.

Intriguing pyramide, that will never end - just the cost will go down. A standout amongst the most noteworthy things i've seen in crypto for a year ago Smiley By the way, it was quite steady till a week ago, that was enchantment - individuals purchased shitcoins for many dollars. Perfect air pocket!

I beforehand read the data that in 2018 there will be around a hundred forks of bitcoin. In the event that you beforehand attempted to take in more data about each new fork, endeavored to comprehend what it would be superior to the first bitcoin, at that point with such various showing up branches, it winds up outlandish and trivial. By the by, I surmise that forks are essential, they permit the cryptographic money to progress. The fizzled coins will basically be overlooked in time and just advantageous, valuable coins will remain.